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Paul
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Posted: 10/21/2005 3:22:10 PM
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... or rather, weird_guy_in_the_corner's excellent article on the stupid character. High on info, plus I laughed my butt off. Until I reached the pictures of EWS' cartoon alter ego having a meaningful relationship with Zig Zag, that is. I've seen about two of those before, but seven of them? It just screams HAY GUYS I'M IN LOVE WITH A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. That was sad. So I stopped laughing my butt off, and contemplated the sadness and loneliness inherent in those pics. And then laughed some more.
Good work, weird_guy_in_the_corner! |
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baserock love
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Posted: 10/21/2005 8:03:18 PM
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... or rather, weird_guy_in_the_corner's excellent article on the stupid character. High on info, plus I laughed my butt off. Until I reached the pictures of EWS' cartoon alter ego having a meaningful relationship with Zig Zag, that is. I've seen about two of those before, but seven of them? It just screams HAY GUYS I'M IN LOVE WITH A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. That was sad. So I stopped laughing my butt off, and contemplated the sadness and loneliness inherent in those pics. And then laughed some more.
Good work, weird_guy_in_the_corner!
YEah, it would appear tdk has a cloudchaseresque unhealthy fixation on a character that doesn't exist. Now the question is, which one of these fantasy babes is a bigger slut? Sucking off random job applicants is defenitely not as slutty as fucking dogs, i go with Vixina for teh win.
If i was going to have a romantic fixation on a fictional character I would defenitely choose one that every guy on earth hasn't fucked just like I wouldn't (normally) date a complete slut in RL. Of course there are no female characters in the furry fandom that aren't complete and utter whores are there? And in RL a furry takes what he can get slut or no. |
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Stoneth
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Posted: 10/21/2005 8:36:23 PM
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You know, I actually got the chance to look through the "Bible of Zig Zag" when Max Blackrabbit was GoH of Conifur 2001. Half of the book had depictions of Zig Zag from various artists and the other half was EWS. Even long before I joined this monolithic antifurry group I was sickened to see page after page of Eric's obsession with this tiger-striped skunk. Pathetic, really. |
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Charisma
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Posted: 10/21/2005 9:11:32 PM
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That definately made me chuckle, especially the end part of that fan fiction where the perspective changed abruptly.
The funny thing is, the article made me like her <i>more</i>.
FAIL! |
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Paul
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Posted: 10/21/2005 10:32:55 PM
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If i was going to have a romantic fixation on a fictional character I would defenitely choose one that every guy on earth hasn't fucked just like I wouldn't (normally) date a complete slut in RL. Of course there are no female characters in the furry fandom that aren't complete and utter whores are there?
There's EWS's very own Sabrina - a virgin until she met her one and only boyfriend. I assumed she was sorta the furry version of EWS's ideal RL girlfriend - nice demure girl, Amiga geek and all - but now I don't know.
I guess the idea of a total whore for a girlfriend appeals to some guys, a "everyone has the hots for her, but she's mine!" thing. Or something. I dunno. My brain hurts now. |
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5thehardway
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Posted: 10/21/2005 10:50:05 PM
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I think my favorite thing about this whole mess is that it reinforces the old chestnut that women who are avidly interested in sex are so because they've been abused. Remember, kids: female sexuality is always pathological in some way!
No, actually, this was my favorite part:
Sabrina says, "Hi", chats with me for a moment, then it's off to the studios for a tour.
LAFFO |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 10/22/2005 3:39:52 AM
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Oy.
It's crazy, I tell ya. Reminds me of this dude on the board I used to moderate...really and truly believed he was in a commited relationship with a chicken.
Aw, Eric...you crazy old coot! You seem to render pencil-drawn spooge just like ol' TDK!
Hmm... :wink: |
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Monkey King
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Going as far as to draw even one picture of your "fursona" having an extremely intimate relationship with one of your characters is creepy. A whole series suggests an unhealthy fixation. Max is still single, I presume?
If nobody wanted to fuck Zig Zag when she was a prostitute, wouldn't it also follow that people wouldn't want to see her in a porno either? That was a pretty quick cultural revolution if suddenly everybody wants a piece of tiger-striped ass. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 10/22/2005 8:53:17 AM
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Max is still single, I presume?
Nope.
Meet Kitty Blackrabbit.
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bobby
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Posted: 10/22/2005 8:54:06 AM
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Max is still single, I presume?
Nope.
Meet Kitty Blackrabbit.
Wow it's like a juvenile version of Tygger Graf |
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Foxid
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Posted: 10/22/2005 8:57:07 AM
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It's like she's trying to decide whether to beat you to death with the Pixiestix before or after she sucks the sweet, sweet calories from their plastic prision. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 10/22/2005 9:01:03 AM
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It's like she's trying to decide whether to beat you to death with the Pixiestix before or after she sucks the sweet, sweet calories from their plastic prision.
You have no idea how hard you just made me laugh.
I'm serious. |
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V3Ng3
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Posted: 10/22/2005 2:18:41 PM
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Max is still single, I presume?
Nope.
Meet Kitty Blackrabbit.
Holy hell, I thought Max had just really let himself go before I realized that was a woman. |
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AngryPuritan
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Posted: 10/22/2005 5:14:34 PM
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It's like she's trying to decide whether to beat you to death with the Pixiestix before or after she sucks the sweet, sweet calories from their plastic prision.
I assumne she knows Glaide. |
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5thehardway
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Posted: 10/22/2005 5:59:00 PM
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Max is still single, I presume?
Nope.
Meet Kitty Blackrabbit.
Anyone else think of that "ugly girl" character Jamie Foxx used to play on In Living Color? |
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The New Meat
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Posted: 10/22/2005 8:40:32 PM
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Where's her septum???? |
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SLaitila
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Posted: 10/23/2005 4:27:08 PM
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Meet Kitty Blackrabbit.
She'd make an excellent match with my avatar. |
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CI
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Posted: 10/23/2005 5:26:48 PM
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Laughed like a drain. :) Until I saw the EWS pics.
Kitty Blackrabbit: Mm...mmooo...?
I'm noticing slight discrepancies with her and the fursona badges (?). Not just the fur. |
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Goofy
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Lips by Steven Tyler.
She don't want to miss a thing. |
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Duck Stab
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Posted: 10/23/2005 10:05:44 PM
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Look at it this way: at least Max has a real girlfriend.
I think that may just be a bad photograph. |
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baserock love
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Posted: 10/23/2005 10:15:02 PM
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Look at it this way: at least Max has a real girlfriend.
I think that may just be a bad photograph.
Unless it was taken at one of those circus fun-houses with the really wide mirrors i would say it can only be a relatively accurate photograph. There isn't a wide angle or fisheye lense on earth that could turn a normal person into that. I hope she doesn't do cocaine, it will probably bypass her sinuses (assuming she has them) and lodge directly onto her brain.
But hey, he's got a girlfriend, more than I can say. I probably have more casual sex than he does though. Isn't max a pretty skinny guy? I seem to recall that. I'm a skinny guy and i don't get how others of my ilk can date such globular girls. I would never date a girl that i couldn't pull from a burning car wreck, or dip her down with her back over my arm to plant a big leaning kiss, or have her perform a reverse cowboy for that matter. |
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Middy
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Posted: 10/24/2005 1:10:20 AM
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Max is still single, I presume?
Nope.
Meet Kitty Blackrabbit.
Holy crap, she looks like my ex-girlfriend really let herself go. Probably just as batshit insane too. |
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Computolio
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SLaitila
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Posted: 10/24/2005 8:46:37 AM
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or have her perform a reverse cowboy for that matter.
The sheer thought of that makes my testicles, hips and practically the whole middle section of my body cringe in bone-crushing, blinding pain. |
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CousinTed
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Posted: 10/25/2005 12:29:09 AM
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Look at it this way: at least Max has a real girlfriend.
I think that may just be a bad photograph.
Yes, but why would someone snap a picture of her just as she was digging into two succulent, king-sized ham-hocks...Oh wait, those are her lips! Why have you foresaken me god!?!? |
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AngryPuritan
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Has it occured to anyone he many like them big? Some guys do. |
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Barry Scott
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Posted: 10/25/2005 2:57:35 AM
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Has it occured to anyone he many like them big? Some guys do.
*Looks at Max's artwork*
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Nah! |
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creature
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Posted: 10/25/2005 3:27:38 PM
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Dude! I thought that was his sister the way those two act around each other.
*shudder* |
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Has it occured to anyone he many like them big? Some guys do.
Nothing wrong with that. I like a woman with curves, so I can understand it. Just... damn sometimes you gotta ask'em to push back from the table. |
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Monkey King
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Posted: 10/26/2005 2:07:42 AM
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Some guys like a little junk in the trunk, but here it looks like an obsessive-compulsive hoarder got ahold of the whole car. |
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The New Meat
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Has it occured to anyone he many like them big? Some guys do.
She doesn't look too big to me, especially not for a furry chick. But I'm more perplexed by her Bruce Campbell-esqque chin to be honest. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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and what's with the moustache :cry: |
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CousinTed
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And the lips, dear god the LIPS!!! |
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Mastertran
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You know for fun I translated Zig-Zag's bio into that strange tongue of Cockney with my handy Cockney-lator http://www.whoohoo.co.uk/
Childhood: zig zag was born into a poverty-stricken family, the bloody oldest of carpet children. bein' the bleedin' only wahn ter 'ave such a peculiar fur pattern, she was often the object of ridicule, or awe. 'er parents were ashamed of 'er and didn't do much ter Duck And Dive thier shame from young zig. she felt she should stay inside the gaff most of the nickle and dime but was usually chased aahhht by 'er father. she 'ad few friends and cherished any nickle and dime they could spend together, they were the only people 'oo didn't make 'er Orange Peel Sorry and Sad ter be different but ter be part of this lil' gang, they renamed 'er zig zag ter reflect 'er personality and stripe pattern. for 'er, it was better than 'er real name and wore it proudly. zig zag was part-time mom in 'er family, even at an Liz Hurley age, as 'er father was often aahhht or too busy wallowin' in self-pity ter 'elp 'round the gaff and mom was too scared ter move chicken pen dad was Pope in Rome and too 'ysterical most of the ovver times. zig zag often cried whenever she thought she'd gra up aahhht loike either of 'er parents. in this lil' broken gaff, she started 'er dreams of wahn day breakin' aahhht and makin' it big.
Somehow this is actually less fun than the real text. |
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DracoXII
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Somehow this is actually less fun than the real text.
Normaly some things are far more fun to read in cockney, even some songs are far more entertaining in the cockney style but your right, some how this isnt.
Maybe it detracts from the inate humour in furry back stories sutch as ZigZags. |
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The New Meat
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Totally unrelated, but WILLYSILVER???
WILLYSILVER????
WILLIBALD FIEVAL?????????
Oh, and who goes to a job interview in his best SHORTS? |
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DracoXII
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Oh, and who goes to a job interview in his best SHORTS?
Some one who does not have a job, cannot get a job and wonders why he never gets jobs but still holds faith in thier best shorts. |
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ChildEatingMonster
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*brings topic back*
I remember when I first found Sabrina online (like 6 years ago) and sat and read through all of the strips, as I usually do with online comics After I got finished, I went through and started to look through erics gallery of imagery. One of the first ones I saw was the pic of zig zag licking erics face ( I think its the third one in the area of the article with all the obsession pictures.)
It made me very very sad and never return to the site again. That was actually the image that first made me ever think that there may be something wrong with furry. :( |
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baserock love
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*brings topic back*
I remember when I first found Sabrina online (like 6 years ago) and sat and read through all of the strips, as I usually do with online comics After I got finished, I went through and started to look through erics gallery of imagery. One of the first ones I saw was the pic of zig zag licking erics face ( I think its the third one in the area of the article with all the obsession pictures.)
It made me very very sad and never return to the site again. That was actually the image that first made me ever think that there may be something wrong with furry. :(
Your lucky, i saw tons of images before i thought that it was a huge problem in furry. I just assumed there was a lot of weirdos online. There are a lot of weirdos online but a large amount of them are furries, that's what CYD has taught me. |
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Stoneth
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The first ever furry smut image I'd ever seen in my life was by Eric Schwartz going under the pseudonym of "Wakko Warner". A pic featuring Minerva Mink and Wilford Wolf doing the horizontal mambo. Back then I had no idea what the furry fandom was. I had just found it on a were's page because back then I was interested in weres. |
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baserock love
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The first ever furry smut image I'd ever seen in my life was by Eric Schwartz going under the pseudonym of "Wakko Warner". A pic featuring Minerva Mink and Wilford Wolf doing the horizontal mambo. Back then I had no idea what the furry fandom was. I had just found it on a were's page because back then I was interested in weres.
I've seen that pic, before i even took the whole thing in i knew it was TDKschwartz. No wonder that guy failed as an animator/cartoonist. He only seems to have one style and seems incapable of using other peoples or making up a new one.
What is the fucking point of using psuedonymns if your going to draw in the exact same fucking style. His style isn't even warnerbros, it's highly derivative of WB style but could never be mistaken for something official even if it wasn't rife with splooge spewing tentacles. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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The first ever furry smut image I'd ever seen in my life was by Eric Schwartz going under the pseudonym of "Wakko Warner". A pic featuring Minerva Mink and Wilford Wolf doing the horizontal mambo. Back then I had no idea what the furry fandom was. I had just found it on a were's page because back then I was interested in weres.
Ha, I thought that was him. I mean, obviously, the art style is lick for lick Eric Schwartz, but I didn't recognize his other alias. |
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Jerry Collins
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"Zig-zag"...big whoop:roll: ,I've thrown better stuff away in my trash can!And I'm not being egomaniacial about this,honestly,I HAVE thrown better art into the ash can than that" thing"(or had given to Kevin Duane,which about amount to the same thing)...It seems the lamer the character,the more the uber-nerds and fan geeks gush over it(and not just teh phurries)....ghad!the unrelenting HORROR!!!!! :shock: :roll: :wink: |
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Ebonyleopard
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"Zig-zag"...big whoop:roll: ,I've thrown better stuff away in my trash can!And I'm not being egomaniacial about this,honestly,I HAVE thrown better art into the ash can than that" thing"(or had given to Kevin Duane,which about amount to the same thing)...It seems the lamer the character,the more the uber-nerds and fan geeks gush over it(and not just teh phurries)....ghad!the unrelenting HORROR!!!!! :shock: :roll: :wink:
ROTFLOL "I've thrown better stuff away in my trash can!" Snicker, who's art you bought that you threw away? |
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I found the original Mona Lisa by DaVinci in my attic. I couldn't find any buyers... So I tossed it into the rubbish pile by the curb.
Seriously, I thought Eric Schwartz has been dead for 3 years. But then those pics of him were posted. |
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I found the original Mona Lisa by DaVinci in my attic. I couldn't find any buyers... So I tossed it into the rubbish pile by the curb.
Seriously, I thought Eric Schwartz has been dead for 3 years. But then those pics of him were posted.
He's alive. I just thought Jerry was comparing his *snicker* 'art' to Max's.
What's up with getting on Max anyway, I've never heard of anyone complaining about him being a jerk to anybody online or off it. Heck, if anything, he's too nice. |
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Paul
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Seriously, I thought Eric Schwartz has been dead for 3 years.
So it's really TDK doing Sabrina Online in Schwartz' name? It's all coming together now... |
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I found the original Mona Lisa by DaVinci in my attic. I couldn't find any buyers... So I tossed it into the rubbish pile by the curb.
Seriously, I thought Eric Schwartz has been dead for 3 years. But then those pics of him were posted.
He's alive. I just thought Jerry was comparing his *snicker* 'art' to Max's.
What's up with getting on Max anyway, I've never heard of anyone complaining about him being a jerk to anybody online or off it. Heck, if anything, he's too nice.
Whaaat? Nobody's attacking Max, or his behavior; they're just critting a particular character of his, Zig Zag. |
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Oh, and who goes to a job interview in his best SHORTS?
The same guys who will ask their interviewer if "my drug test is going to be a problem"
Also, possibly programmers. |
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Jerry Collins
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:D Hey! Monikakitty! Good to see you here again kiddo :D Welcome back gal! :D .... |
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