Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Furry comics are a wealth of information about how the world works! Here are just a few things I've learned and where I've learned them from:

War

The latest arc of Jack was just so, so, dull (sappy songs and romance in the middle of a war!) that I went back at random intervals just to see if it was over. I just didn't see how that could go on for very long and yet 35 pages later, it's still going.

And on page 34, things took a turn from being dull to being fucked up.

First, we're reminded that atheists have no place in the armed forces! Yep, it's OK to kill if God is on your side. And then, we get a nice rant justifying war. Now...wait a minute, where have I seen this before? In Better Days, of course. Well, at least Naylor didn't bring God into the picture. :P

At any rate, as I can clearly see from both comics, war and killing is all peachy keen as long as you're on the right side. And of course, you always are.

Female Sexuality

I realize furry is a male-dominated fandom and I'm beginning to understand why. You see, females aren't supposed to be sexual. If they are, that means that they have a fucked up childhood.

In Better Days, the psychologist assures Mrs. Black not to be worried about her son's sexual development, but she is concerned about the girl.

In Sabrina Online, Zigzag offhandedly mentions her tragic past. I realize that her tragic past is accounted in further detail by her creator elsewhere online, but that's not in comic form. ;)

Thus, it's easy to figure out that there aren't as many female furries as their are male furries because females just aren't supposed to be sexual.

So, what things have you learned from furry comics? Please note that I am not genuinely expecting comics to be realistic or anything like that, but I just think it's weird when they match up like that.

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

Fucking cures everything!

EVERYTHING!

Goofy · Vociferator Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 311

Sabrina Online taught me that Amigas are not out-of-date.

HAHAHAHA! OH SCHWARTZ, YOU ZANY FUNSTER! :lol:

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Reading Jack I realized that it was a fucked up comic, then I became very sad when I realized it was still less fucked up than the actual old testiment.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Fucking cures everything!

EVERYTHING!

Been reading Kit n Kay Boodle?

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

Fucking cures everything!

EVERYTHING!

Been reading Kit n Kay Boodle?

"Endured" is a better word.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

I've learned that in a 'furry universe', your species would be defined by something as arbitrary as your religion, and that it's A-OK to bang your sister.

Oh, and that an STD is "worse than kittens" :lol:

creature · Vociferator Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 520

Reading ASB taught me that even straight guys are a little gay and being gay makes you better no matter what.

Tailgunner · Vociferator Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 327

Sorry, but, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is ASB?

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Sabrina Online:
-It doesn't matter if it's your first date with some guy you met online...any time is right for the fuckin'!

-It's not fanservice if the pants just make her LOOK naked from the waist down!

Better Days:
-Anything can be solved with a baseball bat, incestual sex, or right-wing politics!

-Black people are thugs!

-GUNS R KOOL

Kit 'n' Kay Boodle
-SEX=EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING=SEX.

-Mother In-Laws aren't all that bad.

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

First post, awww

Better Days

-Black people talk funee ("My Sister's Keeper")
-You can be a single mom with no job and live comfortably, but a single, employed man can't ("Armed and Amorous").
-America rox!
-Even if you never met your dad, honor him and pretend he was equal to Jesus, but think lowly of your mom who raised you and your sibling by herself for 10 + years.
-There can be cat people and dog people, and someone owns pet dogs (that second one I think)
-"Women's brains get smaller as their hips get bigger"

Jack

-Just THINKING about doing something sinful will get you to Hell
-Even if you lived a wholesome and sin-free life, commiting suicide due to having something traumatizing happen is a one-way ticket to Hell
-stories about someone dying in the hospital bed are exciting
-bug and mammal people can procreate
-if you're the biggest asshole in the world, you'll be rewarded by being a powerful, manipulative sin in death

Goofy · Vociferator Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 311

Furry comics in general have taught me not to read furry comics.

Mastertran · Venter Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 275

Gene Catlow taught me that I never have "had" paddlefruit before.

Sinclair · Prattler Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 125

Better Days:
-You too can make Art Spiegelman cry!
-Fuckin' librul teachers are stuffin' the kids' heads fulla commie propaganda!
-Fucking your sister makes her dumb, or at least seriously affects her judgement!

Kit'n'Kay Boodle:
-Amor omnia vincit! But only when it's accompanied with a great deal of sex.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Sorry, but, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is ASB?

Associated Student Bodies. Mat Sherer nails very well what ASB is like here.

Cephus · Prattler Joined: 19 May 2005 Posts: 107

Furry comics in general have taught me not to read furry comics.

You can say that again. There was a time when I actually bothered to read furry comics, but those days are long, long gone. It's all utter crap, why would I waste my time or money choking down that garbage?

It isn't bad enough that furries can't draw worth shit, they sure the hell can't write either.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I learned that males rarely stay that way. They change via either magic or hedgetrimmers.

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

I learned that males rarely stay that way. They change via either magic or hedgetrimmers.

Don't forget alien technology!

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

I have learned that condoms and birth control pills have been rendered useless through boinkberries.

Also machines that turn you into a vixen actually smash you with a hammer.

Evil · Rasophore Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 62

Furry webcomics have taught me that it's way, way, way too fucking easy to use the internet.

Ruphia · Qualificator Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

Furry comics have taught me that once you see some shit, you can't un-see it. My poor brain.

Also, they've taught me that no matter what continent an animal is from, when anthro it will talk like a 14-28 year old white person.

Unless it is a hyena.

bobby · Prattler Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 167

Also machines that turn you into a vixen actually smash you with a hammer.

10 years later, Groat's jokes still aren't funny.

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

If you suck enough e-penis and put your friends in the comics, you don't even need to write the comic anymore - guest art and guest comics will be the only thing that show up anymore.

Oh, and no matter how disturbing you are, no matter how stupid your logic is, and no matter how afraid you are of meeting your critics in person, they're idiot fascist gay breeder hyooman left-wing right-wing heterosexual homosexual asexual idiots.

herms are cool, even though they mostly suffer terribly due to the fact that they can't bear children and most can't get it up due to malfunctioning hormones, but FUCK IT! WE NEED PORN PORN PORN PORN.

Exploiting people for my own sexual perversions is okay, because I have the physical ability to post words on the internet, making me better then everyone.

Crushyiffdestroy is filled with ignoramuses and they secretly work with SomethingAwful and Portal of Evil in a horrible alliance known as the LEGION OF MONOLITHIC ANTI FURRIES. It is the purpose of the legion to align their infamous forces against the powers of good and defeat them, leaving them the rulers of the internet. To accomplish this, they have assembled the most lethal group of villains consisting of Micah (with the power of art skills), Lowtax (with the power of Goon summoning), and of course Donotsue, with the power to induce overpowering gay love in his opponents.

5thehardway · Prattler Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 161

To accomplish this, they have assembled the most lethal group of villains consisting of Micah (with the power of art skills), Lowtax (with the power of Goon summoning), and of course Donotsue, with the power to induce overpowering gay love in his opponents.

I'd give up my Galaxy season tickets to see Micah form an unholy alliance with Lowtax. I'm sure she'd take grave exception to that idea, however. XD

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 658

LEGION OF MONOLITHIC ANTI FURRIES

sorry

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

That ASB is a fap comic that will for some ungodly reason always be seen by the bisexual and gay furs as the Holy Wit and better yet, something to take to heart.

That there's really about four "furry" comics worth spending money on.

That if Shanda wasn't centered and stapled to the subject of Hetro/Homo sexxors and the drama that comes from it, it would have vanished years ago.

That the most beloved and lusted after online comics by furries aren't allways furries. (Sluggy loved by furs? God help the fandom when someone does some Bunbun gay porn, motherfuckers!)

That most online furry comics badly, badly want to get a following to match Penny Arcade's, so said artist/writer can sit on his stuff and make monies from ads.

That a comic about hermy dragon gaymales having babies and living in a zany house is stupid and the strips were so filled with furry in-jokes as to make me want to kill.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

there's really about four "furry" comics worth spending money on.

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and those would be?

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

there's really about four "furry" comics worth spending money on.

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and those would be?

I should have added "IMHO" because I got disgusted with furry comics in large a long time ago. Only comic I pay for now is Shawntae's book.

If you take the Sibe outlook, you don't need to pay for a damned thing, every furry comic in print will be on a torrent by the end of the day it hits stores.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

there's really about four "furry" comics worth spending money on.

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and those would be?

I should have added "IMHO" because I got disgusted with furry comics in large a long time ago. Only comic I pay for now is Shawntae's book.

If you take the Sibe outlook, you don't need to pay for a damned thing, every furry comic in print will be on a torrent by the end of the day it hits stores.

I was thinking web comics.

But then again why would you pay for web comics?

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

Better Days:
Fucking your sister is okay as long as you love each other.

Jack:
Hopkins is out of ideas.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

Mitch wins the internets. All of them. Forever.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

I'd give up my Galaxy season tickets to see Micah form an unholy alliance with Lowtax. I'm sure she'd take grave exception to that idea, however. XD

Which idea, the Lowtax alliance or you giving up your season tickets?

PS: I like Mitch's new costum title.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

In general, in furry comics, I've learned people with animal heads are supposed to be irresistibly sexy.

I've also read the first of those 'zines Furnation edited a while ago and learned that werewolves are gay and the 'camera' on those comics is always strategically placed so you can see the gay werevolves' ass regardless of the plot -if any-.

Reading Kit'n'Kay Boodle, I've learned that I don't find cartoony foxes sexy and, should I wanted it so, I could make a REALLY funny sexual cartoony comic. But I don't want to.

I've learned that laughable situations affecting the author of a comic are still laughable when the author tries to do its best to portray them on a comic.

Reading other comics, I've learned there are people out there who STILL enjoy funny animals without giving them all kind of unnecesary moral/sexual/psychological loads to burden their backs.

Reading Gonterman's comics, I learned that comics can be ideal -albeit unintentional- vehicles to unveil the author's twisted and eerie mind, despite lack of narrative skills and graphical ability.

I've also learned that the good thing about comics on the Internet is that anybody willing to do a comic online could do it. And the bad thing is that anybody willing to do a comic online does it.

Sinclair · Prattler Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 125

I forgot to mention that Kit'n'Kay Boodle taught me that adultery apparently doesn't really exist in a town where everybody walks around naked and fucks constantly.

SkunkDogFromSpace · Venter Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 222

Haha :D this topic rocks.
And I'm too dizzy to write anything.. *still tries to*

from JACK I've learned;

Hell is not that bad place after all

You don't need any kind of artistic skills to get famous and adored

from KIT N' KAY I've learned;

Furries suck big, slimy, floppy donkey cock.. BUT THEY LIKE IT GODDAMIT ARGH!

I think that's it D: I really haven't read any more furry comics. Those I found when they were linked from this site..

*EDIT*
OH YEAH! And everyone's gay.. deep donw in their soul.. or ass

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

Reading other comics, I've learned there are people out there who STILL enjoy funny animals without giving them all kind of unnecesary moral/sexual/psychological loads to burden their backs.

I'm sorry, but you lost me at "Why is it so hard 2 follow a simple dream"?
I'll stick with Ozy and Millie.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Reading other comics, I've learned there are people out there who STILL enjoy funny animals without giving them all kind of unnecesary moral/sexual/psychological loads to burden their backs.

I'm sorry, but you lost me at "Why is it so hard 2 follow a simple dream"?
I'll stick with Ozy and Millie.

As far as furry comics I think are good I've only come across VG Cats and Ozy and Millie. Are there any others worth reading for any other reason than trainwreck syndrome?

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

Yeah using 4 and 2 as words made me lose interest.

One of you people here linked http://www.drunkduck.com/3_Minutes_Happiness/index.php which is a good comic which hasn't been updating :(

http://newshounds.com/ Newshounds has a few really awesome ones and is pretty good.

http://thebunnysystem.com/ The Bunny System has a weird style but has some awesome strips.

http://www.furry.org.au/fz/ Fuzzy Things has pretty lousy writing and plots, but I really like the art style.

http://www.cigarro.ca/main.php?page_index=comic Cigarro & Cerveja is somebody's avatar here, and is quite awesome.

http://www.vincifruit.com/ Vinci and Arty is mostly cheap puns but a few made me laugh.

Commander Kitty was also awesome, but is no longer up.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

One of you people here linked http://www.drunkduck.com/3_Minutes_Happiness/index.php which is a good comic which hasn't been updating :(

Yeah, I made a post about it in the ol' LJ a while back. It's funny, but I must withdraw my endorsement of it. Why is it that, whenever I have the misfortune of teaming up with a furry artist, they inevitably piss me off to an unbelievable extent within 6 months? :roll:

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Reading other comics, I've learned there are people out there who STILL enjoy funny animals without giving them all kind of unnecesary moral/sexual/psychological loads to burden their backs.

I'm sorry, but you lost me at "Why is it so hard 2 follow a simple dream"?
I'll stick with Ozy and Millie.

As far as furry comics I think are good I've only come across VG Cats and Ozy and Millie. Are there any others worth reading for any other reason than trainwreck syndrome?

I don't think of Ozy and Millie as furry. If D.C. Simpson ever was involved in furry fandom, he certainly isn't any more. Ozy and Millie isn't any more furry than, say, Over the Hedge, i.e. not at all.

There's plenty of good funny animal comics out there, one just has to look outside furry fandom. A few examples: Blacksad, Lapinot, Rocky, to name but three. And there's a few borderline cases where an author "admits" to be furry, but his/her comic really isn't, e.g. Good Cheese.

Don't lose your sense of proportions, people; furry is a tiny thing, it hasn't destroyed the funny animal genre, all it's done is add some fucked up material to the fringes of it - material that most funny animal readers aren't aware of or simply ignore because it's crud.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Reading other comics, I've learned there are people out there who STILL enjoy funny animals without giving them all kind of unnecesary moral/sexual/psychological loads to burden their backs.

I'm sorry, but you lost me at "Why is it so hard 2 follow a simple dream"?
I'll stick with Ozy and Millie.

As far as furry comics I think are good I've only come across VG Cats and Ozy and Millie. Are there any others worth reading for any other reason than trainwreck syndrome?

I don't think of Ozy and Millie as furry. If D.C. Simpson ever was involved in furry fandom, he certainly isn't any more. Ozy and Millie isn't any more furry than, say, Over the Hedge, i.e. not at all.

There's plenty of good funny animal comics out there, one just has to look outside furry fandom. A few examples: Blacksad, Lapinot, Rocky, to name but three. And there's a few borderline cases where an author "admits" to be furry, but his/her comic really isn't, e.g. Good Cheese.

Don't lose your sense of proportions, people; furry is a tiny thing, it hasn't destroyed the funny animal genre, all it's done is add some fucked up material to the fringes of it - material that most funny animal readers aren't aware of or simply ignore because it's crud.

Well I should have said anthropomorphic (and it does make a point of bringing it up) but furry was just easier to say (and a bit reflexive).

Oh and did someone say something about the author drawing himself as a dragon?

I sort of refered to it as furry in the "before the whole thing went batshit" sense.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

Oh and did someone say something about the author drawing hirself as a dragon?

FIXED.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

Oh and did someone say something about the author drawing hirself as a dragon?

FIXED.

David Craig Simpson is not a hermaphrodite.

What's wrong, little furry? Did he balk at your request to draw a yiff scene with you and Timulty?

You people really are a waste of stem cells... You really are.

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

DC Simpson is the man.

He is not a fan of furries after seeing what they did to his characters, which is exactly what they did to everybody's characters, attach dicks to them.

And yeah he uses a dragon avatar all the time.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

DC Simpson is the man.

He is not a fan of furries after seeing what they did to his characters, which is exactly what they did to everybody's characters, attach dicks to them.

And yeah he uses a dragon avatar all the time.

Fair enough.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

I have never learned anything from furry web comics. This is because i know better than to read them.

Dr. Mojo · Vociferator Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 399

I've learned that it's okay to love my sister. Physically.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I really enjoyed Purple Pussy...although It doesn't qualify as a furry comic, IMO, it was worth mentioning because of all of those angry OMG-SHMORKY-CHEATED-ON-US bandwagon furtards who were pissed over his Foody storyline (which was classic)...
...and I know I'm going to get the hell flamed out of me for this, but I find Ozy and Millie to be rather overrated.

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

Like Ray Jones.

Mr. Apricot Nipples will forever live on in infamy. As for the comic, well...

ZZZZZZZZZ

I'm sorry, but Tom Clancy and Disney Afternoon don't mix. The author might have though he was going to get a pop-rocks and pepsi explosion of excitement, but when I read it, it felt more like I was mixing alcohol and medication.

EDIT: Dammit, I screwed up, and I really don't feel like going through a whole bunch of corrections. The above was meant for the Rescue Rangers topic.

I learned that humans are complete idiots who don't notice the blatantly obvious and need the furries' help to get anything done. (I think I'd notice a little mouse in suspenders and wearing goggles. That kind of sticks out.)
Summarised version: DUR HYOOMANS ARE DUMB LOLZ. FURRIES ROOL.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Like Ray Jones.

Mr. Apricot Nipples will forever live on in infamy. As for the comic, well...

ZZZZZZZZZ

I'm sorry, but Tom Clancy and Disney Afternoon don't mix. The author might have though he was going to get a pop-rocks and pepsi explosion of excitement, but when I read it, it felt more like I was mixing alcohol and medication.

Back to the topic, I learned that humans are complete idiots who don't notice the blatantly obvious and need the furries' help to get anything done. (I think I'd notice a little mouse in suspenders and wearing goggles. That kind of sticks out.)
Summarised version: DUR HYOOMANS ARE DUMB LOLZ. FURRIES ROOL.

WRONG THREAD AM I RITE? lolzzz
Good stuff though.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

...and I know I'm going to get the hell flamed out of me for this, but I find Ozy and Millie to be rather overrated.

Overrated? How do you figure? It's not like it's that well known outside a certain internet sub-culture.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

...and I know I'm going to get the hell flamed out of me for this, but I find Ozy and Millie to be rather overrated.

Overrated? How do you figure? It's not like it's that well known outside a certain internet sub-culture.

I know alot of non-furries who love that comic...and to me, personally, it's not as great as it's made out to be...it's OK. I can tolerate it, and enjoy it once in a while. IMO, political cartoons should be the one-panel kind you see in TIME...not woven throughout a comic, ala Better Days/Ozy and Millie.
Ozy and Millie has it's moments when it's funny and thought provoking, but the praise everyone seems to lavish on it is a bit much.
Plus, the porn. Oh god, the porn.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

Kit 'n' Kay Boodle:

- There is no God
- Mankind is doomed
- A nuclear war would actually benefit the planet
- Ghosts can be exorcised by SEX (why didn't they think about that in Poltergeist?)

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

I agree with The Cap'n here, but for completely different reasons.

Anything that becomes popular inevitably becomes overrated via the actions if its fanbase. That's not necessarily a -bad- thing, it's just how popularity works.

I would only consider O&M to be 'overrated' in the past couple years. When I first started reading it, I thought it was great - Simpson weaved through some interesting and funny storylines (like the alt. universe in the couch cushions), and the politics were only particularly noticable if you went looking for them (iow, easy to ignore). Lately, though, it hasn't really...gone anywhere. It seems, to me at least, to have reverted to a simple gag strip, except the punchlines aren't really that funny anymore. I understand that the author has recently gone through a rather drawn-out stressful period of moving, and I realize that not every comic has a solid "one-story-arc-to-the-next" kind of chronology. So, I'll keep reading it, as I have enjoyed it in the past and hold out hope that Simpson will work up another fun story arc soon.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Ozy and Millie has it's moments when it's funny and thought provoking, but the praise everyone seems to lavish on it is a bit much.
Plus, the porn. Oh god, the porn.

I agree with The Cap'n here, but for completely different reasons.

Anything that becomes popular inevitably becomes overrated via the actions if its fanbase. That's not necessarily a -bad- thing, it's just how popularity works.

What does this have to do with anything? It's not D.C. Simpson's fault that some furry dipshits make porn with his characters. And it's not his fault either if someone claims Ozy and Millie as the best thing ever. IMO it's an enjoyable and well-drawn comic - nothing more, nothing less. You like to read a specific comic, or you don't - I don't see why or even how your enjoyment of a comic could be ruined by someone going overboard with praise for it, or drawing porn with the characters. I've read statements like "I can't watch Disney's "Robin Hood" anymore because of all the furry porn" several times, and I don't understand that at all.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I really enjoyed Purple Pussy...although It doesn't qualify as a furry comic, IMO, it was worth mentioning because of all of those angry OMG-SHMORKY-CHEATED-ON-US bandwagon furtards who were pissed over his Foody storyline (which was classic)...
...and I know I'm going to get the hell flamed out of me for this, but I find Ozy and Millie to be rather overrated.

I really liked Purple Pussy too as well as Lizard and Living in Greytown and Awesome Gamerz. Actually, most of Dave Kelly's comics to me were very enjoyable. I still kind of wish he were still doing a regular comic, but at least there's the flash tub.

MagKnightX · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 415

Fur Will Fly:
-Ain't nothing wrong with a man getting his bone on with a mouse.
-If your artwork is crap, and your writing is crap, then your comic will be crap, but people will still flock to it like seagulls to a loaf of bread.

Better Days:
-Incest is best, put your sister to the test.
-Just like in Maus, mice are all Jews.
-Being sexxay helps you shoot better.

Kevin and Kell (also Suburban Jungle):
-Eating people is all well and proper in a polite society.

Kit n' Kay Boodle:
-If all mankind would just openly run around fucking everything, the world would be a peaceful and happy place.
-Mothers like seeing their daughters and selves represented as mutant animals and defiled six ways from sunday.

Jack:
-If you live a pure and virtuous life, watch out, because you're probably going to go to hell anyway.
-Fetuses all go to hell, but it's okay for them.
-A mass murderer is really just a sweet old guy on the inside, even if he does become the embodiment of a sin.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

Kevin and Kell (also Suburban Jungle):
-Eating people is all well and proper in a polite society.

Now hold on. First of all, Kevin and Kell is NOT a furry comic. Secondly, it only uses the fact that characters eat each other for the purpose of absurd humor, and as a way to thumb it's nose to the classical "funny animal" genre.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

What does this have to do with anything?

My apologies, I didn't mean to imply I no longer enjoyed the comic due to its popularity. My second line there was meant to convey that everything popular inevitably becomes 'overrated', but it was late, and the context didn't come out properly.

I certainly don't fault Simpson or the comic for its popularity. I was just trying to point out that the comic -WAS- great when I first started reading it, but as of late, it's gone downhill IMO, and is no longer as good as it was. Conversely, it's become more popular, so the number of people hyping it has increased, while the quality has decreased (or at least, failed to remain constant). See also: User Friendly.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I've just found a new one, Faux Pas. It overuses some jokes, but I find it still above par for most webcomics, and the art style doesn't completely suck, in fact, it's rather enjoyable. I found it on a link from a furry's personal webpage, but haven't been able to determine if the author is indeed a furry. It deals with foxes, daft/cruel humans and sexual tension. So I wouldn't be surprised either way.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I've just found a new one, Faux Pas. It overuses some jokes, but I find it still above par for most webcomics, and the art style doesn't completely suck, in fact, it's rather enjoyable. I found it on a link from a furry's personal webpage, but haven't been able to determine if the author is indeed a furry. It deals with foxes, daft/cruel humans and sexual tension. So I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Well it links straight to the Belfry and todays link is DMFA

So I'm going to say yes.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

I've just found a new one, Faux Pas. It overuses some jokes, but I find it still above par for most webcomics, and the art style doesn't completely suck, in fact, it's rather enjoyable. I found it on a link from a furry's personal webpage, but haven't been able to determine if the author is indeed a furry. It deals with foxes, daft/cruel humans and sexual tension. So I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Robert & Margaret Carspecken have been on the furry fandom for a long time, though their interest for it have gradually faded away.

They also belong to the generation of good artists who were chased away from the fandom when it started to get insane.

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

Now hold on. First of all, Kevin and Kell is NOT a furry comic. Secondly, it only uses the fact that characters eat each other for the purpose of absurd humor, and as a way to thumb it's nose to the classical "funny animal" genre.

But it's not funny, so it's an "animal" comic. It is professional tho. Anything with jokes that bland are hard to find outside of newspapers.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

You like to read a specific comic, or you don't - I don't see why or even how your enjoyment of a comic could be ruined by someone going overboard with praise for it, or drawing porn with the characters. I've read statements like "I can't watch Disney's "Robin Hood" anymore because of all the furry porn" several times, and I don't understand that at all.

The porn isn't what turned me off from it. It's the fact that, in my opinion, I don't find it to be as great as it's made out to be. The porn statement was in reference to some of my furry friends who call me an idiot for not liking Ozy and Millie...I should have made that more clear, I reckon.

'Faux Paws'...the art is really nice, IMO, but, as you said, the jokes are overused. Still a cute comic, though.
Speaking of fox comics...I really enjoy the 'Vicki Fox' comics. They're well drawn, and have simple, but interesting story arcs.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Anything with jokes that bland are hard to find outside of newspapers.

Haven't you read The New Meat's article on In a Perfect World? :wink:

Doom · Rasophore Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 56

I think that if typical webcomic creators didn't do cut-and-paste rush jobs on their panels, they'd have more time to come up with worthwhile material to put in those speech bubbles. Has anyone else seen a correlation between copying the same pictures to different panels (usually the only variation being that the mouth is either open or closed) and the jokes or plot development being bland and impotent?

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

I think that if typical webcomic creators didn't do cut-and-paste rush jobs on their panels, they'd have more time to come up with worthwhile material to put in those speech bubbles. Has anyone else seen a correlation between copying the same pictures to different panels (usually the only variation being that the mouth is either open or closed) and the jokes or plot development being bland and impotent?

Lazy artist and lazy writer.

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

Drawing simple black and white comics is hard so only do two a month.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Being the aforementioned Cigarro and Cerveja fan, obviously I'm going to recommend it. I don't think it's furry so much as it is funny animals in adult situations. Has a neat underground comic vibe to it. It's hilarious.

I haven't followed it lately since I'm a couple months behind, but I'm partial to Funny Farm. Last I checked it kind of got bogged down with serious plot stuff so it's not as funny as it used to be. It's still pretty good for a chuckle though, and the archives are worth going through. I understand the author is not a furry, and only found out about the subculture once he started attracting fans who thought he was.

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

Anything with jokes that bland are hard to find outside of newspapers.

Haven't you read The New Meat's article on In a Perfect World? :wink:

Heh, Just read a few of those. It's interesting that there where a few (and I stress the word "few") good joke ideas in there but they where completely shot down by the shitty writing.

It really is "how you tell them".

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

Is Norm and Cory furry then?

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

I learned from VG Cats that furries are pretty much reviled everywhere.
I learned from Mac Hall that furries are socially damaged and not above asking for porn from anyone.
I learned from Sluggy that Bill Holbrook is, really, a damn dirty furry. And that you can't go eight years without at least one joke at their expense.
I learned from Nuklear Power that even comics about damn Final Fantasy sprites can't stand furry porn.
I learned from Sinfest that the nicest guys on the Internet still need to sink to name calling when furries are involved.

Oh, what did I learn from furry webcomics?

That furry webcomics suck.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I've learned from Penny Arcade and PVP that too many furries will cry soulrape if someone else says that they don't like furry stuff (especially if that someone is a professional in the comics industry).

TBPBenni · Qualificator Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 8

Boston and Shaun taught me that scanners and FTP software are indeed easy enough for a monkey to operate.

Latex Blue taught me that when somebody gives you a link, you should ask them what it is before you click. Friends don't let friends read Latex Blue.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Latex Blue taught me that when somebody gives you a link, you should ask them what it is before you click. Friends don't let friends read Latex Blue.

Ahaha. The devil in me has always wanted to ambush somebody with a link to that.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

I learned from VG Cats that furries are pretty much reviled everywhere.
I learned from Mac Hall that furries are socially damaged and not above asking for porn from anyone.
I learned from Sluggy that Bill Holbrook is, really, a damn dirty furry. And that you can't go eight years without at least one joke at their expense.
I learned from Nuklear Power that even comics about damn Final Fantasy sprites can't stand furry porn.
I learned from Sinfest that the nicest guys on the Internet still need to sink to name calling when furries are involved.

Links, puh-lee-uhz?

The New Meat · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 933

I learned that dragons make everything worse.

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

I learned from VG Cats that furries are pretty much reviled everywhere.
I learned from Mac Hall that furries are socially damaged and not above asking for porn from anyone.
I learned from Sluggy that Bill Holbrook is, really, a damn dirty furry. And that you can't go eight years without at least one joke at their expense.
I learned from Nuklear Power that even comics about damn Final Fantasy sprites can't stand furry porn.
I learned from Sinfest that the nicest guys on the Internet still need to sink to name calling when furries are involved.

Links, puh-lee-uhz?

http://vgcats.com
http://machhall.com
http://google.com
http://www.nuklearpower.com/
http://sinfest.net

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I learned that dragons make everything worse.

Hmm I always thought dragons flew, dealt 5 damage, and had useful effects upon death.

I am the worlds biggest loser.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

I learned from VG Cats that furries are pretty much reviled everywhere.
I learned from Mac Hall that furries are socially damaged and not above asking for porn from anyone.
I learned from Sluggy that Bill Holbrook is, really, a damn dirty furry. And that you can't go eight years without at least one joke at their expense.
I learned from Nuklear Power that even comics about damn Final Fantasy sprites can't stand furry porn.
I learned from Sinfest that the nicest guys on the Internet still need to sink to name calling when furries are involved.

Links, puh-lee-uhz?

http://vgcats.com
http://machhall.com
http://google.com
http://www.nuklearpower.com/
http://sinfest.net

To the particular strips in question, puh-lee-uhz?

TBPBenni · Qualificator Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 8

I learned that dragons make everything worse.

Hmm I always thought dragons flew, dealt 5 damage, and had useful effects upon death.
(Many Spaces later...)
I am the worlds biggest loser.

Just when I didn't think that furry could get any less sane, you had drag -that- into it. =)

...I demand aspirin.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I learned that dragons make everything worse.

Hmm I always thought dragons flew, dealt 5 damage, and had useful effects upon death.
(Many Spaces later...)
I am the worlds biggest loser.

Just when I didn't think that furry could get any less sane, you had drag -that- into it. =)

...I demand aspirin.

There are Magic playing furries...... I am not one of them.

Just to clarify I play Magic.

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

http://sinfest.net/d/20050725.html

That's all I'll be able to find right away since it was recent. I believe the fan section of VGCats has a comic by the guy who did some VGCats porn.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

http://sinfest.net/d/20050725.html

That's all I'll be able to find right away since it was recent. I believe the fan section of VGCats has a comic by the guy who did some VGCats porn.

Is it just me, or is that incredibly.... dull?

Almost like reading a proper newspaper comic. Non-descript enough to to offend anyone (except for maybe the furry community).

Jerry Collins · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 548

Misery,pain,and idiotcy..yup,that about covers it.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

Sinfest is actually included in the norwegian edition of The Far Side, they've got a coupla pages of Sinfest in every issue. Makes me chuckle now and then, although the translation is absymal at best.

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

http://sinfest.net/d/20050725.html

That's all I'll be able to find right away since it was recent. I believe the fan section of VGCats has a comic by the guy who did some VGCats porn.

San, Mister "OMG YOU FUCKING PERVERTS, wait I need cash.. SEND ME MONEY, YOU FUCKING PERVERTS"

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

I've learned from Penny Arcade and PVP that too many furries will cry soulrape if someone else says that they don't like furry stuff (especially if that someone is a professional in the comics industry).

GABE OWZ FURRIES. LOL

I was there for that comic. Man, a shame I didn't think to take screen shots of the warm welcome the furries got after wearing out their welcome in SE and G&T within a half hour of "OMG HOW DARE YOU MOCK OUR LIFESTYLES. WE ARE GAMERS TOO, WE ARE NEVER READING AGAIN!" posts showing up EVERYWHERE. Simba (The Funday Pawpet one) was like the only fucking civil one.

And oddly enough, I'm sure Xxyex signed up there too before Doctor D, RX97 or one of the other mods banned him.

My goal in life is to get a commission out of Gabe with the names of all the big name ego inflated artists on it and something like him shooting the bird with the tag line "I'm still bettter then all of you.."

creature · Vociferator Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 520

Yeah. Simba is a good guy and usually pretty level headed. Hell, he makes fun of just about anyone that deserves it.

creature · Vociferator Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 520

Oh! I also learned from furry comics that sex on the first meeting (much less the first date) is the fondation for a lasting relationship.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Oh! I also learned from furry comics that sex on the first meeting (much less the first date) is the fondation for a lasting relationship.

Sabrina Online?
Anyways, this Simba dude...didn't he post here at one time? Defending Herbie Bearclaw, or something?

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

Oh! I also learned from furry comics that sex on the first meeting (much less the first date) is the fondation for a lasting relationship.

Sabrina Online?
Anyways, this Simba dude...didn't he post here at one time? Defending Herbie Bearclaw, or something?

He did. I think around the time that Herbie got exposed for cub art.

creature · Vociferator Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 520

Oh! I also learned from furry comics that sex on the first meeting (much less the first date) is the fondation for a lasting relationship.

Sabrina Online?
Anyways, this Simba dude...didn't he post here at one time? Defending Herbie Bearclaw, or something?

Sabrina to name one. I can't remember the others off the top of my head.

He probably did. I think this was about the time Disney let go of 99% of their Florida art crew and Herbie needed money to pay rent or something. Took what he could get, you know?

comicartist42 · Qualificator Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

I have learned (from actually DRAWING comics) that no matter how much you swear up and down that your comic featuring animal-people is not really "furry" (as in, not specifically done for the enjoyment and fapfapness of teh fandom, omgz!), no matter how deep and thoughtful you try to be, and no matter how non-sexual your characters are...

People (i.e., furry fanboi/girl/whatsits) will stil have dirty little fantasies about every character from your personal, deep, thoughful, and pseduo-morally-positive comic hooking up with every other character from the comic in a gigantic "love dodecahedron". And your closest friends will draw pr0n about it, making you feel so dirty inside that it makes you hate all things "furry" forever and ever.

>_>

Yes, I AM bitter. Deal with it.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

One would ask the egg, if they had any examples of their craft, as you have greatly intrigued this one.

I promise not to have dirty thoughts. My head is to packed full of various bits and bobs for that..

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

One would ask the egg, if they had any examples of their craft, as you have greatly intrigued this one.

I promise not to have dirty thoughts. My head is to packed full of various bits and bobs for that..

Why are you speaking like the flower maiden on Wolf's Reign (rain?)?

Boy that show was mediocre.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Sorry, I just have a tendency to say things strangely. My colleagues at work find it especially exasperating.

I've only ever actually seen one episode of Wolf's Rain, so yes I'll agree with you there. One was more than enough.

The question (no matter how oddly it was put) still stands, however.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

In other words, he wants to see the porn they drew of your characters.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Sorry, I just have a tendency to say things strangely. My colleagues at work find it especially exasperating.

I've only ever actually seen one episode of Wolf's Rain, so yes I'll agree with you there. One was more than enough.

The question (no matter how oddly it was put) still stands, however.

You know there's enough good anime out there, we just don't get much of it.

So much cheap filler.

way too much Pokemon.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

I have learned (from actually DRAWING comics) that no matter how much you swear up and down that your comic featuring animal-people is not really "furry" (as in, not specifically done for the enjoyment and fapfapness of teh fandom, omgz!), no matter how deep and thoughtful you try to be, and no matter how non-sexual your characters are...

People (i.e., furry fanboi/girl/whatsits) will stil have dirty little fantasies about every character from your personal, deep, thoughful, and pseduo-morally-positive comic hooking up with every other character from the comic in a gigantic "love dodecahedron". And your closest friends will draw pr0n about it, making you feel so dirty inside that it makes you hate all things "furry" forever and ever.

>_>

Yes, I AM bitter. Deal with it.

What was the comic?

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

In other words, he wants to see the porn they drew of your characters.

La la la la la-I'm-not-listening-la la la la la

What was the comic?

Indeed

comicartist42 · Qualificator Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

*shifty-eyed*

You guys promise not to tattle on me? :p
(Of course you don't!)

It's this monstrosity: http://untitled.comicgen.com (warning: it really is BAD. It's full of angst and emo and lame attempts of a 16-year-old to make sense of the world and preach preachy moral stuff. You have been warned!)

*ducks*

I have come to terms with the fact that my work is crap. I am chalking the whole thing up to experience and practice, however, so I guess the last 5 1/2 years have not been in vain.

I think I'll give up this whole stupid drawing business and become a zoologist.

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

*shifty-eyed*

You guys promise not to tattle on me? :p
(Of course you don't!)

It's this monstrosity: http://untitled.comicgen.com (warning: it really is BAD. It's full of angst and emo and lame attempts of a 16-year-old to make sense of the world and preach preachy moral stuff. You have been warned!)

*ducks*

I have come to terms with the fact that my work is crap. I am chalking the whole thing up to experience and practice, however, so I guess the last 5 1/2 years have not been in vain.

I think I'll give up this whole stupid drawing business and become a zoologist.

I see nothing wrong with that. In the foul dark depths of the now renamed keenspace there are much worse things dwelling.

comicartist42 · Qualificator Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

Well, thanks. ;)

I certainly can't argue with you there!

*grumbles about people who message her wanting her to look at their scribble-based comics about things with swords and junk*

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

It's actually rather enjoyable and unshitty for a furry comic about high-schoolers.

Also, love the random bash on furry in general.

The style is very fresh, and if I could draw like that at age 16... well damn.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Always interested to see the stuff fellow artists are putting out.

Also, that's not too bad for 16 years of age. Definitely more structured than the stuff I was putting out at that age, and with backgrounds too. More than most people will even attempt.

comicartist42 · Qualificator Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

*shrugs* Well, what can I say. I suppose "Untitled!" has some merit (mostly in bagging me a husband), but drawing nothing but "anthro" for 6 years has kind of stifled my artistic abilities. I was 15 when I started that thing and thought that cartoon animals were the bees knees. Now I'm 21 and I'm just so tired and jaded about it all... so, yeah.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Only advice I can give is to never stop. If you become tired of something, try taking it in a new direction, or try something new entirely. Later on, when (if) you bring what you'e learned back to your previousworks you'll be able to measure the progress in leaps and bounds.

Of course, I actually need to take my own bloody advice. Most of the work I have is relatively stale, so it's time try something new, incorporating it into what I already have.

Back on-topic. What have I learned from Furry comics? I've learned that there is quite a bit of talent out there in the field. It mostly needs honing, and for the love of god, stop drawing hermaphroditic dragons with nipple rings! Or using your strips as a platform for your own opinions! I guess I've learned that the promise shown certain areas of the fandom are being choked lifeless by inane shit. Such a waste.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

Lowkey brings up a good point - a lot of these people do seem to have at least SOME talent. And when you consider that many of these utter crapfests are updating on a 3-a-week or even daily basis, it's clear that a lot of these folks certainly have the -drive- to be good comic artists.

It's just the whole lack of creativity, inability to ever improve, and horrid writing skills that get in the way. :roll:

Maybe if the people drawing 5 comics a week cut themselves back to 1 and spent actual significant amounts of time drawing and storyboarding, they could turn out a good product, instead of churning out shit.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

*shrugs* Well, what can I say. I suppose "Untitled!" has some merit (mostly in bagging me a husband), but drawing nothing but "anthro" for 6 years has kind of stifled my artistic abilities. I was 15 when I started that thing and thought that cartoon animals were the bees knees. Now I'm 21 and I'm just so tired and jaded about it all... so, yeah.

Cute comic! I like your style!
I've been thinking about starting a comic. It would suck.
I WOULD FIT RIGHT IN!

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 679

I learned that when you store comics in cool damp places without adquate protection, they are good for the growing of myconid spores which will make them furry.

Oh, you meant something other than molds...

Nothing. I've learned nothing from furry comics.

I define it learning when it is useful. When it is merely annoying, I don't define it as learning. Maybe I would if I was as masochistic as a Cennobite but I'm not. Some furry comic artists are as sadistic (to one's common sense and sensibilities) as any Cennobite though. Does that realization count as learning?

Octan · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

From Vicki Fox I learned that it doesn't matter if your writing is bland and you only update roughly every other month, you can still amass a huge fanbase of people who will swear by your strip and send lots of fanart.

From Faux Pas I learned that even if you can't write your way out of a paper bag, people will get hooked on your strip if you can draw like Disney.

From Sabrina Online I learned that <STRIKE>stealing</STRIKE> featuring other people's characters is a viable alternative to actually creating your own, and that the point of webcomics is to have a place to parade your obsessions with crappy computers and kids' toys. And porn. Can't forget about the porn.

But the biggest thing I've learned from reading furry comics is: not to read furry comics. 8)

comicartist42 · Qualificator Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

From Vicki Fox I learned that it doesn't matter if your writing is bland and you only update roughly every other month, you can still amass a huge fanbase of people who will swear by your strip and send lots of fanart.

TECHNICALLY I'm pretty sure most of that "fanart" is stuff Mike has commissioned from people for lots of money. He's even got one from me! But there probably is a huge fanbase, I guess... Just because he's commissioned everybody under the sun. I even started reading it for awhile just because he DID commission me.

Kind of a clever tactic, if you think about it. >_>

But yeah. I don't read that strip anymore, either, and I'm not denying that it IS kind of bland. >_> But at least it's CLEAN bland, right? ;)

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

From Vicki Fox I learned that it doesn't matter if your writing is bland and you only update roughly every other month, you can still amass a huge fanbase of people who will swear by your strip and send lots of fanart.

TECHNICALLY I'm pretty sure most of that "fanart" is stuff Mike has commissioned from people for lots of money. He's even got one from me! But there probably is a huge fanbase, I guess... Just because he's commissioned everybody under the sun. I even started reading it for awhile just because he DID commission me.

Kind of a clever tactic, if you think about it. >_>

But yeah. I don't read that strip anymore, either, and I'm not denying that it IS kind of bland. >_> But at least it's CLEAN bland, right? ;)

Hey, don't be hatin' on Vicki. :> It may be bland, but there ain't a self-indulgent spooge in sight.
Not that that makes it a good comic...

Octan · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

I don't read that strip anymore, either, and I'm not denying that it IS kind of bland. >_> But at least it's CLEAN bland, right? ;)

Which of course is exactly the racket the guy has going. Not easy to find a furry website that's all clean, eh? :roll: Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Griphonix · Prattler Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 165

Which of course is exactly the racket the guy has going. Not easy to find a furry website that's all clean, eh? :roll: Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Too late!

You don't have permission to access /Pics/Cast/ceri_model_2.jpg on this server.

Squizzle · Prattler Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 121

Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Too late!

You don't have permission to access /Pics/Cast/ceri_model_2.jpg on this server.

No the server's just allergic to direct image links. Here.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Too late!

You don't have permission to access /Pics/Cast/ceri_model_2.jpg on this server.

No the server's just allergic to direct image links. Here.

...I can guarantee you at least SOMEONE has used that as a reference to draw porn of her.
Damn. :(

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Too late!

You don't have permission to access /Pics/Cast/ceri_model_2.jpg on this server.

No the server's just allergic to direct image links. Here.

Oh yeah, that's sexy. BLARGH

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 679

Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Too late!

You don't have permission to access /Pics/Cast/ceri_model_2.jpg on this server.

No the server's just allergic to direct image links. Here.

You can preface the allergic site link with

http://d0x.de/?

which will give you this link which should work. Used by finer pr0n boards everywhere.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Except that... hey waitaminute OMG CERI IS NEKKID ON HER CHARACTER SHEET!!!!

Too late!

You don't have permission to access /Pics/Cast/ceri_model_2.jpg on this server.

No the server's just allergic to direct image links. Here.

Oh yeah, that's sexy. BLARGH

I don't think she's supposed to be sexy. In fact, I don't think any of those characters are supposed to be.
Except for Zephy...the 'bad' sister.

comicartist42 · Qualificator Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

I don't think she's supposed to be sexy. In fact, I don't think any of those characters are supposed to be.
Except for Zephy...the 'bad' sister.

I would tend to agree... If they were not drawn with boobs they'd be just as innocent as any trademarked warner bros. character... wait a minute. Didn't that female looney tunes rabbit they made up for "Space Jam" have boobs?! One of my little sisters had a plush toy of that character, and of course the first thing kids do with dolls is take their clothes off. 0_o
Which leads one to the conclusion that at SOME point the animators THEMSELVES probably drew that character nekkid.

Ew. >_<

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Warner Bros. always drew breasts on its females. Its characters weren't really ever 'innocent', anyway.... But Lola was less racked than Disney's Cinderella. I think backlash to the constant furry sex exposure makes some people more insane.

Thusly describing Vicki's entire popularity.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Warner Bros. always drew breasts on its females. Its characters weren't really ever 'innocent', anyway.... But Lola was less racked than Disney's Cinderella. I think backlash to the constant furry sex exposure makes some people more insane.

Thusly describing Vicki's entire popularity.

I agree. Which is why I can't stand 99.9% of the furry comics out there. It's just sex for cheap laughs/wank material.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Didn't that female looney tunes rabbit they made up for "Space Jam" have boobs?! One of my little sisters had a plush toy of that character, and of course the first thing kids do with dolls is take their clothes off. 0_o
Which leads one to the conclusion that at SOME point the animators THEMSELVES probably drew that character nekkid.

Ew. >_<

Let's not get prissy. Lots of female cartoon characters have boobs - Snow White, Cinderella, etc etc etc - what with them being adult females. But there's no titillation in that. Lola Bunny has boobs because she's a caricature of a sexy female, she's not supposed to be sexy. An essential difference from a "furry" character.

Also, animators learn to draw from life, which means that they draw nude people. Most artists will sketch a nude character first, then add the character's clothes, because that's the best way to get proper proportions, get the muscles etc placed right, which still counts, even if the character wears loose-fitting clothes.

Goofy · Vociferator Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 311

Let's not get prissy. Lots of female cartoon characters have boobs - Snow White, Cinderella, etc etc etc - what with them being adult females...

Also, animators learn to draw from life, which means that they draw nude people. Most artists will sketch a nude character first, then add the character's clothes, because that's the best way to get proper proportions, get the muscles etc placed right, which still counts, even if the character wears loose-fitting clothes.

Makes me wonder how they came up with Olive Oyl.

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

Makes me wonder how they came up with Olive Oyl.

http://images.google.com/images?q=twiggy

(Yeah, I know it's backwards, chronologically)

Also, animators learn to draw from life, which means that they draw nude people. Most artists will sketch a nude character first, then add the character's clothes, because that's the best way to get proper proportions, get the muscles etc placed right, which still counts, even if the character wears loose-fitting clothes.

That's all roughing in a character is. Drawing the underlying circles and shapes is essentially a very low detail nude.

Zod God · Prattler Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 105

-I learned from Jack that you never really need to bother with creating and developing interesting characters, just have your e-friends do it for you or make them in the comic.

- You can make a long-ass boring arc that has little or nothing to do with the comic and people will still fawn over it.

Goofy · Vociferator Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 311

Makes me wonder how they came up with Olive Oyl.

http://images.google.com/images?q=twiggy

(Yeah, I know it's backwards, chronologically)

Well played. :)

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

The better artists know that it's best to master the art of realistic figure drawing before you go to exaggerated cartooning, because you have the realism knowledge. That's why a lot of furry (and amateur) "artists" fail, because they go right to the cartooning and never bother with learning the basics.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

Also, animators learn to draw from life, which means that they draw nude people. Most artists will sketch a nude character first, then add the character's clothes, because that's the best way to get proper proportions, get the muscles etc placed right, which still counts, even if the character wears loose-fitting clothes.

Makes me wonder how they came up with Olive Oyl.

Because Olive Oyl wasn't created for animation. Olive Oyl is part of the original cast of "Thimble Theatre" a strip created in 1919 (!) and thus she reflects the tastes of the time, albeit pretty cartoonized:

One may think E.C. Segar was ridiculizing the fashion and female tendences of the moment, especially since we consider that a few years before 'beautiful' women were supposed to be chubby and curvy (and wore those horrible corses to accentuate their curves).

Despite many people's beliefs, animation and comics are very different fields and require different skills. In traditional cartoon animation, for instance, it's necessary to have a very steady pulse -and an absolute knowledge of the character to be animated -plus enough physics to make the movement believable- in order to create a few seconds of movement, so there's a tendence to decompose movement; meanwhile, in comics, given their static nature, the artist must be capable to synthetize movement in a -single- drawing to make it dynamic. Hence why comics are usually perceived to be technically 'easier' than animation, and allow a greater freedom to artists to design characters and bring them to life:there's no need to make them 'believable', especially after the late 1940s-early 1950s, when minimalism tended to impose on comics.

Truth is, comics also require a higher narrative capacity from an artist than animation; in other words, a comics artist must be capable to 'tell' a history in as few drawings as possible, especially if they use the 'daily' approach, where you count with a very limited space to tell a complete story, be it a gag or a part of a larger history. Few animation artists would be able to do that.

Comics also need less workmanship than traditional animation, and allow a greater control of the artist over its creation (where the artist is usually a specialized part of a much larger team), that's why comics always have been more personal and creative than the moving image. And thus, it's been used time after time as a reference to create animated movies, either stylistically or by creating features directly from comics.

Like, say, Popeye.

CousinTed · Qualificator Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 14

What I learned from furry comics:

Sabrina Online
-Nothing shows you love a guy like pulling out a transformer toy on the first date and relating how the thing reminds you of him.

Perki Goth and Candi Raver
-Don't let the fact that you can't grasp proportions, shading, writing, character design, or setting up a work scheduale stop you from seeking those sweet, sweet internet blowjobs.
-If at first you don't suceed, rip off story ideas from more popular comics
-MUTT NEEDS MONEY! GIVE MUTT SOME MONEY TODAY AND HE MAY CONSIDER POSSIBLY THINKING ABOUT IMPROVING

RTD
-Stealing half your scenes from Aliens does not make your comic strip good.
-Practice does not always make perfect

Boston and Shaun
-Insanity can and has been converted into comic strip form

Zorn · Qualificator Joined: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 25

The only thing I've learned is that "funny animal" is probably the lamest term ever created.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

The only thing I've learned is that "funny animal" is probably the lamest term ever created.

As far as I can tell, it fits the purpose and describes its meaning perfectly, so then, to me, it's valid.

The term was created in the 1930s-40s to give a name at all those 'talking animal' stories that were so popular back in the time, like Tom & Jerry, Donald Duck, Pogo, Bugs Bunny, Bimbo, Woody Woodpecker, Yogi Bear, etc. Those are genuine funny animals.

Of course, if you want to be REALLY picky, you could argue not all 'funny animals' are funny. But then again, as I said in an earlier post, languages evolve, and thus words and terms change their meaning thru time. It's the same that happens with the word "comic", as comics evolved themselves. But, so far, everybody sticks with the term.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

I have learned that stuff like THIS only exists within the horrible world of furry webcomics and there fore they must all be annihilated to keep this disease from spreading to other media.

very NSFW and even more stupid

I was gonna start a thread in the AA but i know a bunch of you would bitch about the fact that it was on POE :roll:

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

Assuming that's a joke it is the greatest thing ever.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Dammit, now I have to look.

I'm pretty sure that's a joke. MS Paint line drawings are the tool of choice of internet satirists. I don't think even (many) bad furry artists use it.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Something else I learned... Furries <3 the internet.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Something else I learned... Furries <3 the internet.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Something else I learned... Furries <3 the internet.

I like how he went to the trouble of learning English, but somehow never found out that English only has punctuation at the end of a sentance.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Something else I learned... Furries <3 the internet.

i think i'm gonna be sick. It's like WCTP but even more gay internet humor

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Sad part is it's not even a forum about furries, hell, in the entire community there are only like 10, and the author just happens to be one of them.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

Something else I learned... Furries <3 the internet.

Wow, that sure sucks in-jokey donkey cock. I've just learned something new from reading this particular furry comic, namely why Sabrina Online is held in such high esteem by most furries: Compared to crud like Forumally Insane, it's brilliant.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Wow. Naylor really loves the "Female sexuality = Fucked up childhood" thing. Hooray! Persia is one of the stars in his porn stuff. Now she's just another chip off of Zigzag. :roll:

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

I learned from Better Days that once a female reached puberty, she's required to wear a crop top.

MikeyTheCat · Rasophore Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 62

I've learned that you should never let a lack of artistic and writing abilities get in your way of creating a furry webcomic.

CrazyBomber · Prattler Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 137

I've learned that you should never piss off strangers at a bar, unless you want to end up gutted out and dead cold in a drainage ditch.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I've learned that you should never piss off strangers at a bar, unless you want to end up gutted out and dead cold in a drainage ditch.

I think as a general rule it would be wise not to piss people off at a bar.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I've learned that I need to hide the soap better.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

I've learned that this thread is never going to die.

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

I've learned that I don't even know what the hell is going on around here anymore.

SLaitila · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 490

I've learned that I don't even know what the hell is going on around here anymore.

It's slowly either becoming a furry porn site or another burned fur, at least according to the forums.

creature · Vociferator Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 520

Someone needs to take the best of these and make an article. *nod*

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

I've learned that I don't even know what the hell is going on around here anymore.

It's slowly either becoming a furry porn site or another burned fur, at least according to the forums.

With the way these threads have been derailing, why choose? We can have both. At the same time.

Zod God · Prattler Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 105

I learned that females are best protected from attack by wearing bikinis made from the armor of their choice, and can weild weapons with the strongest men while having toothpick arms.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I learned that females are best protected from attack by wearing bikinis made from the armor of their choice, and can weild weapons with the strongest men while having toothpick arms.

Odd I learned the same thing from Magic

Octan · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

I learned from Better Days that once a female reached puberty, she's required to wear a crop top.

It took Better Days to teach you that? :shock: Honestly, you need to get out from under that rock sometime.

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

hahaha

but really, girls rarely wear those kinds of things. they have a tendency to wear shirts too small for them and pants realy low so you see their buttcracks when they sit down infront of you.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

I learned that anthropomprhic animals were affected by the Sept. 11 attacks. I'm sure that this has popped up in more comics than these two, but off the top of my head, I can say that we've got that blasted "oblong tomb" in Jack and here's a mention in Badly Drawn Kitties. I can understand alternate universes and all but isn't the idea that they're supposed to be, oh, I don't know, different than the current one? :P

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

I've learned that I'm always right because I use the Intenet. Everyone else is just dumber then I am. Anybody who says otherwise is an islamo-jewish homophobic gay liberal conservative mundane.

I learned that I don't need to take art classes or learn muscle anatomy for good characters, I just draw webcomics any way. If it's REALLY terrible, I either do it in pencil "sketchbook" look, or I just fill the screen with a bunch of photoshoppery bullshit that makes me look like I have talent. If all else fails, blur the screen with muddy awful colours until you don't know what the hell is going on. This is called "abstract" art. And it means you're just plain too good to do things like everyone else.

Also, mentioning the obvious, like say, a porn star character shows up a lot in pornographic images, means that you're a woman hater.

Finally, I learned the best way to deal with anything you have a problem with is to ignore it and move on, no matter how disturbing, harmful, offensive or obvious the thing is to you.

I learned that you are not allowed to have an opinion if it offends me, because I'm right and you're not.

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

I've learned that you don't need lawyers or courts or any of that crap for a lawsuit(e). All you need is a LiveJournal and riteous furry...er...fury.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I learned that anthropomprhic animals ware affected by the Sept. 11 attacks. I'm sure that this has popped up in more comics than these two, but off the top of my head, I can say that we've got that blasted "oblong tomb" in Jack and here's a mention in Badly Drawn Kitties. I can understand alternate universes and all but isn't the idea that they're supposed to be, oh, I don't know, different than the current one? :P

No actually Jack fucked that up and now has continuity problems due to that sort of thing, he decided to make the storyline such that the animal people all descended from genitically engineered whatever the hell they were for. and then apparently humans got wipe out somehow and there appears to be no non anthro animals anymore (oh I wonder where he's going with this :roll: )

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

I learned that anthropomprhic animals ware affected by the Sept. 11 attacks. I'm sure that this has popped up in more comics than these two, but off the top of my head, I can say that we've got that blasted "oblong tomb" in Jack and here's a mention in Badly Drawn Kitties. I can understand alternate universes and all but isn't the idea that they're supposed to be, oh, I don't know, different than the current one? :P

I just learned if you have a evil enough character in your comic you can get your own special panda.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Original characters? Who needs them! Just borrow characters from your friends. And don't worry about being the thousandth comic to feature Zigzag; everyone loves her. If you don't, of course, you're just a woman hater and you don't really matter.

And forget about original ideas while you're at it. Feel free to create entire comics consisting of conversations you've had with friendes on forums of LiveJournals. That way you've got a whole horde of fans to slobber over how great you are even if your artwork sucks.

You're not a true comic artist if you don't include your "fursona" in the comic.

Anthro dinosaurs, fish, birds, and dragons count as furries. However, monkeys don't exist.

If you're comic doesn't have violence, gore, or sex, it's no good. If it has all of the above things, it's a guaranteed hit because it's "adult" and therefore "deep."

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

I larnt from kevinandkell.com that there are some good, rare comics that humorously reflect corporate life in a metaphorical way.

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

Anthro dinosaurs, fish, birds, and dragons count as furries. However, monkeys don't exist.

That's understandable, in a way. I tried out an anthro chimp posing with one of my red panda characters, and it just looks awkward. PRIMATES ARE TOO HUMANISH, ARGH. Except for lemurs because they're actually rodents, am I right?

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

I larnt from kevinandkell.com that there are some good, rare comics that humorously reflect corporate life in a metaphorical way.

You're kidding right? Please say you're kidding.

Squizzle · Prattler Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 121

I larnt from kevinandkell.com that there are some good, rare comics that humorously reflect corporate life in a metaphorical way.

You're kidding right? Please say you're kidding.

He's right, you know. Sally Forth being both a mother and an office worker is totally a metaphor for being the one employee who has to save everyone (bosses included) from their own messes!

Smatterchew · Qualificator Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 22

I've learned that furry comics are a gateway to art whoredom. :shock:

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

I larnt from kevinandkell.com that there are some good, rare comics that humorously reflect corporate life in a metaphorical way.

You're kidding right? Please say you're kidding.

Heh, say what you want. I read "On the Fastrack" too. Yeah, so I'm a geek.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Anthro dinosaurs, fish, birds, and dragons count as furries. However, monkeys don't exist.

That's understandable, in a way. I tried out an anthro chimp posing with one of my red panda characters, and it just looks awkward. PRIMATES ARE TOO HUMANISH, ARGH. Except for lemurs because they're actually rodents, am I right?

Maybe you're just drawing them the wrong way? They way I'm imagining them, anthropomorphic primates would still look different from humans. Hell, swipe some facial models from Planet of the Apes.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Anthro dinosaurs, fish, birds, and dragons count as furries. However, monkeys don't exist.

That's understandable, in a way. I tried out an anthro chimp posing with one of my red panda characters, and it just looks awkward. PRIMATES ARE TOO HUMANISH, ARGH. Except for lemurs because they're actually rodents, am I right?

Maybe you're just drawing them the wrong way? They way I'm imagining them, anthropomorphic primates would still look different from humans. Hell, swipe some facial models from Planet of the Apes.

I'd kiss you but you're just so damn ugly

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

And everything's better with monkeys.

OK, so I am way too freaked by an anthro dinosaur proclaiming "Good furs die hard!" Just...ahhh! :shock:

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

And everything's better with monkeys.

OK, so I am way too freaked by an anthro dinosaur proclaiming "Good furs die hard!" Just...ahhh! :shock:

yeah that's pretty gay

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

I just feel weird making monkeys and apes closer to humans, because then they'd just resemble fuzzy humans (gorillas and orangutans could get away with it, but it's tougher to anthropomorphize chimps and bonobos and still make them feel a part of the fuzzy cutesy woo floofy tailed universe). Ah well. Maybe I'll make a webcomic called "Monkey Business" about anthroporphic primates who use computers and drink coffee and work in an office and stuff!

And I don't think there's anything else I learned from furry comics. Well, I learned that Gene Catlowe is very boring, haha.

Octan · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

Anthro dinosaurs, fish, birds, and dragons count as furries. However, monkeys don't exist.

That's understandable, in a way. I tried out an anthro chimp posing with one of my red panda characters, and it just looks awkward. PRIMATES ARE TOO HUMANISH, ARGH. Except for lemurs because they're actually rodents, am I right?

Maybe you're just drawing them the wrong way? They way I'm imagining them, anthropomorphic primates would still look different from humans. Hell, swipe some facial models from Planet of the Apes.

I would think an anthropomorphic ape would just look like... an ape. That walks on its hind ~~hands~~ feet. Seriously. Only with the human-like facial expressions that most cartoonists can't not draw on animals anyway.

Iveechan · Qualificator Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 31

It's not the difficulty in drawing apes that's the issue, it's the whole awkwardness with them being among non-primates because an anthro ape wouldn't look much different from a regular ape or a human. You can do things, like, shortening the arms and elongating the legs, making them walk upright 24/7... then it's just a human with more fur and a smaller nose.

Either way, I like the Monkey Business idea.

Evil · Rasophore Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 62

And everything's better with monkeys.

OK, so I am way too freaked by an anthro dinosaur proclaiming "Good furs die hard!" Just...ahhh! :shock:

yeah that's pretty gay

That's the gayest fucking thing I've ever seen.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Jay Naylor lives in a strange little world where girls all wear frilly pink panties and this isn't hard to figure out because that's all they ever sleep in. :P

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 264

Anthro dinosaurs, fish, birds, and dragons count as furries. However, monkeys don't exist.

That's understandable, in a way. I tried out an anthro chimp posing with one of my red panda characters, and it just looks awkward. PRIMATES ARE TOO HUMANISH, ARGH. Except for lemurs because they're actually rodents, am I right?

Nah, they aren't too humanish, totally different facial structures to draw with vast variety. As an artist, you can't be afraid to try the more challenging animals just because they are challenging. I mean, come on, if Kim Possible can make a naked mole rat look at least entertaining, you can draw a monkey.

nopedestrian · Prattler Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

Maybe you're just drawing them the wrong way? They way I'm imagining them, anthropomorphic primates would still look different from humans. Hell, swipe some facial models from Planet of the Apes.

Maybe most of it just looks like PotA fanart.

I've seen a few small primates used, like ayeayes and of course lemurs. But that may be because primate species are less widely known about. More people know about raccoons and 'possums than they do tarsiers or spot-nosed guenons.

CI · Apocrisiary Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 50

I mean, come on, if Kim Possible can make a naked mole rat look at least entertaining...

No. No it can't.

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 264

Maybe you're just drawing them the wrong way? They way I'm imagining them, anthropomorphic primates would still look different from humans. Hell, swipe some facial models from Planet of the Apes.

Maybe most of it just looks like PotA fanart.

I've seen a few small primates used, like ayeayes and of course lemurs. But that may be because primate species are less widely known about. More people know about raccoons and 'possums than they do tarsiers or spot-nosed guenons.

If you have the chance to see Blacksad tome 1 and 3 you'll see some well done primates of varying species in it. It can be done, if you study your source material.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I mean, come on, if Kim Possible can make a naked mole rat look at least entertaining...

No. No it can't.

iawtc. The only thing lamer than the show itself is the damn rat.

MagnusSkin · Prattler Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 106

The show might be lame, but do not... mess with the NACO.

Beauty of Nature · Prattler Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 178

I have learned from Digger that Ursula Vernon,though otherwise an interesting artist, makes rather boring webcomics.

I learned that EWS is a very sad and lonely man as soon as he introduced ZigZag and her porn studio to the Sabrina Online comic strip. That was the point where I stopped reading it.

CI · Apocrisiary Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 50

I have learned from Digger that Ursula Vernon,though otherwise an interesting artist, makes rather boring webcomics.

So I see.

I learned that EWS is a very sad and lonely man

It took a CYD article to teach me that. And most of the lesson was looking at photos of him.
The introduction of ZigZag to SO taught me that it wasn't anthro or 'funny animal', but just another piddling little unimaginative, sex-crazed, furry comic.

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 264

I mean, come on, if Kim Possible can make a naked mole rat look at least entertaining...

No. No it can't.

iawtc. The only thing lamer than the show itself is the damn rat.

Didn't say it was a good show, cause I've actually never watched a full episode myself, but, somebody out there likes it cause it's got good ratings.

I have realized though, that too many people learn things from the internet and webcomics. Read a newspaper or book instead.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

I have realized though, that too many people learn things from the internet and webcomics. Read a newspaper or book instead.

Oh, come on. This thread is just a joke. At least I hope is is...

Seraph · Qualificator Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 15

Question: How is Kevin and Kell not a furry comic? It's not funny, and it has furries in it.

I have a webcomic , it's very badly drawn, I hardly ever update it, there's no sex in it, no drama, prettymuch no solid storyline, very little acknowledgement of race or species, not more than a few humorous passes at politics, and no morals...
Yet... a lot of people have told me it's funny.

*cackles* I finally fixed that link. Damn bbcode.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

I learned that EWS is a very sad and lonely man as soon as he introduced ZigZag and her porn studio to the Sabrina Online comic strip. That was the point where I stopped reading it.

I started reading through Sabrina Online some time back. I was quite surprised at just how little time elapsed from start to Zig Zag. I'd heard the comic wasn't that bad before the porn studio appeared, but very little comic exists before Zig Zag showed up. How quickly they succumb to the allure of porn.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I learned that EWS is a very sad and lonely man as soon as he introduced ZigZag and her porn studio to the Sabrina Online comic strip. That was the point where I stopped reading it.

I started reading through Sabrina Online some time back. I was quite surprised at just how little time elapsed from start to Zig Zag. I'd heard the comic wasn't that bad before the porn studio appeared, but very little comic exists before Zig Zag showed up. How quickly they succumb to the allure of porn.

I'm sorry, but SO was NEVER a 'good' comic. I mean, the whole OH HAY GUYS LOOK AMY THE SQUIRREL HAS CRAZY SEX thing was a step towards the self-indulgent fan service self-wankery that was the introduction of ZigZag.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Oh, come on. This thread is just a joke. At least I hope is is...

Yes, it is. Or at least more along the lines I was thinking to begin with is stuff furry comic artists seem to want us to believe. :P

raygirl · Qualificator Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 16

I learned stuff from JACK that I never learned in biology class, or sex ed

or art class...http://www.pholph.com/index.php?Strip=707 (image includes badly drawn naked lady, so probably not work safe but I really don't know >_0 )

I'm pretty sure last time I looked in a mirror my anatomy was never that ugly...nor was my skin that colour...but then again I'm not a blonde