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Michael Hirtes · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 519

What are the odds that any of these loons ever went to a ConFurence?

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7810558%5E26462,00.html

Cult told my son he was a werewolf
By Paul Weston
November 9, 2003

A QUASI-religious cult is using the Internet to recruit teenagers who are encouraged to act as werewolves, howl at the moon and eat raw meat.

Counsellors at the Cult Information Hotline have received several complaints about the group, which has more than 50 members throughout Queensland.

Counsellors and concerned parents said complaints had been made to police and government authorities about the activities of cult members in Housing Commission properties.

A Brisbane mother told last week how her 19-year-old son became involved with the group after meeting members over the Internet.

And Queensland Health social worker David Ward confirmed that he had tried to help the teenager.

"My concern is these kids believe they can turn into werewolves and start eating raw meat, which makes them sick," Mr Ward said.

"The teenager I spoke to a couple of times, who is living with this group, is just your average adolescent.

"There's a myth that says there must be something wrong with these children or they come from a broken home.

"This boy was going through normal adolescent stuff. They go through an identity crisis, where they wonder who they are, and they're vulnerable."

The teenager's mother spoke to The Sunday Mail on the condition she not be identified because she feared her family could face threats from the cult.

"My son had been studying really hard at school, he was very quiet and I suggested he join a computer group," she said.

The woman said her son stumbled on to a group that she later discovered was involved in lycanthropy, or the practice of werewolfism.

"A young man then kept ringing us, wanting my son to come out and within three weeks he was part of the group," the mother, 50, said.

"This fellow started to stalk us at night. He'd start howling like a werewolf at midnight outside our house, which frightened the other kids.

"My son left and moved into a house with this fellow and another bloke. They would dress up in costumes like wolves and take my son on a leash to South Bank."

The mother still maintains weekly telephone contact with her son, who has joined other cult members interstate. She said she had became concerned about his health after he joined the group several months ago.

"They drink blood and eat raw meat. My son lost a lot of weight," she said.

Mr Ward said the teenager's health had deteriorated at one stage but he appeared to have recovered, although he still refused to return home.

"The police can't do anything about these groups. It's not as if they're breaking the law," he said.

"This mother will have to wait until her son comes to his senses. It could take two months, or two decades, depending on the person."

The Sunday Mail (Qld)

Chris Baird · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 78

What are the odds that any of these loons ever went to a ConFurence?

Ah, you beat me to it.

I've asked one of my old friends in Queensland about this, and he says he's not noticed much sad-cunt-lycanthropist activity in the Brisbane Furry scene. However the "South Bank" mentioned in the article is a central landmark of Brisbane, and he, even as a 'jailhouse gay', is being bothered by this increasing sad-cunt-furry local population.

This bothers me a lot.

"...her son, who has joined other cult members interstate" --- likely Sydney. David Formosa is in the thick of Sydney's 'sad-cunt' scene. I'm going to have a word...

Michael Hirtes · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 519

What are the odds that any of these loons ever went to a ConFurence?

Ah, you beat me to it.

I've asked one of my old friends in Queensland about this, and he says he's not noticed much sad-cunt-lycanthropist activity in the Brisbane Furry scene. However the "South Bank" mentioned in the article is a central landmark of Brisbane, and he, even as a 'jailhouse gay', is being bothered by this increasing sad-cunt-furry local population.

This bothers me a lot.

"...her son, who has joined other cult members interstate" --- likely Sydney. David Formosa is in the thick of Sydney's 'sad-cunt' scene. I'm going to have a word...

Keep some silver bullets handy, and wear a chastity belt too (you never know how badly they might need a "yiff").

SLaitila · Coadjutor Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 126

Formosa... Isn't that the guy who has a site for his writing disability? Agrapia or something. It was on poe, as I recall.

bobby · Rasophore Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 70

Formosa... Isn't that the guy who has a site for his writing disability? Agrapia or something. It was on poe, as I recall.

Yeah, he's been around furry fandom and usenet for about 8 years.

ed: Good lord his early usenet posts are a trainwreck.

From: David Formosa (dformosa@cador.st.nepean.uws.edu.au)
Subject: disney
View: Complete Thread (7 articles)
Original Format
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Date: 1995/09/22

There has been a lot of talk in this group about disney being
subvertive and bad. It is my option that disnay is not being subvertive
engouh cartooning is an artform that lends itself so well to subvertion,
ironly. Please please disnay stop making papy, feal good, bad vs good
and make somthing creative.
The last 3 moves have all had the same plot(buty and the
best,alladin,pokahontus).

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

Keep some silver bullets handy, and wear a chastity belt too (you never know how badly they might need a "yiff").

The problem with silver bullets is that due to the density of silver being different from lead, They don’t tend to “bite” the rifling as well and are less accurate.

I believe that in the 15th? Or maybe 16th century, the Catholic Church, ran a test with rifles, and they took a holy silver bullet, with a cross carved into it and blessed by priests, and a normal lead bullet, and the silver bullet, due to being deformed by the carvings and being made of silver, was less accurate than the lead one, and so the church tried to ban rifles.

Of course, this was about as successful as their ban on crossbows, and the only real reason that rifles didn’t catch on till a later was the difficulties of making riffling (which was one of the secrets of the gunsmiths art) and the problems of black powder fouling it up a lot.

Mitch · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 290

Formosa... Isn't that the guy who has a site for his writing disability? Agrapia or something. It was on poe, as I recall.

Spotted on a.f.f.:

From: ? the Platypus {aka David Formosa}
Subject: Re: how did you find furry?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Date: 2003-10-31 04:29:03 PST

bobby04011@aol.com (bobby) writes:
> how did you find furry?
Looking for pornographic pictures of Babs Bunny from Tiny Toons.
--
Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia. See
http://dformosa.zeta.org.au/~dformosa/Spelling.html to find out more.
Free the Memes.

SLaitila · Coadjutor Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 126

Comedy old, but funny when used to the right page.

Beginning of Formosas agrapia page, brought to you by the dialectizers jive translator.

Why do ya' gots baaaad spellin'?I suffa' from some disability called agraphia. WORD! It be a learnin' diso'da' dat affects mah' ability t'spell and scribble.
De disability in mah' case be congenital (been wid me fum bird) howeva' oders may suffa' dis cuz' of brain damage o' some stroke. It is often missnatchn fo' dyslexia t'which it gots a passin' similarity however unlikes dyslexia it duz not affect mah' eyeballin'.
Why duzn't ya' use some spellin' checker?
De use uh de spellin' checkers be problematic as dey is are designed fo' sucka's who make an erro' about once some paragraph. Lop some boogie. As ah' make erro's mo'e often dan dat and often de suggesshuns is nowhere near whut ah' have in mind, it kin snatch down t'5 minutes some wo'd t'co'rect. Man!
How do ya' use da damn command line when ya' misspell everydin'?
Usin' some command line interface be easia' dan ya' might dink, de vocabulary be small and da damn wo'ds is sho't. Man! In addishun dere is de diggin' hot tools uh command line compleshun (if ah' type gre and hit 'tab' it gots'ta scribble grep fo' me.) and tcsh co'recshun.

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

Formosa... Isn't that the guy who has a site for his writing disability? Agrapia or something. It was on poe, as I recall.

It's a subject not worth getting on about. Like nailing people for dyslexia. It's not something within his control, it's biological, so let it go, please. Or we're going to get slammed for picking on the handicapped which is ammo we don't need to hand to the furverts.

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

Formosa... Isn't that the guy who has a site for his writing disability? Agrapia or something. It was on poe, as I recall.

It's a subject not worth getting on about. Like nailing people for dyslexia. It's not something within his control, it's biological, so let it go, please. Or we're going to get slammed for picking on the handicapped which is ammo we don't need to hand to the furverts.

I have no grief with people who have biological dysfunctions.
But um… “pornographic pictures of Babs Bunny” ?

It’s not quite my cup of early grey, what?

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

Formosa... Isn't that the guy who has a site for his writing disability? Agrapia or something. It was on poe, as I recall.

It's a subject not worth getting on about. Like nailing people for dyslexia. It's not something within his control, it's biological, so let it go, please. Or we're going to get slammed for picking on the handicapped which is ammo we don't need to hand to the furverts.

I have no grief with people who have biological dysfunctions.
But um… “pornographic pictures of Babs Bunny” ?

It’s not quite my cup of early grey, what?

Nor mine, I was referring to the agraphia. The TTBS stuff was amusing at times(some were comedic playing off obvious crap the TT people themselves put into the cartoon and in hindsight shouldn't have), but up for potshots(especially some of the stories). Agraphia OTH shouldn't be. I just don't want to hand them another shield to avoid the more sordid aspects of furry being dragged into the light. Getting nailed for picking on the handicapped is like an instant Godwin in society these days.

SLaitila · Coadjutor Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 126

Not the disability, but having a website dedicated to it. It's like me doing a "my active bowel"-page. No one really cares, and those who aren't able enough to find a difference between a medical condition and sheer stupidity should be ignored. Political correctness should have a limit.

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

Not the disability, but having a website dedicated to it. It's like me doing a "my active bowel"-page. No one really cares, and those who aren't able enough to find a difference between a medical condition and sheer stupidity should be ignored. Political correctness should have a limit.

Well in the case of "active bowel" I can sympathize with you completely. The latent case of lactose intolerance, probably due to my American Indian heritage, kicked in around puberty and I haven't been able to have a milkshake or ice cream sundae since. I loathe the Good Humor truck's coming in the spring...

But with regard to his agraphia, when you've been picked on for it all your life and then you come to furry, you're surrounded by the biggest pack of arrogant know-it-all dicks ever when it comes to spelling flames, fact corrections, and net copping. Not hard to see where you might get a little over protective and put up a page about it to distract and deter people from flaming your constant spelling mistakes.

Remember we're talking furry here. I've never seen so many people who were so far down on the social food chain take such glee in pointing out spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, and factual flubs as in furry. We're talking worse than any other place I've visited. When you toss in the leftists and Linux loons, making a mistake while using Windows adds whole new dimensions to their self-satisfied jabs and smug taunts.

Yet the people they are taunting are frequently getting all that tail they aren't, holding good jobs, totally functional in society and respected, etc. The Please, Please, Please Get A Life Foundation could open an entire wing dedicated to their inane superiority complexes.

Michael Hirtes · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 519

Yet the people they are taunting are frequently getting all that tail they aren't, holding good jobs, totally functional in society and respected, etc. The Please, Please, Please Get A Life Foundation could open an entire wing dedicated to their inane superiority complexes.

That's the wing with the ummmm, "special incinerator", right? :twisted:

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

Yet the people they are taunting are frequently getting all that tail they aren't, holding good jobs, totally functional in society and respected, etc. The Please, Please, Please Get A Life Foundation could open an entire wing dedicated to their inane superiority complexes.

That's the wing with the ummmm, "special incinerator", right? :twisted:

Oh sure. I'd see it as where we tie them to a chair and make them watch every plushie and fursuit they own and every copy of Genus and every spooge commission they've got being reduced to ashes in front of them as the first shock. Oh, you meant incinerating other things... ow.

SLaitila · Coadjutor Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 126

Yet the people they are taunting are frequently getting all that tail they aren't, holding good jobs, totally functional in society and respected, etc.

That's some generalization.

Of course, nobody is perfect, although the taunters' actions represent lack of empathy rather than position in society.

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

Yet the people they are taunting are frequently getting all that tail they aren't, holding good jobs, totally functional in society and respected, etc.

That's some generalization.

Of course, nobody is perfect, although the taunters' actions represent lack of empathy rather than position in society.

I've seen people who I know for a fact have decent jobs, marriages, etc., come by alt.fan.furry and get whomped pretty quickly by people who have no lives to speak of. I've seen similar things among computer and scifi geeks, but not to the same level.

The only place I know of it being worse is not a fandom but the world of IT where you will hear Linux weasels going on endlessly about "lusers" and so on, talking crap about the execs, but are in the end not paid like the execs, have not the slightest fraction of power some of those "lusers" have, and so on. People who cannot get out of their own way to even try to succeed have no business endlessly throwing stones at people who demonstrably are better off and more together.

This is sort of like furries in general throwing stones and acting superior to the general world at large of "mundanes". The cloying stench of arrogant superiority complex among furries, the assumption they know something "those normals" don't, is a stink probably on the order of Hirtes' description of Merlino's bathroom.

As for empathy, furries are notable for their glib and smug assumption of total empathic superiority. But we've seen that furries generally are the least empathic sort who take great childish delight in hurting others' feelings whenever possible or just when they randomly decide to. I've seen so damn many like that, I've stopped counting.

Michael Hirtes · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 519

As for empathy, furries are notable for their glib and smug assumption of total empathic superiority.

I know full well what you mean. As part of my video archive of all things sick & sad about furry, I even have a copy of that certain Springer episode that was never aired (yep. It's the notorious "I MARRIED A HORSE!" episode).

Watching this sub-O'Connell talking about his "wife" the horse, _constantly_ trying to open-mouth make out with his "wife" on stage (till even Jerry was grossed out and told him to knock it off), talking about how he keeps a shovel in the living room (guess why, kids?) and then on top of all this stomach-churning behavior, he gets on his high horse (pun deliberately intended) and starts acting like not only is his sickness "normal", but that it's also a SUPERIOR way of life over those puny mundanes who limit themselves only to their own species.

bobby · Rasophore Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 70

But we've seen that furries generally are the least empathic sort who take great childish delight in hurting others' feelings whenever possible or just when they randomly decide to.

*waves* Hey there. How's it going? ;)

Chris Baird · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 78

Cool. Another CYD thread spammed to shit...

Anyway, for those who haven't been reading Formosa's in-denial posts to a.f.f, there is a definate Australian Furry association with the story.

Michael Hirtes · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 519

Cool. Another CYD thread spammed to shit...

Anyway, for those who haven't been reading Formosa's in-denial posts to a.f.f, there is a definate Australian Furry association with the story.

Why am I not surprised?

SLaitila · Coadjutor Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 126

So, what's so special about australian furries? Except for a kangaroo fetishist community and the chakats.

This is sort of like furries in general throwing stones and acting superior to the general world at large of "mundanes". The cloying stench of arrogant superiority complex among furries, the assumption they know something "those normals" don't, is a stink probably on the order of Hirtes' description of Merlino's bathroom.
As for empathy, furries are notable for their glib and smug assumption of total empathic superiority. But we've seen that furries generally are the least empathic sort who take great childish delight in hurting others' feelings whenever possible or just when they randomly decide to. I've seen so damn many like that, I've stopped counting.

I agree wholeheartedly. I have had some stones thrown at me, when I said that I drink and smoke. Because "everyone who drinks is a violent and dangerous alcoholic and every smoker deliberately harms children (especially the furries' "future children.")

Chris Baird · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 78

So, what's so special about australian furries? Except for a kangaroo fetishist community and the chakats.

Well, there were a few unique distinctions to OzFurFandom in the pre-1995 era . . .

The legendary underground comics arist Gerard Ashworth.
http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cjb/Ashworth/Notes/gobbets.png
http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cjb/Ashworth/Pages/wsk_gintro.png
http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cjb/Ashworth/Singles/wsk_inquisitive_minds.png
http://hunter.apana.org.au/~cjb/Ashworth/Singles/mm29_goat.png

...and over half of the fans were female.

It was getting along great, without the need for 'American' input-- anthroporphics wasn't being fetishized, and yet a lot of comix-types (Chris McMurray, Q-Ray, etc.) were exploring the path of Ashworth of doing 'furry animal' comics that adults could read without their head caving in due to their shear inaneness. (There was still crap like "Greener Pastures" and "Captain Koala" though..)

Post-1996, the place got totally over-run by your American-styled gaydom freaks, largely due to the few jailhouse types desperately trying to invite and be recognised by as many overseas yiffers/lifestylers/whatever as possible over the Internet. I ended up dumping the OzFurry mailing list at that point.

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

...and over half of the fans were female.

I hope that wasn’t the reason that YOU were attracted to it....

Desperate sex seekers, No matter what their gender & preferences, should be discourged.

Post-1996, the place got totally over-run by your American-styled gaydom freaks,

I think you’re just sore that you didn’t get any sex from all these female fans…
I like your double standards though,
Males= NO! GO AWAY! ESP. IF THEY WANT SEX OR DRAW PRON!
Females= YES! GOOD! ESP. IF THEY WANT SEX OR DRAW PRON!
Nice.

However, I saw this on Alt.horror.werewolves:
(Jure sah is known for trying to lure kiddies from autistic groups to join his "werewolf pack" and shit like that)

>From: CyberLegend aka Jure Sah <jure.sah@guest.arnes.si>
>Newsgroups: alt.horror.werewolves
>Subject: Re: Werewolves in the news!
>Message-ID: <3FB22880.26503E7E@guest.arnes.si>
>
>Most inconveniently, my current knowledge of the situation tells
>interesting things about my relation to the situation.
>
>While in fact I had nothing to do with the whole thing besides having
>heard of it on this newsgroup and looked into it, it is true that the
>person blamed to have lured the "son" in question into the werewolf
>"cult", is the same person who calls me "Alpha". Thust technically, if
>there is evidence to support the claim that all this is in fact a cult,
>I would obviously be it's leader.
>
>Practically, of course, this means little more than the point that I am
>the one who should feel responsible for clearing up the situation and
>that's exactly what I'm doing.
>
>It would also be convenient if you worked with me, not against me.

It's all fucked up bullshit d00d!

Chris Baird · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 78

I think you’re just sore that you didn’t get any sex from all these female fans…
I like your double standards though.

Bwahahaha.

fuckwit.