Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Contrary to the attitudes of those that would like to label CYD a furry hate group, many of us here still like our furry porn one way or another. From those like Donny and Micah that continue to create it, to those like Skunkfuckers that fap every 5 minutes to it (:)), to those like myself that look at it on occasion, but can largely take it or leave it, we here run a broad range of our exposure to furry porn. As much as we find entertainment value in the furry atrocities that lurk on the web, furry porn does have its up sides in comparison with other venues for adult cartoons/imagery. I thought it might be interesting to discuss the different views on the varied benefits furry porn offers (besides free fappability).

Naturally, any referenced images are likely to be NSFW.

So, here are some of my thoughts on it:

Drawn porn, including furry, allows for some things, such as settings and costume, which photography does not - If you want to set a photo shoot up around someone in miko garb in a Shinto shrine, or in a harem costume in a middle eastern palace (easy, Mike), you have to arrange for sets, costuming, and such. Often, such scenes look forced and fakey.. at least in American porn. Obviously, something like miko porn would be easier done in Japan.

With hentai or even furry porn, exotic settings and costumes are limited only by the artist's imagination and ability. Even poses that may be difficult for a model to hold, though alluring, are more easily rendered. Many of the poses you see models strike in nude photography are not natural and very difficult to hold. That's why not everyone with a pretty face can be a model. You have to hold an unnatural pose, yet make it look natural. Plus, you can set up shots that would prove difficult to focus in a photo. Obviously in the referenced pic, a photographer would have to choose between focusing on the face farther away, or the obvious choice if attempting a perspective shot like this.

Drawn porn allows for more candid moments - Personally, I like erotic imagery that does not appear to have been staged for the camera. Some of the sexiest photographs I've seen are often from when the camera was still shooting, but the model was not actually posing for it. It's nice to see a model in a more relaxed state, rather than contorting her body and face for the camera. Often, hentai and furry art depict a scene wherein the viewer is not really a part of it.

The viewer obviously witnesses the scene, but is removed from it enough that the moment becomes a candid glimpse into an event that may actually not be erotic, but is somehow made so because of the juxtaposition of nudity and nonsexual activities. Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres' "The Turkish Bath" is a classic example of such an image. Here, the viewer sees many naked women in a setting where only eunichs would have been allowed, yet the relaxed innocence and lack of wantonness contribute to the painting's erotic element.

So far, these are things that you can get with just about any nonphotographic porn. But, furry porn has a couple of aspects to it that come to mind.

Unlike hentai, you find a wide range of body types in furry porn - Anime body types are pretty much set. You don't normally see anyone zaftig or Frazettaeque. Occasionally, someone might have some hips to offset their paizuri-worthy bloated bustline, but you primarily see slim girls or slim girls with ridiculously voluptuous busts and butts. But, in furry art, you can see a wide range of body types for all tastes (barring Wingeresque proportions here).

Naturally, the bulk of the imagery is centered around busty vixens, and not much different from hentai. But, you can also find characters that are a little bit thicker, to ones that have a bit more cushion for the pushin'. For folks like myself that like diveristy, this can be a good thing, rather than the constant parade of blonde waifs that is usually paraded in front of the camera for your typical porn.

Furry porn breaks some of the limitations of standard illustrated porn for some artists - Once an artist gets a pretty good handle on drawing the human body, it can still be a challenge to depict the human face in a suitably attractive manner without simply looking like a Stan Lee comic. Some folks like Dave Stevens or Coop do a good job at making women in their images look cute without being either Stan Lee-style comic-bookish ugly or excessively animeishly cute. Coop is also great to cite because he is one of the few erotic comic artists out there that does heavier women without making most of them morbidly obese and getting into fetishy BBW or giantess type stuff.

But, not everyone can do that. Though the concept of an animal head on a humanoid body creates an instant aversion to many folks, it does, at least, offer the artist a way do depict what they want without drawing humans in such a ham-fisted way that the whole piece is just totally without allure. It also helps the characters defy the stereotypes we at least apply to humans. Sure, there's the fox=slut aspect, but.. let's face it.. many of the women in photographic porn are just skanky or artificial. While you get to look at their goodies, they don't exactly look like the kind of girl you'd take home to meet your parents. I don't know about anyone else, but I much prefer porn of a woman that looks like someone I'd actually want to know, rather than simply someone with huge tits and a shaved snatch.

Other thoughts?

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

Other thoughts?

There's the xenophilic element, though would that be something relegated to the fetish heap? I mention it because one might argue it's an extension of hot alien chicks a la green-skinned and forehead-ridged Star Trek hotties.

And I don't fap to it every five minutes, that's not even physically possible. To say I look at it every time I do masturbate would be closer to the truth.

EDIT: Yeah, pretty much not even playing it off as a joke this time. God I'm tired.

tomcat · Qualificator Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 15

I never had an issue with the furry porn thing back in the day. Never saw it as fapping material, though. It was more like sexy fantasy art to me. Hell, I was one of those guys buying Omaha, Critters, Albedo and Cerebus as a teen. I knew nothing of the developing fandom, I just liked the comic books and equally enjoyed adult anthro titles and stuff like Usagi Yojimbo. I liked cartoons as well, so stuff like TTA and some of the later WB stuff was part of my entertainment as well.

It was when I got internet access (late in the game, around 1996) that I got my first taste of the fandom online. Like so many here who enjoy anthro stuff I realized this was not a group of folks I wanted myself associated with in any way. Seeing MS Paint TTA porn really creeped me out. But I was fascinated by the the way much of what I enjoyed as entertainment was made into fetish items by these folks. Where had I turned right when they turned left? Following them became something between an amusing study in abnormal Psych and a little bit of "there, but for the grace of God go I."

I still look at furry porn, but I don't see it as porn per se because it isn't wank material to me, it's either sexy fantasy art or another example of abnormal Psych. The latter I appreciate as a kind of mean-spirited entertainment that I feel no guilt about enjoying as such. After all, these freaks are the people who made me feel self-concious about expressing my enjoyment of anthro art to others out of fear I'd be lumped in with them. And that does piss me off a bit.

But I'm plenty cool with the "furry porn" that could be realistically described as sexy fantasy art. Some of it is beautiful stuff and quite sexy. I see it as no worse than having a weakness for paintings on black velvet; sure it's bad taste, but it's kinda fun bad taste!

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 473

Other thoughts?

There's the xenophilic element, though would that be something relegated to the fetish heap? I mention it because one might argue it's an extension of hot alien chicks a la green-skinned and forehead-ridged Star Trek hotties.

Yeah, well, the furry stuff that appeals to me mostly appeals to my ~~creepy~~ xenophilic side. I did start a wacky article about xenophilia as it relates to furry but it was looking far too academical and ~~pretentious~~ Postvixenish for CYD so I canned it.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

The giantess pic was fucking horrifying.

Dr. Mojo · Prattler Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 180

Why are they always drawn with their hooches protruding like that? I can't say I've seen that.

AngryPuritan · Vociferator Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 399

Why are they always drawn with their hooches protruding like that? I can't say I've seen that.

I assumed that was because animal hotches protrude like that. At least, I assume so.

Stoneth · Vociferator Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 545

Why are they always drawn with their hooches protruding like that? I can't say I've seen that.

I assumed that was because animal hotches protrude like that. At least, I assume so.

Well... you could always ask Ebon Lupus for info about animal hoochies. I'm sure he'd know about such things first hand. More likely animal cocks, though.

Banrai · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 314

Why are they always drawn with their hooches protruding like that? I can't say I've seen that.

I assumed that was because animal hotches protrude like that. At least, I assume so.

Actually, they don't, not really. Having been at the ass-end (no pin untended) of the buisness I'm in, I've cleaned and de-pooped more dogs/cats/horses/goats/whatevers than I like to think about... and well.. none of them (excet for horses, cause they have weid anatomy) really do that. I think what the artists are trying to portray is the outer labia. I dunno. That's all I can figure.

Here, have a very interesting article on a clinical exam on a mare. :D Being raised on a farm, I always got to do this sort of shit.

AngryPuritan · Vociferator Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 399

I assumed that was because animal hotches protrude like that. At least, I assume so.

Actually, they don't, not really. Having been at the ass-end (no pin untended) of the buisness I'm in, I've cleaned and de-pooped more dogs/cats/horses/goats/whatevers than I like to think about... and well.. none of them (excet for horses, cause they have weid anatomy) really do that. I think what the artists are trying to portray is the outer labia. I dunno. That's all I can figure.

Here, have a very interesting article on a clinical exam on a mare. :D Being raised on a farm, I always got to do this sort of shit.

That article now ranks about goatse in the 'shit I never want to see again' list. I thought dogs have some type of bump, don't they? I would use google to find an example, but it seems icky...

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I guess the topic was kind of limited to begin with.. still... WHY MUST YOU DESTROY EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL!?
:D

Banrai · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 314

WHY MUST YOU DESTROY EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL!?
:D

Who? Me? *innocent eyes*

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

WHY MUST YOU DESTROY EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL!?
:D

Who? Me? *innocent eyes*

I was going to (predictably) say "why must you take everything beautiful and make it HAWT?"

Banrai · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 314

I was going to (predictably) say "why must you take everything beautiful and make it HAWT?"

hahaha, at least when you're at work it doesn't get dogs all excited and their wangs are all hanging out at you. :D

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

CAN'T STOP THE

PRETENTIOUSNESS

ALSO HAS IT OCCURRED TO YOU THAT A BETTER REASON FOR THEM DRAWING CUNTS LIKE THAT IS BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER SEEN ANY

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

hahaha, at least when you're at work it doesn't get dogs all excited and their wangs are all hanging out at you. :D

Having seen your photo in that other post, I'm inclined to support the dogs' opinion that you are, indeed, woodworthy. SHA-WING! You actually look a lot like my wife, though with shorter, straighter hair. I like the inverse eye-shadow thing, too.

In my last semester of undergraduate school, I had only one course, I had to take, but I needed at least 12 hours to maintain full-time student status for my car insurance student rates and all. So, I took fencing and horseback riding. (The university didn't offer Japanese or Chinese.) One horse that this one guy was assigned would sport wood whever he was getting brushed down. And, of course, we brushed them down before and after each class, so the guy got to deal with an equine Louisville Slugger twice a day.

To recap: horse + brush = erectile comedy, Banrai = BOI-OI-OI-OI-OINGGGGG!