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Beauty of Nature
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Posted: 8/25/2005 9:04:15 PM     Post subject: Dear 2...  

Something totally unimportant, but maybe as interesting as pixelated dog anus.


...and especially those retards at Crush Yiff Destroy are all furs who are to lame to even be accepted by the fur fandom...

Quote taken from here:
http://www.ranting-gryphon.com/Dear%202/Dear2-003.mp3

Download. Listen 4 minutes from the beginning to hear the context.
The quote is at about 5 minutes.

Maybe some are outsiders because they do not want to go down with the rest... think about that, mister 2.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 9:08:47 PM     Post subject:  

Once upon a time I used to think 2 was funny. Yeah, I know, I'm retarded.

Eventually after a while I realized, "Hey, all he does is scream a lot about shit I don't really care about and have shitty music play in the background!" and I promptly started ignoring him.

Amazing to think that after a few years, he simply has not gotten any better at being funny or interesting.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 9:31:34 PM     Post subject:  

I like how blissfully ignorant he is of all the CYD members that still attend conventions and transparently blend in with the rest of the fandom. Even if they browsed the forums here, I doubt any of my furry associates would have any idea it's me, since I don't use Monkey King and my furry handle in the same context. Beware furries! The enemy is among you!
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Posted: 8/25/2005 9:38:52 PM     Post subject:  

19 out of the 79 people who have me friended on LJ are furries. Just a little under a quarter but I'm on CYD so I must hate them all. Two are zoophiles and one is a babyfur.

Clearly I am a perfect example of somebody who hates the furry fandom and everybody in it.

I also used to listen to 2-Sense every goddamn week. Woe to me.

Edit: 19. I wasn't sure if Stoneth considered himself a furry or not
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Stoneth
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Posted: 8/25/2005 9:58:02 PM     Post subject:  

2 is quite the presumptuous one. I have many friends that I know IRL who are furries and I don't deny that fact that I am a furry but at least I don't yell and scream in a painfully cut manner to bad techno music and attempt to call it comedy. I bet he jerks to the art that some notable CYD pornsters produce.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 9:59:01 PM     Post subject: Re: Dear 2...  


...and especially those retards at Crush Yiff Destroy are all furs who are to lame to even be accepted by the fur fandom...



.......... So?
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Posted: 8/25/2005 10:12:02 PM     Post subject: Re: Dear 2...  


...and especially those retards at Crush Yiff Destroy are all furs who are to lame to even be accepted by the fur fandom...



.......... So?


Did he really say "What the yiff" :? ? Is that supposed to be furry humor?

And if furrydumb will accept zoophile pedo middleaged men who like to wear diapers and shit themselves, i think it's safe to say that anybody here, if they were so inclined could be accepted cuz remember? No man is too pathetic/perverted to be welcomed into furrydumb. All you would have to do to be accepted is leave out the fact that you post at CYD, but then again, who wants to be affiliated with such a bunch of sick bastards? Not me.

That was the first time i've heard this guys voice, i'd heard of him but "furry humor" for some reason doesn't interest me that much. I go to school in SF so i meat a lot of "different" people, and The Ranting Griphon really sounds like a pre op transexual, it might just be the aid of the music in the background but i'm sure if i saw him he would defenitely have tits. Either from being a dick girl or just your stereotypical fatass furry.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 10:12:54 PM     Post subject: Re: Dear 2...  


...and especially those retards at Crush Yiff Destroy are all furs who are to lame to even be accepted by the fur fandom...

Too LAME?

I'd rather not be accepted by the furry fandom of my OWN accord, THANKYOUVERYMUCH.
Besides, if that's what being lame is, then I'm the epitome of "Lame."
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Posted: 8/25/2005 10:18:20 PM     Post subject: Re: Dear 2...  


...and especially those retards at Crush Yiff Destroy are all furs who are to lame to even be accepted by the fur fandom...

Too LAME?

I'd rather not be accepted by the furry fandom of my OWN accord, THANKYOUVERYMUCH.
Besides, if that's what being lame is, then I'm the epitome of "Lame."



Word.



Also, if he (it?) doesn't care about us, and the rest of furry doesn't give a fuck about us, why do they mention us? Why does he call us retards? I don't really care about the indian guy that lives next door to me so i don't call him a retard and make webradio casts mentioning him, this 2 guy is rediculous. The only reason why i like the fact that people know us/hate us is so we can have the occasional troll stop by so we can flay them alive.
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Posted: 8/25/2005 11:07:15 PM     Post subject:  

Yeah, I wonder what CYD has ever done to him.
Once again CYD is considered a bunch of backstabbers for simply documenting and reviewing the going-ons of the furries.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 12:14:39 AM     Post subject:  

2 is under the sick delusion that we *WANT* to be accepted by the perverts, losers and whiners in the furry fandom. I haven't identified myself with the fandom in nearly a decade and I've been very outspoken that, to paraphrase Foamy from another thread, these people need to go out and fucking kill themselves.

It's the people who want to be accepted by these maladjusted morons who have problems, not me.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 1:27:55 AM     Post subject:  

This guy's voice is quite grating.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 1:34:55 AM     Post subject:  

Wait... So this guy is saying that the SA Goons only make fun of furries, because they wanted to be furries, and the furries wouldn't let them be furries?

I thought that the furry fandom was supposed to be so damn accepting? And how does he know that all the Goons jerk off to furry porn? How does that even make somebody a furry?
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Posted: 8/26/2005 1:51:50 AM     Post subject:  

You know, I just realized something. 2 must have the same inferior logic chip in that asshatted nogin as Cigarskunk. I pointed out the hypocrisy in Cigarskunk lusting after an underage skunk cartoon character and he responded by accusing me of being a closet pedophile. 2's response to goons and CYDer's making fun of furries is that they must be closet furries themselves.

Idiocy doesn't come in much variety, does it? :lol:
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Posted: 8/26/2005 2:05:01 AM     Post subject:  

I've seen 2 do his live act at last year's FurtherConfuision, Watched him for about 5 minutews befiore I left, the program said he was funny. Well I failed to laugh, and found his act to be boring, I waled out after 5 minutes and found something else better to do my time which was hanging around the creators lounge doing sketches, and looking though black books of furry art.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 2:15:56 AM     Post subject:  

I thought that the furry fandom was supposed to be so damn accepting? And how does he know that all the Goons jerk off to furry porn? How does that even make somebody a furry?


Right now there's this big popular thread in GBS of anonymous confessions that people submit and the guy posts.

There must be at least 30 furries on SA who keep their mouths shut.
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Stoneth
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Posted: 8/26/2005 2:22:24 AM     Post subject:  

Furry goons are a dime a dozen. More power to them if they can make the most out of their ten bucks before getting banned.

It's not that iomportant.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 3:05:13 AM     Post subject:  

Eh, not all of them get banned. Only the ones who are dumb/assholes.

For instance, I believe Verix is still an SA member.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 3:55:39 AM     Post subject:  

Furry goons are a dime a dozen. More power to them if they can make the most out of their ten bucks before getting banned.

It's not that iomportant.


Wow, after viewing that i've never felt so much like the complete polar opposite of a nerd in my life. When i get banned from here, I promise i won't cry :cry:

Also I would like to see that "anonymous confessions thread but i don't know what GBS is and i'm not getting anything on google. Could you provide a link? I was seriously under the impression that furries on SA were common knowledge but they don't bring it to the forums and therefore don't get banned.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 4:08:56 AM     Post subject:  

It's been goldmined. Hope you got :10bux:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1650173&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

I think you can view a few pages of it as a guest.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 4:43:23 AM     Post subject:  

How can somebody be accused of being a closet furry, if nobody's even sure what an open furry is?
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Posted: 8/26/2005 6:50:15 AM     Post subject:  

I like how 2 says at the end that he doesn't care about the whole drama, even though he devoted, like, a minute, two minutes, to ranting about it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: the guy calls himself "2 the Ranting Gryphon"... Hear that? He's a gryphon! Like one of those make-believe creatures in Harry Potter books! Hey gryphon, why don't you tell me your opinions on US politics before your game of Quiditch starts! WOOOO I'M A GRYPHON!
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Posted: 8/26/2005 4:15:11 PM     Post subject:  

Fun fact: The vast majority of 2 Rants are repetitive filler. In his abortion rant, he used the phrase "you know" just shy of 2 dozen times.

I used to think he was funny, and right, but then my balls dropped. It's hard to take someone seriously when they proudly announce they are a moderate on their show because an internet quiz deemed them so.

I may have to do a full article on '2' someday...

Basically, all 2 grypon wants to be is a comedian, but all he succeeds in doing is being loud and opinionated, not funny. He wants to be a political debater, but the only analogies he can draw are all related to butt sex, and his only 'attacks' are superficial jokes he takes seriously and maybe some internet rumor. He wants to be the atypical or 'right' furry/gay guy, but he falls into almost every bad stereotype of the two. He wants to be a celebrity, but only the few bigwig apologists and greenest fanboys give him the attention he craves.

Oh, and Stoneth, you'll be pleased to know that the 'faulty logic chip' might be pedophilic by nature. On one '2 Sense' episode, he was going over dumb laws, and mentioned one about not being allowed to sit ontop a refrigerator. He went into rant mode, started spewing shit like "I should be allowed to throw a birthday party on my goddamn refrigerator!" and caught himself just a second too late after "I can fuck a kid on a refrigerator if I want to!". Even for a freudian slip, that's incriminating.

Of course, it could just be that logic assholes apply when they know they're wrong. "The Earth is round, not flat." "Well, we both are wrong, since we have such biased opinions!" - "You're really racist." "Everyone is racist! Do you date black chicks huh?" - "Furry porn is weird, HUR HUR." "You goons are just closet furries anyway!!!!"

Moral: 2 sucks.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 5:19:58 PM     Post subject:  

Really? I'm sure Micah still has her share of fans/stalkers and she's a beloved member of our little world. I don't see the hoards trying to set her aflame.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 6:29:37 PM     Post subject:  

"Hordes", not "hoards". I know they're homophones, but that mistake drives me nuts.

Much as they might hate Micah for her affiliation with CYD, the furries would hate even more to be deprived of their wank material. As long as she's churning out the porn, she'll still be everyone's friend.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 8:53:39 PM     Post subject:  


Oh, and Stoneth, you'll be pleased to know that the 'faulty logic chip' might be pedophilic by nature. On one '2 Sense' episode, he was going over dumb laws, and mentioned one about not being allowed to sit ontop a refrigerator. He went into rant mode, started spewing shit like "I should be allowed to throw a birthday party on my goddamn refrigerator!" and caught himself just a second too late after "I can fuck a kid on a refrigerator if I want to!". Even for a freudian slip, that's incriminating.

Something occured to me a little while after reading this. That Freudian slip isn't quite as disturbing as the fact that he left it in there. It's not like these rants are performed live; in fact he edits the hell out of them. He could have fixed that with no trouble at all. Instead, 2 thought it would be okay to leave in an accidental comment about fucking kids. That's kinda scary.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 8:55:36 PM     Post subject:  

Something occured to me a little while after reading this. That Freudian slip isn't quite as disturbing as the fact that he left it in there. It's not like these rants are performed live; in fact he edits the hell out of them. He could have fixed that with no trouble at all. Instead, 2 thought it would be okay to leave in an accidental comment about fucking kids. That's kinda scary.


To be fair, it was '2 Sense', his 2 hour long live intraweb show, which is not to be confused with his uber-edited techno track rants.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 9:02:43 PM     Post subject:  


Oh, and Stoneth, you'll be pleased to know that the 'faulty logic chip' might be pedophilic by nature. On one '2 Sense' episode, he was going over dumb laws, and mentioned one about not being allowed to sit ontop a refrigerator. He went into rant mode, started spewing shit like "I should be allowed to throw a birthday party on my goddamn refrigerator!" and caught himself just a second too late after "I can fuck a kid on a refrigerator if I want to!". Even for a freudian slip, that's incriminating.

Something occured to me a little while after reading this. That Freudian slip isn't quite as disturbing as the fact that he left it in there. It's not like these rants are performed live; in fact he edits the hell out of them. He could have fixed that with no trouble at all. Instead, 2 thought it would be okay to leave in an accidental comment about fucking kids. That's kinda scary.


He was probably hoping some lonely niave young kid was listening, and would send him an email. I bet furries glossed over that one and pretended it didn't happen no doubt. So once again another prime example of why insults from hardcore furries cannot possibly offend. LOOK WHAT YOUR INTO.
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Posted: 8/26/2005 9:29:47 PM     Post subject:  

He also said that he craves to eat the flesh of babies and that he want to see jesus beating babies to death with PVC pipes.
I would not take everything he says once that serious. If he said something repeatedly, then yes.
What he exclamated repeatedly was that he hates breast feeding in public, mexicans and people that stay or visit in america without speaking english. That and that the germans invented tanks, while everyone knows it was the british.
Also some other stuff that I forgot.
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Posted: 8/27/2005 7:28:49 AM     Post subject:  

You know something, I don't think 2 gets who CYD is.

We are furs, alot of us, and we pick on the crazy 1% because they're SUCH EASY TARGETS. We leave the normal folk alone.

You see us parading our fetishes around? No. You see us drawing herm-taur-vixens with s**tting ni**les and 7 or 8 pha**us? No.

I'm trying to keep this work safe, but this rant I'm building... meh... It's 2. It's just a drahma generator. >_<
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Posted: 8/27/2005 3:29:08 PM     Post subject:  

You know something, I don't think 2 gets who CYD is.

It's not just 2. Many furries have 2's mentality.
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Posted: 8/27/2005 5:01:46 PM     Post subject:  

He also said that he craves to eat the flesh of babies and that he want to see jesus beating babies to death with PVC pipes.


Oh boy. Could that mean that not only is he a furry loser, he's one of those childfree hardcore losers as well ???
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Posted: 8/27/2005 5:58:36 PM     Post subject:  

I still find the idea that the Goons are anti-furries because the furries wouldn't let them join.

I mean, who WON'T the furries let join? That is what I want to know. They let people who draw gigantic idealised-hermaphroditic shitting-dick-nippled skunktaurs raping each other while eating babies in.

Who wouldn't they let in?
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Posted: 8/27/2005 11:50:01 PM     Post subject:  

I still find the idea that the Goons are anti-furries because the furries wouldn't let them join.

I mean, who WON'T the furries let join? That is what I want to know. They let people who draw gigantic idealised-hermaphroditic shitting-dick-nippled skunktaurs raping each other while eating babies in.

Who wouldn't they let in?


Join? Furries have an application form and membership cards now? You get bonus miles if you have a fox character? They won't let Lowtax play any reindeer games? There's bouncers now, to make sure you only draw bad art, and that the hermaphrodites don't look too realistic?

Why am I trying to apply logic?
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Posted: 8/28/2005 6:59:09 AM     Post subject:  

They don't let you in if you question any aspect of their behavior or are "meen" to any of their brethern, even if they're into babyfur shit eating vore porn. Which does rather exclude the SA crowd and the people who frequent this forum.
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Posted: 8/28/2005 9:45:12 AM     Post subject:  

Don't forget, with joining the furry fandom you get the secret furry handshake (HUGGLES!) and decoder ring (some lameass necklace with a paw/wolf/lion dangling on it or even worse *shudder* a "Zeta").
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Posted: 8/28/2005 12:37:59 PM     Post subject:  

http://dfs.furtopia.org/

The site is inactive until after Anthrocon but the whole DFS ID card is knida like a membership thing.

It's also kinda like a retarded thing.
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Posted: 9/1/2005 11:23:50 AM     Post subject:  

This whole thing reminds me, somehow, of how Xydexx (I think it was him anyway) was absolutely convinced that my fiance TNM went to this past Further Confusion with an evil SA goon sidekick and the intent of bringing the entire con down, or making up an anti-furry expose, or something of the sort.

I guess Xydexx never figured out that Meat's mysterious sidekick was...me.

*inane giggle*
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Posted: 9/1/2005 6:46:23 PM     Post subject:  

This whole thing reminds me, somehow, of how Xydexx (I think it was him anyway) was absolutely convinced that my fiance TNM went to this past Further Confusion with an evil SA goon sidekick and the intent of bringing the entire con down, or making up an anti-furry expose, or something of the sort.


New Meat can't even work up the energy to go to class half the time, much less mastermind a far-reaching anti-furry conspiracy...AM I RITE??
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Posted: 9/1/2005 7:39:29 PM     Post subject:  

It's not like an anti-furry expose would be hard to create. Christ knows there's enough evidence of mind-raping insanity around...
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Posted: 9/1/2005 8:19:16 PM     Post subject:  

AM I RITE??


No, but this is...
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Posted: 9/1/2005 9:55:03 PM     Post subject:  

This whole thing reminds me, somehow, of how Xydexx (I think it was him anyway) was absolutely convinced that my fiance TNM went to this past Further Confusion with an evil SA goon sidekick and the intent of bringing the entire con down, or making up an anti-furry expose, or something of the sort.


New Meat can't even work up the energy to go to class half the time, much less mastermind a far-reaching anti-furry conspiracy...AM I RITE??


Not to mention...it was sorta me dragging him along...XD And then he just spent the whole con nicking free food!
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Posted: 9/1/2005 10:16:02 PM     Post subject:  

I really should write a full article on this, but yes, the logic that "if you ever even once jerked it to furry porn you are a furry" is true, then would not a whole fuckload of furries be closet goons for finding some ED entry funny, or for using goonisms like "PLZKTHNX"?

The ranting gryphon has a recurring and nasty habit of saying "let's look at this with more perspective" and never once understanding how mindlessly one sided his thought process is. For example, he can see how pride rallies really don't help gay rights, yet lo and behold, when question of his views of polygamy, he makes statements more damaging that any speedo-clad pride parader.

Now, MOST of his rants are geared towards his furry audience, in fact, despite what furries may say, I do not know of him performing for anyone else even in SciFi circles. Furries tend to just pick up angry jingoisms and mind-numbing points as they trudge through life ands assume everyone wants to know their opinion. Hence, if you are -ANGRY- or -LOUD-, they'll listen even if it contradicts another position of theirs. Hell, compare the hunting and guns rants; the only conclusion you can draw is that he wants everyone to own guns and to only shoot other people with them. He wants tolerance and to kill foreigners for not speaking English and women for daring to own breasts.

The guy is completely full of bullshit. In the 2004 election, he was the only 'flip-flopper' I knew of. He despised Bush, but started off telling his listeners not to vote at all. "Silence can speak as well" being his reasoning, ignoring that there do exist third parties and that not voting is apathy, not rebellion. No wonder Rock the Vote has so much of an uphill battle. Then, later, after Kerry lost, 2's fucking heart was broken because his brilliant no-vote strategy didn't count on, well, an incumbent existing.

Now, he's acting like an extreme partisan for the dems, even claiming Bush cheated to win. Isn't that the type of bullshit logic he's supposedly against?

Regardless, many comedians do contradict themselves to make jokes. Yet, 2 isn't funny, unlike most of them, and most comedians don't support their joke-stance. Chris Rock hasn't lobbied for a bullet to actually cost $5,000 and George Carlin hasn't actually tried to get Boeing to make an entire airplane out of the material they use to make the indestructible black boxes.

How can one tell if an opinion is a joke or an actual thorn in the side of the presenter, and thusly if hypocrisy in the jokes is the norm or just idiocy? Well, a good clue is if the subjects related directly back to the sexlife of the comedian. When '2' goes off on how much some people such at typefucking his character, he sure as hell means it.

Simply put, 2 has diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 12:38:13 AM     Post subject:  

I refuse to believe anyone who thinks "just don't vote" is a good way to get your message out is an intelligent human being.

I mean, DUH.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 3:44:14 AM     Post subject:  

Silence can speak as well? ONLY IF YOUR A FUCKING MIME. What an idiot. I wish he'd use that advice and shut the fuck up, then maybe people would learn something. Like how much better not listening to 2 is then acctually listening to him.

I wonder if he ever listens to tapes of his own shows? It's like when a fat guy goes to one of those fancy dept stores with the 5 angle mirrors, and see's there ass from a spectator view the first time and goes "OMG it's like a shelf!". "OMG, i'm an annoying retard that covers up my lack of insight by screaming FUCK and SUCK MY COOOOOOOOOCK and WHAT THE YIFF? repeatedly".



yes, the logic that "if you ever even once jerked it to furry porn you are a furry" is true, then would not a whole fuckload of furries be closet goons for finding some ED entry funny, or for using goonisms like "PLZKTHNX"?


What if you look at furry porn, but can only jerk it to human porn, or you know, have sex with your girlfriend?
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Posted: 9/2/2005 3:48:40 AM     Post subject:  

Silence can speak as well? ONLY IF YOUR A FUCKING MIME. What an idiot. I wish he'd use that advice and shut the fuck up, then maybe people would learn something. Like how much better not listening to 2 is then acctually listening to him.

I wonder if he ever listens to tapes of his own shows? It's like when a fat guy goes to one of those fancy dept stores with the 5 angle mirrors, and see's there ass from a spectator view the first time and goes "OMG it's like a shelf!". "OMG, i'm an annoying retard that covers up my lack of insight by screaming FUCK and SUCK MY COOOOOOOOOCK and WHAT THE YIFF? repeatedly".

OHHHHHHHH WAIT A MINUTE.
"COOOOOOOOOOOOCK" is not a one syllable word.
It's more like
"CAW AW AW AWWWWWWWWWW Kuh"
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Posted: 9/2/2005 8:20:20 AM     Post subject:  

I feel compelled to point out that 2 should never be confused with Destroy 2, as Destroy 2 uses the word "fuck" 500 times in a row and is all the funnier because of it.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 8:34:26 AM     Post subject:  


OHHHHHHHH WAIT A MINUTE.
"COOOOOOOOOOOOCK" is not a one syllable word.
It's more like
"CAW AW AW AWWWWWWWWWW Kuh"


The way you say it sounds really, really dirty.

also, Destroy 2 fills me with hope for humanity in general.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 10:20:30 AM     Post subject:  

My problem, and this relates to 90% of internet comedians these day, is that he tries to come off as extreme and edgy and it sounds fake. About 90% of net comedians are trying to do some form of the "Angry Guy" archetype. They see an "Angry Guy" website, such as Maddox, and think "HAY! ANGRY=FUNNAY am i fuckin rite guys! TO THE EXTREEMEE".

The sad thing is there are so many different styles of comedy other than "Angry Guy", and most work even better than "Angry Guy". You look at a guy like Jon Stewart, who can put forth insightful and funny perspectives on politics, and he does so without a hint of anger. Watch the clip where Stewart interviews (and owns) Bernard Goldberg -- he's funny and makes some damn good points without getting even slightly pissed-off. I doubt 2 could pull off something like that.

The guy needs to learn how to be naturally funny, instead of trying to be this faux-extreme and faux-edgy guy that's like nearly every other comedian on the internet.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 10:32:14 AM     Post subject:  

I tried to listen to a 2 rant after reading this. I picked "gay marriage". The first several minutes were "Wanna talk about gay marriage? Let's talk about gay marriage" in different forms and occasionally with stuttering. I was hoping it would get better. It didn't. I got too bored to listen to the whole thing. He's unfunny and the music makes it unbearable. The sad thing is, one of my offline friends would love this. He's a hardcore furry, worships techno, is very angry, and hates babies. I hope he never sees it.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 12:13:59 PM     Post subject:  

My problem, and this relates to 90% of internet comedians these day, is that he tries to come off as extreme and edgy and it sounds fake. About 90% of net comedians are trying to do some form of the "Angry Guy" archetype. They see an "Angry Guy" website, such as Maddox, and think "HAY! ANGRY=FUNNAY am i fuckin rite guys! TO THE EXTREEMEE".


With the difference between 2 and Maddox being that the later is funny, and the former is not. When Maddox writes up that he 'hates' hippies, or some movie or blogs, he truthfully probably mildly dislikes it. A well done article by him will make you go "That was funny!", not "Let's kill hippies/that movie/blogs." On the other hand, when 2 says he hates Christians, breastfeeding or goons... he means it. I don't think he sounds 'fake' so muchso as he does shallow.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 12:59:34 PM     Post subject:  

I don't think he sounds 'fake' so muchso as he does shallow.


Yes! That's the word I was looking for -- shallow.

Maddox's humour has a lot more substance than a usual "i hate bush! not my president!" rant. That's where most internet comics (or comics as a whole) go wrong: they think that if they rant on and on about how they hate such-and-such, it will be funny. But in the end they don't include any real substance, especially in the form of jokes.

I guess that's my point: 2's rants have no substance, pretty much like most of clumsy internet comedians out there.
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Posted: 9/2/2005 9:20:52 PM     Post subject:  

This whole thing reminds me, somehow, of how Xydexx (I think it was him anyway) was absolutely convinced that my fiance TNM went to this past Further Confusion with an evil SA goon sidekick and the intent of bringing the entire con down, or making up an anti-furry expose, or something of the sort.


New Meat can't even work up the energy to go to class half the time, much less mastermind a far-reaching anti-furry conspiracy...AM I RITE??


Class is for losers, not cool guys like me. And, yes, it was Xxydxx.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 8:02:08 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.livejournal.com/community/drama_awesome/53571.html
lol 2 dr4m4
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Posted: 9/4/2005 9:49:22 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.livejournal.com/community/drama_awesome/53571.html
lol 2 dr4m4


I like to admit it when I'm wrong about something... and I was wrong about non-English speaking people in America...

I hate them much more than I thought.

I just saw a guy walk in to a McDonald's from a construction site next door, and he didn't know enough English to place an order. He had to point to a picture of the shit he wanted.

Let me repeat here... A guy ...Living and working in America ...And he DIDN'T KNOW THE NUMBERS 1 - 6 IN ENGLISH.

Doom. I crave the doom.


That's the only part of that drama fest that could keep my attention for 2 seconds, the rest of it is too stupid and seemingly unrelated to 2. So he's furious about a mexican that has nothing to do with him that pointed to a picture of a fucking burger. I only wish i had so little to worry about. I wonder if 2's ancestors took ESL classes when they immigrated here like everybody else in the fucking country. Unless he's a native american i highly doubt they did. I'm not really claiming racist like all the fucking furs were against him but i am claiming that he's such a simpleton that he can't imagine himself in anybodies shoes but his own or even look logically at something like this.

I used to hate on the illegals also, mainly due to an incident where a few beat the living shit out of me and took my wallet cuz i was the only white kid in the niebhorhood. Then i acctually grew up a bit and got to know the community i lived in. Once you find out why the majority of them are here you can only empathize with the situation they've been born into. But god forbid 2 should empathize with anything, it's the worlds duty to not piss him off apparently and if your doing that, HE CRAVES DOOM!!1

NEWSFLASH: THEY ARE POOR, they don't give a shit about 2, they give a shit about working 80 hour work weeks to send money home to there families in mexico or wherever because they are :o less fortunate then us! How dare they! These poor slobs are doing coke and resorting to alcoholism just to get through the day so there child might live a better life and can acctually afford to go to school and learn english, cuz they could not. They're sacrificing there adulthoods for the sake of there families.

I was born in a trailer park, raised in a 2 bedroom house shared with 3 families and me and my brother are going to the most rediculously expensive colleges with no money. Why? Cuz i was born in america, i'm fucking lucky, they are not. 2 should pull his head out of his ass and imagine the situation these people are in. For all intensive purposes, there life ended the day they snuck over here, and theres a good chance there childrens future began at the same time. 2 might be a racist, i haven't confirmed that for myself, but he is a fucking ignoramous of the worst kind, THE LOUD KIND.


I have to say this is notable as well.

Hey, why don't you chat live on AIM or something, nick? What's the problem? BE SOMETHING THAT RESEMBLES A MAN.



:lol: :lol: :lol: It's just funny on so many levels. Thank you internet dorks
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Posted: 9/4/2005 12:04:53 PM     Post subject:  

I like mass debating, refining the way you think by learning from others*. It doesn't matter if you're left or right wing, if you've gained your opinions through actually thinking about things then I'm all ears, because these are the people who change my own views by showing me the inconsistencies and blind spots in the way I think. It's like distributed computing. Even bigots can be useful for learning how to avoid placing conclusion before theory.

But 2, oh Christ.. it's like nailing blancmange to a wall. The inconsistencies in his rants are so jarring that the ol' defense of 'it's just comedy' doesn't work. It's just gobshitery. I mean, fuck, listen to the rants on vegetarianism and hunting. He rants on about vegetarians being stupid because eating meat is natural and always has been. Vegetarians 'don't have the balls to accept the responsibility of having to kill to survive.. if you wanna live, you're gonna have to kill something else'. Next week, 2 is outraged at complimentary emails he's received from hunters, who he calls 'moron group B'. Hunting, you see, is wrong because it's 'murder', and there's no need to murder animals because you can buy meat in Safeways.

I mean, what the fuck?

* 'Mass debater' would have been a better username.
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Posted: 9/4/2005 4:12:23 PM     Post subject:  

2 only supports the eating of delicious Soylent Green.

Don't forget! Tusday is Soylent Green day!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 12:55:46 AM     Post subject:  

I just went and listened to 2's letters nonsense and shit... the guy is just gone, sorry. I hadn't been over there to listen to anything he's done lately and the last 2 Sense I heard was dated 12-10-04.

Holy shit the guy has gone off the deep end. Apparently, kids *NEED* him because he doesn't lie to them. And then he has the gall to say that furry fandom is all about fucking people in raccoon suits.

Sorry, but anyone who needs a fandom based on whacking off to big-titted gerbils just needs to step in front of a bus. That includes 2 or any of his online cronies or even anyone here. That kind of thing is just pathetic.

Then again, look at the people who apparently now listen to 2 Sense (and who think 2 is some kind of gay Dr. Laura).
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Posted: 9/5/2005 4:37:04 AM     Post subject:  

I see a big fat lock in this thread's future.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 4:45:46 AM     Post subject:  

So, all we're saying is that Andrew Dice Clay called, and his act was old 20 years ago?

I see a big fat lock in this thread's future.


I heartily support this motion.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 6:40:25 AM     Post subject:  

what
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:13:25 AM     Post subject:  

I see a big fat lock in this thread's future.


Why? Because it's only fun to poke fun at 2 until someone points out that all the things people are laughing at are in the mirror as well?
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Posted: 9/5/2005 8:41:00 AM     Post subject:  

So. A thread about how 2 is a complete douchebag. Simple, right? A surefire road to THE LULZ, you say?

AS IT TURNS OUT, NOT NECESSARILY
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Posted: 9/5/2005 9:19:26 AM     Post subject:  

lolz he is NUMBER 2
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Posted: 9/5/2005 2:10:03 PM     Post subject:  

Why? Because it's only fun to poke fun at 2 until someone points out that all the things people are laughing at are in the mirror as well?




Maybe it is YOU who is the ranting gryphon!
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Posted: 9/5/2005 5:31:50 PM     Post subject:  

I remember I used to listen to 2... A lot. Oh, young and impressionable youth. It kept bugging me though that it seemed he either was whoring out to his own fandom with inane, trivial matters to pick on or on a total crusade to eat the flesh of the unborn or whatever it is he wanted. In the end, I just couldn't listen to him anymore.

I'd like to credit him with a few good points... But also a billion negative ones.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 7:02:14 PM     Post subject:  

.

Now, he's acting like an extreme partisan for the dems, even claiming Bush cheated to win. Isn't that the type of bullshit logic he's supposedly against?



Well, hate to defend him, but there were major irregularities in the vote, especially with the new electronic voting machines. Things like more Republican votes in a county than there are registered voters.

I called the election for the Republicans when, looking it up, I saw that the Ohio Attorney-General or whatever official oversees the voting was a Republican.
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Posted: 9/5/2005 10:43:40 PM     Post subject:  

political stuff


Oh Christ, I shouldn't even have mentioned it... but election fuck-upery is nothing new, and it's often to to people in charge being morons rather than partisans. The point though was that most people who now claim that the election had partisan fraud weren't telling people to simply not vote back in 2004.

Right or wrong, it's like if I said that all motocycles weren't worth shit one month, and then vehemently argued that Jap bikes own Harley's the next. The inconsistancy alone is mind boggling, and that's my point.
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Posted: 9/7/2005 8:56:35 PM     Post subject:  

political stuff


Oh Christ, I shouldn't even have mentioned it... but election fuck-upery is nothing new, and it's often to to people in charge being morons rather than partisans. The point though was that most people who now claim that the election had partisan fraud weren't telling people to simply not vote back in 2004.

Right or wrong, it's like if I said that all motocycles weren't worth shit one month, and then vehemently argued that Jap bikes own Harley's the next. The inconsistancy alone is mind boggling, and that's my point.


I agree, missed that that's the bulk of what you were saying. People who bitch about the current order but don't vote are just being dumb. Even if you vote for some insane third party, least you voted. It's not like it hurt you any.
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Posted: 9/7/2005 10:13:26 PM     Post subject:  

Hey guys, I made my own rant, just like 2!

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37VWFXTTP5SWR1GHKP696KQ7FB

Granted it's not as high quality as 2's because a) I don't have very sophisticated recording equipment and b) I did mine all in one take. Still.
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Posted: 9/7/2005 11:37:07 PM     Post subject:  

Hey guys, I made my own rant, just like 2!

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37VWFXTTP5SWR1GHKP696KQ7FB

Granted it's not as high quality as 2's because a) I don't have very sophisticated recording equipment and b) I did mine all in one take. Still.


If you adjust the input signal to a level that does not make the soundcard go into clipping then it would sound a lot better.
But nice and fluid rant. You should be a radio show host, Mister !
Kudos for the UnrealII music. (Headshot! Double Kill ! MMMmonster kill !)
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Posted: 9/8/2005 2:28:11 AM     Post subject:  

Hey guys, I made my own rant, just like 2!

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37VWFXTTP5SWR1GHKP696KQ7FB

Granted it's not as high quality as 2's because a) I don't have very sophisticated recording equipment and b) I did mine all in one take. Still.

True, it's kind of hard to understand you, and the clipping kind of makes it sound like the computer is ranting to me instead of a real person, but it's good. At least you actually got your point across without shrieking and using the word "fuck" two dozen times.
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