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Anonymous · Posted: 6/20/2003 12:55:58 AM Post subject: OMG GOD NO!!!!!

http://www.sexyfur.com/

someone tell lotwax about this site..

p.s. i don't even have an SA account over there so i didn't even know where to post so there..

Computolio · Posted: 6/20/2003 1:29:33 AM Post subject:

hehe lotwax

I'm 100% sure it's already been submitted and will show up there someday. Try sending it to awfullinks@somethingawful.com if you want to make sure.

Also: the idea of a pay furry site is above and beyond the call of stupid. Granted, other kinds of fetish porn makers usually can get away with exorbitant prices for their smut (see Portal Of Evil for details), but honestly, anyone who actually pays for porn of any kind is a fool.

-duncan

Blair · Posted: 6/20/2003 2:39:48 AM Post subject:

Scary as it sounds, i know bernal.

from what he's told me, he's made enough from that site to
buy a new car and quit his regular job.

I'm all for it. He's good artist.

His talents would be better served working for marvel or image,
but he likes what he does.

I mean, christ, if he can make a good living selling realistic bunnygirl
pussy pics, cool. :lol:
Oh well.

Anonymous · Posted: 6/20/2003 9:38:33 PM Post subject:

I used to know Bernal a long time ago, like back in 1997, when he was just getting started with the whole 'drawing furry porn' thing. Apparently the reason he took everything pay was that people were posting it to pay sites without his permission and he was all ENOUGH O' THIS! and made his own fucking paysite.

I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a bundle off of it. He's exceptionally talented at drawing cartoon porn which, let's face it, includes a much broader audience than just furries.

Skunk Enterprises Ltd. · Posted: 6/25/2003 5:06:15 PM Post subject:

Fargul: everybody knows about Sexyfur.

Since I've got nothing against pornographic art per se, I'd say Sexyfur is a good thing (seeing really well drawn bunnygirl porn is miles better than some of the 'live' pornsites out there). I ran across Jeremy Mullens (Polar) in chat once, before having any idea who he was. He seemed like a cool guy, and anyone making money off artwork is doing good in my book. Also, creating something like PureYiff, but as a paysite was a stroke of brilliance, and a refreshing change in attitude from the retarded furry comics/porn already puy out there for free (consider most furry artists practically beg to have artwork seen, and most of it is crappy as a pile of crap).

Computolio · Posted: 6/26/2003 7:23:13 AM Post subject:

The only difference I can see between this Bernal person and say, the upper 10% of the VCL and the leading lights of furrydumb (a term I use in jest) who peddle their wares on furry convention dealer tables is that this guy knows how to use Photoshop filters (or airbrushes or both) properly. He's not that amazing an "artist"- otherwise he'd be doing other things besides furry "art" and porn.

Also: quit glorifying his chosen career path/side job/whatever. The man is professionally finished as far as doing anything BUT furry porn for the rest of his life. The slightest furry connections carry a stigma that is nearly impossible to remove in the professional world. I know because I've seen it happpen.

However, I suppose he gets some credit for not taking it too seriously and having a cynical "hehe, they'll pay for ANYTHING" approach. Hell, if I were in his shoes that's pretty much the only way I would be able to wake up every morning.

-duncan

Anonymous · Posted: 6/28/2003 10:18:14 AM Post subject:

The art's pretty damn good, actualy. The artists probably couldn't get in the door of any comics company, though, and not just because of any furry associations; I suspect they can't draw much more than body shots and limited scenery, let alone a whole comic or even just a single human. If you've looked through their respective galleries, you've no doubt seen the flaws show up in their work.

From what little I've heard of Jeremy Mullens and Loupgarou, they're both raging egomaniacs (Loupgarou being downright pathological). I don't know who Bernal is, but he's most likely the same. They managed to harness that and create an actual, successful business in an enviroment where most of their peers have all the business sense and wherewithal of a crack-laced kumquat.

I can respect that.

Also, nice porn. Notice Sexyfur doesn't try to pretend to be anything but a porn parlor? Imagine, A place devoid of the worst vestiges of the fandom; no whining, socialy persecuted teens, no roleplaying, and none of the retarded bullshit the rest of the fandom thrives on. Just the only decent thing to come out of the fandom: anthropomorphic cheesecake and pornography, well drawn and presented for what it is.

Hallelujah.

Skunk Enterprises Ltd. · Posted: 6/28/2003 10:24:30 AM Post subject:

Also, damn if I wasn't logged in :oops:

Speaking of oops, what's the deal with the Triple Post Wackiness? Dude, you're the Admin. Don't tell me this new board doesn't let you delete posts..?

Anonymous · Posted: 6/28/2003 5:30:50 PM Post subject:

well you know what, i just think that furries all fall in a catagory of pornography.. big deal..

it doesn't include disney carttons or even warner brothers.

Genghis · Posted: 6/28/2003 7:58:30 PM Post subject:

well you know what, i just think that furries all fall in a catagory of pornography.. big deal..

it doesn't include disney carttons or even warner brothers.

That's actually a fairly common definition. Cartoon animals are referred to as just that, and they become "furry" when someone gets their nob out. As a definition, it usually works, but it falls through in a few places (such as comics like Bastard Bunny, which feature plenty of adult themes but don't really qualify as "furry").
Personally I define "furry art" as "artwork that is targeted specifically at the furry fandom". It may seem circular, but it's the best definition I can come up with...

Anonymous · Posted: 6/29/2003 5:42:22 AM Post subject:

well the sad part about furry artists is that people are tyring to make animals, walk, talk and have characteristics like humans. even people at yerf.com draw animals with human characteristics.. at least there not fetish or erotic... well that is the only site that i don't hate.

The New Meat · Posted: 6/29/2003 7:37:33 AM Post subject:

Personally I define "furry art" as "artwork that is targeted specifically at the furry fandom".

That's really the only way to really define it as far as I can tell. While I'm sure a lot of sci fi writers are also sci fi fans themselves, furry is really the only fandom I can think of where the people creating the material are all "average" members of the fandom. It's almost incestuous, if you think about it too hard.

From what little I've heard of Jeremy Mullens and Loupgarou, they're both raging egomaniacs (Loupgarou being downright pathological).

Well, I don't know anything about Mullens or Bernal, but Loupgarou's a nasty piece of work. Amusing story, he had a random furry shitfit a while back in which he attacked my girlfriend for turning the fandom against him or something.

verix · Posted: 6/30/2003 2:40:23 AM Post subject:

The artists probably couldn't get in the door of any comics company, though[...>

http://store.rabbitvalley.org/item_3744_1239.html

You've completley forgotten about this little gem. Granted, he didn't actually draw any comic panels in there, but he drew the back/front cover, and did a goddamn good job of it, too. Looks even better when you have the comic in your hands.

Also: the idea of a pay furry site is above and beyond the call of stupid. Granted, other kinds of fetish porn makers usually can get away with exorbitant prices for their smut (see Portal Of Evil for details), but honestly, anyone who actually pays for porn of any kind is a fool.

-duncan

And hey, who the fuck needs to pay for this site anyway when he have idiots like Sibe and his EFnet-ripoff "warez" group (FurFXP) that releases porn like this all the time? They're getting "big" I tell you, what with their scans of Genus Male 1 and 2, and then the site-rip of SexyFur... :monocle: (I wish that was a real emoticon here... oh well)

Anonymous · Posted: 7/14/2003 3:21:21 AM Post subject:

From what little I've heard of Jeremy Mullens and Loupgarou, they're both raging egomaniacs (Loupgarou being downright pathological). I don't know who Bernal is, but he's most likely the same.

Actully Bernal is one of thouse Piro like artists who keeps whining
about how crap he is. No where near being a raging egomaniac. (Something I've found is common amounst the top n% of artists).

Anonymous · Posted: 7/15/2003 5:25:40 AM Post subject: previous

As the p.b.s. "Big comfy couch" character "Lunette the clown" would say:"HUBBA-WHAAAA?"

Big-E6 · Posted: 7/18/2003 7:56:24 PM Post subject:

hehe lotwax

I'm 100% sure it's already been submitted and will show up there someday. Try sending it to awfullinks@somethingawful.com if you want to make sure.

Also: the idea of a pay furry site is above and beyond the call of stupid. Granted, other kinds of fetish porn makers usually can get away with exorbitant prices for their smut (see Portal Of Evil for details), but honestly, anyone who actually pays for porn of any kind is a fool.

-duncan

I did sign up for that site for a month. It was what I thought It would be. I have no regrets spending that bit of change.

I can't believe how lucrative making that site was for him though.

Jerry Collins · Posted: 7/24/2003 3:29:57 PM Post subject: previous

I allways got my best porn from the 50%off bin,or dumpster dived for 'em for free...so I'm a perv...but a THRIFTY PERV!....hmmm,sounds like an underground catalogue/news letter.."And in our Sept. issue of "Thrifty perv",we'll uncover recycling military surplus into fetish gear,discount cat suits in your mailing area,and getting the most of your orthipedic hip boots!"..plus...our fasinating and contriversial article "Pony girl or glue factory slut?".....ohh,sorry folks,I went over the edge again...gawd ,I'm an IDIOT! peace to you all.(Jer)

Mitch · Posted: 7/24/2003 4:41:19 PM Post subject: Re: previous

...our fasinating and contriversial article "Pony girl or glue factory slut?"

ROTFL!!

Jerry Collins · Posted: 7/24/2003 5:05:38 PM Post subject: i'm a bit dim

rotfl?please translate(me not so smart)uhhhh,it's a good thing..uh..right?

mouse · Posted: 7/27/2003 8:32:31 AM Post subject: sexyfur.com

i was fucking around last night sending that site (sexyfur) around to some people trying to freak them out whatever, but then realized i had never looked myself (seen the banner links around before)

i think ive given you all some impression of where i stand on most of this..but if anything was ever gonna throw me over the edge into furry obsession and weirdness it would be art like this

i would totally pay the $10 a month at least for a month or 2

what are you guys talking about the guy aint good at art?? who gives a shit what he uses, the final product imo looks pretty damn good

these characters look great

i am gonna be completely honest here (whether you believe me or not)and say that im really not that into porn, would never pay for a porn site...except this one, and i very well may who knows (not for a while though) i really prefer story than porn in my comics, altho im not afraid of adult material at all. this site looks liek a pretty cool establishment. i dont really see how someone could come away with that bad an impression of this (i took the tour or whatever youd call it) weird sure, but it just doesnt seem that fucked up to me. AND a few of the people i sent it to said they thought it was kinda of funny and cool, they thought the art was really good.

which i think is slowly proving my point that SA and such sites have some sort of predispostion - completely unobjective and completely incapable of ever taking things on a case by case basis
...all they wanna do is shit talk ? more power to em

the only thing i really wouldnt be interested in here is the anime
i dont even know what the hell hentai is other than some sort of anime porn. it looks like this site might be a mixed bag of anime and furry art , which would kind of piss me off since im burned out on the anime art style - severely

anyway the only real problem as far as im concerned is that i really prefer to have somethign to show for my money , a comic book, anything
so i probably wouldnt be able to stop myself from pulling the images out of my cache and saving (i wouldnt pirate or distribute someones work on them) because seriously i would lose interest in this site and let my membership lapse. i dont think i could go there for months on end , even with new stuff added all the time

Anonymous · Posted: 7/27/2003 11:17:26 AM Post subject:

nyooooooooooooooo he draws very well; wauw...
I'm Starting my comic's soon for publishing, wauw if I where the boss of marvel, I wouls hire him defnititlly for sure.
Humans are hard to draw, some have the gift for it, some don't...

I never been to art class, so that's one of those reason's why i don't draw humans, humans are wierd :cry: to draw... but ahem, I got a friend (a famous and great furry artist : Rina cat) wich is a human, but with cat ears..;
this is what came out acctuelly http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2271847

Looks at the site... I like his style of art. Not that's you know, ...
Wish I could draw like that :D

Jerry Collins · Posted: 7/27/2003 3:04:21 PM Post subject:

To Angelpaws:late last night I tried to e.mail you.but the "cyber-gremlins"were hard at work and it never went through(phooey!)If you(or the gang..except DA&Newt) want to touch base with me 1 on1,ask Mitch(I give you permission Mitch,it's cool) Re drawing humans:there is a rather dated ,but still very useful book by a gent named Jack Hamm"Drawing the human head & figure" it has pulled my artistic ashes out of the fire more than once!An excellent teaching book(he also did a book on cartooning as well)and there is a VERY good book by Will Eisner "Sequential art"(layouts,how to structure a strip,mood settings,a bunch of good stuff)check them out when you can!Highly recommended!!!peace to all here(Jerry)

Anonymous · Posted: 7/27/2003 4:50:38 PM Post subject:

Yay! Can I mr. Mitch pleasssssssssse!?

Got me many teaching books, Specially bout the way of the body and the way of face. Manga seems to be getting less harder lately...
But Real life human art is soooooo hard!!!

I will look for this book though I have writen the titel and the autor on my most important note book, *Searches*

Mitch · Posted: 7/27/2003 4:58:56 PM Post subject:

You've reminded me of a book by Preston Blair called "How To Animate", which is all about how to draw classic-style 'toon characters, but does include more realistic characters. There's an online version here, which might be worth a look. Or not, if you're not into that "Golden Age" style character thing.

Oh, and like Jerry says - just email me for his address. It's mitch@crushyiffdestroy.com

Anonymous · Posted: 7/27/2003 6:54:31 PM Post subject:

okieddddddddddddokie
i'll do it, if my msn wants to work *kicks msn*

Skunk Enterprises Ltd. · Posted: 7/28/2003 12:18:22 AM Post subject:

Well, I'd agree about not paying for porn... if you know the right sites, apps, and methods, you can all the free porn you want. In fact, I could post a couple thousand pornsite URLs + passwords for everyone, though I'd prolly get bopped by Computolio if I did that (unless he says he doesn't care). Otherwise I could just Email the text file...

Believe it or not, Sexyfur really is pretty classy compared to most of those sites. I guess since it's based around such a focused fetish group, it still has an image to live up too. Since I know someone's going to misunderstand me, I'll put it another way: anyone can make a trashy little site with pictures of people fucking; but if you look past the fur fetish going on here, you'll see a clean site with without flashing banners, popups, blind links, and assorted sucker lures.

OMFG GGOD NOOO !!!!!!!1!1!1!!!1! Pt. 2: http://www.vixine.com/
You know, it could be made into a monster if we all worked together as a team...

mouse · Posted: 7/28/2003 4:00:45 AM Post subject:

Well, I'd agree about not paying for porn... if you know the right sites, apps, and methods, you can all the free porn you want. In fact, I could post a couple thousand pornsite URLs + passwords for everyone, though I'd prolly get bopped by Computolio if I did that (unless he says he doesn't care). Otherwise I could just Email the text file...

if i was intersted in it id just pay for it

besides ...think of our (U.S.) economy

(not that i dont mind gettin stuff for free...im trying to get adobe 6+ now ...cuz i aint paying friggen $600 for it...someday maybe, but not now)

Believe it or not, Sexyfur really is pretty classy compared to most of those sites. I guess since it's based around such a focused fetish group, it still has an image to live up too. Since I know someone's going to misunderstand me, I'll put it another way: anyone can make a trashy little site with pictures of people fucking; but if you look past the fur fetish going on here, you'll see a clean site with without flashing banners, popups, blind links, and assorted sucker lures

ah yes, classy was the word i was trying to think of last night when i said it seemed to be a "cool establishment"

i really just like the front page most of all , that sunset scene with that rabbit girl, thats just a really beautiful image, i dont how else to say it

fur fetish? yea i imagine for some, and maybe thats even the intent - im pretty sure the images in the site are more .. explicit
fetish to me seems to imply some sort of compulsion or obsession, i think most of the time , it seems to suggest something unhealthy (which in many cases im sure it is, but this is one of things i really take on a case by case/ individual basis)
but from what ive seen of the front page and censored images on the "tour"
(and i knwo this is going to sound like a line of crap, but ill say it anyway)
i really honestly just find this stuff aestetically pleasing

heres somethign to think about , for the fanboy thats these images is thier ideal woman, or that its minerva mink or whatever....the chances of that ever happening are absolutely ZERO

but guess what, the chances of the average american male's dream of ever getting with pamela lee, locklear, or any other super model is so small, it might as well be the absolute zero refered to above

i just dont see that much of a difference

i suppose it just depends on whether your "creepy" about it or not

Mitch · Posted: 7/28/2003 12:21:18 PM Post subject:

OMFG GGOD NOOO !!!!!!!1!1!1!!!1! Pt. 2: http://www.vixine.com/
You know, it could be made into a monster if we all worked together as a team...

I honestly read that link as http://www.visine.com. Kind of ironic, really.

Anonymous · Posted: 7/29/2003 5:05:51 AM Post subject: Just so you know...

You can download pretty much everything that's ever been on Sexyfur from WinMX for free.

I mean... not that I've *ahem* done such a thing *cough*...

Skunk Enterprises Ltd. · Posted: 7/30/2003 8:28:26 AM Post subject:

OMFG GGOD NOOO !!!!!!!1!1!1!!!1! Pt. 2: http://www.vixine.com/
You know, it could be made into a monster if we all worked together as a team...

I honestly read that link as http://www.visine.com. Kind of ironic, really.

I honestly read your reply as http://www.vaseline.com/

That's what I get for browsing through the posts in the Anthrocon 2003 thread on PoE, and the visceral photographic horror within.