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Zorn
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Hes probably one of the few well known professional furry artists, but OH MY FUCKING GOD his erotic art is the stuff of fucking nightmares. I mean come on havent you even seen it? It really amazes me how someone with so much talent can waste hours upon hours of photoshopping painting-like quality of bipedal wolves with massive throbbing dog dicks and underage anime characters having sex with digimon. Heres an example: http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Den/Adult/KarHos04.JPG
This image is practically of Lovecraftian horror. All those photo-realistically rendered animal penises make me almost afraid to get an erection ever again. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 10/12/2005 10:11:27 PM
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Hes probably one of the few well known professional furry artists, but OH MY FUCKING GOD his erotic art is the stuff of fucking nightmares. I mean come on havent you even seen it? It really amazes me how someone with so much talent can waste hours upon hours of photoshopping painting-like quality of bipedal wolves with massive throbbing dog dicks and underage anime characters having sex with digimon. Heres an example: http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Den/Adult/KarHos04.JPG
This image is practically of Lovecraftian horror. All those photo-realistically rendered animal penises make me almost afraid to get an erection ever again.
...Oh.
The horse is licking it's own cock...
I thought it was an ice cream cone for a while :? |
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Monkey King
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Well duh. He's Japanese. |
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MagKnightX
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Posted: 10/12/2005 10:18:33 PM
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...Oh.
The horse is licking it's own cock...
I thought it was an ice cream cone for a while :?
I thought it was some sort of popsicle or something.
And then I scrolled down. |
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Zod God
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Posted: 10/12/2005 10:23:49 PM
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Well duh. He's Japanese.
That explains EVERYTHING! |
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Donotsue
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Posted: 10/12/2005 10:31:05 PM
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That's not so disturbing.. His critters with 6 tits always are! =)
Hm... Or was that Dr Comet stuff... Kara draws mainly boehs! |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 10/12/2005 10:52:26 PM
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...Oh.
The horse is licking it's own cock...
I thought it was an ice cream cone for a while :?
I thought it was some sort of popsicle or something.
And then I scrolled down.
It looks like one of those dairy queen cones...the kinda squishy ones. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 10/12/2005 11:28:22 PM
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Hes probably one of the few well known professional furry artists, but OH MY FUCKING GOD his erotic art is the stuff of fucking nightmares. I mean come on havent you even seen it? It really amazes me how someone with so much talent can waste hours upon hours of photoshopping painting-like quality of bipedal wolves with massive throbbing dog dicks and underage anime characters having sex with digimon. Heres an example: http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Den/Adult/KarHos04.JPG
This image is practically of Lovecraftian horror. All those photo-realistically rendered animal penises make me almost afraid to get an erection ever again.
No no that's just Ron Jeremy drawn as an animal. |
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peppersprayed
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That's not so disturbing.. His critters with 6 tits always are! =)
Hm... Or was that Dr Comet stuff... Kara draws mainly boehs!
He used to draw alot of digimon
and then he stopped
and a bunch of people went OH NOES
and the world continued to turn because those people were furries |
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AngryPuritan
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I agree with Donny here. Laboring over making an animal dick 'just-so' isn't as bad as the multibreast dog girls he used to do. Most of his stuff isn't atrocity level at all.
I happen to think the TNG parody was scary as anything though, just can't tell why.
Also, this is pretty weird, but no where near Pink's level of atrocity. |
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baserock love
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You should all thank yourselfs that the thread on onechan that had his pic of a gigantic horse raping renamon and theres like 20 gallons of horse nut gushing out, that is his most atrocity worthy pic in my opinion. Aside from the subject matter what was the most disgusting thing about it is the way he rendered the gallons of horse cum with all these tendril like drops coming out, it looked like a white sea anemone, very creepy.
Nothing is more bizarre than having a beloved (i'm sure to a lot of todays young kids) childrens cartoon character getting violated by a horse. The only thing that could be more childhood raping than that is when they have underage childhood cartoon characters getting violated by horses.
But fuck, that guy can DRAW. If he's a professional artist, where the fuck does he find time for this shit? It's plainly obvious that he spends fucking hours on them. My cutoff time for furry porn was around 2 hours, otherwise i could have acctually gotten something useful done. |
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Monkey King
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Also, this is pretty weird, but no where near Pink's level of atrocity.
That really doesn't count, since it's no worse than anything Masamune Shirow does. Well, minus the fact it's a furry and not a large-breasted anime woman.
But the multi-breasted women? Like I said, par for the course for Japanese furries. I'm not sure why they think they have to veer so far in the direction of animalistic features, but they do. I find the six breasted females and the lovingly rendered horse and dog cocks to be equally alarming, since they both represent the same thing - an excessive fascination with animal anatomy.
The really hilarious part about him swearing off Digimon porn was that he did it because people only cared about the porn, not the artist drawing it. He was actually pissed that he wasn't getting proper recognition for his images of Renamon being savaged by various critters. |
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Donotsue
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Posted: 10/13/2005 4:22:12 AM
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Heh! =) Karabiner luhvs to illustrate Singshow's Androzons..=) For fun or
for Magazine covers!
And there's no porn in them comics goddammit at least! =) |
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Zorn
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Hahhaha, what the hell? Realistically rendered dinosaur penis? How can you be sure what that even looks like?
Oh, and heres one of his six-breasted furries. Obviously not one of his more horrifying works, but that tongue is just.....Bleh. |
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Ray Prower
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But fuck, that guy can DRAW. If he's a professional artist, where the fuck does he find time for this shit? It's plainly obvious that he spends fucking hours on them. My cutoff time for furry porn was around 2 hours, otherwise i could have acctually gotten something useful done.
What gets me is why he'd even bother in the first place. He did this really cool Halo pic recently, which only reinforces that he's capable of doing something other than FURRY SHIT, DOG KNOTS and SUPER REALISTIC DOG KNOTS.
Find a new hobby, Kar. :( |
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Troggler
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What gets me is why he'd even bother in the first place. He did this really cool Halo pic recently, which only reinforces that he's capable of doing something other than FURRY SHIT, DOG KNOTS and SUPER REALISTIC DOG KNOTS.
Find a new hobby, Kar. :(
Hmmm... So he'd be a great artist... if he'd just stop drawing furry art. :roll:
I wonder how many other artists can say the same?
You know, I can't help but wonder, is furry art in general a handicap for some artists? For a fandom built on expression, some people don't express themselves very artistically.
This is the mental picture forming in my mind when I look at the newest art on VCL (While playing Teh Furry Drinking Game, of course)
"LOL U GUYZ I DRAW BUUBS W/FUR"
"LOLZ I BUY"
"LOLZ I DRAW MOR"
Or
"OMG U GUYZ MY PARENTZ NO UNDERSTAND"
"OMG U WANT YIFF? I DRAW BUUBS"
"I DRAW BLUD"
"LETZ YIFF"
I dunno. I guess somehow It's like this "free-expression" is retarding to some people. They get stuck on something and don't let go. (Amigas, for example... COUGHewsCOUGH)
Then again, couldn't you say the same for the rest of the internet? |
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Stoneth
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:47:43 AM
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I like Karabiner. I think he's an awesome artist. I also happen to like Digimon (in case you haven't guess it by now) and so I like his Digimon art too (WS).
As for his adult art, it's kind of tame in comparison to the other horrors of VCL. At least he doesn't fall prey to the bad-drawn-smut curse that afflicts various VCL artists. |
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Ruphia
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Posted: 10/13/2005 6:59:31 AM
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I always wonder if Karabiner is just the secret, shameful identity of some well known, well respected japanese artist. Like, if he's publishing good, honest work somewhere under another name, and only shares the fucked up furry shit on the net.
And doing it right, unlike EWS-TDK, so that noone actually knows.
...Thanks to Ray Prower for linking the Halo pic, btw, best fanart ever. : D |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:00:03 AM
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I agree with Donny here. Laboring over making an animal dick 'just-so' isn't as bad as the multibreast dog girls he used to do. Most of his stuff isn't atrocity level at all.
I happen to think the TNG parody was scary as anything though, just can't tell why.
Also, this is pretty weird, but no where near Pink's level of atrocity.
That's actually pretty awesome IMO. Reminds me of the music video for 'All Is Full Of Love'. I like it. |
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TheBobSays
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:49:11 AM
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I always wonder if Karabiner is just the secret, shameful identity of some well known, well respected japanese artist. Like, if he's publishing good, honest work somewhere under another name, and only shares the fucked up furry shit on the net.
That's my guess as well. Considering what Micah Fennec said in a different thread (Or more, the LJ she linked to), I'd wager this is all made for personal amusement.
That's actually pretty awesome IMO. Reminds me of the music video for 'All Is Full Of Love'. I like it.
Time for the Björk song. Also: I just noticed the apple logo on the lower left monitor. Don't know what that means, beyond that it's sad that I noticed that. |
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Ray Prower
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Posted: 10/13/2005 11:09:36 AM
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What gets me is why he'd even bother in the first place. He did this really cool Halo pic recently, which only reinforces that he's capable of doing something other than FURRY SHIT, DOG KNOTS and SUPER REALISTIC DOG KNOTS.
Find a new hobby, Kar. :(
Hmmm... So he'd be a great artist... if he'd just stop drawing furry art. :roll:
I wonder how many other artists can say the same?
No you see, the problem is that he already is a great artist, as shown by the quality and detail of his work, which he could be using on something other than what I described.
Pro-tip: It helps to understand the point somebody is making before responding! |
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AngryPuritan
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Posted: 10/13/2005 1:22:38 PM
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As for his adult art, it's kind of tame in comparison to the other horrors of VCL. At least he doesn't fall prey to the bad-drawn-smut curse that afflicts various VCL artists.
I can't help but agree, for being furry and Japanese, yeah he does some weird shit, but not anything that's out-and-out mindfucking. He seems to be incredibly skilled, and if I was going to point and mock a furry for drawing realistic doggy cocks, I would pick on someone who had not talent.
Karbringer isn't a bad artist, only maybe a sad one, depending how you look at it. Unless he's caused some drama elsewhere, there really is no reason for a mention in the AA. This is dangerously close to a generalized "LOL FURRIES". |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:51:48 PM
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Karabiner's way too obsessed with lovingly-rendered animal genitalia to not be in the atrocity archive. I have no idea if all those cocks he draws are anatomically correct, but that level of detail has a not-so-subtle tinge of zoophilia about it.
Also, long-time exposure to furry fandom seems to make people think of fairly good artists as really great artists. Karabiner doesn't draw badly, but he's not that good either. His grip on proper proportions and foreshortening is only so-so, he just covers it up with a lot of shading and details in the colouring. |
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Posted: 10/13/2005 7:59:49 PM
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That's not so disturbing.. His critters with 6 tits always are! =)
Hm... Or was that Dr Comet stuff... Kara draws mainly boehs!
He used to draw alot of digimon
and then he stopped
and a bunch of people went OH NOES
and the world continued to turn because those people were furries
HEY, I WAS ONE OF THOSE FURRIES.
His renamon work was fucking amazing.
IT WAS SO PRETTY, Hell, half of it wasn't even naked stuff..
Much of it was langere(spelling?) and outifts..
But some of the hardcore stuff was fucking insane.
EDIT: By insane, I mean, it was scary.. Six nipples of ranging sizes ETC. |
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baserock love
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:09:22 PM
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Karabiner's way too obsessed with lovingly-rendered animal genitalia to not be in the atrocity archive. I have no idea if all those cocks he draws are anatomically correct, but that level of detail has a not-so-subtle tinge of zoophilia about it.
Also, long-time exposure to furry fandom seems to make people think of fairly good artists as really great artists. Karabiner doesn't draw badly, but he's not that good either. His grip on proper proportions and foreshortening is only so-so, he just covers it up with a lot of shading and details in the colouring.
I would say his obviously zoophilic drawings are a bigger indicator than his hyper realistic dog knots. I have seen somewhere his drawing of renamon fucking a horse and krystal fox getting raped by a german shepherd, that's what makes him zoophilic.
Also don't forget his pedo work, I've seen him drawing huge anthro lions and digimon characters fucking the children from digimon, but they are drawn to look even younger, like 7 years old. Fucking ASS.
So his fetishes involve
ultra feminine shemales
Hyper realistic animal genitals
pedo
zoophilia
digimon
i would say he belongs in AA as much as anybody with those fetishes |
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5thehardway
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:49:28 PM
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Heres an example: http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Den/Adult/KarHos04.JPG
This image is practically of Lovecraftian horror. All those photo-realistically rendered animal penises make me almost afraid to get an erection ever again.
That is one ugly-looking cock. I mean, I don't doubt that it's accurately rendered and all, but...
Then again, what do I know? I'm just a mundane! |
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baserock love
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Posted: 10/13/2005 8:50:47 PM
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Heres an example: http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Den/Adult/KarHos04.JPG
This image is practically of Lovecraftian horror. All those photo-realistically rendered animal penises make me almost afraid to get an erection ever again.
That is one ugly-looking cock. I mean, I don't doubt that it's accurately rendered and all, but...
Then again, what do I know? I'm just a mundane!
Those bumps around the head of it. It looks like he's got genital warts :x |
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Donotsue
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Ribbed ...for pedo pleasure. =) |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 10/13/2005 9:54:34 PM
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That's not so disturbing.. His critters with 6 tits always are! =)
Hm... Or was that Dr Comet stuff... Kara draws mainly boehs!
He used to draw alot of digimon
and then he stopped
and a bunch of people went OH NOES
and the world continued to turn because those people were furries
HEY, I WAS ONE OF THOSE FURRIES.
His renamon work was fucking amazing.
IT WAS SO PRETTY, Hell, half of it wasn't even naked stuff..
Much of it was langere(spelling?) and outifts..
But some of the hardcore stuff was fucking insane.
EDIT: By insane, I mean, it was scary.. Six nipples of ranging sizes ETC.
I was just saying that to cover my own ass
I looked at his renamon stuff too
that's the only reason I knew who he was. |
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Oh, snap! Not penises!
This guy is seriously vanilla. I got nothing against porn, and the worst thing I can say is that he draws really detailed porn. Good for him. Some of his girls I wouldn't mind on my desktop. He keeps his twisted shit out of public view, doesn't scream FURRY PRIDE, isn't trying to sell a cause or fetish... least entertaining AA thread, bleh. Pretty decent guy by all accounts and actually talented.
Prower's Halo pic makes the thread awesome, though. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 10/13/2005 9:59:09 PM
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Karabiner's way too obsessed with lovingly-rendered animal genitalia to not be in the atrocity archive. I have no idea if all those cocks he draws are anatomically correct, but that level of detail has a not-so-subtle tinge of zoophilia about it.
Also, long-time exposure to furry fandom seems to make people think of fairly good artists as really great artists. Karabiner doesn't draw badly, but he's not that good either. His grip on proper proportions and foreshortening is only so-so, he just covers it up with a lot of shading and details in the colouring.
I would say his obviously zoophilic drawings are a bigger indicator than his hyper realistic dog knots. I have seen somewhere his drawing of renamon fucking a horse and krystal fox getting raped by a german shepherd, that's what makes him zoophilic.
Also don't forget his pedo work, I've seen him drawing huge anthro lions and digimon characters fucking the children from digimon, but they are drawn to look even younger, like 7 years old. Fucking ASS.
So his fetishes involve
ultra feminine shemales
Hyper realistic animal genitals
pedo
zoophilia
digimon
i would say he belongs in AA as much as anybody with those fetishes
welcome to japan. |
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Computolio
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he's like dr. comet
only GAY |
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baserock love
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Karabiner's way too obsessed with lovingly-rendered animal genitalia to not be in the atrocity archive. I have no idea if all those cocks he draws are anatomically correct, but that level of detail has a not-so-subtle tinge of zoophilia about it.
Also, long-time exposure to furry fandom seems to make people think of fairly good artists as really great artists. Karabiner doesn't draw badly, but he's not that good either. His grip on proper proportions and foreshortening is only so-so, he just covers it up with a lot of shading and details in the colouring.
I would say his obviously zoophilic drawings are a bigger indicator than his hyper realistic dog knots. I have seen somewhere his drawing of renamon fucking a horse and krystal fox getting raped by a german shepherd, that's what makes him zoophilic.
Also don't forget his pedo work, I've seen him drawing huge anthro lions and digimon characters fucking the children from digimon, but they are drawn to look even younger, like 7 years old. Fucking ASS.
So his fetishes involve
ultra feminine shemales
Hyper realistic animal genitals
pedo
zoophilia
digimon
i would say he belongs in AA as much as anybody with those fetishes
welcome to japan.
I've acctually discussed this here but when i was in japan i went into a few porn shops.................................NEVER AGAIN |
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he's like dr. comet
only GAY
Well... yeah, pretty much. Summed it up in six words. |
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That's not so disturbing.. His critters with 6 tits always are! =)
Hm... Or was that Dr Comet stuff... Kara draws mainly boehs!
He used to draw alot of digimon
and then he stopped
and a bunch of people went OH NOES
and the world continued to turn because those people were furries
Some of his Digimon work is rumored to be on display in Bandai HQ and a US game guide publisher used some of his art for a "Digimon World 3" guide.
He's gotten really odd lately too. He's on DNP lists everwhere, is said to hate furries for non-stop asking for more Renamon art and he's got no less then 3-4 pen names (Den, etc). Yet he's one of the older known Japanese furry artists, next to Comet, i'd guess. |
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That's not so disturbing.. His critters with 6 tits always are! =)
Hm... Or was that Dr Comet stuff... Kara draws mainly boehs!
He used to draw alot of digimon
and then he stopped
and a bunch of people went OH NOES
and the world continued to turn because those people were furries
Some of his Digimon work is rumored to be on display in Bandai HQ and a US game guide publisher used some of his art for a "Digimon World 3" guide.
He's gotten really odd lately too. He's on DNP lists everwhere, is said to hate furries for non-stop asking for more Renamon art and he's got no less then 3-4 pen names (Den, etc). Yet he's one of the older known Japanese furry artists, next to Comet, i'd guess.
I hate it when people keep asking me to do stuff too.
Would you like it if people kept asking you to draw them some porn.
Wait are people offering him money if so nevermind because I'm a total whore* for cash.
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The really hilarious part about him swearing off Digimon porn was that he did it because people only cared about the porn, not the artist drawing it. He was actually pissed that he wasn't getting proper recognition for his images of Renamon being savaged by various critters.
In fact.. I would hate it if I used 3+ hours on a piece I think is "art" and then just a bunch of horny teenagers jerk off to it and ask me to draw more wank material.
I draw alot of.. er.. stuff. Some of it pretty disturbing(I draw humans. Not furry porn tho) but I do it more because I want to try my limits as an artist, and some different.. stuff is harder to do than some other, and some things* give more effect in a picture.
Drawing erotic art is in my opinion alot harder than drawing a kid running on a field of flowers.
It is hard to draw two(or even more d_d) people so close to eachother and make them look like they ENJOY it without making them look ridicilous.
Thought.. I do not spread my porn all over the internet :D
I show it only to people who I know that will help me improve with it and see it as art, not wank material.
Do I win D:?
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The really hilarious part about him swearing off Digimon porn was that he did it because people only cared about the porn, not the artist drawing it. He was actually pissed that he wasn't getting proper recognition for his images of Renamon being savaged by various critters.
In fact.. I would hate it if I used 3+ hours on a piece I think is "art" and then just a bunch of horny teenagers jerk off to it and ask me to draw more wank material.
I draw alot of.. er.. stuff. Some of it pretty disturbing(I draw humans. Not furry porn tho) but I do it more because I want to try my limits as an artist, and some different.. stuff is harder to do than some other, and some things* give more effect in a picture.
Drawing erotic art is in my opinion alot harder than drawing a kid running on a field of flowers.
It is hard to draw two(or even more d_d) people so close to eachother and make them look like they ENJOY it without making them look ridicilous.
Thought.. I do not spread my porn all over the internet :D
I show it only to people who I know that will help me improve with it and see it as art, not wank material.
Do I win D:?
*I won't go in detail here
Considering some of the weird shit you've told us you draw (i think...) i'm going to have to assume that you draw what you draw at least partly cuz it turns you on, just like the furries, in that case, how can you expect other not to be? In general erotic art ranges from trashy (my stuff) to nothing more than highclass wank material (greek renaissance sculpture etc.), it's not erotic if it's not supposed to be titilating.
When i think of non erotic porn i think of stuff like the halle berry nude scene in monsters ball, something like that takes mad skill to make. If you can put two people, naked in semi graphics sex and make it downright disturbing/uncomfortable for the viewer then you got skills and it ceases to be wank material and becomes art, that's just me though. |
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Monkey King
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In fact.. I would hate it if I used 3+ hours on a piece I think is "art" and then just a bunch of horny teenagers jerk off to it and ask me to draw more wank material.
You might have a point here if we were talking about something like tasteful nudes. But when you're drawing hardcore Digimon smut, you don't really have a whole lot of room to whine about artistic appreciation. Pornographic material attracts a certain kind of crowd, especially among furries, and you're just being willfully naive if you think most people will look at your smut as anything more than just something to jerk off to. |
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In fact.. I would hate it if I used 3+ hours on a piece I think is "art" and then just a bunch of horny teenagers jerk off to it and ask me to draw more wank material.
You might have a point here if we were talking about something like tasteful nudes. But when you're drawing hardcore Digimon smut, you don't really have a whole lot of room to whine about artistic appreciation. Pornographic material attracts a certain kind of crowd, especially among furries, and you're just being willfully naive if you think most people will look at your smut as anything more than just something to jerk off to.
...Except that some furry smut artists ARE worshipped like gods for their smut; or at the very least, their names are known far and wide across the masses. EWS, Blackrabbit, arguably even Winger. Not that I'm saying that any of this is GOOD, mind you - if the big-time smutpeddlers weren't constantly being verbally jacked-off by their fans and having tons of cash thrown at them, they might (a) improve, (b) have smaller egos, (c) draw things other than smut.
But I digress. Getting back on topic, I do find many lulz in that the artist in question swore off the Digimon porn due to lack of proper recognition. I don't totally agree with SkunkDog; I mean, if you draw blatant hardcore pornographic images, you can't really expect people to see your signature amongst the tits and the cocks and the shittingdicknipples. But I can see how it would really suck to get a thousand "OMG DRAW MORE" comments without a single "Wow I like your stuff" comment. Such is the fickle and selfish nature of the furry wanker, though. |
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But when you're drawing hardcore Digimon smut
D: I draw no digimon smut..
My point in that post was that if you draw horrid porn, you need right kind of audience for it, and posting it around internet and getting hurt when people just wank to it is just stupid.
Sometimes when I draw some horrid porn I start feeling really.. weird.. it's the same feeling I get from putting a match off with my mouth, riding a bike from really high hill at full speed or ride a rollercoaster.
It gets my adrenaline going :D
And that's why I do it.
Thought sometimes I get this "Holy hell! What am I drawing!"-feeling but then I remember that no one doesn't have to see it and I finish it.
Oh, and;
I don't jerk off to my art :)
I don't think I have told anyone here what I draw.. thought I'm half the time drunk when I post here.
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DracoXII
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Thought sometimes I get this "Holy hell! What am I drawing!"-feeling but then I remember that no one doesn't have to see it and I finish it.
Boy to I ever know that feeling, wonder how many other furries get that when they draw the hoffying art that makes me want to claw my eyes out for witnessing it.. and Im a guy who drawn f**king Yoshi porn.
Good gods I wonder whats wrong with me sometimes. |
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The New Meat
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Thought sometimes I get this "Holy hell! What am I drawing!"-feeling but then I remember that no one doesn't have to see it and I finish it.
Boy to I ever know that feeling, wonder how many other furries get that when they draw the hoffying art that makes me want to claw my eyes out for witnessing it.. and Im a guy who drawn f**king Yoshi porn.
Good gods I wonder whats wrong with me sometimes.
...So you like the Yoshi, eh? |
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Good gods I wonder whats wrong with me sometimes.
Ooh! Ooh! I know! You post in 6-week-idle threads and completely fail to add anything of worth to them. Also, your grammar and spelling suck ass, and FOR FUCK'S SAKE YOU ADMIT TO DRAWING YOSHII PORN. WTF? |
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AngryPuritan
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DracoXII
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Ooh! Ooh! I know! You post in 6-week-idle threads and completely fail to add anything of worth to them. Also, your grammar and spelling suck ass, and FOR FUCK'S SAKE YOU ADMIT TO DRAWING YOSHII PORN. WTF?
I saw the thread read it and and commented, I didnt know it had been dead 6 weeks. |
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AngryPuritan
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I saw the thread read it and and commented, I didnt know it had been dead 6 weeks.
That's why each post is dated, although I don't think 6 weeks is too dead, personally, as long as you had something of value to add. |
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baserock love
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Thought sometimes I get this "Holy hell! What am I drawing!"-feeling but then I remember that no one doesn't have to see it and I finish it.
Boy to I ever know that feeling, wonder how many other furries get that when they draw the hoffying art that makes me want to claw my eyes out for witnessing it.. and Im a guy who drawn f**king Yoshi porn.
Good gods I wonder whats wrong with me sometimes.
As long as it's not "Yoshi vore" porn that's fine. |
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Stoneth
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Im a guy who drawn f**king Yoshi porn.
Cute. BTW, I would have never looked at a Snifit mask and said "that would make a good bra". Your DA gallery isn't that bad (although DA doesn't allow adult art and I can only wonder what you draw that isn't suitable for DA). |
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As long as it's not "Yoshi vore" porn that's fine.
The official fetish associated with Yoshi is of course egg laying. |
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Duck Stab
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Dr. dos, that sounds like you have some sort of syllabus written out. |
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Stoneth
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As long as it's not "Yoshi vore" porn that's fine.
The official fetish associated with Yoshi is of course egg laying.
Now I'm reminded of Dave Kelly's Yoshi Comics. |
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Cute. BTW, I would have never looked at a Snifit mask and said "that would make a good bra". Your DA gallery isn't that bad (although DA doesn't allow adult art and I can only wonder what you draw that isn't suitable for DA).
Thanks, im not that bad.. I guess.. but probably am, but the idea wasnt mine, I left the link in the images descirption for where it orignal came from, just like it so mutch I had to do it myself.
As for my stuff that cant go on deviant I dont do anything to off normal, just plain athro girls, slipped into the trap of Yoshis because people praised me for it too mutch, I know its very wrong inherantly so I cant even begin to defend it.
Im currently getting a space for it at Affront to Nature though.
http://www.affronttonature.com/
As long as it's not "Yoshi vore" porn that's fine.
No danger of that, the alternative (relativly to me that is) side of Furry makes me feel quite queasy at times, odd considering the company of artists I keep... I've only ever drawn a herm once at a request of a freind of mine. |
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DracoXII
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Now I'm reminded of Dave Kelly's Yoshi Comics.
He wouldnt be the guy who does allot of the flash tub on Somethingawful.com would he? or am I just seeing a similar style. |
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Dr. Dos
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Yes he would be. Dave Kelly = Shmorky = awesome. |
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Ooh! Ooh! I know! You post in 6-week-idle threads and completely fail to add anything of worth to them. Also, your grammar and spelling suck ass, and FOR FUCK'S SAKE YOU ADMIT TO DRAWING YOSHII PORN. WTF?
I saw the thread read it and and commented, I didnt know it had been dead 6 weeks.
it hasn't, a day maybe. |
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Stoneth
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Dave Kelly, Cave Deli, Shmorky, whatever. I'm used to calling him Dave Kelly because I first found about him via Living in Greytown. Either way, his stuff is awesome. |
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The Flying Fox
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ARGLE
Yoshi was like my favorite nintendo character when I grew up, he could eat an armored car and multiply just by laying eggs!
And now Yoshi lies dead! Why did you have to kill Yoshi? ;_; |
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DracoXII
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Yes he would be. Dave Kelly = Shmorky = awesome.
A theory sutch as that proves itself to be self evident, I agree with it whole heartedly.
ARGLE
Yoshi was like my favorite nintendo character when I grew up, he could eat an armored car and multiply just by laying eggs!
And now Yoshi lies dead! Why did you have to kill Yoshi? ;_;
Fear not.. for Yoshi is not dead, his spirit lives on in what few fond memories you had left before after my art scoured them away into a dark and unspeakabvle place. |
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baserock love
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As long as it's not "Yoshi vore" porn that's fine.
The official fetish associated with Yoshi is of course egg laying.
Now I'm reminded of Dave Kelly's Yoshi Comics.
Those are seriously so stupid and immature, not very well drawn either but i smiled, lol'd at one of them. Writing a comic is frickin extremely hard, specially on a time budget. |
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baserock love
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As long as it's not "Yoshi vore" porn that's fine.
The official fetish associated with Yoshi is of course egg laying.
Now I'm reminded of Dave Kelly's Yoshi Comics.
Those are seriously so stupid and immature, not very well drawn either but i smiled, lol'd at one of them. Writing a comic is frickin extremely hard, specially on a time budget. |
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...Oh.
The horse is licking it's own cock...
I thought it was an ice cream cone for a while :?
I thought it was some sort of popsicle or something.
And then I scrolled down.
It looks like one of those dairy queen cones...the kinda squishy ones.
hahaha queen |
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Dejan
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Karabiners alias on VCL gave me endless hours of confusion and misunderstandings on IRC over years and years... goddamn 3-letter nicknames.. like there's just one "Den" out there and NOONE read Corben.. Sheesh.
I was told Karabiner and me got the same day-job, though.
Dental technician.
Also Renamonroe! |
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I was told Karabiner and me got the same day-job, though.
Dental technician.
So now the important detail: How finely rendered are the teeth? |
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Dejan
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So now the important detail: How finely rendered are the teeth?
As most artists do, he reduces the amount of detail so that the teeth appear more or less as rows with tips and not single teeth standing next to each other . Makes sense aesthetically, it looks goofy otherwise most of the time.
But in this picture he has drawn them more prominent and we can see that he prefers the canine/feline anatomy² as we see 6 incisive teeth in the upper jaw (humans have 4 incisives, but they are broader and formed more like shovels).
²...but we allready know that by the way he draws cocks... |
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I have nothing against Karabiner
I mean for a japanese furry he's not that crazy.
and he's fairly talented |
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humans have 4 incisives, but they are broader and formed more like shovels
Awesome. There needs to be more dental reviews in general. Just to completely derail this cock thing. I could see it now. At some board, there's a bunch of people praising a shitting dicknipple herm taur, and BAM! Dejan sweeps in and points out, "Hey, the upper left incisor is crooked." Devastating blow! |
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Dejan
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Awesome. There needs to be more dental reviews in general.
Actually that'd be totally lame... dental reviews are depressing and boring.
There ain't even fetish art regarding teeth outside of torture like in "the marathon-man" or oral x-ray cut illustrations or vore/vampirism.
....
Okay, there IS teeth-based fetish art out there, but it's miniscule.
Even feet have their own wild fetish scene spanning multiple fandoms... Thats how boring teeth are.
Hm, I haven't seen a furry with fillings in any pic, yet afair (gold teethed pirates don't count). |
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Monkey King
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I don't even know what my own fillings look like. Most artists of all stripes don't care that much about detail. |
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Actually that'd be totally lame... dental reviews are depressing and boring.
That's the thing! Barring the Ihnatko rule (no matter how odd a fictional fetish you can think up, someone has made a stranger real one), there would be almost no sexual connotation of a dental review. Therefore, it can be used, like a weapon, to suck out the ego like a oral vacuum, complete with disturbing slurping noises. |
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Dejan
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I'm too afraid it'd start a fetish...
I think a better way of killing erections when commenting porn would be an analysation of the technical aspects of genitals on the picture. Measuring proportions, cataloguing the types of shapes with anatomical names and all that.
All done with the lifeless joylessness of an accountant. |
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:? To be honest folks,Iv'e done some pretty rank stuff to pay the bills and feed my family...after this,I feel a helluva lot better....Thanks gang :D :wink: :lol: |
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