Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Sinclair · Prattler Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 125

I'm reading the article from the "Old Stuff by New Meat" topic here in Chit Chat, and it basically twigged what I've felt all along.

A lot of the non-sexual stuff seems to be wierder.

Now, all fetishes have the lifestylers. They're the ones who, instead of just getting tied up or tying others up for sex, have some sort of master-slave relationship going on ALL THE TIME. Check out "total power exchange".

Furry porn runs the gamut from relatively vanilla straight or gay stuff, to really, really damn insane. Now, of course some people have freakier tastes in their fapfodder than others.

A lot of the non-sexual stuff is perfectly normal. Creating fantasy worlds and shit. I play RPGs and electronic games and Warhammer 40K, so I really have nothing to object to. And if sex does show up sometimes, yeah, it also does tend to IRL (I fuckin' hope!).

But, as with BDSM, the wierdest bits are the lifestylers. Because I can understand smut, and I can understand creating an imaginary world: Both are hobbies (I'm not gonna call all the porn a fetish, since hey, porn's porn, and probably to some the furriness is secondary to the porn). But when somebody (and not necessarily an Otherkin) tries to make their entire life based around what a hobby, a fetish, whatever, it gets wierd.

I ought to explain that I tend to compartmentalise my interests. I'm generally nerdy, but that's a theme: I don't wear clothes connected to the music I listen to, I don't read things connected to the games I play, etc.

The lifestylers just really, really wierd me out. The Otherkin are just plain crazy, literally mentally ill in some cases I'll bet, but the lifestylers have managed to delude themselves.

Thoughts?

Beauty of Nature · Prattler Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 178

You mean people that can be summed up in the term "obsessive" ?
Paracelsus said that everything is poison as long as the dosage is high enough. These people sure poison their lifes.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I'm reading the article from the "Old Stuff by New Meat" topic here in Chit Chat, and it basically twigged what I've felt all along.

A lot of the non-sexual stuff seems to be wierder.

Now, all fetishes have the lifestylers. They're the ones who, instead of just getting tied up or tying others up for sex, have some sort of master-slave relationship going on ALL THE TIME. Check out "total power exchange".

Furry porn runs the gamut from relatively vanilla straight or gay stuff, to really, really damn insane. Now, of course some people have freakier tastes in their fapfodder than others.

A lot of the non-sexual stuff is perfectly normal. Creating fantasy worlds and shit. I play RPGs and electronic games and Warhammer 40K, so I really have nothing to object to. And if sex does show up sometimes, yeah, it also does tend to IRL (I fuckin' hope!).

But, as with BDSM, the wierdest bits are the lifestylers. Because I can understand smut, and I can understand creating an imaginary world: Both are hobbies (I'm not gonna call all the porn a fetish, since hey, porn's porn, and probably to some the furriness is secondary to the porn). But when somebody (and not necessarily an Otherkin) tries to make their entire life based around what a hobby, a fetish, whatever, it gets wierd.

I ought to explain that I tend to compartmentalise my interests. I'm generally nerdy, but that's a theme: I don't wear clothes connected to the music I listen to, I don't read things connected to the games I play, etc.

The lifestylers just really, really wierd me out. The Otherkin are just plain crazy, literally mentally ill in some cases I'll bet, but the lifestylers have managed to delude themselves.

Thoughts?

I haven't heard the term otherkin before, I'll probably regret this but can someone explain it to me?

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I haven't heard the term otherkin before, I'll probably regret this but can someone explain it to me?

An otherkin is nothing more than a person who considers him or herself to be non-human in some way. They will often claim that they are an animal trapped in a hyooman body, have the soul of a dragon, can feel where their wings/tail would have been, are really vampires/werewolves, or otherwise don't feel wholely human.

Needless to say that otherkin are among the saddest in human society.

Wikipedia Article

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I haven't heard the term otherkin before, I'll probably regret this but can someone explain it to me?

An otherkin is nothing more than a person who considers him or herself to be non-human in some way. They will often claim that they are an animal trapped in a hyooman body, have the soul of a dragon, can feel where their wings/tail would have been, are really vampires/werewolves, or otherwise don't feel wholely human.

Needless to say that otherkin are among the saddest in human society.

Wikipedia Article

Can they be commited?

Sinclair · Prattler Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 125

They are mentally ill.

I've heard of people who are mentally ill thinking they're vampires, and actually developing psychosomatic conditions like burning easily in the sun. Might be BS though.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

They are mentally ill.

I've heard of people who are mentally ill thinking they're vampires, and actually developing psychosomatic conditions like burning easily in the sun. Might be BS though.

That's why I brought it up, it's like believing your Napoleon.

21st Century Digital Boy · Venter Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 202

Needless to say that otherkin are among the saddest in human society.

Trust me, there's always someone sadder. Much, MUCH sadder.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Needless to say that otherkin are among the saddest in human society.

Trust me, there's always someone sadder. Much, MUCH sadder.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Your right, that's the saddest thing i've seen, and it's not even furry :o

They're souls are derived from cartoons and videogame characters that don't acctually exist for those that don't want to read the worlds biggest TOS. no wonder they get a lot of flames in there hhahahaha!

"I've known for 20 years that i was Leon Kennedy trapped in a fat nerds body."

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

...

The fascinating thing about the internet: When you think you've found the absolute craziest guy ever, someone else even more batshit insane comes along.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

OMG OTAKIN. I will die laughing

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

OMG OTAKIN. I will die laughing

Now all we need is a 20 questions site that will tell us what our otatotem is ;)

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I don't want to know what my Oatatotem is.
A friend of mine is heavily into the whole Shaman thing, and believes she's a grey wolf.
Anyways. Yes. Alot of things that arent necessarily dirty are just as much, if not, more trainwreck-worthy than the porny stuff out there.
But the porn horrors are much easier to come by, as there's more of it, and it's more widely distributed.
Although, I'm trying to decide what's worse, at the moment of two pictures I saw today...
A limbless bloody dog-seahorse-thing from VCL Horrors, or a TDK/EWS picture I saw recently of Jolly Old St. Nicholas doing Minerva Mink from behind.
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, DOESN'T IT.
HMMM.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

A limbless bloody dog-seahorse-thing from VCL Horrors, or a TDK/EWS picture I saw recently of Jolly Old St. Nicholas doing Minerva Mink from behind.
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, DOESN'T IT.
HMMM.

Links please, dearie.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

A limbless bloody dog-seahorse-thing from VCL Horrors, or a TDK/EWS picture I saw recently of Jolly Old St. Nicholas doing Minerva Mink from behind.
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, DOESN'T IT.
HMMM.

Links please, dearie.

Well, the Minerva pic is in a members-only group (STFU IT WAS JUST MY NATURAL CURIOSITY) and the weird bloody...thing...is here:
http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Purple/Complete/Psycho.jpg

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

A limbless bloody dog-seahorse-thing from VCL Horrors, or a TDK/EWS picture I saw recently of Jolly Old St. Nicholas doing Minerva Mink from behind.
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, DOESN'T IT.
HMMM.

Links please, dearie.

Well, the Minerva pic is in a members-only group (STFU IT WAS JUST MY NATURAL CURIOSITY) and the weird bloody...thing...is here:
http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Purple/Complete/Psycho.jpg

Well, that's uh... Something. Is it an unborn wolf fetus thing?

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

A limbless bloody dog-seahorse-thing from VCL Horrors, or a TDK/EWS picture I saw recently of Jolly Old St. Nicholas doing Minerva Mink from behind.
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, DOESN'T IT.
HMMM.

Links please, dearie.

Well, the Minerva pic is in a members-only group (STFU IT WAS JUST MY NATURAL CURIOSITY) and the weird bloody...thing...is here:
http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Purple/Complete/Psycho.jpg

Pity theres not enough time put into it to make it AA worthy. Most likely the "artist" knows how lame it is and didn't invest more than a half hour to it.

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Well, that's uh... Something. Is it an unborn wolf fetus thing?

Read before you kneejerk.

Amputation fetish, I dunno. O.O

She's cute. But I also think this is hot, so whatever.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Well, that's uh... Something. Is it an unborn wolf fetus thing?

Read before you kneejerk.

Amputation fetish, I dunno. O.O

She's cute. But I also think this is hot, so whatever.

Wow. That second one is pretty cool, I have to say.

Kadius · Needs to get out more Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 911

I don't know if anyone has mentioned Boston & Shaun here yet.

But, my god. It's like it was written by a retarded pedophile on acid.

Edit: Oh yes, a flash.

Dr. Mojo · Vociferator Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 399

it was

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

I don't know if anyone has mentioned Boston & Shaun here yet.

But, my god. It's like it was written by a retarded pedophile on acid.

That site could drive almost anyone insane....

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

It's so surreal that it's brilliant.

At least last year when I read through some of the early comics. I recall one where the kid was complaining that his soup was cold so in the next panel the dragon was breathing fire on it and in the next panel the kid is all MY SOUP MELTED MY SPOON

i love it.

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

It's so surreal that it's brilliant.

Bah! It pales in comparison to Pokey!

At least last year when I read through some of the early comics. I recall one where the kid was complaining that his soup was cold so in the next panel the dragon was breathing fire on it and in the next panel the kid is all MY SOUP MELTED MY SPOON

i love it.

Boston and Shaun disturbs me, in a way. Because it is "An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment" to something, and therefore is a fetish, sexual or not.

In that way, yes, the non-sexual stuff is weirder, because if it's sexual, we can file it away as yet another entry between Freud, the DSM, and The Kinsey Report. It's not as easy when it's 'merely' an obsessive compulsion.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Boston and Shaun. Is that...? Oh God, yes it is. >_< I think the fact that it's not overtly sexual, yet is rife with fetishes, is what makes it so mind-bending.

On the upshot, all this experience with thought patterns that are simply not human will be of great use when we make first contact with alien races.

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

Boston and Shaun is weird and strangely depressing.

That's all I Have to say about that.

cheberet · Coadjutor Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 71

I'm wondering how the Boston and Shaun guy (I assume) figured out how to make a website. And why did they all suddenly and inexplicably turn into kangaroos? Hyoomans too hard to draw?

Dr. Mojo · Vociferator Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 399

This is his honest-to-god reason for making them Kangaroos:

"I made them kangaroos because I like kangaroos. :)"

Brentos · Apocrisiary Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 48

The non-sexual stuff is weirder because that in itself is unusual and different from your run of the mill furry porn. Furry porn is always just the same old thing over and over and over...

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

The non-sexual stuff is weirder because that in itself is unusual and different from your run of the mill furry porn. Furry porn is always just the same old thing over and over and over...

While I agree that the non-sexual stuff can be weirder, I don't think furry porn is just "the same old thing". Furry pornsters have been very effective at making up some really grotesque sexual scenery... I mean, some of the things linked to in the Atrocity Archive - yeeek!

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

The non-sexual stuff is weirder because that in itself is unusual and different from your run of the mill furry porn. Furry porn is always just the same old thing over and over and over...

May I volunteer a suggestion? Hagfish hard vore yiff. Pure gold. They liquify their prey, and as I've said secrete copious slime. Flexible, jellylike in consistancy and if I remember right the species is hermephroditic. Really, I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

May I volunteer a suggestion? Hagfish hard vore yiff. Pure gold. They liquify their prey, and as I've said secrete copious slime. Flexible, jellylike in consistancy and if I remember right the species is hermephroditic. Really, I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

Unfortunately, hagfish aren't considered sexy, so it's not likely this will be done. You need cuddly-yiffy foxes or awesome-powerful dragons or somesuch.

Even more unfortunately, furry liquify-the-prey porn has been made. A very NSFW example, courtesy of this thread.

Captious Tyro · Rasophore Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 51

I actually remember an article from a few years back in which someone pretty much said exactally that. I searched about for it but couldn't find it. I'm pretty sure it was a "Savage Love" coloumn, in which Dan Savage said that he could personally understand some weird fetish thing more quickly than some bizarre otherkin thing, but he phrased it much differently than that. Anyone else able to find a link to that old coloumn?