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nopedestrian · Prattler Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

http://www.anthonybrownrigg.com/freeborn/index2.html

I'm surprised that this hasn't been mentioned yet. I can't really decide for myself whether this is a genuine project that will go to theatres or just more amateur art project wankery being bankrolled by furries.

But what I do know is that this has been mentioned by a few indie film sites and what I do know is that the forums are nearly 90% otherkin.

(To be totally honest, I really wish someone would make a good werewolf movie this decade.)

Bonus are you fucking kidding me:
http://www.calypso-blue.com/werewolf/viewtopic.php?t=1456

So, most people seem to be of the opinion that male werewolves would have sheaths, and I think that makes sense.

But what about female werewolves? Would they retain their human genitalia, or develop canine genitalia? It would make more sense for them to have canine ones, simply because the males do. However, I've owned dogs for years and female dog genitals are not pretty by any stretch of the imagination.

Perhaps they could be located lower than a human female's, so that even if they were canine, you couldn't see them.

This is a multi million dollar project we want everyone's opinion on werewolf genitals so be honest now

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

This looks pretty crappy but from the remote hints of professionalism I would guess furries have absolutely nothing to do with it.

The messageboards will be all in a tizzy the months before this gets made and the sheer volume of gay fanfics will overload and possibly crash the entire internet.

That is of course IF it gets made.

CrazyBomber · Prattler Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 137

This movie can be either a blockbuster or a colossal fiasco.
But we only could see the results after his launching IF it get maked.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 658

This looks pretty crappy but from the remote hints of professionalism I would guess furries have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Well, depends whether you count Timothy Albee as furry.

Brownrigg began a search for someone that could match his ideas in the ‘look’ of the project. He was impressed with the work of Timothy Albee, who was getting a lot of press for another project. Albee had been working on “Kaze: Ghost Warrior” a fully animated feature. "Kaze" contained mainly anthropomorphic characters. While the style was more attributed to animation, the quality, and detail of his design matched Brownrigg’s need for a combination of beauty and reality.

Brownrigg contacted Albee, sharing the back-story of the Pack, and what he wanted the film to be. Albee, who already had been looking for a werewolf project to filter through his new animation studio, loved the idea. In early 2005, Brownrigg asked Albee to come on as co-producer for the film.

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

There's very, very few furries who have the bankrolls to fund this. Of course the peons will try with their $20 and $40 dollar shots in the arm.

Regardless, seriously if this makes it to the big screen, it will flop so badly that someone..or ones will lose their houses over this. The type of "Werewolf" movie most of the fandom wants to see couldn't be shown even for a NC-17 rating. And CGI is -STILL- not cheap. Not even shitty CGI and these morons think they can pull off something as good looking as a Disney, Dreamworks or Plitxer flick?

nopedestrian · Prattler Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

If this is a professional job it strikes me as totally bizarre that they would open a bunch of forums just to allow otherkin to shuffle in and litter the place with completely serious questions about werewolf penises.

It's too bad that the teaser looks halfway promising, but what do you expect, I guess.

AngryFurreII · Qualificator Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 20

I don't know. What little of the graphics we see look pretty good, and the acting is acceptable. The soundtrack sounds interesting. The story seems like it'll be exceedingly angsty, though. Not enough information.

I kind of agree with nopedestrian, though. It would be great to see a neat werewolf movie come out. "Cursed" was kind of lame.

Squizzle · Prattler Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 121

from the remote hints of professionalism I would guess furries have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Well, depends whether you count Timothy Albee as furry.

I DO! I DO! =D
That Kaze short film of Albee's is populated entirely by animal-head people, has more emphasis on pretty visuals than any sort of storyline, and is SERIOUS! SERIOUS!! so I think that, yeah, he qualifies as a furry.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

from the remote hints of professionalism I would guess furries have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Well, depends whether you count Timothy Albee as furry.

I DO! I DO! =D
That Kaze short film of Albee's is populated entirely by animal-head people, has more emphasis on pretty visuals than any sort of storyline, and is SERIOUS! SERIOUS!! so I think that, yeah, he qualifies as a furry.

oh man, the guy that did Kaze is involved in this? I don't give a fuck if he did that himself in fucking 10 minutes the animation SUCKS in that and he got so much praise calling it a masterpiece and shit. I give him props because that is an impressive endeavor for one man but it looks exactly that, like it was made by one guy in 6 months.

This kid brought that into my character animation class and got punked by my professor, he turned it off halfway through and put on Tom & Jerry :lol:

Charisma · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 326

The only reeeally good werewolf in a movie I've been impressed with was in Van Hellsing, and that was a crap movie overall in my opinion. Pity that.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

(To be totally honest, I really wish someone would make a good werewolf movie this decade.)

Dog Soldiers isn't 10 years old yet.

Bonus are you fucking kidding me:
http://www.calypso-blue.com/werewolf/viewtopic.php?t=1456

Ugh, give the furries an inch, and they'll take 7, with a knot...

Well, depends whether you count Timothy Albee as furry.

Let's see:
-He spend six months on a computer project centered around animal people for no aparent reason.
-His setting was typical honor-driven feudal Japan. This is also the plot.
-He was too cheap to spring for real voice actors or composers, going it alone and not attempting very hard to differenciate the whispered dialog.
-Went to AC as guest of honor.
-Had furry praised lavished upon him

Well, you get the picture.

Basically, it seems like this was an independant project to make a 'serious' werewolf movie, and the otherkin glued themselves to it like stink on an ape, and likely donated money/offered 'concept art' so much that all the pseudo-jaded were-folk (read: Goldenwolf types) are now utterly intertwined with it's development. They want to change a Borchardtesque werewolf movie into a native-american-windtalker-natural-yiffy otherkin werewolf movie. Don't expect it in theatres any time soon.
even if Albee can whip a crew into shape and belt it out, there isn't a chance it will be a smooth or enjoyable film to non-otherkin. What was the last major anime film to hit american theatres? And how many of those are made? At least sometimes the movies try to appeal to more than just the fandom that urged them on. Compare any old Star Trek film with the fan-written 'Nemesis'. Box-office wise, no comparison.

But hey were dudes... PROVE ME WRONG, HUR HUR.

nopedestrian · Prattler Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

Dog Soldiers isn't 10 years old yet.

At first I thought you weren't being serious, but IMDb seems to have glowing things to say about it. I might have to pick it up.

Let's see:
-He spend six months on a computer project centered around animal people for no aparent reason.
-His setting was typical honor-driven feudal Japan. This is also the plot.
-He was too cheap to spring for real voice actors or composers, going it alone and not attempting very hard to differenciate the whispered dialog.
-Went to AC as guest of honor.
-Had furry praised lavished upon him

The evidence for furry doesn't get much better than this(NWS..?):

http://ta-animation.com/gal/TA-Fine-Art/Lovers_Dance

Sir, you cannot get much furrier than spending loads of time and effort and talent to produce a beautiful oil painting of ..lion copulation.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

Dog Soldiers isn't 10 years old yet.

At first I thought you weren't being serious, but IMDb seems to have glowing things to say about it. I might have to pick it up.

Let's see:
-He spend six months on a computer project centered around animal people for no aparent reason.
-His setting was typical honor-driven feudal Japan. This is also the plot.
-He was too cheap to spring for real voice actors or composers, going it alone and not attempting very hard to differenciate the whispered dialog.
-Went to AC as guest of honor.
-Had furry praised lavished upon him

The evidence for furry doesn't get much better than this(NWS..?):

http://ta-animation.com/gal/TA-Fine-Art/Lovers_Dance

Sir, you cannot get much furrier than spending loads of time and effort and talent to produce a beautiful oil painting of ..lion copulation.

Romantacizing animal mating and spending hours lovingly rendering it onto a canvas. That sounds like something a zoo would do but i'm not jumping to conclusions here. Not a terrible painting either. He's a furry alright at the very least. Almost like an Ebonlupus with common sense and talent

Tass · Prattler Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 178

The only reeeally good werewolf in a movie I've been impressed with was in Van Hellsing, and that was a crap movie overall in my opinion. Pity that.

The best werewolf in ANY form of media, is Terry Prachett's werewolfs.
They are a part of society, and therefore have clubs, unions and councils entirely made up of them to discuss, well.. Werewolfy things.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I remember this project first being announced as a website called "Build the Ultimate Werewolf" (linked to from Yerf) where a movie maker decided to let the werewolf fans give suggestions and feedback for things they'd like to see in a werewolf movie (because as we all know, most werewolf movies are crap).

Given the sheer ammount of time and research done for this movie, I have high hopes for this project and I like a good movie werewolf or werewolf movie. Time will tell and I'll give a proper opinion when I see it.

Kudos to the product management people for using Introitus Requiem from Mozart's Requiem in the trailer.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

blablabla the trailer looks ok, I guess.
But as mentioned before, it's wayyyy high on the angst meter...like Dawson's Creek with sheaths and knots. I guarantee you there's at least one scene in which a character goes "DO YOU LOVE ME EVEN THOUGH IM A WEREWOLF?"
"OH BABY, I LOVE YOU EVEN MORE, NOW!"
...but I guess it could be an OK movie if done properly. But knowing this Timothy Albee guy's association with furries, it could easily become a self-indulgent wank fest.

vanilla rin · Qualificator Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 31

This actually looks like it could be good... in my junior high days I was big into angsty werewolf books, and this rings my nostalgia a bit. Hey, deep down, I'm still a sucker for stories were the dark creature of ANGST falls for a normal person and gets conflicted.

But then again, if I didn't like the drama I wouldn't be in a place like this. :)

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

The only reeeally good werewolf in a movie I've been impressed with was in Van Hellsing, and that was a crap movie overall in my opinion. Pity that.

The best werewolf in ANY form of media, is Terry Prachett's werewolfs.
They are a part of society, and therefore have clubs, unions and councils entirely made up of them to discuss, well.. Werewolfy things.

And at least one on the City Guard. 8)

Evil · Rasophore Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 62

knowing this Timothy Albee guy's association with furries, it could easily become a self-indulgent wank fest.

Try inevitably.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I always thought werewolves were mostly androgenous. Especially since the way the make more werewolves is typically through cursing more people through bites, not by fucking (although I could see maybe the children they have as humans being weres). It's one of their greatest and most notable weaknesses...

When they make more of themselves the old fashioned way, it's less like a zombie horde and more like an invasion of Mormons or Chinese.

ABrownrigg · Qualificator Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 5

Wow, strong opinions all. That's the kind of thing I'm looking for. My name is Anthony Brownrigg, the director of Freeborn.

As I told everyone on the pack site, I would be looking around at opinions and feedback everywhere I could find it. I sure found it here. Perhaps I could garner some good info.

The whole Freeborn thing... as it's come to be called, was more or less just an experiment at first. When someone offered me a werewolf script to direct, I thought it needed work, and what I wanted was to see a werewolf story, with a 'story' as opposed to the original script, which was a young girl running for her life and tripping over branches as the slathering beast chased her. Hmm, not very inspiring in my opinion.

The difficulty arose when trying to sell an idea of a 'story' to distributors, who for the most part only asking for things with (1. topless scene), (2. Two sex scenes, one of them hard 'R'), and (3. lots and lots of blood).

Being as I was all alone on this, I decided lets ask fans of that genre what they want in a werewolf film. The purpose was two fold,

1. to get their honest feelings on what a werewolf should be. (the plotline is mine alone, but basic premise of the genre is what I was looking for).

2. To get numbers for distributors.

Cursed was a poor movie in my opinion, but Cravens hard part was not the filming, it was the distributors who decided to follow demographics, and cut the film so they felt it would make the most money. Seems to me, many of these films ignore potential fans of the genre for the sake of following generic demographics that make no sense.

So, now I'm talking to larger studios and they're taking the time to listen to me which is nice, but its not due to me. It's due to the fact that I can plop down on the table my own demographics from all over the world of what fans would really WANT in the film. So far it's worked pretty well.

The Pack site has become its own animal so to speak. Yes, there's things on there that make me cringe a bit, but the majority are more interested in storyline than in a sheath or not. And by the way, there will be none of that in the film. The teaser trailer I will freely admit is a little over the top melodrama, its purpose was mainly to show we're working on a 'story' film, and not a horror film.

Personally the things I'm interested in are the things that werewolves do, when they're NOT werewolves. Community, feelings, day to day life, etc. I would not call myself a 'furry' per-se, unless being a fan of anthropomorphic animals counts in any way. But its certainly an eye opening experience learning about all of this, from furries, to therians, to anthro fans (I'm told theres a difference), and lots of other little sub groups.

I can see theres a lot of strong opinions here. I would love to find out what you think would help the situation. No, I'm no studio, but I do have plenty of experience, and the determination to make this thing work. And I figure if I'm going to plop time down in a movie, why not do one that folks would want to see.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Anthony Brownrigg
Director - Freeborn

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Being as I was all alone on this, I decided lets ask fans of that genre what they want in a werewolf film.

Well, from the sound of things you wound up soliciting opinions from the wrong fans. They're a vocal crowd, I'm sure, but bear in mind that the folks on your message board may very well be it in terms of demographics. Tread with caution here.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

well mr brownrigg, i'm not a fan of that genre at all so disregard anything i might have said, i probably can't be any help to you. My only suggestion is keep furries as far away from influencing you into making a decision on werewolf portrayal as possible, that is all, and best of luck to you.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Damn, word about this site spreads quickly. I'm somewhat glad to find out you aren't including doggy dicks on your werewolves. I'll get back to the movie later though. Here's the guts of this site, and a fair share ofthe attitudes here, about the furry fandom and whatnot.

But its certainly an eye opening experience learning about all of this, from furries, to therians, to anthro fans (I'm told theres a difference), and lots of other little sub groups.

Ah, simple really. Anthro fans are just that, fans of anthropomorpics. Furry is the fetish (possibly non-sexual though) associated with it. They are fans to the point where they are nearly only fans of anthros and will anthro stuff FNAR. Therians are the anthro version of those guys who honestly believe they are Jedi, wizards or elves.

Or, for quick referrence.

Anthro fan: "Bugs Bunny is cool..."
Furry: "Bunnies are yiffy! ^.^"
Therian: "I am an ancient and certified lagomorph of clan Delta."

Now, it's great to see you are indeed here, willing to listen to varied opinions. I happen to be a fan of werewolf movies myself.

And I figure if I'm going to plop time down in a movie, why not do one that folks would want to see.

Interesting premise, but have you thought of the idea that instead of avoiding a demogaphic poll to tell a story, your method may just swap the demographic of the public at large to a far smaller demographic of said fans? I pose it to you this way. If you were writing a vampire movie, would you honestly want to tell a great story that involved vampires, or to make a vampire movie for the kids at Hot Topic, as opposed to the general public.

I think the idea of avoiding demographics is important, but you have to ask at what point you've boxed yourself into a corner with it's plot and theme. Who are you writing it for if the input on your forums are things like sheaths or not?

I would suggest using one of the most successful werewolf movie formulas, again going back to 'Dog Soldiers'. Don't think of it as a 'Werewolf movie for x' or a 'werewolf movie with y'. Write it as a self-standing story, and have there werewolf bit be the addition. The y, the x. It seems like you're currently just trying to make a movie in a prediction of a cult following, which although possible, won't make for good cinema. Let your gut have more sway than your forums, and don't be afraid to alienate some fans. You can't make an omlet without dashing the hopes of a few fantard eggs.

Oh, and make damn sure Timothy Albee doesn't plop his name in the credits more than a dozen times. He has a habit of that.

ABrownrigg · Qualificator Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 5

Good input indeed.

To set some of the records strait on this. The film has more werewolves in it than any other werewolf film to date. However...

..... the film isn't about werewolves.

Sounds odd I know. But it takes up from the point of, "okay you're a werewolf, now what", as opposed to the overused, "oh god I've been bitten, can I get cured before the full moon?"

Dog soldiers was a very good film, I liked it a lot for that reason. It had character, its about the people. The werewolf fans flocked to the board first, though i've had many other folks look at the script who are NOT werewolf fans.. and said it sounds like a good story, and they'd see it if it turned out like the script.

I'm not really targeting a cult following. But take underworld for example.

A non-werewolf fan sees the movie. "Eh, its okay.. ", and tells that to a couple of folks.

A werewolf FAN sees the film. "THAT SUCKED!!!", and they tend to tell everyone they know it sucked too. And the converse is true "THAT ROCKED!!!", and it is bellowed off the hillside.

There are dozens and dozens of topics on the pack site now that are totally not related to the film. The main thing that came from the 'fans' is

1. they want to see a good story, as opposed to just a slasher film.
2. Werewolves should have digigrade legs.
3. Werewolves should have tails.
4. Werewolves don't run around eating people because they're mindless.
5. They have 'fur' not scraggly mop hair, or monkey like skin.

That's the direction, nothing to do with sheaths, or breasts, females look a little different, not big boobs, just smaller swells, and only two in the design, fur covered. If anyone in the general public things sexual, then I've lost them.

So in essense, I'm not really aiming for a 'genre film", the script is really a drama with people who happen to be werewolves. It's gonna be a tricky flick to create for certain. But I'm not doing nudity, no sex scenes, and none of that. It's a story about people that are in an exceptional situation, and when that situation becomes dangerous, who can be trusted.

for example, The main character is a werewolf, but he has an apartment like everyone else, and works at the DMV. He's not part of some religeous cult, and the premise of where werewolves come from is always illusive just as many religions are.

"So, what are you guys? I mean, is it a curse? a disease? what?"

(shrug) "It didn't really come with an instruction manual, I can't really say, I've got my theories like a lot of us do, but either way, It still doen't change the fact that you're buying my lunch today" (grin)

I will certainly chew on what you're saying. Thank you,

Anthony Brownrigg

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Actually, on a second pass over, it sounds rather intriguing. Mor of a focus on pack mentality than just zombies with fur. Sounds like a razors edge you're balancing on though, and I hope it has some slashing scenes, to avoid simply being a Dawson's Creek with fur.

If it makes it to the big screen, I'll be sure to see it.

ABrownrigg · Qualificator Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 5

Oh yes, there is definitly killing, but its with a reason. Think honestly for a moment what if were's really existed. Honestly, in today's world. There's a scene in the film where Jim (the lead), and Maxwell (another werewolf) are in a convenience store. Max has been pulling some fun type stuff involving what he is, and has risked getting himself seen, or photographed. Jim tells him he's getting too dangerous. Max laughs at him and says.

"Look around you man, no one cares. If someone dropped dead in the street, how many folks would walk by before they checked the body."

"I think you're wrong"

"Let's see."

Max walks up to a shopper in the store and politely introduces himself.

"Excuse me ma'am, my friend and I here are werewolves, and we wondered if you'd be interested in joining our pack , you know, howling and stuff at the moon."

The woman stares at him with wide eyes.

"Uhhhh, yeah... oookay well, I gotta go, you.. take care. "

The woman walks off with a look of 'weirdo' on her face. Max turns back to Jim.

"See? No one cares".

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Actually, on a second pass over, it sounds rather intriguing. Mor of a focus on pack mentality than just zombies with fur. Sounds like a razors edge you're balancing on though, and I hope it has some slashing scenes, to avoid simply being a Dawson's Creek with fur.

If it makes it to the big screen, I'll be sure to see it.

Dawson's Creek with fur sounds like a Mad TV comedy sketch

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

Actually, on a second pass over, it sounds rather intriguing. Mor of a focus on pack mentality than just zombies with fur. Sounds like a razors edge you're balancing on though, and I hope it has some slashing scenes, to avoid simply being a Dawson's Creek with fur.

If it makes it to the big screen, I'll be sure to see it.

Dawson's Creek with fur sounds like a Mad TV comedy sketch

Throw in a Spy Vs. Spy clip, and you've got comedy gold!

Okay, I'm not the movie-watching type, so as far as demographics go, I'm not your man. But frankly, avoid targeting demographics anyways. I'll look at it later on anyways, and maybe I might even say something insightful!

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Why the hell does there have to be a sex scene in a Werewolf movie? Is it just to bring in the younger, horny crowd, the furries, or does it push the story along?
Like, does it end in severed genetalia?

Evil · Rasophore Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 62

Dog soldiers was a very good film, I liked it a lot for that reason. It had character, its about the people.

Dog Soldiers was awesome not because of the werewolves, but because it was the most accurate depiction of squaddies ever filmed.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Dog soldiers was a very good film, I liked it a lot for that reason. It had character, its about the people.

Dog Soldiers was awesome not because of the werewolves, but because it was the most accurate depiction of squaddies ever filmed.

Then god help the British Army.

ABrownrigg · Qualificator Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 5

There is NO sex scene in the movie. I'm staying away from that, and going for a real story here. No furry fans in the movie either, or therians. Just real honest to goodness werewolves. At least thats the attempt.

Anthony Brownrigg

:D

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

There is NO sex scene in the movie. I'm staying away from that, and going for a real story here. No furry fans in the movie either, or therians. Just real honest to goodness werewolves. At least thats the attempt.

Anthony Brownrigg

:D

Oh, ok. I thought I saw sex scene mentioned somewhere.

Sixtail · Coadjutor Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 93

There is NO sex scene in the movie. I'm staying away from that, and going for a real story here. No furry fans in the movie either, or therians. Just real honest to goodness werewolves. At least thats the attempt.

Anthony Brownrigg

:D

Then I retract most of my barbs and jabs and find I must cheer you on.

Bonus points if you nail furry artists who create smut from your characters with summons to court and have honset to goodness laywers call them up.

If your going for what you say, you will have created something I didn't think possable anymore, a movie for fans of a anthro gerne with utterly no impact taken from the fandom and most insulting to them, aimed at a wider viewer base.

The no sex scene thing is soild gold btw.

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

There is NO sex scene in the movie. I'm staying away from that, and going for a real story here. No furry fans in the movie either, or therians. Just real honest to goodness werewolves. At least thats the attempt.

Okay, this is sounding better and better. Although for some reason, I can see one short throwaway humor scene almost akin or following the one you mentioned in the "No one cares":

Some kid overhears the conversation, intrudes and requests that Jim make him a werewolf. Jim tries to insist that such things don't exist, Max simply states, "You don't really want it. The hairballs are a bitch."

Jim and Max leave, kid turns to woman who somehow is still there, stunned, "You're a vampire, right?"

Evil · Rasophore Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 62

Dog soldiers was a very good film, I liked it a lot for that reason. It had character, its about the people.

Dog Soldiers was awesome not because of the werewolves, but because it was the most accurate depiction of squaddies ever filmed.

Then god help the British Army.

Well, the sense of humour was spot on. On second thoughts, maybe I didn't phrase my initial post correctly.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

This has the potential of being quite an interesting movie. If they ease down on the ANGST ANGST ANGST and try not to include a single dong whatsoever (no matter how much those otherkins squeal) this may become a very good motion picture. I just hope it doesn't recieve the 'furry touch of failure.'

ABrownrigg · Qualificator Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 5

Well, interestingly enough. None of the 'otherkins' on the pack side want to see dongs or sheaths either. While they talk about anatomy and such, they all want the film to contain none of it. It's an issue that I'm shooting 'around.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

None of the 'otherkins' on the pack side want to see dongs or sheaths either. While they talk about anatomy and such, they all want the film to contain none of it. It's an issue that I'm shooting 'around.

Oh, I must've missed that.

Well, that just makes it even more easier for the movie to become good, I'spose. If producers find a base of information and inspiration from people that are up to no good, it would get harder for said producer to ignore or break off without getting scathed some way or the other, I guess. But since this seemingly isn't the case, we've got one detail less to worry about.