Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

This is an atrocity not only because of the cross species pedo inscest (which makes no sense) but the ant and also the crazy half abstract art where half the time you barely know what's going on.

Banrai · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 560

http://mamabliss.com/stories/archive_story/antsex/MB_story_ANT_56.gifnsfw

that image made me die a little bit.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

Nothing like incest, rape, and seeing an elf-girl's body burst open with ants to get the ol' motor running.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

http://mamabliss.com/stories/archive_story/antsex/MB_story_ANT_56.gifnsfw

that image made me die a little bit.

It looks as though the cum is coming from different holes.

cheberet · Coadjutor Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 71

That was vastly disturbing.

although the "artist" could have a future in modern art (sadly.)

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Mamabliss isn't that bad an artist. Yet again, what a waste that it gets wasted on frighteningly graphic vore/snuff comics. I would frankly be kind of afraid to meet the artist in person.

M0us3_Zero · Vociferator Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 437

*twitches... violently*

Why... why did I read that thing... Why did I even click... *cries*

Beauty of Nature · Prattler Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 178

Oh god my eyes. I should know better not click when everyone says it burns the retinas. Damned trainwreck syndrome.

Good artist, where ? That looks like a getriatic chimp rammed a ballpen up its ass to drag it over the paper. Then a trisomic retard that ate a box of water colors threw up on the paper. It is like a rohrschacht inkblot test in color.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

I've been exposed to better Mamabliss artwork than that, I should say. I will not point to any examples because then I'd have to go look for some, and everything Mamabliss does is invariably horrifying. There's very little that makes my skin crawl anymore, but this is one of those things.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

Why is it that Mamabliss can never seem to make any clean lines or realistic shaping at all? Every time I view Mamabliss' art my eyeballs bleed. It like Chivasco only worse.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Why is it that Mamabliss can never seem to make any clean lines or realistic shaping at all? Every time I view Mamabliss' art my eyeballs bleed. It like Chivasco only worse.

Seriously, i think some of his work is awesome. Obviously not the subject matter but just the style is extremely good. The guys a twisted gay furry but he could seriously do something with his art if he was inclined. He does use clean lines on some of his computer colored porn, the question is can he move beyond his established style?

Civasco on the other hand is fucking terrible, absolutely fucking terrible. I feel like my eyes can't focus when i look at his 3 minute gesture sketches he calls art. FINISH SOMETHING PUSSY!! You can get away with a lot of mistakes in sketches, but they stare you right in the face if you try and render them.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

Why is the cum orange? It's not just art, it says so in the story bit too.

21st Century Digital Boy · Venter Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 202

Why is it that Mamabliss can never seem to make any clean lines or realistic shaping at all? Every time I view Mamabliss' art my eyeballs bleed. It like Chivasco only worse.

Seriously, i think some of his work is awesome. Obviously not the subject matter but just the style is extremely good. The guys a twisted gay furry but he could seriously do something with his art if he was inclined. He does use clean lines on some of his computer colored porn, the question is can he move beyond his established style?

Mamabliss is a woman.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Why is it that Mamabliss can never seem to make any clean lines or realistic shaping at all? Every time I view Mamabliss' art my eyeballs bleed. It like Chivasco only worse.

Seriously, i think some of his work is awesome. Obviously not the subject matter but just the style is extremely good. The guys a twisted gay furry but he could seriously do something with his art if he was inclined. He does use clean lines on some of his computer colored porn, the question is can he move beyond his established style?

Mamabliss is a woman.

Oh, well in that case it's crap

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

Oh, well in that case it's crap

It was crap regardless of which gender drew it. I mean I'm no women's lib moron, but that's a bit stupid. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if we secreted a secret crap hormone...just look at Julia Robert's career.
*BADUMCHSSSH*

CrazyBomber · Prattler Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 137

I've just read only the end of that piece of crap.
And I could say that the whole story looks like a teamwork between Maggot Girl (especially at the end) and some insane writer/drawing artist.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Oh, well in that case it's crap

It was crap regardless of which gender drew it. I mean I'm no women's lib moron, but that's a bit stupid. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if we secreted a secret crap hormone...just look at Julia Robert's career.
*BADUMCHSSSH*

NO. I firmly stand by my off the cuff sexist joke. It's just i see these people drawing mountains of gay furry porn and i can only assume it's a guy. Yes, guys draw lesbian porn quite a bit but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it. On the other hand, almost ever chick i've dated either has gone at it with another girl, or stated that they would be interested in trying it but won't do it with one of there friends or go hit up the lezbo bars.

Dejan · Prattler Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 103

*snip* Yes, guys draw lesbian porn quite a bit but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it. *snip*

You can meet tons of them if you go to an anime convention and ask about "yaoi".

5thehardway · Prattler Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 161

Yes, guys draw lesbian porn quite a bit but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it.

Bahahahahahahaha!!

Micah, you wanna back me up on this?

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Yes, guys draw lesbian porn quite a bit but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it.

Bahahahahahahaha!!

Micah, you wanna back me up on this?

No need, we all know about Micah. Before i found out she was engaged to...whatshisface i thought she was a lesbian. I don't think i heard it anywhere but i looked at her art/photo and just assumed. I know assumptions are bad but her thick, black rimmed glasses are the staple of almost every gay man/woman at my school. It's a little weird, it's almost like the glasses make them gay it's so prevalent. Combined with the short hair/gay porn i just assumed.

5thehardway · Prattler Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 161

No need, we all know about Micah. Before i found out she was engaged to...whatshisface i thought she was a lesbian. I don't think i heard it anywhere but i looked at her art/photo and just assumed. I know assumptions are bad but her thick, black rimmed glasses are the staple of almost every gay man/woman at my school. It's a little weird, it's almost like the glasses make them gay it's so prevalent. Combined with the short hair/gay porn i just assumed.

Most people who haven't seen her photo assume she's a dude, so you're one up on them, anyway.

I know some actual lesbians who are into gay (male) porn-- fanfic-type stuff, anyway-- very weird. Why don't they write girl/girl porn, I wonder?

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

But i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it.

Again, I have more information on this than I should admit to, this time on account of my wife. Yaoi tends to be the analog of 'hot lesbo sex', wherein instead of two women going about in a fashion that most real lesbians would find unrealistic, Yaoi focuses, from what I can tell, on less the actual sex and more on relationships and fear of being caught, drama, etc. The characters in such are, well, take bishonen, magnify the girly-boy aspect of it, even more spineless and waif-like, and there you go.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

No need, we all know about Micah. Before i found out she was engaged to...whatshisface i thought she was a lesbian. I don't think i heard it anywhere but i looked at her art/photo and just assumed. I know assumptions are bad but her thick, black rimmed glasses are the staple of almost every gay man/woman at my school. It's a little weird, it's almost like the glasses make them gay it's so prevalent. Combined with the short hair/gay porn i just assumed.

Most people who haven't seen her photo assume she's a dude, so you're one up on them, anyway.

I know some actual lesbians who are into gay (male) porn-- fanfic-type stuff, anyway-- very weird. Why don't they write girl/girl porn, I wonder?

For the record i'm not punking micah like that one guy. I thought she looked hot in that pic of her and the ice lake or whatever. Short hair on girls that arent lesbians = the good

Beauty of Nature · Prattler Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 178

But i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it.

Again, I have more information on this than I should admit to, this time on account of my wife. Yaoi tends to be the analog of 'hot lesbo sex', wherein instead of two women going about in a fashion that most real lesbians would find unrealistic, Yaoi focuses, from what I can tell, on less the actual sex and more on relationships and fear of being caught, drama, etc. The characters in such are, well, take bishonen, magnify the girly-boy aspect of it, even more spineless and waif-like, and there you go.

There seems a tiny difference between Yaoi and Lesbo pornography.
Lesbo porn is about having two women to jerk of to, instead of one.
The Yaoi and especially the very popular slash/fanfic/dojinshi yaoi is mainly about self insertion of the female reader. They identify with one of the semi-males that humps the other semi-male. That way they can be a fictional someone they desire and also have another desired fictional male at the same time.It is fanwank to the power of two.
Whats really wrong with it,and what disturbs me, is lustig after fictional unrealistic characters, not the buttsax.

cheberet · Coadjutor Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 71

Yeaahhh. I went to Otakon a year ago and the herds of women running up to the Yaoi booth as soon as it opened kind of refutes that statement. I go on Fandom Wank occasionally and it seems everyone on there is a gay porn loving chick. Even I like some of it, as long as it isn't too...squishy. And the mpreg stuff makes me want to die. But other then that.

I'm aquainted with some straight female yaoi fans into the hardcore gay dominance bitch boy bondage porn, but I'd rather not collect any concrete statistics, since really, who NEEDS to know?

vanilla rin · Qualificator Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 31

Most of the time the answer I get as to why women love mansex is something like: "Well, what's better than one cake? Two. So, what's better than one hot guy...?"

But honestly, I'm not really sure why it's so arousing. I'm a female, and I'm dating a female, yet we're both very, very into the man on man action.

More than self-insertion, I'm leaning towards the idea that it's how unrealistic the men are that is the pull. The men most of these women are used to seeing are the kind brought up to not show their emotions and be very, well, manly. Since "yaoi" is female oriented and created, the men don't act convincing most of the time. They feel more, they emote more, and a lot of the time they look and act like women. Unlike real men, these are non-threatening to fans, not only because they aren't like the men they know, but also because they are not interested in them.

Also: there is a raw sexuality that men seem to have, a very physical nature. Girls, on the other hand, are usually considered more sensual and giving. A lot of times, sensuality and recirpocation aren't what you're looking for, so you may as well cut out the source...

To keep this a bit more on topic, I have to say one of the things "yaoi" has going for it is that most of the storylines are pretty vanilla. I can't imagine Mamabliss being arousing at all. It isn't just a kink, it's... something far more disturbing.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

My theory on Yaoi (fanfic in particular)...
Let's face it. You can't have sex with <enter lust-object here>, because they don't exist. Maybe they even have a canon (female) love interest in their book/movie, whatever.
So bitter fangirls figure that because THEY can't have this OH SO YIFFY FOXBOI or whatever, no other female should.
So, rather than making themselves subject to ridicule, they go the more socially-acceptable route and make him gay and project their feelings into him.
Anyways, this is just my personal view on it. There are so many trainwrecks of examples out there that I won't link to (I dont want to further hijack this thread), but I think you can get the idea...

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

My theory on Yaoi (fanfic in particular)...
Let's face it. You can't have sex with <enter lust-object here>, because they don't exist. Maybe they even have a canon (female) love interest in their book/movie, whatever.
So bitter fangirls figure that because THEY can't have this OH SO YIFFY FOXBOI or whatever, no other female should.
So, rather than making themselves subject to ridicule, they go the more socially-acceptable route and make him gay and project their feelings into him.
Anyways, this is just my personal view on it. There are so many trainwrecks of examples out there that I won't link to (I dont want to further hijack this thread), but I think you can get the idea...

These are all interesting ideas. The idea of empathizing with porn is very alien to me. I don't see people, i see dangly parts and crevasses and i'm in and out as fast as possible. I guess it's cuz women are so much more enamoured with the whole falling in love emotional side of it whereas as guys for the most part are like "Imma git me sum POON Tang!*high fives someone*"

If thats the case are the majority of readers of ultra emo gay relationship fiction women? Or do gay men like that stuff too cuz I was under the impression that gay porn is no different from strait porn other than the lack of vagina. Isn't it just as filthy and depraved? I like filthy and depraved.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

Funny thing about yaoi and doujinshi thereof is the initial bothersome factor to the one who encounters it and is not part of the target audience. By this I mean the kind of person (usualy male) who is let's say an avid King of Fighters fan and happens to discover for the first time that there is yaoi available of Kyo x Iori. Such a person will usualy cry soulraep since someone else has taken their fictional manly heroes and turned them into effeminate peter-puffers.

The same thing happened to me many, many years ago, but since then I've come to accept the fact that everything from childhood cartoons to popular videogame characters will at some point be the fantasy of someone and that someone will take artistic license with said characters to construct images and stories that tickle that person's fantasies and may even distribute said images and stories for other like-minded people to fantasize over even is said fantasies do not make any sense in terms of the original material.

That being said, anyone have some good Mai x Chun Li pics?

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I definetley think it's a gender thing.
I've seen guys who write girl on girl fanfiction, and of course, the large mass of girls who write guy on guy.
If you've ever read this kind of stuff (I have, I admit it), the girl/girl stuff is all about experimentation, while the guy/guy stuff is all about relationship, angst, ect. It's the same reason you'll rarely hear a straight guy say he was 'so touched by yesterday's episode of Oprah'.
Although, of course there are exceptions. I know of one guy who reads/ writes male slash fanfic. In fact, he has a website about slash fanfic tips for the penis-impaired.
I think the whole draw is, as stated before, why stop with ONE hot girl/guy when you can have two? MAKING OUT?

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

I've got a more guy-porn philosophy. Who gives a shit about relationships? I don't. I watch made-for-guys lesbian porn and like it. I mean, I really really don't care about affection and love. Porn is for wankfests. Romance is for sleep aids. Enough said.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I've got a more guy-porn philosophy. Who gives a shit about relationships? I don't. I watch made-for-guys lesbian porn and like it. I mean, I really really don't care about affection and love. Porn is for wankfests. Romance is for sleep aids. Enough said.

PREACH IT SISTA

MicahFennec · Prattler Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 170

Me...a lesbian? *cracks up*

Geez...it's more likely that I'm a gay man in a woman's body.

(Disclaimer before people start speculating: no, I am not transexual/transgendered or gender-confused or whatever and no, I have no desire to be a male, I don't have penis envy, and I'm happy with my gender, thank you very much - I was just making a point.;))

Oh...while I'm on the topic...why does short hair + glasses on a woman = lesbian? That kinda irks me...being mistaken for a guy or a lesbian all the time just because I have short hair and small boobs and I don't put gobs of makeup all over my face. *rolls her eyes* Believe me, you don't want to see me with long hair - I had it all through elementary school, junior high, and high school before chopped it off on a whim, and I'm NEVER going back.

Mmmm....slash....yaoi...I could list some of the m/m pairs I've slashed, but it would probably horrify people. Not that I've ever really worried about that before...

Let's just say that (with one small exception) I'm probably the only person in the universe to slash the Pet Shop Boys or the Buggles. XD XD (My partner-in-crime for the latter doesn't really count because I'm the one who somehow gave her Buggles-itis. Although to be fair, she's the one who finally talked me into actually writing something down rather than keeping it all in my filthy little mind)

MicahFennec · Prattler Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 170

Before i found out she was engaged to...whatshisface i thought she was a lesbian. I don't think i heard it anywhere but i looked at her art/photo and just assumed.

Waitaminnit...you looked at my *art* and assumed I was a lesbian? O.o Because obviously lesbians draw primarily m/m porn...? I mean...come on...since when is gay porn (meaning m/m) associated with *lesbians*? I have a couple of lesbian friends (actually, they are a couple) who would rather look at my poop porn than any drawing containing semen.

To quote my favorite Star Trek character..."highly illogical". (Meaning the part about associating gay porn with lesbians - not the part about my friends being grossed out by spooge.) O.O

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

Before i found out she was engaged to...whatshisface i thought she was a lesbian. I don't think i heard it anywhere but i looked at her art/photo and just assumed.

Waitaminnit...you looked at my *art* and assumed I was a lesbian? O.o Because obviously lesbians draw primarily m/m porn...? I mean...come on...since when is gay porn (meaning m/m) associated with *lesbians*? I have a couple of lesbian friends (actually, they are a couple) who would rather look at my poop porn than any drawing containing semen.

To quote my favorite Star Trek character..."highly illogical". (Meaning the part about associating gay porn with lesbians - not the part about my friends being grossed out by spooge.) O.O

I have to agree with Micah here. I really doubt that every member of fanfiction.net is a lesbian.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I agree with Micah too. It's a fact that the majority of m/m stuff out there is produced and viewed by straight women. So a lesbian would producing gay porn for her own enjoyment would be highly illogical.

Personally, I like short hair on women. I think it often looks cute if done right.

By the way Micah, I'm curious. Have you ever shown or sent the real Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes your pictures of a certain athropomorphic chinchilla and raccoon?

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

It's not that weird. I know two gay guys who like lesbian porn but wouldn't touch straight with a ten foot pole. It's almost a queer (no pun intended) need to see the currently avante-garde homosexual behaviour in any way. They don't so much get off on it as like it for the mere fact of it being homo. It's a sort of stick-it-to-the-man thing, so I can understand lesbians liking gay porn. I admit I read slash sometimes, but I prefer to do it in a fandom that I'm not familiar with. I scroll past all the angst and love and just look for the fucking. If there is none in the first chapter, it's not worth my time. Period. Slash is only funny, however, when I know the fandom and the characters. Then, it becomes a laugh fest instead.
I guess I've lost interest in most straight porn because it's simply too boring. Maybe that's how a lot of people descend in to crazy fetishism, but at this point I've not reached that level. If I do sometime, whatever. I'll just get off to it in private and not burden others with the grotesque details. I've always found furry drama more funny than furry excess, anyway. Unless, of course, it's something so over the top and random that I die a little inside. *Points to topic post*

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

It's not that weird. I know two gay guys who like lesbian porn but wouldn't touch straight with a ten foot pole. It's almost a queer (no pun intended) need to see the currently avante-garde homosexual behaviour in any way.

Many gay men enjoy knowing that homosexuality in women exists, they go to meetings with them or whatnot. I guess it's not unlike how straights enjoy having couples meet at poarties, only with the added bonus of knowing that there is no chance of cheating with this other coulpe. Also, lesbians and gay men both <3 dildos.

It is fairly creepy though that sooo much m/m is happily made by straight females though. I guess it's somewaht of a mass rejection of the Disney theme of teaching girls they have to be the woman and obey a husband someday. So instead of writing stories of men coming an conquering women, or of some subby guy who likes being ridden and needs a mommy more than a girlfriend, they enjoy the freedom of roles cthey can give to two characters for which sex can be either... and happen to own sex organs which are fun for women anyway.

A simpler conclusion; women wonder what it's like to have penises, but don't really want them.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

A simpler conclusion; women wonder what it's like to have penises, but don't really want them.

Having someone explain that to me would have made my puberty less confusing.

5thehardway · Prattler Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 161

I've got a more guy-porn philosophy. Who gives a shit about relationships? I don't. I watch made-for-guys lesbian porn and like it. I mean, I really really don't care about affection and love. Porn is for wankfests. Romance is for sleep aids. Enough said.

I view mostly straight porn when I'm feeling frisky, and the most important part of it to me is the actual penetration. I don't need a storyline. Half the time I don't even really care to see what the participants look like, since most of the time they're either weird-looking, comically overacting, or a combination of both.

Not that there aren't exceptions-- the "classic" 70s porn Babylon Blue has a very hot and romantic scene between a straight couple mixed in with all the other scenes of kink and hate-fucking.

But for the most part, what matters is dick going in pussy. Or dick going in mouth or male ass.

cheberet · Coadjutor Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 71

Yeah, I'm another chick who couldn't care less about the romance. Cut straight to the fucking - that's what I'm here for. I'm straight but most of my personal fantasies involve me as the male, so that can be analyzed any way you'd like. I like action movies too. I wonder if that's the kind of girl that's really drawn to the internet.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

Yeah, I'm another chick who couldn't care less about the romance. Cut straight to the fucking - that's what I'm here for. I'm straight but most of my personal fantasies involve me as the male, so that can be analyzed any way you'd like. I like action movies too. I wonder if that's the kind of girl that's really drawn to the internet.

Maybe it's true that there really AREN'T any girls on the internet...

cheberet · Coadjutor Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 71

OH SHIT FORGOT ABOUT MY TEN INCH COCK

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Yeah, I'm another chick who couldn't care less about the romance. Cut straight to the fucking - that's what I'm here for. I'm straight but most of my personal fantasies involve me as the male, so that can be analyzed any way you'd like. I like action movies too. I wonder if that's the kind of girl that's really drawn to the internet.

Wtf? that's weird as hell but understandable i guess. I don't remember where i read this but it was some sexuality study and in this study that asked a bunch of little kids to draw themselves. Surprisingly a lot of the girls drew theselves with male junk and they figured that it was cuz of the overtly sexual nature of the male genitals with them external to the body and and completely associated with sex. The female junk is often associated more with birth than sex. It also said in word association when they said "sex" the most common answer was "penis"

I think everyone has weird preferences when it comes to porn. I'll take solo female over lesbian anyday, and strait porn over the two of them f/f/m is best. I also don't get excited at all by strait porn if the dudes junk is smaller than mine or the girls tits are bigger then a large C, analyze that any way you want as well cuz that's just what i like, don't know why.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

I also don't get excited at all by strait porn if the dudes junk is smaller than mine or the girls tits are bigger then a large C, analyze that any way you want as well cuz that's just what i like, don't know why.

Dick is understandable. Bigger the better. But as for the boobs...I are offended. My large tits and I shall go cry in the corner now :(

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

When did the subject change from horrible antsex to porn preference and penis size?

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

When did the subject change from horrible antsex to porn preference and penis size?

Yes, guys draw lesbian porn quite a bit but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it. On the other hand, almost ever chick i've dated either has gone at it with another girl, or stated that they would be interested in trying it but won't do it with one of there friends or go hit up the lezbo bars.

Answered.

MicahFennec · Prattler Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 170

By the way Micah, I'm curious. Have you ever shown or sent the real Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes your pictures of a certain athropomorphic chinchilla and raccoon?

OH HELL NO!! ;P

But I did give Geoff a couple of my photorealistic portraits of him (as a human, that is) and the Buggles when I met him...it seemed to make him happy, he said something about framing them and hanging them in his house. I also mailed some of my portraits (again - the human ones) to Trevor, and he actually sent me a hand-written letter in return. :D :D

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

When did the subject change from horrible antsex to porn preference and penis size?

Yes, guys draw lesbian porn quite a bit but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it. On the other hand, almost ever chick i've dated either has gone at it with another girl, or stated that they would be interested in trying it but won't do it with one of there friends or go hit up the lezbo bars.

Answered.

Yeah, my bad, i didn't even look at the thing in the OP. I've had enough of mamabliss. It's a pitty that she only draws gay porn semingly otherwise I would probably not be fed up.

And as for the big boobs thing. Sorry, beyond a C cup they just get in the way IMO, i only learned this after i dated a chick with DD's. Although don't feel to bad. I don't think i even have to state that i'm in the minority on this issue as far as massive titties are concerned.

MicahFennec · Prattler Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 170

On the other hand, almost ever chick i've dated either has gone at it with another girl, or stated that they would be interested in trying it but won't do it with one of there friends or go hit up the lezbo bars.

Whoa...missed this part somehow. I don't know where you find your girls...I have absolutely no desire to do anything with another girl, and neither do the majority of my straight female friends, at least as far as I know. :P

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

By the way, Micah, I checked out your art finally and it's not nearly as disturbing as it's cracked up to be. I'm dissappointed. Awesome detail though, you definatly have skill, and I like the opossum pouch/erogenous zone idea. How'd you get into all these fetishes?

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

By the way, Micah, I checked out your art finally and it's not nearly as disturbing as it's cracked up to be. I'm dissappointed. Awesome detail though, you definatly have skill, and I like the opossum pouch/erogenous zone idea. How'd you get into all these fetishes?

Speaking of which, Micah needs to draw more cross-dressing pics.
Anyways, alot of really great points have been brought up here.
The whole romance/angst thing annoys the shit out of me. I mean, it's not really that attractive for some guy to be slicing his wrists going WOE IS ME AM I GAYYYY. Just get into the damn ass sex and make all the women of the world happy. Seriously now.
I personally have little preference when it comes to porn. As long as it's no bizarre fetishes like Midget porn or Amputee porn or anything.

SquareMoogle · Vociferator Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 357

I think I remember something about SA linking to her art, forcing her to delete the most notable of her atrocities, or something. Not sure if she got around to uploading all of them back, what's the word on this Micah? :lol:

MicahFennec · Prattler Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 170

By the way, Micah, I checked out your art finally and it's not nearly as disturbing as it's cracked up to be. I'm dissappointed. Awesome detail though, you definatly have skill, and I like the opossum pouch/erogenous zone idea. How'd you get into all these fetishes?

The truth is, I actually draw much more non-disturbing porn than disturbing porn...and much more non-porn than porn...but it's the disturbing porn that people always notice and remember you for.;P

As for all the fetishes - well...while I do have a number of fetishes myself (glasses, cybernetics, latex, bondage, some others that I won't mention)...a lot of what I draw is commissioned, so it doesn't necessarily represent one of my own fetishes, per se. For example, I've drawn a few hyper pics, and some herms, and I'm not particularly into either of those. Or inflation...I draw that a lot because...ahem...certain people I know are into it, but it doesn't do much for me other than intriguing me a bit.

I think I remember something about SA linking to her art, forcing her to delete the most notable of her atrocities, or something. Not sure if she got around to uploading all of them back, what's the word on this Micah? :lol:

Basically, I took down the oviposition stuff because it seemed to disturb a lot of people, but I re-uploaded it to a directory on my FurNation site, so it would be less conspicuous but still available to those who like it (believe me, there are a lot). The only other stuff that I took down was the poop stuff, which there wasn't all that much of to begin with.;P I left up the watersports stuff...that's pretty darn mundane nowadays, anyway.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Basically, I took down the oviposition stuff because it seemed to disturb a lot of people, but I re-uploaded it to a directory on my FurNation site, so it would be less conspicuous but still available to those who like it (believe me, there are a lot). The only other stuff that I took down was the poop stuff, which there wasn't all that much of to begin with.;P I left up the watersports stuff...that's pretty darn mundane nowadays, anyway.

The big scat/watersports/vomit orgy pic is still on a Encyclopedia Dramatica article, IIRC.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

The truth is, I actually draw much more non-disturbing porn than disturbing porn...and much more non-porn than porn...but it's the disturbing porn that people always notice and remember you for.;P

650,000 flights on a month landing safely isn't news. A single plane crashing is.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

My weirdo fetishes are kept secret, myself. I guess I'm not so shocked because I don't see any of this stuff as harmful. Ocassionally something, like the antsex, comes along that tickles my WTF sense, but most of the time I really don't mind people doing their thing. Unless it's like, raping a guide dog. Even those two guys in Germany that had a mutual cannibalism thing going on didn't really squick me. I mean, if that one guy wanted to be eaten, why did anyone stop him? It's not like there was any nonconsentual crap going on.
But I guess I'm whacko-liberal in that sense. What never fails to make me laugh/piss me off, however, is people taking themselves too seriously and getting their panties in a bunch over it. It's just going too far.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Basically, I took down the oviposition stuff because it seemed to disturb a lot of people, but I re-uploaded it to a directory on my FurNation site, so it would be less conspicuous but still available to those who like it (believe me, there are a lot). The only other stuff that I took down was the poop stuff, which there wasn't all that much of to begin with.;P I left up the watersports stuff...that's pretty darn mundane nowadays, anyway.

The big scat/watersports/vomit orgy pic is still on a Encyclopedia Dramatica article, IIRC.

I was just about to say, would the title of that pic be bathroom play perhaps?

The New Meat · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 933

No need, we all know about Micah. Before i found out she was engaged to...whatshisface i thought she was a lesbian.

Oh, for the love of fuck, people

I'LL BE IN MY TRAILER

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

I left up the watersports stuff...that's pretty darn mundane nowadays, anyway.

Do you mean mundane in relation to furry porn, or porn in general, or internet stuff, or socially acceptable conversation topics or what?
(Just curious.)

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Mundane relative to fchan's /a/, maybe. Micah's gotta take a vacation from this shit. Hell, a change would do me good... never let yourself into the position where you need to ask 'what? he's just been stuffed into her vagina... oh, wait... normal people don't see that every day...'

Sorry, stepping on topic, I gotta say I love Mamabliss' art style. It's like a digital stabbing.

The subject matter, on the other hand...

MicahFennec · Prattler Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 170

I left up the watersports stuff...that's pretty darn mundane nowadays, anyway.

Do you mean mundane in relation to furry porn, or porn in general, or internet stuff, or socially acceptable conversation topics or what?
(Just curious.)

Mundane in relation to porn in general. Just hop on Google and search for "watersports" or "golden showers" or even "piss"...and you'll see what I mean.;P

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that watersports is *more* common among "human" porn than "furry" porn.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Mundane in relation to porn in general. Just hop on Google and search for "watersports" or "golden showers" or even "piss"...and you'll see what I mean.;P

Hey, thats cheating! If you specifically search for weird shit, chances are you'll find it - doesn't mean it's commonplace...

But I guess we all get jaded by the plentiful atrocities on the net. Lots of really weird stuff ends up seeming more or less normal... by now, it takes something pretty extreme to make me go :shock:. I'm not sure if that's a good or a bad thing.

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

Let me give you some sage words of wisdom.

Always make sure safesearch is ON before you search for a picture of a horse on google.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I left up the watersports stuff...that's pretty darn mundane nowadays, anyway.

Do you mean mundane in relation to furry porn, or porn in general, or internet stuff, or socially acceptable conversation topics or what?
(Just curious.)

Mundane in relation to porn in general. Just hop on Google and search for "watersports" or "golden showers" or even "piss"...and you'll see what I mean.;P

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that watersports is *more* common among "human" porn than "furry" porn.

Penthouse does it from time to time, why I don't know.

Dejan · Prattler Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 103

Is it just me or did female to male rimming in straight, non fetish porn become mainstream, too lately? They call it "ass to mouth" action.
In short: ATM.
Beware the automated teller machine, it'll lick your ass.
I mean... porn IS supposed to be dirty and not exactly a realistic representation of how normal people have sex but "ass to mouth" in mainstream? The buying mainstream seems to get weirder. At least use a piece of foil inbetween so no dumb kids get their load of coli bacteria when they re-enact that. Sheesh.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Is it just me or did female to male rimming in straight, non fetish porn become mainstream, too lately? They call it "ass to mouth" action.
In short: ATM.
Beware the automated teller machine, it'll lick your ass.
I mean... porn IS supposed to be dirty and not exactly a realistic representation of how normal people have sex but "ass to mouth" in mainstream? The buying mainstream seems to get weirder. At least use a piece of foil inbetween so no dumb kids get their load of coli bacteria when they re-enact that. Sheesh.

How do you figure it's mainstream? The internet juxtaposes everything - in a manner of speaking, Disney Online and Rotten.com are just one click away from each other. So the only way to tell if something on the internet is mainstream is to compare with similar material in other media and see if it's mainstream there. I don't think it's fair to say that any kind of porn is mainstream (the vast amounts of it on the net notwithstanding).

As for what goes, you've had weird fetish porn basically for as long as you've had porn. Ten years ago when porn was still something people had to buy in a shop, the weird stuff was on the last shelf down the back at the shop. Now porn's freely (more or less) available at a mouseclick - everything from soft core straight porn to whatever weird shit you can imagine. The net allows people with odd tastes to come together (ha ha) and share their fetishes, so yeah, the internet has been instrumental in making weird stuff easily available - and that's all kinds of weird and unusual stuff, not just sexual kinks. But it doesn't mean these things have necessarily become mainstream or popular or commonplace.

(But I have no idea how one would find out just how widespread interest is in "ass to mouth" porn or whatever odd thing, were one to go about this by making statistics or something...)

Dejan · Prattler Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 103

How do you figure it's mainstream?

edonkey/bittorrent porn leeching sites/forums of course.
Most are sorted into mainstream/fetish categories.
I usually associate the expensive looking movies where the actresses look a bit like models and don't have cheap dental fillings with "mainstream".
I haven't been to a video store in AGES, but I guess what I mean with mainstream represents the first rows of the front shelf of the adult section.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

How do you figure it's mainstream?

edonkey/bittorrent porn leeching sites/forums of course.
Most are sorted into mainstream/fetish categories.
I usually associate the expensive looking movies where the actresses look a bit like models and don't have cheap dental fillings with "mainstream".
I haven't been to a video store in AGES, but I guess what I mean with mainstream represents the first rows of the front shelf of the adult section.

I would say mainstream represents m/f, m/m give or take a few /f/'s or /m/'s. Threesomes and up are pretty freaky in rl but in porn i would say it's mainstream. Obviously this is open to interepretation and opinions will differ. I would consider m/f anal to be mainstream but some would not. If the guys receiving (from a female), i would NOT consider that mainstream, but i'm sure some would.

Beauty of Nature · Prattler Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 178

How do you figure it's mainstream?

edonkey/bittorrent porn leeching sites/forums of course.
Most are sorted into mainstream/fetish categories.
I usually associate the expensive looking movies where the actresses look a bit like models and don't have cheap dental fillings with "mainstream".
I haven't been to a video store in AGES, but I guess what I mean with mainstream represents the first rows of the front shelf of the adult section.

I would say mainstream represents m/f, m/m give or take a few /f/'s or /m/'s. Threesomes and up are pretty freaky in rl but in porn i would say it's mainstream. Obviously this is open to interepretation and opinions will differ. I would consider m/f anal to be mainstream but some would not. If the guys receiving (from a female), i would NOT consider that mainstream, but i'm sure some would.

Porn is mainstream now ? Or is there a mainstream in porn ?
What gets featured always depends on what sells. I never seen ATM and I don't want to. But they put it in because someone out there pays to see it.
There are consumers out there that kind of mass consume pornography and can't get enough of it. It is these few that want their porn to be harder and dirtier every time they see it. These are also the few that share the most files on P2P networks. Simply because they have the most and they want even more. I known a guy like that and he had gigabytes of the hardest hardcorn porn videos. Stuff you could barely keep in the stomach. He had nothing better to do than to put it on the student's dorm internal network for everyone to see. He wanted everyone to have "good porn".

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

How do you figure it's mainstream?

edonkey/bittorrent porn leeching sites/forums of course.
Most are sorted into mainstream/fetish categories.
I usually associate the expensive looking movies where the actresses look a bit like models and don't have cheap dental fillings with "mainstream".
I haven't been to a video store in AGES, but I guess what I mean with mainstream represents the first rows of the front shelf of the adult section.

I would say mainstream represents m/f, m/m give or take a few /f/'s or /m/'s. Threesomes and up are pretty freaky in rl but in porn i would say it's mainstream. Obviously this is open to interepretation and opinions will differ. I would consider m/f anal to be mainstream but some would not. If the guys receiving (from a female), i would NOT consider that mainstream, but i'm sure some would.

Porn is mainstream now ? Or is there a mainstream in porn ?
What gets featured always depends on what sells. I never seen ATM and I don't want to. But they put it in because someone out there pays to see it.
There are consumers out there that kind of mass consume pornography and can't get enough of it. It is these few that want their porn to be harder and dirtier every time they see it. These are also the few that share the most files on P2P networks. Simply because they have the most and they want even more. I known a guy like that and he had gigabytes of the hardest hardcorn porn videos. Stuff you could barely keep in the stomach. He had nothing better to do than to put it on the student's dorm internal network for everyone to see. He wanted everyone to have "good porn".

I acctually have a video called "ass to mouth". it's pretty bad. I also didn't buy it, it was given to me along with all my vhs porn. I just don't see the appeal of that and it seems not that far off from a scat fetish. Everyone living in the house with the guy that gave it to me were raving about it. Not the subject per se but just "theres some really good scenes in it".

Obscenity · Qualificator Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 12

but i've never met a woman that is enamored at the thought of two guys going at it.

well then where have you been? girls love queers.

I only made it to the felching part before my soul couldn't take it anymore.
I really wish this Mamabliss person (what a stupid name) hadn't used my nickname for one of her twisted characters. ugh. and why the hell does this thing switch perspectives randomly with no notification?

also, onomatopoeia(sp?) has never been more horrifying:

Lyssia screams in feeling the schlrup of your knot grinding and forcing her ass so wide, tight and tender.

seriously, schlrup???

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

and why the hell does this thing switch perspectives randomly with no notification?

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say there's the possibility that this is somebody's chat log converted into story form. Not that I can say for sure since I refuse to actually read the text myself.

Jerry Collins · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 548

Hmmmm,brings a whole new meaning to "ant music for ant people".....(sorry Adam)