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The New Meat
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Posted: 3/4/2005 10:21:39 AM     Post subject: Destroyin' Lives  

I was bored tonight and, since I'm an attention whore, I thought I'd pop back to the Kit n' Kay Boodle forum to see if there'd been any more reaction to the article or if everyone was more concerned with resuming mother fucking. (Answer: Mother fucking). But while Katellis and Shirlee continue to be weirdly NORMAL, there were some odd posts by AmyStereo:

Take it from someone who has been CYDed (I would rather not get into it, thank you- Let's just say it really has brought me much hardship): Take what they say with a grain of salt, but don't write them off as a joke! There are people who do, in fact, take what CYD says seriously. These are unhappy folks who feel they must take the bully approach to make themselves feel worthy, that is, they try to make themselves look good by hurting others. People's lives have been ruined by CYD- including my own, and I want nothing to do with them.


...

Hey, we ruined someone's life. Who knew?

But more confusing:

So what has this to do with CYD? Well, other than "Pogo" being a furry strip from the '50s with a skunkette everyone fell in love with- Madame Hepzibah- It's also about the most destructive people in the furry community- People who, for one reason or another, want to tear down icons and other vocal people (such as myself), and about the people who follow the CYD bile, just as you described. There is as much a fundemental belief from quite a few that believe no-one can possibly be as nice/harmless/whatever as they seem, and must be torn down- They're perfectly willing to believe the worst.

In my case, I'm naturally charismatic, which I consider a curse, not a blessing. It brings me no end of trouble, and such trouble, whether I want it or not, follows me-- Such as whomever this CYD mole is, who conveniently seems to crop up when I happen to be someplace, such as Gene's forum and here. Rather than attacking me directly, they attack the proprietors of the forums- Such as you and Richard. (I've already had death threats, or threats of harm elsewhere where I am not around- Only cowards talk sich bile behind someone's back, and only cowards seek harm to others, whether in words or deeds. (I don't care for bullies, and there are a few.) No good thing comes from hatemongering, or threats against someone....And those who dismiss this behaviour as just being the way they are are equally culpable, encouraging this kind of behaviour to go on. Even if it's someone you consider a friend, you have a responsibility to speak out when something is wrong. (Some of you may know what, and whom, I'm talking about- Good. Others who don't, please understand that I'm not going to name names, or I'll be as bad as those whom I have no respect for are- And I know they're here. I cannot respect someone who acts disrespectful of others. I only know of these threats because they have been brought to my attention by friends who were concerned, including actual chat logs.)


I may be reading this wrong but apparently my rants against Kit 'n' Kay Boodle and Gene Catlowe weren't really aimed at KnK or Gene Catlowe at all. No, rather they were veiled threats against a random forum poster that I've never heard of before this moment.

edit: Never mind, turns out I'm a retard and it's just Quozl. False alarm.
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Posted: 3/4/2005 11:11:51 AM     Post subject: Re: Destroyin' Lives  

I am incredible.


To be honest, I faked it. Sorry. 8)
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Posted: 3/4/2005 12:25:34 PM     Post subject:  

Oh, goodie gumdrops. Like The New Meat says, AmyStereo is the online nick of Dennis "Quozl" Falk.

You reading this, AmyStereo? CYD ruined your life? Um, hello, mr. drama queen, you friggin' stalked Tress MacNeille, you behaved like such an utter psychopath that it played part in the TTA creators' decision to stop the show... and CYD ruined your life? I'd say you did that entirely on your own.

Once again, no one really cares what weird fantasies people entertain in the privacy of their own home, but when they make those weird fantasies public and, like AmyFalkQuozlStereo, actually behave like an honest-to-god psycho in real life... it has consequences.

Jeez.
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Posted: 3/4/2005 5:48:22 PM     Post subject: Re: Destroyin' Lives  

People's lives have been ruined by CYD- including my own


Fucking hypocrite.
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Posted: 3/4/2005 6:58:24 PM     Post subject:  

That's some pretty potent voodoo we gots goin' if we can just sit around and talk smack about the loonier furs and ruin lives in the process. Most people have to actually do something to affect a person's life. We ruin 'em with wordses.

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Posted: 3/4/2005 8:26:54 PM     Post subject:  

What a drama queen. Everybody hates me and they're ruining my life, PAY ATTENTION TO ME DAMNIT.

(I've already had death threats, or threats of harm elsewhere where I am not around- Only cowards talk sich bile behind someone's back, and only cowards seek harm to others, whether in words or deeds. (I don't care for bullies, and there are a few.) No good thing comes from hatemongering, or threats against someone....And those who dismiss this behaviour as just being the way they are are equally culpable, encouraging this kind of behaviour to go on.


When have any of us threatened someone's safety on here? :roll:

He goes on and on about he's being OMG fursecuted, but never gives any names. Is he being paranoid or an attention whore?
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Posted: 3/4/2005 8:39:34 PM     Post subject:  

Is he being paranoid or an attention whore?


A little from column A, a little from column B.
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Posted: 3/4/2005 9:03:48 PM     Post subject:  

The whole misinterpretation of "hatemongering" still mystifies me. Basically, by furry logic, they're all part of a CYD/SA/EAF/PoE hate group. Some, in a broader use of their logic, are part of a hy00man hate group.
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Posted: 3/4/2005 9:06:11 PM     Post subject:  

Been Googling for a bit and I cant find any evidence that Dennis Falk ever stalked Tress MacNeille. Nor Can I find any link to her show getting canned because of Falk. Can someone please give me a URL? I am seeing tons of fan sites for Animaniacs and I was thinking they would be shaking their fists at Falk but not one has any mention of this person.

Thanks
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Posted: 3/4/2005 11:22:53 PM     Post subject:  

The "Please, Please, Pleese Get A Life Foundation" episode of Animaniacs was a poke at Quozl, I believe...
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Posted: 3/4/2005 11:32:37 PM     Post subject:  

http://www.fuzzy.com/tooninfo/segment_info.asp?segment=714

Hmm... i dont see the connection.
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Posted: 3/4/2005 11:47:03 PM     Post subject:  

The "Please, Please, Pleese Get A Life Foundation" episode of Animaniacs was a poke at Quozl, I believe...


Er... I suppose, but not having seen the episode, I cannot verify this information. I can pull up some info in which he was poked as by the show he was so infatuated with:

Either before or shortly after the stalking incident (we can't nail down a date), Tom Ruegger (one of the writers for and co-creators of the Tiny Toons show) was interviewed on TV, and related the stalking incidents as one of the reasons for losing interest and moving on to Animaniacs. He said he was fed up with the "internet fans", adding that the final episode of the show (a Halloween special) contained a satirical poke at "the main guy". Falk was indirectly caricatured in that episode as "The world's most terrifying creature", an overweight, pathetic, obsessive, mumbling loser who talked about various flaws in the visual presentation and wondered aloud when Fifi LeFume would get her own show.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 12:29:46 AM     Post subject:  

The "Please, Please, Pleese Get A Life Foundation" episode of Animaniacs was a poke at Quozl, I believe...
It was a poke at alt.tv.animaniacs in general and the fans that raced onto the newsgroup after watching a ep and pick it apart with stuff like animation goofs.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 12:40:40 AM     Post subject:  

I cannot find a Halloween special that has a episode as "The world's most terrifying creature".

http://www.tvtome.com/TinyToonAdventures/eplist.html

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/EpisodeGuideServlet/showid-2077/Animaniacs/

I googled on it too Ė all I got was CYD. Terrorís other piece of evidence is some TV interview with a writer that only he has seen. This is looking pretty week.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:04:06 AM     Post subject:  

Yes. You're right. Your valiant heroic efforts to disprove statements made on the internet regarding a cartoon canceled over a decade ago have proven that the entire world is out to stomp upon your cuddlyyiffyhugglemate. You're vindicated. Now fuck off.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:07:29 AM     Post subject:  

I cannot find a Halloween special that has a episode as "The world's most terrifying creature".

http://www.tvtome.com/TinyToonAdventures/eplist.html


"The world's most terrifying creature" is the name of that character meant to mock Falk, not the episode itself. Take a look at the very bottom of that list. You'll see the Halloween episode listed there.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:20:41 AM     Post subject:  

Yes. You're right. Your valiant heroic efforts to disprove statements made on the internet regarding a cartoon canceled over a decade ago have proven that the entire world is out to stomp upon your cuddlyyiffyhugglemate. You're vindicated. Now fuck off.


Then take down the slanderous article and all the other articles that are full of nothing but unsubstantiated slander. Then I would be more then happy to oblige your request.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:25:54 AM     Post subject:  

TEH DRAMA!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:29:49 AM     Post subject:  

OMG UNSUBSTANCIATED RUMOURS... ON MY INTERNET?

Sorry, a commonly held belief is still that - and I actually remember this episode in question. I have no idea wether or not it was to pay homage to Quozl, but it did have a rather similar feel of disdain..
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Posted: 3/5/2005 2:18:41 AM     Post subject:  

Yes. You're right. Your valiant heroic efforts to disprove statements made on the internet regarding a cartoon canceled over a decade ago have proven that the entire world is out to stomp upon your cuddlyyiffyhugglemate. You're vindicated. Now fuck off.


HEAR HEAR!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 3:14:25 AM     Post subject:  

slanderous slandery slander of the slandeistic slanderily slander on the slanderous issue of slander.

slander.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 3:17:47 AM     Post subject:  

Then take down the slanderous article and all the other articles that are full of nothing but unsubstantiated slander. Then I would be more then happy to oblige your request.


You're Dennis Falk, aren't you?
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:12:03 AM     Post subject:  

Yeah, 10 years ago yet CYD continues to persecute furies as if what they did happened yesterday. Give it a rest people.

I am not Falk, I just stumbled across CYD while Googling. I heard about fur-suits on the radio coming home from work and Googled it and landed here. Was funny/sick to read your stuff on that so I read more and saw that most of what your are posting is just slander, a good example is your ďarticleĒ on EWS. Over and over CYD speculates and speculates all the while calling him names such as assclown and coward. You people are publishing these peopleís real names and pictures as if they are criminals and you sit behind your wall of fake names and anonymity. You view the morph porn and then turn around and write the meanest things you can about them. The furies hurt no one but you bigots jack off to their porn and then have the gall to put them down for doing nothing more then sharing their fantasy with anyone that wanted to. They didnít ask you to like it, if you donít then go do something else.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:16:22 AM     Post subject:  

I heard about fur-suits on the radio coming home from work and Googled it and landed here.


http://www.fursuitsex.com

There's your fursuits.
*edit* looks like fss.com is down. Poor you. :D*/edit*

You people are publishing these peopleís real names and pictures as if they are criminals and you sit behind your wall of fake names and anonymity. They didnít ask you to like it, if you donít then go do something else.


Hahaha, yeas some of us do hide behind internet-names, and psudonyms. But if you'd like I'll be GLAD to give you my phon number and we can chat the night away about my personal life. Hell, I may even give you my social, if you're sweet enough!


They didnít ask you to like it, if you donít then go do something else.


Uuh, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GO THE FUCK AWAY?! Take your own damn advice, hipocrite.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:22:42 AM     Post subject:  

yeah as soon as you hear about fursuits you immediately become an expert on the fandom and its history.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:23:05 AM     Post subject:  

Uuh, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GO THE FUCK AWAY?! Take your own damn advice, hipocrite.


There is a difference here, I am not the one posting names, pictures and slander.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:26:04 AM     Post subject:  

Yeah, 10 years ago yet CYD continues to persecute furies as if what they did happened yesterday. Give it a rest people.

Because he's still a psychotic dramawhoring fucktard :twisted: I mean what the fuck people you need to start paying attention before you post :roll:

Hahaha, yeas some of us do hide behind internet-names, and psudonyms. But if you'd like I'll be GLAD to give you my phon number and we can chat the night away about my personal life. Hell, I may even give you my social, if you're sweet enough!

I'm sad that you offered your number to a rambling, shambling mess of a psychotic (or boyfriend thereof), and didn't extend the offer to me :(

I feel like I've been hit in the face multiple times with the butt-end of the rejection rifle lately jeez
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:28:51 AM     Post subject:  


There is a difference here, I am not the one posting names, pictures and slander.


Want a name? Andrea Banrai Brooks. Yes, Banrai. I'm one of those furries that got my 'furry' name added to my real name. Make fun of me. You know you want to. :D
Want a picture? Fine

I'm pudgy, overweight even... Make fun of me, you won't be the first one.
Want some slander? Hahaha, I've got PLENTY of that. But I've already mentioned that in another thread. You want it, you go find it schnookims.
Want some furry porn? Well, I don't do that. Except for CYD members. :D http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Banrai/bantaurtrueform.jpg
that's about as close as you'll get, and it was because I was being retarded for a friend. I don't draw the shit, nor do I find any real value in it. There is a very distinct like between 'ART' and "PORNAGRAPHY'. Try Dictionary.com, if you're unsure.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:35:41 AM     Post subject:  

Blah blah blah fursecution blah blah slander.



Who says it's really slander to begin with? That's right, the people who want their pasts swept under the rug. If you want to fight some real bigots and do some real good instead of wasting your time here: Go try to change a klan member's/nazi's opinion on life. Blowing hot air at us is pointless. Why don't you be the champion of the people you act to be and go after the people that are REALLY hurting others? Oh that's right, you're a furry and OMG FURSECUTION. What we do here hurts no one in the real world.

Have you donated to the tsunami relief fund Mr. Humanitarian? Given blood lately? Donated to the Good Will? Give me a break.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:36:39 AM     Post subject:  

First off all, written text that's damaging and false isn't slander; it's libel.

Secondly, the poster does make a point about the stalking stuff. Is there any evidence this actually happened? Are there police or news reports or some sort of verifyable information to support these accusations?

I do vaugley remember hearing about some sort of stalking incident back then and how a character on Tiny Toons was based on obsessive fans, but even then I'm pretty sure it was just rumor.

So, is there any proof of these accusations beyond rumor? Curious minds want to know.

-edit-

Making fun of people is NOT persecution. If it gets to the point were people are having furries arrested under false charges, defacing their property, getting them fired from their jobs, assaulting them etc then okay, you can claim persecution. However, if all we're talking about is a bunch of guys on a website saying 'this is really fucked up behavior!', that is not persecution.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:50:49 AM     Post subject:  

blah, blah, fursuits, blah, blah, slander, fake names and anonymity, blah, blah, bigots


You should really do your homework before you start claiming that Seattle is the capital of Oregon.

CYD is not a website mocking furries from the outside. Unlike the denizens of SA or PoE, most of us are furries or ex-furries, or otherwise involved in the fandom at one time, point or another. The furry fandom is in shambles. It is the subject of ridicule and filled with a bunch of jailhouse-gay fanboys with no sense of reality and a bunch of nutjobs. And in the wake of this God-forsaken grouping of social misfits, we are among the few people who know what went wrong. But unlike the former Burned Fur movement, we don't actively participate in trying to right what has been wronged because we see the futility of doing so. So we stand by the sidelines with our senses of humor and reason and we discuss. We make jokes, we point out hypocrisy, and we all have a good laugh. This is not a hate site. Believe me, no one here wishes death upon Eric Scwartz, Dennis Falk or Mark Merlino in real life (well, I can't speak for MonicaKitty on that ;) ).

Also, fake names and anonymity, indeed. I don't suppose "ReservoirDogy" is the name on your driver's license, now is it?

Let's try this another way: Hello! My name is Alberto Gomez, and I draw furry art and participate in CYD. What's your name?
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:04:45 AM     Post subject:  

continues to persecute furies


FURSECTUTION! Nevermind gays getting beaten to death or klansmen killing African Americans... those damn CYD folks are the WORSE GENOCIDAL MONSTERS EVAR!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:34:10 AM     Post subject:  

Hey guys I heard there was a party in this thread. 8)

Oh god... Oh, well, god DAMMIT. Which one of you fucks invited this furry whiner to the thread party? He's making a mess!

Oh, and yes, I bet you really are just a guy who heard a word on the radio, became COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY INTRIGUED WITH IT, then went home and used your worldly-wise curious mind and googled for every bit of information on EWS, Falk, Tiny Toons, and the Furry Fandom, then compared that information against CYD's articles, and declared them null!

Please. I sure as hell ain't buying your story or your preachy preaching, and it doesn't much look like the rest of us are, either. As much fun as you seem to be having with waging your own, private righteous holy war on CYD, you might just as well go try to chop a tree down with a tin toothpick.

This is the internet, not life. Meany-poo-poo words over the internet do not ruin peoples' lives. Typing someone's name does not ruin their life. Posting their picture on the internet doesn't ruin their life. Anyone who thinks it does is just a snivelling, over-sensitive rodder with a victim complex, and they're probably going to die within a year or two anyway when someone knocks on their door to give them cookies and they have an anxiety attack.

After all, the internet is serious business.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:07:06 PM     Post subject:  

You people are publishing these peopleís real names and pictures

And? It's not like the identities of Falk and EWS were ever secret. Falk used to sign his newsgroup posts with his real name, his furry alias, and his street address. EWS owns two or three websites with his name and contact info on 'em. Duh.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 1:56:47 PM     Post subject:  

What we do here hurts no one in the real world.


They say CYD is hurting them, thus you are hurting people in the real world.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 2:01:05 PM     Post subject:  

They say CYD is hurting them, thus you are hurting people in the real world.

There is a definate line between "OMG YUO RUINED MY PIXEL_REPUTATION" and "I'm losing my house, my wife, and having DSS take my kids"

Which, I assure you, will NEVER be the case. If you can find a furry that was so open about drawing shitty porn or whatever, that has something Real Life happen that was that bad, I'd LOVE to hear. And no, this doesn't count their parents finding it under their bed and kicking them out of the house, because if they're stupid enough to leave that shit around for osmeone to find, they diserve what they get.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 2:05:47 PM     Post subject:  

Which, I assure you, will NEVER be the case.


Really? Then why is CYD posting real names and real pictures?
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Posted: 3/5/2005 2:07:41 PM     Post subject:  

I think you may have misunderstood what I said. I meant it as:

There is a definate line between "OMG YUO RUINED MY PIXEL_REPUTATION"

and


"I'm losing my house, my wife, and having DSS take my kids"

Which, I assure you, THE LATTER, will NEVER be the case.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 3:26:31 PM     Post subject:  

They say CYD is hurting them, thus you are hurting people in the real world.


I can say the grass is pink, doesn't make it true. I can't personally remember actually getting on a plane, visiting one of these people and hurting them in real life.

Besides, Furries ruin their own damn lives with considerably more ease if left to do it themselves. I've seen four in the last month throw temper tantrums and do damage to their own reputations by acting like 5 year olds with their 'oh noe's I shan't draw any more shemale hermtaur lactating porn unless you give me lots of ego stroking and comment the way I tell you too'.

Convince me an article on something that did happen does more damage than the person's actions? All it does it make everyone more aware of it.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:29:49 PM     Post subject:  

They say CYD is hurting them, thus you are hurting people in the real world.

It's that simple, huh? If I say you're the one who stole my bike back in '92, does that make it so?

Really? Then why is CYD posting real names and real pictures?

Like I already said... this was never secret info to begin with. Bit thick, aren't you?

Convince me an article on something that did happen does more damage than the person's actions? All it does it make everyone more aware of it.

Hmmm, ReservoirDogy may have a point, however inadvertently. Just possibly maybe CYD did ruin AmyQuozlFalkStereo's life by reporting his antics... because just possibly maybe all the life he has is the make-believe one on the small furry parts of internet. If so, that would be truly sad... but of course that would not be anyone's fault but his own.

In conclusion: SELF GOAL FOR RESERVOIRDOGY!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:37:18 PM     Post subject:  

I think you may have misunderstood what I said. I meant it as:

There is a definate line between "OMG YUO RUINED MY PIXEL_REPUTATION"

and


"I'm losing my house, my wife, and having DSS take my kids"

Which, I assure you, THE LATTER, will NEVER be the case.


So, you are saying that it is ok if you hurt furries as long as they donít lose their spouse, house and kids. Sorry, hurt is hurt. CYD is hurting furries in every way it can.

They say CYD is hurting them, thus you are hurting people in the real world.


I can say the grass is pink, doesn't make it true. I can't personally remember actually getting on a plane, visiting one of these people and hurting them in real life.

Besides, Furries ruin their own damn lives with considerably more ease if left to do it themselves. I've seen four in the last month throw temper tantrums and do damage to their own reputations by acting like 5 year olds with their 'oh noe's I shan't draw any more shemale hermtaur lactating porn unless you give me lots of ego stroking and comment the way I tell you too'.

Convince me an article on something that did happen does more damage than the person's actions? All it does it make everyone more aware of it.


So, you are saying that it is ok to slander furries because they are already so messed up they cant be degraded any further. That just means you have dehumanized them. They are now just a group of in-human deviants to the CYD community, thus anything you say and do to them is fine.

They say CYD is hurting them, thus you are hurting people in the real world.

It's that simple, huh? If I say you're the one who stole my bike back in '92, does that make it so?

Really? Then why is CYD posting real names and real pictures?

Like I already said... this was never secret info to begin with. Bit thick, aren't you?

Convince me an article on something that did happen does more damage than the person's actions? All it does it make everyone more aware of it.

Hmmm, ReservoirDogy may have a point, however inadvertently. Just possibly maybe CYD did ruin AmyQuozlFalkStereo's life by reporting his antics... because just possibly maybe all the life he has is the make-believe one on the small furry parts of internet. If so, that would be truly sad... but of course that would not be anyone's fault but his own.

In conclusion: SELF GOAL FOR RESERVOIRDOGY!


There names are not secret, no. But do you really think they like having their pictures on CYD? About stuff CYD said they did 10 years ago? Donít you think they are ready to move on? Why arenít you? It is because you to have de-humanized them into ďtruly sadĒ people that have no one to blame but themselves.

Furries are real people with real feelings that the CYD community seems to get great pleasure in tormenting.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 4:54:22 PM     Post subject:  



So, you are saying that it is ok if you hurt furries as long as they donít lose their spouse, house and kids. Sorry, hurt is hurt. CYD is hurting furries in every way it can.
So, you are saying that it is ok to slander furries because they are already so messed up they cant be degraded any further. That just means you have dehumanized them. They are now just a group of in-human deviants to the CYD community, thus anything you say and do to them is fine.
There names are not secret, no. But do you really think they like having their pictures on CYD? About stuff CYD said they did 10 years ago? Donít you think they are ready to move on? Why arenít you? It is because you to have de-humanized them into ďtruly sadĒ people that have no one to blame but themselves.
Furries are real people with real feelings that the CYD community seems to get great pleasure in tormenting.



Alright, first of all, I AM a furry. SO are you saying that I'm slandering myself when I tell someone that drawing stuff like what can be found in thislovely LiveJounral community is utter crap? WELL IF IT WASN'T PEOPLE WOULDN'T POINT IT OUT. Jesus H. Christ. Honestly!

As for dehumanising them? WHAT THE CHRIST. THey dehumanise THEMSELVES by wanting to be OMG ANIMALZPPL.


And we don't JUST take pleasure in tormenting them. We also like bunnies and flowers.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:18:46 PM     Post subject:  

For someone who "heard about fur-suits on the radio coming home from work" you have a lot of nerve telling us how to act on this forum.

It's like a sheltered mama's boy going to Nicaragua and claiming without doing research first that the Sandinista movement wasn't justified.

Let me say this in words you can understand:

I am a furry making fun of other furries. Just because I am furry does not mean that I will defend every last nutjob's bizarre kinks and social ineptitude.

You want to know why we mock? You want to know why we poke fun at these people?

Go HERE HERE HERE and finally sign up for a private account HERE!!!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 5:39:29 PM     Post subject:  

Dogthing hurt me deeply, then Banrai scooted all over the would and made it infected.

I love you guys. GROUP HUG!
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Posted: 3/5/2005 6:26:04 PM     Post subject:  

There names are not secret, no. But do you really think they like having their pictures on CYD? About stuff CYD said they did 10 years ago? Donít you think they are ready to move on? Why arenít you? It is because you to have de-humanized them into ďtruly sadĒ people that have no one to blame but themselves.

Furries are real people with real feelings that the CYD community seems to get great pleasure in tormenting.


I don't know if I'd consider myself a furry or not. Although, I do have to ask myself why I woulden't if I don't. The answer to that is, because of the way the fandoms has become.

I believe in redemption, I believe that a person that has done something wrong can redeem themsevles, that they can change and become better person using lessons learned from mistakes they've made.

I don't know how old Mr Falk is or what circumstances were going on in his life when these incidents seemingly occured. I can't judge him as a person because I don't know enough (heck, I don't anything about him as a person) about him to make any kind of judgement.

I think what people here are critising is not the person but the behavior. They find the behavior embarssaing as it casts a shadow on all furries; such behvavior makes people think all furries are like this.

Now, if he trully has changed, is embarssased over the incident and trully feels apologetic over it and people constantly brining it up makes it hard for him to move on then yes, I agree we should let the past remain in the past.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 6:32:19 PM     Post subject:  

I am replying in this thread. I am enjoying a Meximelt at 10:30am. I must hate myself.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 6:47:30 PM     Post subject:  

Ah, the old furry "Libel'N'Slander" attack. Because if you say bad things about someone on the INTERNET, then you may as well have KILLED THEM WITH YOUR OWN HANDS. Where slander is defined as oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation, one clearly sees our statements would have to be both spoken and false to fall subject to slander law. Further, one would need to have a reputation that could be injured, which is certainly debatable in this situation. All of these accusations against CYD simply add weight to Falk's case of Furry Persecution Complex.

Now, consider the following. Falk has yet to show any proof that we've hurt him, no proof that has yet been related to us. At worst, and this is a hypothetical situation from hypothetical IRC...

AmyStereo: *hugs the cute mousie*
RandMouse: You're that Quozl guy, aren't you? Oh good fuck, get away from me, CYD told me what you did!

But even if this happened in the real world, it was have to be proven this hurt... and there is still no proof of this injury that's been shown to us. From what 'proof' we do have, that is, Falk's posts on various message boards in IRC chatter, we only see a furry claiming persecution status. Just like, oh, 90% of all furries. It's too easy to claim victim status. We need proof of this. Perhaps this:

...started to impact on my participation in the furry community (note I never call it a fandom, although there are fanatics), forcing my to limit my presence and actively measure my participation...

Unless we didn't cause his withdrawal from the community. Maybe people just shun him because he's a creepy fuck.

..."Pogo" being a furry strip from the '50s with a skunkette everyone fell in love with- Madame Hepzibah...

Yep. Still a creepy fuck. Now, to this idea that we're trying to 'grr, get him, because we're hurtful people' by 'going after' those who own the forums he posts to... okay. Good Christ. This hurts my head. This article couldn't've hurt Katellis. It was beneficial, if anything, due to what little publicity it generated for his strip; if anyone wanted to find the information from the article for themselves, all they would have to do is look at the front page of Katellis' web site. This is hardly character defamation and damage.

So Falk's claims that 'CYD is attempting to hurt Falk by hurting Katellis' are utterly insane. The claims are, in fact, attention whoring and (everyone at once) Furry Persecution Complex. The argument that we should forget those transgressions performed ten years ago fails because Falk is still the same old Falk we knew ten years ago. He shows no remorse.

The idea that we're here to hurt furries is similarly laughable. Hell, half of us are practicing furries. Read the forum before you post. 'And knowing is half the battle!'
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Posted: 3/5/2005 7:16:20 PM     Post subject:  

I donít care if you blast someoneís blog (although he does, he says right up front that he doesnít want any flames). What I do care about is that CYD has many articles posted that are full of disinformation using real names with real pictures. Thatís called slander (in a court of law, yes its called libel) and it doesnít matter if you think you are a furry or not.

And no, they have not dehumanized themselves, only their fantasies. These fantasies that you are free to indulge in or stay out of.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 7:23:24 PM     Post subject:  

If I say mean things to you, will you just kill yourself and be done with it?
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Posted: 3/5/2005 7:38:08 PM     Post subject:  

...using real names with real pictures.


Most of these pictures are taken by other furries at public furry conventions and posted on the Internet by themselves or other furries.

Don't believe me? Take a look at this crazy furry dude. That photo isn't something we put up, he put it there himself.

As for real names, that's nothing. Most furries use their real names in addition to their fan names. Besides, it's not like we post their home address and phone number (a lot of furries post that info willingly anyway).

...and it doesnít matter if you think you are a furry or not.


Well I don't think you are a furry either. So why don't you be a good little mundane and be quiet about things you don't know jack about?
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Posted: 3/5/2005 7:48:41 PM     Post subject:  

I don’t care if you blast someone’s blog (although he does, he says right up front that he doesn’t want any flames). What I do care about is that CYD has many articles posted that are full of disinformation using real names with real pictures. That’s called slander (in a court of law, yes its called libel) and it doesn’t matter if you think you are a furry or not.

And no, they have not dehumanized themselves, only their fantasies. These fantasies that you are free to indulge in or stay out of.

Slander is spoken defamation.
Libel is written defamation.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 7:53:28 PM     Post subject:  


Slander is spoken defamation.
Libel is written defamation.


This thread is retarded.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 7:59:43 PM     Post subject:  

CYD ruined my life. Three months after I registered I was banned from 4chan :(

Which has had quite a positive effect on my IQ I must say. Now I can string more than two words together without caps lock. This = Ruined life
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Posted: 3/5/2005 9:01:18 PM     Post subject:  


And no, they have not dehumanized themselves, only their fantasies. These fantasies that you are free to indulge in or stay out of.

Slander is spoken defamation.
Libel is written defamation.

Yeah, did you people learn nothing from Spiderman?
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Posted: 3/5/2005 9:39:59 PM     Post subject:  

slander with an S is spoken with an S

now you know the secret method to remembering which is which.
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Posted: 3/5/2005 9:40:47 PM     Post subject:  

Yeah, did you people learn nothing from Spiderman?


Well, Spiderman, Slander, and Shitty Movie all start with an 'S'
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Posted: 3/6/2005 3:02:27 AM     Post subject:  

slander with an S is spoken with an S

now you know the secret method to remembering which is which.


or:
Libel has an L, like in literature


Defamation has a D, like calling someone a dogfucker.



This guy can talk about how there was no evidence about this or that with Quozl.. but hey there is still that god awful squirrel poem he wrote.. oh yeah and the bestiality porno tape dilemma he had ... :shock:


Oh yeah , and also at one point he apperently admitted publically that he had finger-fucked his cat. :(

Just in case anyone forgot that
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Posted: 3/6/2005 3:28:28 AM     Post subject:  

Tried to forget more accuratly ;)
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Posted: 3/6/2005 3:34:45 AM     Post subject:  

What? So he wanted a little pussy.

...oh.
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Posted: 3/6/2005 4:33:07 AM     Post subject:  

And no, they have not dehumanized themselves, only their fantasies. These fantasies that you are free to indulge in or stay out of.
So we're dehumanizing someone that doesn't want to be human? HEH! Also, there's nothing posted on this site that can't be acquired by using google for a few minutes.

CYD ruined my life. Three months after I registered I was banned from 4chan :(
I post on 4chan every day and haven't been banned. (Then again, I don't post furry pictures.)
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Posted: 3/6/2005 2:42:22 PM     Post subject:  

slander with an S is spoken with an S

now you know the secret method to remembering which is which.


or:
Libel has an L, like in literature


Defamation has a D, like calling someone a dogfucker.



This guy can talk about how there was no evidence about this or that with Quozl.. but hey there is still that god awful squirrel poem he wrote.. oh yeah and the bestiality porno tape dilemma he had ... :shock:


Oh yeah , and also at one point he apperently admitted publically that he had finger-fucked his cat. :(

Just in case anyone forgot that


And your evidence for any of that? Or is this just more CYD libel?
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Posted: 3/6/2005 3:11:42 PM     Post subject:  

Why haven't you killed yourself yet like I told you to?
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Posted: 3/6/2005 3:18:27 PM     Post subject:  

slander with an S is spoken with an S

now you know the secret method to remembering which is which.


or:
Libel has an L, like in literature


Defamation has a D, like calling someone a dogfucker.



This guy can talk about how there was no evidence about this or that with Quozl.. but hey there is still that god awful squirrel poem he wrote.. oh yeah and the bestiality porno tape dilemma he had ... :shock:


Oh yeah , and also at one point he apperently admitted publically that he had finger-fucked his cat. :(

Just in case anyone forgot that


And your evidence for any of that? Or is this just more CYD libel?

How about these?
I, like many here, would _love_ to see good besty sex videos...
Any way to satisfy a zoo-curious person as myself for under $20
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How about these?
I, like many here, would _love_ to see good besty sex videos...
Any way to satisfy a zoo-curious person as myself for under $20


I dont see anything about finger-fucking a cat.
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Posted: 3/6/2005 5:17:48 PM     Post subject:  

I dont see anything about finger-fucking a cat.

Oh for the love of god.

Would you please cooperate here? I'm trying to put your theory to the test and it's not working if you don't cooperate.

Help yourself by helping me help you.
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Posted: 3/6/2005 5:19:18 PM     Post subject:  


I dont see anything about finger-fucking a cat.



You know, for someone that just heard about it on the radio... WHY do you want to see shit about someone finger fucking a cat? FOr an everyday nobody, you sure do have some weird ass fetishes. :X
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Posted: 3/6/2005 5:54:49 PM     Post subject:  

I dont see anything about finger-fucking a cat.


You, sir, are being unbelievably ANAL.

What concern is Quozl to you? You act as if the man is Jesus Christ come back and we're all going to the ninth layer of Hell for making fun of him. For someone who isn't even a furry, you seem pretty hung up on this. Did you ever witness the burned fur movement? How about MTV's Sex 2k special? Did you ever say that you were a furry and have to explain that furry to you isn't about a bunch of freaks who fuck while wearing fursuits? No? Then shut up.

How about this? Instead of attacking us, why don't you bother some other places that makes fun of people like Something Awful or Portal of Evil. Why don't you sue The Daily Show while you're at it? What about political leaders? They're made fun of all the time in newspaper editoral cartoons. Are are you going to complain to the publications?

Or perhaps you really want to see someone banging a cat. I unfortunately cannot provide that, but I can provide a link to a wonderful site which sells animal dildos.
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Posted: 3/6/2005 6:11:07 PM     Post subject:  

I unfortunately cannot provide that, but I can provide a link to a wonderful site which sells animal dildos.


Hey, baby.
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Posted: 3/6/2005 6:55:33 PM     Post subject:  

I have already stated why I am posting, many times. Itís because CYD has many articles that lambaste various people but have no verifiable facts. Then CYD uses these articles in their forms as proof that what they are posting is true, as if the articles are some kind of bible when, in fact, they are just libel. I am not just talking about Falk Ė all of the articles I have read on CYD are like this. The one on EWS is even more libel then the one on Falk.

But I guess this is all too complicated for CYD, you canít seem to follow this. Five pages of this thread and no one can prove anything in the Falk or EWS articles and no one really cares. CYD just wants me to go away so you can continue to have your own little troll party where you flame anyone that posts furry porn, on other sites, that doesnít meet you standards.
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Posted: 3/6/2005 7:07:01 PM     Post subject:  

CYD just wants me to go away so you can continue to have your own little troll party where you flame anyone that posts furry porn, on other sites, that doesnít meet you standards.


Yes. Since you are disputed in so many cases, and even have been provided links, but have no direct link, it's obviously false information. Go away now.
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