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ZenZhu
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Posted: 9/28/2004 5:20:38 PM
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...... of the state of furry fandom, even overseas.
Occasionally, I peek in on a page called Kemono Island. While Dr. Comet, the author of the page, does some pretty freakish stuff, he also does some fairly neat pictures, and his skill is undeniable. I used to look at the oekaki board, since it was interesting to see what kind of stuff people were sketching. I hadn't looked at it in a while. Apparently, however, it's basically turned into a haven for nonmorphic Pokemon porn. Scary stuff.
However, I began to suspect Hell truly existed when I decided to look in today and saw this.(NSFW)
I knew Hell existed when I saw the comments:
Puppy ???: I.P. E-Mail 2004/9/28 (?) 14:45
Please ignore the time. I took a nap in between doing this.^^
???: truth 2004/9/28 (?) 22:48
dude, you really are sick, this isnt even kemono, this is beastiality
???: Zippo 2004/9/28 (?) 23:0
Awe, how cute! Forget the other guy, he obviously has some hangups/issues. :D I think its great, thanks!
You know.. up until this point, I could handle the bad furry art without really flinching. But... this...... stop the bus, I want to get off. |
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Genghis
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:19:01 PM
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Wait wait wait, so now saying "dude, yuck" means you have issues?
Does that mean you have issues if you're disturbed by goatse? How about accident photos? How about this? (play it with the sound turned up for the full effect - nws, oddly enough)
Well, if being disturbed by shit that flies in the face of anything that is good or sane means you have hangups, then just call me captain hook. |
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MagKnightX
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:27:09 PM
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How about this? (play it with the sound turned up for the full effect - nws, oddly enough)
I wouldn't call that so much disturbing as I would FUCKING HILARIOUS! |
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Genghis
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:29:37 PM
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How about this? (play it with the sound turned up for the full effect - nws, oddly enough)
I wouldn't call that so much disturbing as I would FUCKING HILARIOUS! I'll concede that point, but anyone with a hint of a Y chromosome in their body should at least feel some sort of sympathy for the guy. It made me wince the first time I saw it. |
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Kadius
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:31:46 PM
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You know.. up until this point, I could handle the bad furry art without really flinching. But... this...... stop the bus, I want to get off. I know the feeling. When I clicked that link I just kind of froze like a deer in the headlights. Someone put alot of time and effort into it. And they obviously have some level of skill. But... 'chibified' cutesy pokemon beastiality porn is.. well shit, it's horrifying. All pretences aside and this is coming from a guy that browses 4chan. (/b- random grotesque bizarre batshit insanity. /k- weapons. /s- porn). I've know of Comet for two or three years, his work, for being furry art; is completely fappable and probably my favorite.
I took a minute to browse through the first few pages. While most of the stuff is general run of the mill furry art or 'Hey guys, let's draw weird shit.' The guy doing that pokemon stuff just creeps the shit out of me. Obviously there's been stuff like this before, but this just WAY beyond.
For furry the bus is much like the one in Speed. |
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Kadius
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:35:13 PM
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How about this? (play it with the sound turned up for the full effect - nws, oddly enough)
I wouldn't call that so much disturbing as I would FUCKING HILARIOUS! I have to second that. ROFL |
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Quantum Coyote
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Posted: 9/28/2004 8:27:00 PM
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ZenZhu Wrote:
However, I began to suspect Hell truly existed when I decided to look in today and saw this.(NSFW)
that is sad
ZenZhu Wrote:
You know.. up until this point, I could handle the bad furry art without really flinching. But... this...... stop the bus, I want to get off.
That reminds me of some pedo crap I saw on VCL a while back, not good.
A lot of messed up things we see around here and other places are at least somewhat interesting in a gory movie sort of way, but that, well I guess it's informative. For one thing I guess it's another indicator of how anthropomorphics serve as a vessel for fringe tastes. Most of the variety is a good thing, its fun. But this, 'fuck a puppy', fuck YOU whoever you are that drew that. I don't know where to draw the line, but it is definitly before THAT. I guess for now I'll be the optimist, and retain the hope that even if the genre is going to hell in a handbasket there still is some fun to be had in getting there.
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ZenZhu
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Posted: 9/28/2004 8:57:15 PM
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I'll agree that some of Comet's stuff is wankworthy, even if furry. He does some great poses, and the expressiveness of his character's eyes is very skillful. While putting boobies on some nonmorphic lioness from Jungle Emperor Leo might churn the stomach a bit, pictures like his picture for the year of the sheep are at least very artfully done and interesting.
I've seen Pokemorphs that didn't necessarily make you want to claw your eyes out. But, the stuff that seems to be coming up on Comet's oekaki board now isn't even morphic. It's just taking these critters that are barely even recognizable as something resembling an animal and putting a vagina on it. With this puppy, I assume that's supposed to be a vagina. Whatever it is, it looks like the puppy needs a vet, STAT, cuz it has some serious inflammation going on.
And then, when someone dares to suggest that the picture is pretty fucked up, some batshit furry has the audacity to suggest the person has issues. It would have been one thing if they had said "Well, it's a free board. They can draw whatever they want." That would have been stupid, but excusable, since it is true that people are free to draw whatever they want there. But to suggest that someone has hangups or issues because they don't find inflamed puppytwat sexy, and dares to make a post saying so....... that's just the height of furry mentality as it exists today.
I oughta get on there and draw the most fucked-up thing I can think of, just to see what kind of responses it would get.
Is it just me, or does the undivided six pack on Tamar's gift to Comet make the panda look like a fuzzy "dickgirl" with her weenie up her dress? |
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Rankin
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Posted: 9/28/2004 9:34:56 PM
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Is it just me, or does the undivided six pack on Tamar's gift to Comet make the panda look like a fuzzy "dickgirl" with her weenie up her dress?
No. After looking at the face, I scrolled down and thought "Ok, so it's hiding it's pecker. Goddamned how furry perverts the mind. :cry: |
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Anonymous
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Posted: 9/28/2004 11:11:50 PM
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*HEADSHOT*
This is what makes life worth dying in... |
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DA
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Posted: 9/28/2004 11:36:44 PM
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That is just fucking disturbing.....I've got a gallery somewhere that has the odd adultish pokemon picture in it, mostly I do nude pokemorphs, funnily enough the picture with the most comments on it is the non-morphic Eevee that I did out of boredom. It's a five second doodle with nowhere near the effort of most of my work, I was wired on various legal stuff and now can't remember what on earth possessed me to draw it but that shit five second drawing has more comments then one piece I slaved over for two days... :? I guess prevs rule all eh? |
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Paul
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Posted: 9/29/2004 2:24:23 PM
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oekaki board
Hmmm, none of the pictures there are any worse than some of what can be found on VCL or Furnation... it's the combination that makes for the queasy feeling. This very nice picture and this considerably less nice picture ought not to be on the same page. |
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ZenZhu
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Posted: 9/29/2004 3:25:08 PM
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Yes, the nice pictures used to far outweigh the not-so-nice ones back when I'd regularly look in on it. Now, though... OMG. Bonus points for the Pokeporn pic for the artist showing the cutaway of the one thing's tongue inside the other's business and... for not apparent reason, also showing the rectal cavity.
I just don't get it.. Pokemorphs.. okay, I can see how, if nothing else, it's entertaining to morph a Pokemon and put tits on it. But, when someone looks at this...
And says "That's kind of hot.... all it needs is tits." And someone else says "No, man.. forget the tits.. just put a twat on it." I have to stop and boggle. |
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The New Meat
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Posted: 9/30/2004 5:34:39 AM
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mostly I do nude pokemorphs, funnily enough the picture with the most comments on it is the non-morphic Eevee that I did out of boredom.
I think it's funny that you thought it was a good idea to mention this. :) |
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DA
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Posted: 9/30/2004 9:52:25 AM
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mostly I do nude pokemorphs, funnily enough the picture with the most comments on it is the non-morphic Eevee that I did out of boredom.
I think it's funny that you thought it was a good idea to mention this. :)
Eeh..I was bored ;) gotta have some hobbies, least I didn't post it here :lol: |
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Presea
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I took a deep breath and ascended into hell yesterday...
The first image I saw was that of a demon of some sort raping a busty fox-woman. ...
Looking even deeper, I encountered the Pokémon porn. I just don't get it. They're disturbingly well done, and all the commentors go "Ooh, how cute and sexy!" What, they're throwing gentials on kid-appropiate fantasy creatures and inviting the viewer to...well, you know. I even found one of a Pichu (which is a baby Pikachu, I repeat, a baby) done in this fashion.
They put the deviant in art. (shudder)
That's what I hate about online communities for weird fetishes like that. People that have strange fetishes ("I love my dog in more than one way") go online, find a variety of people that love what they love and spout out a deluge of pornographic artwork. Then the people encourage each other. "Oh there's other people out there that like rubbing beanie babies on their gentitals, then it must be normal!" When anyone tries to say that the fetish is strange, or speak out for the objects in the fetish ("Your dog does not want to have sex with you") they immediately are silenced and derided by the community. |
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I took a deep breath and ascended into hell yesterday...
The first image I saw was that of a demon of some sort raping a busty fox-woman. ...
Looking even deeper, I encountered the Pokémon porn. I just don't get it. They're disturbingly well done, and all the commentors go "Ooh, how cute and sexy!" What, they're throwing gentials on kid-appropiate fantasy creatures and inviting the viewer to...well, you know. I even found one of a Pichu (which is a baby Pikachu, I repeat, a baby) done in this fashion.
They put the deviant in art. (shudder)
That's what I hate about online communities for weird fetishes like that. People that have strange fetishes ("I love my dog in more than one way") go online, find a variety of people that love what they love and spout out a deluge of pornographic artwork. Then the people encourage each other. "Oh there's other people out there that like rubbing beanie babies on their gentitals, then it must be normal!" When anyone tries to say that the fetish is strange, or speak out for the objects in the fetish ("Your dog does not want to have sex with you") they immediately are silenced and derided by the community.
Such tyranny is fairly common in human behaviour. See how long you live in North Korea if you speak against the truly whacked regime there. At the lower end of the spectrum we have furry. Or this crap. All human endeavor is governed by mob rule. And if the mob are defined by having batshit insanity in common, well, then that's what they have. Nothing new.
It only boggles the mind if you go in expecting sanity. Stop expecting sanity and nothing surprises you. |
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Jiffers
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This one's truely horrific. =)
http://www.kurumi.sakura.ne.jp/~kemono/oekaki/data/OB003955.png
(NWS, of course) |
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mouse
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This one's truely horrific. =)
http://www.kurumi.sakura.ne.jp/~kemono/oekaki/data/OB003955.png
(NWS, of course)
RATATA?! Wtf have they done to him ?!
(I have no excuse for knowing what this pokemon character is) |
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Paul
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This one's truely horrific. =)
http://www.kurumi.sakura.ne.jp/~kemono/oekaki/data/OB003955.png
(NWS, of course)
RATATA?! Wtf have they done to him ?!
(I have no excuse for knowing what this pokemon character is)
I wouldn't know one pokemon charater from the next, but the pic is utterly horrible anyway. BLAAARGH |
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Presea
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Wow. That board is much a hell-hole of sheer...well, depravity.
A comment following a picture of a cat being tentacle raped:
Woah, non-anthros are much better in tentacles. I love this concept and picture a lot!
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It's such a shame, too, because there's a really well-done artist's rendition of a fanfic featuring Ru Rufus, a character from one of the Final Fantasy animes, and...of course, her sister, when powered up, has to do panty-shots and has nipples sticking out on her shirt. Why ruin a serious yet entertaining mood with obvious pandering?
...Oh wait, this is the furry fandom I'm talking about... |
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baserock love
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I'm aware that those.......things were posted on a furry art site but isn't the pokemon crap a fandom in it's self with there own assortment of degenerates? Or are the two seperate yet intersecting like some kind of unholy venn diagram and meet in the middle with the pedophilac kiddy zoophile porn?
Either way i now have a blind spot in the middle of my field of vision shaped like a puppies yeast bloated puess
It's because of fetor like this that i'm getting increasingly glad i took my porn down from vcl
I could totally see in my future some dick working with me at whatever art/animation job i end up in (hopefully) that has a passing knowledge of furry and tells heads that I'm into furry porn. Then the heads ask what furry porn is then BOOM he wips out the puppypuessy pic as an example. It'd be over, i'd have to quit my job, then i'd start drinking again, and shoot up junk in my eyeball |
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Presea
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Wow. The comments on this board are truly disturbing. On a pornographic piece with a non-morphic Suicune (a very pretty Water-type beast):
OMG!!! Yet another Wonderful Pic Moro.Q ^.^;
I want to move over her, lay softly against her and softly, slowly slide inside her silkyness. ^.^;; |
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ZenZhu
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Well, hell, you're talking about a fandom, let alone one oekaki board, where anyone can draw something that's even sub-par for a 4-year-old and people will post comments like, "Nice! Great work!" or "Sexy beast! **murrs** ^.^" or "I'm fapping to it right now!" It'd be really interesting to know what the events were that led up to this current state in furrydom where no one dares to suggest anyone has room for improvement. There's a difference between encouraging someone's improvement, and just being a total yes-man. So, if they're not even willing to suggest someone's work has a LOT of room for improvement, you think they're really going to have the balls to suggest zoopedopokeporn is not only twisted, but just dumb.... like.... Stryper dumb.
You kind of have to wonder how many of these posts of praise are because someone genuinely liked the image, or if they're just posting it to have their voice counted among the others. Kind of like claiming you met Dustin Hoffman once, and praised him greatly for Ishtar... merely as a way of pointing out you got to swap words with him. |
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I'm aware that those.......things were posted on a furry art site but isn't the pokemon crap a fandom in it's self with there own assortment of degenerates? Or are the two seperate yet intersecting like some kind of unholy venn diagram and meet in the middle with the pedophilac kiddy zoophile porn?
A lot of cartoon porn of mainstream characters is its own thing IMO. I think some people treat it like a game. Well, people with too much time on thier hands anyway. Theyll go out and try to draw porn of every single cartoon out there. Stuff that has cartoon animals animal characters will have cross over with furry fandom, just like stuff with anime characters will have crossover with anime fandom. (or both or other fan groups involved)
I could totally see in my future some dick working with me at whatever art/animation job i end up in (hopefully) that has a passing knowledge of furry and tells heads that I'm into furry porn. Then the heads ask what furry porn is then BOOM he wips out the puppypuessy pic as an example. It'd be over, i'd have to quit my job, then i'd start drinking again, and shoot up junk in my eyeball
Not that I draw or that I'd ever be drawing stuff I would be at all ashamed of - but still this is terribly terribly wrong. No, instead , if this ever happens you gotta be up in your bosses face all like "...the fuck did you just say to me? -- shutup. Go get me a can of pop from the vending machine, BITCH. This ones on YOU. And hurry the fuck up this time." Make sure its in front of everyone else at the office too, so they all see you da man, not him. you just gotta take CONTROL of these situations when they arise. :)
sweet, self-delusion.
(or, in all seriousness, you could work a situation like this to your advantage in a corporate environment. Ive been working in one for 4 years and I always figured when I was sick enough of the place I was gonna cause a 'Furry Porn Monster' incident at work just for shits and giggles. And see if I could get myself into a position where I'd be virtually unfire-able. Ive seen it work before. several times in fact.) |
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But ya can't discriminate puppy fuckers or pedos... =)
You hafta hire minorities.. and wimmen.. and gays and blind... or you're a facsist corporate pig! |
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