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Mitch
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Posted: 9/11/2005 6:16:14 PM
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Shamelessly stolen from Nothingkat's LJ - the Positive Zoophilia LJ Community.
Appearently I have been approved for the group and wanted to say hello. Not to tell to much about me.. I have a small farm in the middle of nowhere in the midwest. About 1.5 dozen equines here of varous sorts most refugees, retirees and whatever needed a home. I have dogs cats whatever. People have learned Im the unoffical animal shelter of the county so I find somthing new left at the gate on occasion. I have a mare who is my soul mate plus a soon to be wife and step son. Fortunatly all my love intrests are happy and get along with everyone else life isnt easy but when is it ever.
....and (as always) much, much more. |
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AlbinoHagfish
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Posted: 9/11/2005 6:23:38 PM
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I have a mare who is my soul mate plus a soon to be wife and step son.
WTF kind of woman would take second rung to mare? That's eerily like my aforementioned ex's aunt divorcing her husband for her dogs. DUBYA TEE EFF. Oh, and...poor fucking kid. Seriously. |
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IceCat
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On several occasions over the last two days I have been 'sexually harassed' by a large muscular male dog of Rottweiler and other ancestry. He had taken a liking to me with no prompting on my part, and I had to physically discourage his amorous advances. This doesn't bother me as he is a very sweet boy and someday he will have his way with me - I just don't think I'm ready. The point is, there was no question of his willigness in that situation. He was asking loudly for sex in all the ways he knew how.
This guy needs to be put away for a very long time. |
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Lim-Dul
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Posted: 9/11/2005 6:57:02 PM
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As some of you may know,
I recently adopted a cute little bitch who had been abandoned and was going to be put down.
Things have progressed. We went to the vet and I spent lots of money. She's been vaccinated, de-fleed, de-wormed, checked and microchipped.
The vet also found a scar - it looks like she has been speyed.
This has led to me facing a difficult decision. Either way I look at it, it feels wrong. On the one paw she's a cool dog -
sweet, cuddly, feisty at times, strong personality and very good looking. She would be a great companion for my boy.
On the other paw, I have certain criteria. I'm not allowed more then two dogs without a special permit,
and even if I was I don't think I could give them the attention they deserved if I had more.
And (not to put too finer point on it) I am really a fan of bitch pussy. Not just sex, but the whole sexy package.
I hate to look at this girl and think that a part of her has been removed, and she will never fully develop 'down there'.
Now, I know sex isn't everyting and I probably wouldn't be so obsessed if I had it available every day.
But if I keep this dog I am committing myself to at least 10 years without that in my life,
and I'm really not sure I want to do that. I think I will always regret the missed opportunity.
Another person who needs to be locked up permanently. |
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Cephus
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:09:01 PM
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I have a mare who is my soul mate plus a soon to be wife and step son.
WTF kind of woman would take second rung to mare? That's eerily like my aforementioned ex's aunt divorcing her husband for her dogs. DUBYA TEE EFF. Oh, and...poor fucking kid. Seriously.
You notice he never said the species of the wife and son, they could be dogs or cats or something...
Now that's even more disturbing... |
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cheberet
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Posted: 9/11/2005 7:34:56 PM
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I'm more disgusted by the people who are prowling animal shelters for "sexual partners" to adopt. They harp about how the shelters "require sexual mutilation" before you can take the animal home. Well.
I volunteer at an animal shelter every weekend and the thought of someone taking home an animal for the sole purpose of fucking it up the ass every night horrifies me. We are not allowed to tell someone that they are unfit to own an animal, and this means that if someone wants a dog or a cat, they are free to waltz off with it. I think we would love to tell many people to go the hell away and pick up a goldfish, but that's not allowed.
The zoophiles also seem hopeful that people who work at shelters are too stupid to recognize obvious perverts. Trust me, they're not - but there may not be much they can do about it. Spaying and neutering seems to be one of the last defenses against these loathsome human beings. The fact that we have to worry about making an animal less sexually appealing before we adopt it out is a pretty obvious example of how vile people can be. That these people want to be "accepted" and even respected for raping innocent animals makes me homocidal.
Perhaps the worst to me is that zoophiles think up various reasons why spaying and neutering is "bad" or detrimental. They claim that the health and behavior benefits are made up, and that "you shouldn't own an animal if you're not willing to own it intact." Beyond the obvious falseness of all these claims, their attitude obviously indicates that they don't care about animals beyond their use as sex objects.
Because, after all, there's no such thing as consensual sex with an animal. It's simply too perverse to engage in a sexual relationship with anything you are the primary caregiver for. There's a sick power play and conflict of interest going on there that should never, ever happen. That's exactly what these assholes are into. They're not as bad as pedophiles, but they're pretty damn close. Each enjoys preying on the innocent, weak, and helpless, and each enjoy making up justifications to themselves for why their victim "wanted" it. Both need to be locked up. |
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Beauty of Nature
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I can understand how some people consider horses to be spiritually linked to them.
Since a horse weighs about 800 pounds, farts rythmically every 10 minutes and smells like a sewer pipe. |
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Rewind
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Posted: 9/11/2005 9:01:46 PM
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I feel very sad for the animals, but I also, for some obscure reason, feel sad for those people too. |
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AngryPuritan
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Posted: 9/11/2005 11:20:43 PM
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There's a sick power play and conflict of interest going on there that should never, ever happen. That's exactly what these assholes are into. They're not as bad as pedophiles, but they're pretty damn close. Each enjoys preying on the innocent, weak, and helpless, and each enjoy making up justifications to themselves for why their victim "wanted" it. Both need to be locked up.
You should also take note that along with Pedophiles, they also have the same tendency to get jobs or positions where they have contact with their prey. It's not someone who lives halfway across town sneaking onto a farm to rape animals, it's the fucking farmer... or in this case, shelter owner. |
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baserock love
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Posted: 9/11/2005 11:49:07 PM
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I'm just curious, what do you guys think an appropriate punishment for fucking an animal is? It can't even come close to child molestation IMO. I'd say maybe a month in jail first offense, 6 a second, third a year. It is after all an animal and i find myself getting outraged less due to the fact that the animal is abused and hurt but more due to the fact that a human is sticking his dick in it and is sad enough to do something like that.
It doesn't make it any less cruel to the animal but animals are slaughtered by the thousands for food and useless fashion products every day so a dog getting assraped doesn't sadden me that much. It's the guy that resorts to assraping a dog that saddens me. |
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cheberet
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Posted: 9/12/2005 12:21:02 AM
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Well, I think it should be a pretty damn stiff punishment. I suspect getting off on that sort of power dynamic could lead to going after kids as well. It's in the same vein of the old argument for preventing animal cruelty - ie, people who abuse animals often go on to abuse people. |
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Trista
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I'm more disgusted by the people who are prowling animal shelters for "sexual partners" to adopt. They harp about how the shelters "require sexual mutilation" before you can take the animal home. Well.
Just tell them to go get Neuticles and stop their bitching. ;) Err...uh...wait, that's not actually any better. :P
are slaughtered by the thousands for food and useless fashion products every day
The difference is thanks to people like Temple Grandin, slaughter can be done without inflicting pain on the animals. Or at least, the animals don't exhibit any signs that would indicate they're in pain, which is something she's good at watching and listening for. I know not all slaughterhouses are equipped with her so-called "stairway to heaven," but she audits the slaughterhouses used by major fast food chains, so that's quite an impact.
Zoophilia just sounds, well, painful. I wouldn't equate it with child rape either, though. |
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Stoneth
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baserock love
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Posted: 9/12/2005 5:41:50 AM
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I also notice that the folks who are always so vocal against neutering are the ones who are mostly interested in having their way with said animal. Not work safe or mind safe. Do you recall the most famous dogfucker of them all?
I suppose the mass sexual mutilation of sentient beings by humanity wouldn't be such a bad thing if humans would include themselves in this hypocritical practice; since it is an overabundance of humanity that poses the greatest detrimental impact on this beautiful planet's environment.
How embarassing. Senor dogfucker thought dogs were self aware and went through all the trouble making that website cuz he thought they understood/cared what was happening to them. It's an honest mistake and i'm sure the site will be removed when he reads this and realizes his mistake. Or did Mitch IP ban him? :lol:
It's another strike for dogfucker in the fact that he made this website trying to raise awareness to what he may think is a legitimate cause and pisses away all his credibility by making it known he gives in to sexual urges directed at animals. Showing LRWA's on the front page of a anti neuter site, not to mention the page about "How to Care For a Sexual Being" area complete with disclaimer/dogfuckery. To save you all the horror of reading it he tells you to beat your dog off frequently cuz it can prevent cancer :lol: :lol: |
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cheberet
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Posted: 9/12/2005 5:51:40 AM
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I'm just pissed off that pet overpopulation isn't even brought up by these people. They apparantly ignore that that is the reason most animal rights adocates are so vocal about getting pets fixed. Apparantly they'd rather see a huge amount of adorable puppies and kitties put to sleep rather then OMG SEXUALLY MUTILATE OUR ANIMAL LOVERS.
They should all rot in hell. > : ( |
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baserock love
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Posted: 9/12/2005 10:27:33 AM
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in my last serous long term relationship with a girl, she constantly asked me if i find her attractive and asked me "Do you find me or a mare more attractive" and i answer truthfully with "There’s no human on earth that is more beautiful than a mare in my opinion." and wow, that sent her crying when I didn't mean to be hurtful, just truthful.
Wow, just wow. I can't imagine how fucking a mare could be a satisfying sexual experience. I once slept with this slut i hadn't seen since highschool, i couldn't enjoy it, it felt like i was having sex with a wet latex glove, it was that loose. I later found out she'd fucked 23 guys in the 4 years since highschool(she told me 5 before we did anything :? ). but given the obvious anatomical differences of a human male and a stallion I can't fathom how someone could get there rocks off doing it. This is of coursing overlooking the fact that it's a horse.
But regardless, if you would acctually prefer a horse or any animal to a human it's time to see a shrink or a sexual psychotherapist. This kid is pretty young that said this so it's possible he's lying but I highly doubt that anybody that is succesful with the opposite sex acctually prefers animals. I think he's just trying to justify it to himself and sound superior to the other dog fuckers. They're probably so curious what it's like to get with an actual human.
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Take the what animal would you fuck if someone put a gun to your head quiz :)
http://quizilla.com/users/Psylen/quizzes/What%20animal%20would%20you%20have%20sex%20with%20(If%20you%20had%20to)%3F/
Apparently i want to fuck a cow. That's funny cuz when it basically asks you what animal you would LEAST want to fuck cow was number 2 on my list of most disgusting. i won't even eat a cow. They were truly put here to be killed an ground into burgers, i see no other reason for there existence. |
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Charisma
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Posted: 9/12/2005 11:13:52 AM
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People can do anything if they create excuses and good reason behind it. This is why these sites encourage zoos....they give them reassurance and a way to not feel guilty. I believe Ebon Lupus probably made his own sites for the very same reason...they explain to himself how he isn't wrong to do the things he does and at the same time draws in people that can reassure him further because they do the same.
Since I recently cheated on my boyfriend with the same sex and convinced myself it wasn't cheating because of that little fact even, though he would still think it was, I think anybody could convince themselves they are doing 'the right thing' if they surrounded with certain company and a whole fanbase of people that agree with you.
edit: bleh, sorry if my grammar is a bit poor today, I just woke up |
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Mastertran
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Posted: 9/12/2005 4:42:31 PM
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I'm just curious, what do you guys think an appropriate punishment for fucking an animal is? It can't even come close to child molestation IMO. I'd say maybe a month in jail first offense, 6 a second, third a year. It is after all an animal and i find myself getting outraged less due to the fact that the animal is abused and hurt but more due to the fact that a human is sticking his dick in it and is sad enough to do something like that
In Egypt we used to cut your balls off. But I don't know if that was offical policy or just mobs having their way. All I know is that people didn't go around doing it very much in Cairo. |
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5thehardway
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Now just look what happens when you take the thick skull of the average insensitive male and put the brain of a pervert into it:
Such as in my last serous long term relationship with a girl, she constantly asked me if i find her attractive and asked me "Do you find me or a mare more attractive" and i answer truthfully with "There’s no human on earth that is more beautiful than a mare in my opinion." and wow, that sent her crying when I didn't mean to be hurtful, just truthful.
Real smooth, dude! LAFFO |
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21st Century Digital Boy
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HAHAHA^∞ |
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Cephus
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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:03:17 PM
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I'm just curious, what do you guys think an appropriate punishment for fucking an animal is? It can't even come close to child molestation IMO. I'd say maybe a month in jail first offense, 6 a second, third a year. It is after all an animal and i find myself getting outraged less due to the fact that the animal is abused and hurt but more due to the fact that a human is sticking his dick in it and is sad enough to do something like that.
Why not? After all, aren't the crimes pretty much the same? In both cases, the pervert is taking sexual advantage of an innocent. An animal may never be able to comprehend what's going on, it's coming to its owner because it knows it requires food and shelter. If it has to endure molestation to get that, most animals will put up with the pain and confusion because that's how they get fed.
I'd say the penalties should be pretty similar, just like the crimes are. If it's true that people who torture animals soon move on to people, I wouldn't be surprised that people who rape animals wouldn't move on to humans at some point. Get them now, before it's too late. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 9/12/2005 9:42:18 PM
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HAHAHA^∞
OH MY FUCKING GOODNESS.
There are no posts there. That's a relief.
But the fact that this community EXISTS.
I think I just puked in my mouth a little. |
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Kadius
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Posted: 9/12/2005 11:52:36 PM
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HAHAHA^∞
OH MY FUCKING GOODNESS.
There are no posts there. That's a relief.
But the fact that this community EXISTS.
I think I just puked in my mouth a little.
From the missing chapter in Genesis:
On the 10th day, Adam put his dick in a unicorn.
And god saw that this was good. |
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Sehvekah
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HAHAHA^∞
YES! I knew something like this would show up sooner or later, and now it's here, and there's no posts yet... I can lurk and watch the drama come crashing down like a ton of bricks, and then it'll get deleted for one reason or another... This is just too perfect, I'll be laughing for the next week... :D |
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Mastertran
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I'm laughing right now! :P |
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Doom
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*ahem* That community is dead, as its solitary post indicated: "This LJ Community is moving and will be back under a different user."
Wasn't hard to find where it moved to, though. Have fun. |
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Stoneth
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Christian Zoos? As a Christian I can say that kind of makes me sick. Obviously, someone didn't read Exodus.
Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.
Perhaps a little harsh, but at least the message is clear. There are also some anti-bestiality quotes in Leviticus, but Leviticus is horribly outdated as a whole, so I won't quote them. |
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HAHAHA^∞
I feel sorry for these people. You've got to be far gone to see a place for yourself in a religion that can't even seem to decide whether gay people deserve human rights or not.
Have a look at the members' journals. "NOTHING DEFINES ME BESIDES MY CRAZYASS SEXUALITY, HEY I THINK THAT'S ALL I'LL EVER TALK ABOUT FOR A YEAR OR TWO.
MORE TO LIFE?? LIES!" |
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baserock love
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I'm just curious, what do you guys think an appropriate punishment for fucking an animal is? It can't even come close to child molestation IMO. I'd say maybe a month in jail first offense, 6 a second, third a year. It is after all an animal and i find myself getting outraged less due to the fact that the animal is abused and hurt but more due to the fact that a human is sticking his dick in it and is sad enough to do something like that.
Why not? After all, aren't the crimes pretty much the same? In both cases, the pervert is taking sexual advantage of an innocent. An animal may never be able to comprehend what's going on, it's coming to its owner because it knows it requires food and shelter. If it has to endure molestation to get that, most animals will put up with the pain and confusion because that's how they get fed.
I'd say the penalties should be pretty similar, just like the crimes are. If it's true that people who torture animals soon move on to people, I wouldn't be surprised that people who rape animals wouldn't move on to humans at some point. Get them now, before it's too late.
I still don't think it should be even close to the punishment. When i compare things like this i look at a worst case scenario, murder. If you kill a child, you do not deserve to live, you should be put to death so that you never can hurt another child again. If you kill an animal (i mean like MURDER, you know, "esmie style") , you should be jailed for awhile and receive counciling because your obviously twisted. An animals life/wellbeing pales in comparison to a humans so i don't think they should be equal punishments. |
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Sixtail
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And furrys wonder why there's a sitgma that follows the fandom. This is why. This and good old Ebon dogfuckershitbag. I'm waiting for the way he posts he's gotten some horrid virus...so I may laugh. |
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Cephus
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I still don't think it should be even close to the punishment. When i compare things like this i look at a worst case scenario, murder. If you kill a child, you do not deserve to live, you should be put to death so that you never can hurt another child again. If you kill an animal (i mean like MURDER, you know, "esmie style") , you should be jailed for awhile and receive counciling because your obviously twisted. An animals life/wellbeing pales in comparison to a humans so i don't think they should be equal punishments.
It's not a matter of the animal being equal to a human, it's a matter of someone who abuses animals will, at some point in time, graduate to abusing humans. If you can catch this idiot early before it progresses that far and stop them, then you save later human trauma. |
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baserock love
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I still don't think it should be even close to the punishment. When i compare things like this i look at a worst case scenario, murder. If you kill a child, you do not deserve to live, you should be put to death so that you never can hurt another child again. If you kill an animal (i mean like MURDER, you know, "esmie style") , you should be jailed for awhile and receive counciling because your obviously twisted. An animals life/wellbeing pales in comparison to a humans so i don't think they should be equal punishments.
It's not a matter of the animal being equal to a human, it's a matter of someone who abuses animals will, at some point in time, graduate to abusing humans. If you can catch this idiot early before it progresses that far and stop them, then you save later human trauma.
I'm not entirely convinced that it's %100 that dog fuckers will go after children, i do however think that it IS more likely. I think some of these people honestly do have a bizarre sexual attraction to animals and that's it. |
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AngryPuritan
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Christian Zoos? As a Christian I can say that kind of makes me sick. Obviously, someone didn't read Exodus.
Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.
Perhaps a little harsh, but at least the message is clear. There are also some anti-bestiality quotes in Leviticus, but Leviticus is horribly outdated as a whole, so I won't quote them.
Fucking animals is one of those things like say... dipping babies in acid. You shouldn't need an advanced moral system or scripture to spell it out to know it's just plain fucking wrong! |
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Troggler
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Posted: 9/14/2005 8:37:25 AM
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For some reason I'm terribly afraid of the "Baby Acid Dipping" LJ to pop up...
I can hear it now...
*crash!*
"POLICE! PUT THE BABY DOWN!"
"OMG YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! WE'RE EXPRESSING OURSELVES! I'LL WRITE ABOUT YOU IN MY LJ!"
Here's hoping for some police brutality. |
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SkunkDogFromSpace
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I belive that the punishment for the crime should be equal to the act.
Rape=balls off
Pedophilia=balls off
Zoophilia=balls off
etc..
If someone stabs you, you gotta take the knife away, you know >:D
'cus they sure ain't gonna stop as long as they have the opportunity
Rapists should be sterilized and locked up for good
Pedophiles should be strerilized and not allowed to get to the children
Zoophiles should be sterilized and given no acess to the animal (Get their farm away from them etc..)
It's simple like that, eh? |
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Cephus
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Fucking animals is one of those things like say... dipping babies in acid. You shouldn't need an advanced moral system or scripture to spell it out to know it's just plain fucking wrong!
You obviously have never talked to a lot of these Christians. They'll tell you that if it wasn't for God telling them what to do, they'd be out raping, murdering and pillaging because they're utterly incapable of knowing right from wrong without some farsical father figure telling them how to act. |
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GoManVanGogh
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Fucking animals is one of those things like say... dipping babies in acid. You shouldn't need an advanced moral system or scripture to spell it out to know it's just plain fucking wrong!
Dude, have you ever read the Old Testament? It reads like Caligula's self-insertion porn. Infanticide is the LEAST of horrendous acts God commands from his followers in his name.
But you go ahead and tell me how Christianity and Judaism are better than Islam. |
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Cephus
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Posted: 9/14/2005 6:39:31 PM
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Dude, have you ever read the Old Testament? It reads like Caligula's self-insertion porn. Infanticide is the LEAST of horrendous acts God commands from his followers in his name.
But you go ahead and tell me how Christianity and Judaism are better than Islam.
Christianity and Judiasm are no better than Islam, Islam is just younger. It's doing a lot of the same things today that Christianity and Judiasm did a thousand years ago or more. Actually, I'd say that Islam is a lot better than Christianity and Judiasm as far as restraint is concerned. You don't see Muslims out genociding entire nations like the Jews supposedly did in the OT. |
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Monkey King
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Posted: 9/14/2005 7:20:28 PM
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Fucking animals is one of those things like say... dipping babies in acid. You shouldn't need an advanced moral system or scripture to spell it out to know it's just plain fucking wrong!
You obviously have never talked to a lot of these Christians. They'll tell you that if it wasn't for God telling them what to do, they'd be out raping, murdering and pillaging because they're utterly incapable of knowing right from wrong without some farsical father figure telling them how to act.
I thought Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden because they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thus learning right from wrong. I love how Christians refuse to read and comprehend their own book. |
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Cephus
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Posted: 9/14/2005 9:59:52 PM
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I thought Adam and Eve got kicked out of the Garden of Eden because they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thus learning right from wrong. I love how Christians refuse to read and comprehend their own book.
Adam and Eve might have figured it out, but God never did, considering God and all his followers thereafter raped, pillaged and murdered half the people they came across. And let's not forget God genociding the entire planet with that little flood of his.
How Christians can follow that self-centered sadistic bastard is beyond me. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 9/14/2005 10:20:36 PM
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I'm agnostic since I can't technically prove God doesn't exist plus it would be really depressing if there is no greater meaning to existence (so very very depressing). I was raised christian and My personal view is that for christianity to continue to be viable in modern times it needs to just disregard the old testament (jesus said to do that more or less anyway).
As it is the old testament is just a chronical of humanities fears and prejudices with a little history and ancient law thrown in. The thing is the bible isn't even one book it's a collection of books often seperated by hundreds of years, at some point someone arbitrarily decided what religious writings to include in this "definitive" guide to faith and from that point forward if you had a problem with it you get called a heretic or blasphemer. |
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Dr. Dos
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Posted: 9/14/2005 11:43:53 PM
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Let's make a Neotestament and just add in various Chicken Soup for the Soul books. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 9/14/2005 11:50:18 PM
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Let's make a Neotestament and just add in various Chicken Soup for the Soul books. That would be grand.
I live in Tennessee which includes Ray county the site of the Scopes trial, that episode of the daily show scared me shitless. |
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Dr. Dos
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Posted: 9/15/2005 1:08:54 AM
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oh god.
My father's been taping it and I've been watching them. That was frightening.
You sure showed those evolutionists in the trial you lost :( |
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AngryPuritan
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Posted: 9/15/2005 3:24:13 AM
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blah blah
But you go ahead and tell me how Christianity and Judaism are better than Islam.
Firstly, I am tired of saying this but the username, location quote and persona is all a fucking gag.
Islamic nations used to be the hub of learning, scholarship and science in the dark ages of Christianity. Sadly, one person's 'religious resurgence' is another's grand dumbing for jihad. Conclusion; give or take a millenia, and the Christians will be the zealots hiding in caves and flying planes into buildings. |
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GoManVanGogh
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Posted: 9/15/2005 5:47:57 PM
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blah blah
But you go ahead and tell me how Christianity and Judaism are better than Islam.
Firstly, I am tired of saying this but the username, location quote and persona is all a fucking gag.
I was using "you" in the rhetorical sense. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 9/15/2005 6:37:47 PM
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oh god.
My father's been taping it and I've been watching them. That was frightening.
You sure showed those evolutionists in the trial you lost :(
Actually Scopes was convicted
Oh and did you see the little part at the end? I had forgotten about this (okay suppressed) but Ray county recently tried to pass legislation barring gays from living in ray county, and in the event that it was discovered that you were gay you would be tried for crimes against nature. God why is this my home state, what's worse is that the KKK
was also founded in Tennessee. |
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Monkey King
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Posted: 9/15/2005 8:05:46 PM
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Tennessee is really amazing. So much important American history happened here... and NONE of it is anything to be proud of, past or present. The Civil War, Andrew Jackson, the Scopes trial, country music. About the only good thing Tennessee has done for the country has been to supply the army with lots of soldiers. That and it's one of the few states with a state flag that isn't stupid looking. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 9/15/2005 9:37:44 PM
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Andrew Jackson.
Ah Jay Naylor's hero. |
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Cephus
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Posted: 9/15/2005 11:16:07 PM
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Actually Scopes was convicted
Scopes was found guilty but was let off on a technicality. It wasn't that there was any question of his guilt going into it, he freely admitted that he taught evolution. The fundamentalists made sure he was never jailed for it though because in any appeal, the Constitutionality of the law would have been called into question and they knew they couldn't survive that. |
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peppersprayed
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Posted: 9/15/2005 11:40:31 PM
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Actually Scopes was convicted
Scopes was found guilty but was let off on a technicality. It wasn't that there was any question of his guilt going into it, he freely admitted that he taught evolution. The fundamentalists made sure he was never jailed for it though because in any appeal, the Constitutionality of the law would have been called into question and they knew they couldn't survive that.
He got a $100 fine. |
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