Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

P.V. Jeltz · Qualificator Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 9

There was a debate recently on Spacebattles.com regarding this story:

http://www.orionsarm.com/stories/Hell.html

One poster described it as "religious bdsm uber-furrywank" or something to that effect. The question is, would you classify this story as furry at all? Sure, there are anthro characters in it, and at least 3 humans (not counting the flashback scenes). But isn't it REALLY about something more ... umm ... grotesque?

Is there some sort of "furry quota" to define the genre boundary?

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 658

There was a debate recently on Spacebattles.com regarding this story:

http://www.orionsarm.com/stories/Hell.html

One poster described it as "religious bdsm uber-furrywank" or something to that effect. The question is, would you classify this story as furry at all? Sure, there are anthro characters in it, and at least 3 humans (not counting the flashback scenes). But isn't it REALLY about something more ... umm ... grotesque?

Is there some sort of "furry quota" to define the genre boundary?

IMHO that's not furry. But it's definitely verging on it.

Cephus · Prattler Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 107

There was a debate recently on Spacebattles.com regarding this story:

http://www.orionsarm.com/stories/Hell.html

One poster described it as "religious bdsm uber-furrywank" or something to that effect. The question is, would you classify this story as furry at all? Sure, there are anthro characters in it, and at least 3 humans (not counting the flashback scenes). But isn't it REALLY about something more ... umm ... grotesque?

Is there some sort of "furry quota" to define the genre boundary?

It's furry if it has anthropomorphic characters in it. It probably only counts as furrywankery if it's all furries humping treestumps though, but then again, most furries are severely screwed up and have lost track of what furry means.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 658

There was a debate recently on Spacebattles.com regarding this story:

http://www.orionsarm.com/stories/Hell.html

One poster described it as "religious bdsm uber-furrywank" or something to that effect. The question is, would you classify this story as furry at all? Sure, there are anthro characters in it, and at least 3 humans (not counting the flashback scenes). But isn't it REALLY about something more ... umm ... grotesque?

Is there some sort of "furry quota" to define the genre boundary?

It's furry if it has anthropomorphic characters in it. It probably only counts as furrywankery if it's all furries humping treestumps though, but then again, most furries are severely screwed up and have lost track of what furry means.

Question: are aliens "furry"? Bearing in mind that most aliens in SF are anthropomorphic to some extent. Or do they have to be obvious "animal people"?

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

Question: are aliens "furry"? Bearing in mind that most aliens in SF are anthropomorphic to some extent. Or do they have to be obvious "animal people"?

If they're the kind of aliens as in Quozl, then I think it's safe to say yes.

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

It's a mess, that's what it is.

Yeah, the aliens had much of the whole furry thing going on. Joey-cub? And the mandatory majestic ultra-powerful etc, etc, etc.

And Cats being imps for some cat-goddess that looks nothing like a cat. The what? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

And the last part was just an over-the-top and melodramatic gorefest, really. And with such an overemphasis on PAIN, with truly flat characters. Toss them all into ~~the sarlacc pit~~ AM the planet, says I.

Is there some sort of "furry quota" to define the genre boundary?

I'd say no. Although the whole 'Can we replace these characters with people in costumes, without losing any supposed value?' does seem to be a good rule of thumb for me. But frankly, I've given up on trying to define it. Focus on more real boundaries, like, 'Does this suck?'

Cephus · Prattler Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 107

Question: are aliens "furry"? Bearing in mind that most aliens in SF are anthropomorphic to some extent. Or do they have to be obvious "animal people"?

In the purest sense, anthropomorphics is the giving of human or human-like characteristics to something which otherwise does not possess them. The Brave Little Toaster is anthropomorphic. I think that among furries, restricting that to animals is probably a good idea, but if you're talking about aliens that are anthro bugs or sharks or something, why not?

P.V. Jeltz · Qualificator Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 9

It's a mess, that's what it is.

Yeah, the aliens had much of the whole furry thing going on. Joey-cub? And the mandatory majestic ultra-powerful etc, etc, etc.

I’ve just done some browsing on the Orion’s Arm website, and it turns out that those critters weren’t really aliens at all.

THESE are the aliens.

Apparently in Orion’s Arm, anything that resembles Earth life probably descended from Earth life (gene splicing and all that).

Here are some examples:

Provolves

Splices

Rianths

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 679

Thank you PV Jeltz for the second bunch of images after Mitch's link to that bathroomplay image to make me scream incoherently and babble like a nut in front of the monitor banging my head into the keyboard until a random combination of key hits took it away and I was able to grab the liquor bottle and down another swig to deaden the pain.

The Splices image is another example of the mental impact described by the (overused) net word OMGWTFBBQ.

Captious Tyro · Rasophore Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 51

Umm, so much for assuming that, the site was some wierd amature scifi site. Those pics make it totally unnecessary to actually read any text to determine what the true purpose of the site is.

5thehardway · Prattler Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 161

Splices

Negative points for using the word "manimal" in a non-humorous or -pop-cultural context. >.<

The New Meat · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 933

Negative points for using the word "manimal" in a non-humorous or -pop-cultural context. >.<

Only John Travolta can pull off that word. Because he has leverage.

USMC-Sgt.MURDER · Coadjutor Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 82

Nope, John Travolta said, "Man-Animal"

But then again John Travolta is a Scientologist... so who cares what he says.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

But then again John Travolta is a Scientologist... so who cares what he says.

THANK YOU!

After Battlefield Earth, he should have been force-sterilized.

USMC-Sgt.MURDER · Coadjutor Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 82

Hey AngryPuritan, remember that big explosion at the end...

Yeah that was John Travolta's Career.

Is there some sort of "furry quota" to define the genre boundary?

Yes there is. 18 gallons of spooge and a minimum of 16 shittingdicknipplehermtaurs. Am I forgetting anything?

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 700

I actually like John Travolta. I think he might just be a scientologist for the tax breaks on cult status. He seems like a really nice guy. :|

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 679

He seems like a really nice guy.

This has probably been said my more women to their mothers before their husbands chopped them up, stuffed the remains in a trunk, and took off to start a whole new life before being featured on America's Most Wanted than any other phrase.

Of course, similar sentiments have been expressed about furries and we know how nice they really are.

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

I actually like John Travolta. I think he might just be a scientologist for the tax breaks on cult status. He seems like a really nice guy. :|

The only person who scientology offers tax breaks to is L. Ron Hubbard. :wink:

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Isn't that just because "chained by psycologists in the depths of a volcano" isn't a valid place of residence?

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I actually like John Travolta. I think he might just be a scientologist for the tax breaks on cult status. He seems like a really nice guy. :|

The only person who scientology offers tax breaks to is L. Ron Hubbard. :wink:

Heh, I was in the 1st and 2nd grade with his granndaughter (Back when I lived in LA)...I bit her once.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

Heh, I was in the 1st and 2nd grade with his granndaughter (Back when I lived in LA)...I bit her once.

My hero! <3

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Heh, I was in the 1st and 2nd grade with his granndaughter (Back when I lived in LA)...I bit her once.

My hero! <3

The teachers sent home a note to her parents tellng her to get a tetanus shot.
So not only did I bite her, I got her a jab in the arm, too.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Heh, I was in the 1st and 2nd grade with his granndaughter (Back when I lived in LA)...I bit her once.

My hero! <3

The teachers sent home a note to her parents tellng her to get a tetanus shot.
So not only did I bite her, I got her a jab in the arm, too.

You are officially the coolest person I have ever had any tangental contact with.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Heh, I was in the 1st and 2nd grade with his granndaughter (Back when I lived in LA)...I bit her once.

My hero! <3

The teachers sent home a note to her parents tellng her to get a tetanus shot.
So not only did I bite her, I got her a jab in the arm, too.

You are officially the coolest person I have ever had any tangental contact with.

That's awesome.
She tasted like pork. MMm.
ANYWAYS BACK ON TOPIC I guess