Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

I finally got a chance to see "Kaze, Ghost Warrior" at a local anime con this past weekend*.

Ummm... What was that producer's name again? I don't think his name was mentioned QUITE enough in the end credits!

*(For the record, I'm not really into anime, I just went to chaperone my kid brother who is)

LoKi · Venter Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 262

Internet by Timothy Albee

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I heard the offical count for his name inthe end credits was something like 212 times.

Banrai · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 560

From what I heard, he lives in like Alaska or something, and animated all of that in his spare (read:ALL THE) time.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Yes, and instead of going out and getting help, he also did all the voice acting... and music... and he wrote the plot (hint: it's the pseudo-wapanese crap). Heaven forbid we think of teamwork. Oh, and the fandcom is just sucking his cock and fueling his ego that much more over it.

It took him six months on two computers... and it looks like it took him six months on two computers.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

I'm trying to download this thing off of Limewire so I can see for myself how bad it is. I'm not paying for a DVD.

Ray Prower · Prattler Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 166

I heard the offical count for his name inthe end credits was something like 212 times.

Oh my god that is just ridiculous. SCREENS PLEASE. (Because there's no way I'm downloading that crap)

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Full text of credits here.

ASSISTANT TO MR. ALBEE - Timothy Albee

NOW THERE'S A MAN WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

EDITORIAL MANAGER-Timothy Albee
FIRST ASSISTANT EDITOR-Timothy Albee
SECOND ASSISTANT EDITOR-Timothy Albee

Reminds me of when Hitler put himself in charge of an army group on the Eastern front, and a division within... So the chain of command went Division leader (Hitler) -> Army Group commander (Hitler) -> Head of the Wermarcht (Hitler) -> Fuhrer (Hitler). :lol:

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

ASSISTANT TO MR. ALBEE - Timothy Albee

THERAPIST TO MR. ALBEE - Timothy Albee

Well? Did he find himself to have Asperger's?

adabsurdum · Rasophore Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 53

ADDITIONAL THERAPY
Rascal
Peter Pan
Wolf
Strawberry
Toby
Mojo

"Well, well, well, Strawberry. Time for a little sexual healing!" :lol:

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

ADDITIONAL THERAPY
Rascal
Peter Pan
Wolf
Strawberry
Toby
Mojo

"Well, well, well, Strawberry. Time for a little sexual healing!" :lol:

I really fucking hope those are the names of his pets.

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 264

I finally got a chance to see "Kaze, Ghost Warrior" at a local anime con this past weekend*.

Ummm... What was that producer's name again? I don't think his name was mentioned QUITE enough in the end credits!

*(For the record, I'm not really into anime, I just went to chaperone my kid brother who is)

Hey, if I did all the work on that thing, I'd have my name all over the place too. Besides, it's obvious he was just having some fun with it anyway. It's quite an impressive piece of work for a one man job.

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

It's quite an impressive piece of work for a one man handjob.

Fixed. Now, the question was asked: why the fan flocking to 22 minutes of fiction? Why did a quarter hour of exposure warrant such adoration?

No, he's gay. Trust me, the creator was quite clear about that at AC this year.

Oh, that's why. Kaze is such a dreamboat, isn't he? *murrrrrrrr*

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

I haven't seen it, but despite various other editorial remarks, I'm firmly convinced that it can't be that good simply because of all the self-felatio going on in those credits. He could have just said "Everything done by Timothy Albee, except for this and this and this, which were done by so-and-so."

Is it really choreography when you're directing yourself?

nopedestrian · Prattler Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

This is great.

FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHY SUPERVISOR-Timothy Albee
WEAPON DESIGN-Timothy Albee
MARTIAL ARTIST-Timothy Albee
FIRST AID-Timothy Albee

Oh tim.

Now if only he didn't take the rest of it so damned seriously.

Kadius · Needs to get out more Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 911

Good to see he used traditional japanese names.

Oh wait, he probably never bothered to learn the scheme of japanese names.

KAZE:
Primary Species: Tiger
Secondary Species: Tiger
Age: Unknown, (perhaps N/A)
Height: 6'9"
Weight: 260 lbs.
Eye Color: Yellow-Green
Occupation: Killer
Hobbies: Unknown

UNKNOWN. AND he's works as a killer. Oooh.

Then you scroll down on another page and there's an 'interview.'
TAFA: What would you say is the primary motivating factor in your life?
Kaze: Honor.

Random japanese word used as a name, CHECK. 'Honor is everything' stereotype, CHECK.

I doubt it's possible for anyone to grasp the full scope of this thing's awfulness without seeing it. Which makes me want to see it. :?

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Doesn't 'Kaze' mean 'Wind'? Ironic he should name his first character after hot-air.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

I just finished watching the "film" and all I can say is: Wow, what an overblown, pretentious piece of crap. I really can't describe how stupid the whole thing is. Of course, since we live in a post-modern, pseudo-intellectual society, everyone is giving this steaming pile rave reviews. Reading an interview with Albee assures me that this guy is a real flower child, since he spent all of his time sitting in a one room cabin 20 miles north of Fairbanks.

Apparently, there's a sequel and a video game spin-off in the works. I'm not kidding.

Kadius · Needs to get out more Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 911

Doesn't 'Kaze' mean 'Wind'? Ironic he should name his first character after hot-air.

Yup. And I've never heard it used in a name or surname. 'Huh huh, I know a japanese word. I'd better use it over and over' SUGOI KAWAII NEKO BISHII NE? NANI? GOMEN

Never once have have I heard someone say something was 'Suteki' or apologise with 'Sumanai.'

Iruka wa iru ka?

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

Never once have have I heard someone say something was 'Suteki' or apologise with 'Sumanai'.

Totally off topic: A friend taking a Japanese course in college had the difference between "Sumanai" and "Gomenasai" explained thusly:
"Sumanai" is what you say when you step on someone's toe.
"Gomenasai" is what you say when you've killed their cat.

(yeah, spelled wrong, w/e)

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

Doesn't 'Kaze' mean 'Wind'? Ironic he should name his first character after hot-air.

Indeed it does, but no one names their kid "Kaze" in Japan. Kazehiro, perhaps. Heck, even "Fujin" would have worked if Misuta Wapanese Albee-San wanted to name his main character something having to do with wind.

You know, in Japanese animation sometimes they name characters random English words as is the case in Lamune where you had characters named Cocoa, Milk and Cafe Au Lait. Then again, I don't suppose they do that to take themselves seriously since most Japanese animation is meant for little kids.

I'd still like to see Kaze: Ghost Warrior out of curiousity to see what one guy can do alone with two computers running Lightwave. I'm sure as hell not going to buy the DVD without seeing it as my expectations of it aren't that high.

Goofy · Vociferator Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 311

Reading the credits to Kaze is like when John Malkovich jumps into his own mind.

Only more retarded-ish.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

If it was done with sock-puppets it would've been infinitely better.

MikeyTheCat · Rasophore Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 62

If it was done with sock-puppets it would've been infinitely better.

Everything is better with sock puppets.

TheBobSays · Venter Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 236

If it was done with sock-puppets it would've been infinitely better.
Everything is better with sock puppets.

Agreed. Also: we need more CYD articles with sock puppets. Whenever there's yet another bad web comic to review, sock puppets can be used to show the inner workings of the diseased mind.

id puppet: "Hey! Let's do a webcomic about our fetish!"
common sense puppet: "I don't know. We can't draw."
id puppet: "But nobody else does a webcomic with our specific dicknippled hermtaurs! Therefore, we'd be the best dicknippled hermtaur webcomic!"
common sense puppet: "That's it. I should have left ages ago."

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Primary Species: Tiger
Secondary Species: Tiger

What in the world does this even mean? What would a "secondary species" even be?

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

Primary Species: Tiger
Secondary Species: Tiger

What in the world does this even mean? What would a "secondary species" even be?

You know. Foxwolves. Slugtaurs. Furry inability to stay put with one damn animal. EDIT: Or their obsessive need to be unique. I mean, blue cats are cool, but when you've seen one million, you've seen 'em all.

Evil · Rasophore Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 62

There's a reason why real movies are made by more than one person. Kaze: Ghost Warrior is it.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

There's a reason why real movies are made by more than one person. Kaze: Ghost Warrior is it.

As snarky one-liners go, that's pretty good. But it's not true; there are many awesome animation shorts that are one person works. The difference is that the people who made them have a tad more talent than mr. Albee.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

There's a reason why real movies are made by more than one person. Kaze: Ghost Warrior is it.

As snarky one-liners go, that's pretty good. But it's not true; there are many awesome animation shorts that are one person works. The difference is that the people who made them have a tad more talent than mr. Albee.

Hey! It took a LOT of talent for him to pirate that copy of Poser. You'd better respect his bittorrenting skills!

Jerry Collins · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 548

But,You got ask youselves folks:"who really cares?" :roll:

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Hey! It took a LOT of talent for him to pirate that copy of Poser. You'd better respect his bittorrenting skills!

Lightwave. He's written books about it and he's actually pretty damn good with it.

But...

Kaze drifts far, far out of his core competency. He'd be fine as an animator but Albee fails on most every level as a writer, director, or sound engineer.

The Flying Fox · Coadjutor Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 93

I liked the light effects though, pretty snazzy. But it's just too pretentious to be liked by anyone outside his own fandom. Well, judging by the critics, someone outside liked it, but I don't know... I wouldn't pay to watch it, atleast.

Squizzle · Prattler Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 121

Of course, since we live in a post-modern, pseudo-intellectual society, everyone is giving this steaming pile rave reviews.

Not everybody is being suckered, thank goodness. See an Animation World Magazine article, for example, which fairly solidly lambasts it.

For bonus points, see also paulrus's funny comment accusing the author of "boost own self esteem find fault with others"; funny because the run-downs of the other four films are generally positive. "You've shown your true colors", indeed, haven't you paulrus?

And the other comment is in defence of Albee's overblown credit reel: further proof, as if you needed it, that furries ruin everything!

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 264

I haven't seen it, but despite various other editorial remarks, I'm firmly convinced that it can't be that good simply because of all the self-felatio going on in those credits. He could have just said "Everything done by Timothy Albee, except for this and this and this, which were done by so-and-so."

Is it really choreography when you're directing yourself?

Oddly enough the short video got a lot of mention in 3D Digital art magazines, one with a full front cover even. As well as a write up in Animation Magazine, so dispite the long self credits, he must have done something right to get mainstream animation recognition out side of anything remotely 'furry'.

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

Not everybody is being suckered, thank goodness. See an Animation World Magazine article, for example, which fairly solidly lambasts it.

I think he should really put "fans of plushies will love it." on the cover. That really says it all.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 658

I haven't seen it, but despite various other editorial remarks, I'm firmly convinced that it can't be that good simply because of all the self-felatio going on in those credits. He could have just said "Everything done by Timothy Albee, except for this and this and this, which were done by so-and-so."

Is it really choreography when you're directing yourself?

Oddly enough the short video got a lot of mention in 3D Digital art magazines, one with a full front cover even. As well as a write up in Animation Magazine, so dispite the long self credits, he must have done something right to get mainstream animation recognition out side of anything remotely 'furry'.

It's a fine piece of CGI, and even more so when you remember that he did it all single-handed, which is why it's receiving the attention it is. It shows what someone can do with current hardware and software outwith the mainstream animation industry. As to the Albee... Albee... Albee... in the credits, couldn't it be possible that it's just his little joke? Oh yeah, and another point in its favor: how many times has someone in the fandom announced some grandiose project which has fizzled out due to lack of interest and/or time?

Sadly, from all accounts the story seems to be a hokey cheese-fest, which is hardly surprising. Just because someone is a top notch animator or artist doesn't mean they know jack about writing.

wtf · Prattler Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 152

There's a reason why real movies are made by more than one person. Kaze: Ghost Warrior is it.

As snarky one-liners go, that's pretty good. But it's not true; there are many awesome animation shorts that are one person works. The difference is that the people who made them have a tad more talent than mr. Albee.

Baginski's Cathedral (2002 Oscar nominee, 15 months):

MagnusSkin · Prattler Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 106

Technology has come along way. You just need a vision and some good ideas.

As far as what a single person can do...
Seth MacFarlane wrote and animated the pilot to FAMILY GUY on his own.

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 264

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It's a fine piece of CGI, and even more so when you remember that he did it all single-handed, which is why it's receiving the attention it is. It shows what someone can do with current hardware and software outwith the mainstream animation industry. As to the Albee... Albee... Albee... in the credits, couldn't it be possible that it's just his little joke? Oh yeah, and another point in its favor: how many times has someone in the fandom announced some grandiose project which has fizzled out due to lack of interest and/or time?

Sadly, from all accounts the story seems to be a hokey cheese-fest, which is hardly surprising. Just because someone is a top notch animator or artist doesn't mean they know jack about writing.

This is true, the story as it is is somewhat week and it's short, (of course I wouldnt' imagine a solo animation project using what he did would exactly result in an hour long movie.) I think the majority of the write ups I read focused on the techniques he came up with for fur rendering.

As for the credits, come on, that's an obvious joke. I've never heard of him, prior, having some kind of crazed ego or anything concerning his work. Least I've never heard it reported from anywhere or those who know him.