Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

LoKi · Venter Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 262

Ok, I don't think anyone has posted this yet (I checked using Search) but here's another furry website that I noticed while perusing LJ:

Furry Broadcasting Corporation

Yea, I listened to the playlist for like three seconds until I realized 2 was on there. To be honest, I never listened to 2 ever since it never interested and it sounded like some guy going through puberty. Oh well.

Also, hi2u FAoD (Furry Army of Doom)

Tass · Prattler Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 178

Ok, I don't think anyone has posted this yet (I checked using Search) but here's another furry website that I noticed while perusing LJ:

Furry Broadcasting Corporation

Yea, I listened to the playlist for like three seconds until I realized 2 was on there. To be honest, I never listened to 2 ever since it never interested and it sounded like some guy going through puberty. Oh well.

Also, hi2u FAoD (Furry Army of Doom)

· Yiff Theatre Update

· Yiff Theatre Update

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

Ok, I don't think anyone has posted this yet (I checked using Search) but here's another furry website that I noticed while perusing LJ:

Furry Broadcasting Corporation

Yea, I listened to the playlist for like three seconds until I realized 2 was on there. To be honest, I never listened to 2 ever since it never interested and it sounded like some guy going through puberty. Oh well.

Also, hi2u FAoD (Furry Army of Doom)

The quality sounds extremely poor, compared to other streaming sites I listen to like AmpedOut and DI FM. But I only listened to their Java player so I have no clue of the winamp broadast. Good selection though, Nirvana, Korn, Static-X. Needs more NIN :wink:

I wonder if they have some kind of legitamate license or permission to broadcast copyrighted songs though.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

The quality sounds extremely poor, compared to other streaming sites I listen to like AmpedOut and DI FM. But I only listened to their Java player so I have no clue of the winamp broadast. Good selection though, Nirvana, Korn, Static-X. Needs more NIN :wink:

I wonder if they have some kind of legitamate license or permission to broadcast copyrighted songs though.

I take that back. I just heard a commercial for a "Sabrina Online" radio show, and now they're playing "Jingle Bell Rock"...Arg.

Jaie · Qualificator Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

The stream uses the MP3pro codec. However, if you use the Java Player, it will decode the stream using the LAME decoder. This will result in a poor audio feed. I would suggest that you listen to the stream using Winamp and the MP3pro plugin, which you can get from the following site. I will note that the music collection is always growing, so if you do have any more suggestions as far as songs or bands that we don't have, email them to me.

link: http://www.mp3prozone.com/

~Jaie

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

We want more yiffy theater!!111!! Who doesn't?

:roll:

The "speak of the devil" thing we've got going now is getting pretty annoying.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

The "speak of the devil" thing we've got going now is getting pretty annoying.

They've got a referrer tracker in the lower right-hand corner. The admin must have gotten curious of all the CYD urls.

Jaie · Qualificator Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

We want more yiffy theater!!111!! Who doesn't?

They've got a referrer tracker in the lower right-hand corner. The admin must have gotten curious of all the CYD urls.

More Yiff Theatre is on the way. Also, I am the admin and I do tend to check up on whoever is linking to my sites. Just a habit that I have.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

LOL

http://fbc.jaieproductions.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=84

CrazyBomber · Prattler Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 137

I've listened a little to that "radio station" on my Winamp and got bored to hell.
Thankfully, my playlist saved the day.

LoKi · Venter Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 262

We want more yiffy theater!!111!! Who doesn't?

They've got a referrer tracker in the lower right-hand corner. The admin must have gotten curious of all the CYD urls.

More Yiff Theatre is on the way. Also, I am the admin and I do tend to check up on whoever is linking to my sites. Just a habit that I have.

omghi2furries

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Wow. I never knew anyone could take things with !!111!! in them seriously. :shock:

CYD is so educational!

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

http://fbc.jaieproductions.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=84

Ok, I looked at the referers today and noticed that there's a new site that is linking to us. But I have no clue as to who these people are, if any of you could shed some light on this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

link: http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1728

On the off chance that Jaie checks this thread again: About CYD

(I assume someone will tell him soon enough that this is a hate site :wink: )

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

So....he doesn't know about the site and yet he's still prepared to think we're going to offer serious feedback? :lol:

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

I assume someone will tell him soon enough that this is a hate site :wink:

Yeah, there may be some hardcore haters in here, but to me it's not as much a hate site as it is a poke-fun-have-a-good-laugh-at-idiocy site.

We don't 'hate' furry

From that "about" page.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

http://fbc.jaieproductions.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=84

Ok, I looked at the referers today and noticed that there's a new site that is linking to us. But I have no clue as to who these people are, if any of you could shed some light on this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

link: http://www.crushyiffdestroy.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1728

On the off chance that Jaie checks this thread again: About CYD

(I assume someone will tell him soon enough that this is a hate site :wink: )

I know what you meant but the way you worded that actually makes it sound like we're a hate site

I mean there's a difference between hating something and going lol furries, quite frankly I rather enjoy furries.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

We don't 'hate' furry

From that "about" page.

Doesn't matter. This is still a hate site. Just check LiveJournal.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

We don't 'hate' furry

From that "about" page.

Doesn't matter. This is still a hate site. Just check LiveJournal.

Just like you're a woman hater.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

I am endlessly amused by all the furry peddlars who come in here thinking we're a target demographic. It's like passing out flyers for a gay bar in front of a Baptist church.

Jaie · Qualificator Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 3

Seeing as how i'm open minded to anything really, any feedback, serious or not, is worth listening to. And I really don't care if this is a "hate" site, which it's not from my understanding and delving into various other posts and pages here. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion, whether or not if someone else will like it or not. Now if you like the FBC, or if you hate it, that's fine by me. Nothing really bothers me. So, say what you want about the FBC. But in doing so remember this. If you think something sucks, but you're not willing to make it better, then don't whine about it. However, if you are willing to make it better, just send the people some sort of feedback telling them what you think about their "something." It will be better than hiding away somewhere else and just pointing fingers. Seriously, there's too much of that already going on as it is.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

Seeing as how i'm open minded to anything really, any feedback, serious or not, is worth listening to. And I really don't care if this is a "hate" site, which it's not from my understanding and delving into various other posts and pages here. Everyone has the right to voice their opinion, whether or not if someone else will like it or not. Now if you like the FBC, or if you hate it, that's fine by me. Nothing really bothers me. So, say what you want about the FBC. But in doing so remember this. If you think something sucks, but you're not willing to make it better, then don't whine about it. However, if you are willing to make it better, just send the people some sort of feedback telling them what you think about their "something." It will be better than hiding away somewhere else and just pointing fingers. Seriously, there's too much of that already going on as it is.

Like so many others who come one here trying to "set things right", take your own advice. Nobody from here posted in your forums, nobody trolled your site, nobody bothered you in any way.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

By the way, this is what their referrer tracker looked like this morning:

Brutalblowjobs.com, Asstraffic.com, and Spermswap.com?

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Referral spam. That's why making lists like that public is a bad idea.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Like so many others who come one here trying to "set things right", take your own advice. Nobody from here posted in your forums, nobody trolled your site, nobody bothered you in any way.

Does it matter? Fact is I've been looking around the site for a while, just kind of watching and to an extent, he or she is right. Despite the assertions in about page about this place not being a hate site, there certainly seems to be alot of it around on here. You just seem to sit here and point and pick at the dirty underbelly of a fandom that many of you seem to be firmly entrenched in, while others are just here to outright lambast. This site is crtical of the fandom in that respect, as I believe has been one of its stated goals, but it could be constructive with it, as critisism witout the aim of encouraging improvement is basically useless.

Just so that I don't fall victim to my own post, why don't some of you try taking some of your own advice. You could try to promote quality anthopomorphic work (although there is probably not that much to promote) as well as, god forbid, actually producing some and being a force for positive change.

I know that I'm going to regret posting this, but what the hell. Feel free to tear apart like a tasty Kentucky chicken wing.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

Just so that I don't fall victim to my own post, why don't some of you try taking some of your own advice. You could try to promote quality anthopomorphic work (although there is probably not that much to promote) as well as, god forbid, actually producing some and being a force for positive change.

Because the Burned Fur thing was so effective!

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

Like so many others who come one here trying to "set things right", take your own advice. Nobody from here posted in your forums, nobody trolled your site, nobody bothered you in any way.

Does it matter? Fact is I've been looking around the site for a while, just kind of watching and to an extent, he or she is right. Despite the assertions in about page about this place not being a hate site, there certainly seems to be alot of it around on here. You just seem to sit here and point and pick at the dirty underbelly of a fandom that many of you seem to be firmly entrenched in, while others are just here to outright lambast. This site is crtical of the fandom in that respect, as I believe has been one of its stated goals, but it could be constructive with it, as critisism witout the aim of encouraging improvement is basically useless.

Just so that I don't fall victim to my own post, why don't some of you try taking some of your own advice. You could try to promote quality anthopomorphic work (although there is probably not that much to promote) as well as, god forbid, actually producing some and being a force for positive change.

I know that I'm going to regret posting this, but what the hell. Feel free to tear apart like a tasty Kentucky chicken wing.

Yerf had some pretty good quality artwork - back in 1999
I checked out donotsue's site, and I enjoy the art.
Kevin and Kell is an awesome webcomic
As for myself, I am just a fan. I do not produce anything myself. My time is taken up by my wife, kids, and job. About the only thing I produce is electronic music and open source software. My drawing and storywriting skills are TEH LAME.
If the guy wants constructive critisism, I can say this:
If you are going to use free script-kiddie type web apps like phpnuke and the like, use a theme that doesn't clash, practice good web development skills, and make sure the navigation section is always within easy reach and in an obvious area.

There, I've said my piece.

nopedestrian · Prattler Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 106

If you think something sucks, but you're not willing to make it better, then don't whine about it.

Those goddamn music and movie critics, always blabbing away, never DOING anything about it : (

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I am endlessly amused by all the furry peddlars who come in here thinking we're a target demographic. It's like passing out flyers for a gay bar in front of a Baptist church.

Yeah, but on some level, it still works...

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

Like so many others who come one here trying to "set things right", take your own advice. Nobody from here posted in your forums, nobody trolled your site, nobody bothered you in any way.

Does it matter? Fact is I've been looking around the site for a while, just kind of watching and to an extent, he or she is right. Despite the assertions in about page about this place not being a hate site, there certainly seems to be alot of it around on here. You just seem to sit here and point and pick at the dirty underbelly of a fandom that many of you seem to be firmly entrenched in, while others are just here to outright lambast. This site is crtical of the fandom in that respect, as I believe has been one of its stated goals, but it could be constructive with it, as critisism witout the aim of encouraging improvement is basically useless.

Just so that I don't fall victim to my own post, why don't some of you try taking some of your own advice. You could try to promote quality anthopomorphic work (although there is probably not that much to promote) as well as, god forbid, actually producing some and being a force for positive change.

I know that I'm going to regret posting this, but what the hell. Feel free to tear apart like a tasty Kentucky chicken wing.

I'm just here to be entertained.

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

Just so that I don't fall victim to my own post, why don't some of you try taking some of your own advice. You could try to promote quality anthopomorphic work (although there is probably not that much to promote) as well as, god forbid, actually producing some and being a force for positive change.

Because the Burned Fur thing was so effective!

Except that from the information I've managed to gather, as well as from this site's own articles, the Burned Furs were about vitriole, bile and trying to force people out of the furry fandom, rather than producing quality work and distancing themselves from that aspect of Anthropomorphism (the Furry part) that seemed to be sliding downhill.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

No, the burned furs were about imposing their self-righteous non-porn view of phurridumb on others, even people who weren't into furry. They actually created more disgust for the fandom than they prevented.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

I assume someone will tell him soon enough that this is a hate site :wink:

Yeah, there may be some hardcore haters in here, but to me it's not as much a hate site as it is a poke-fun-have-a-good-laugh-at-idiocy site.

(I assume someone will tell him soon enough that this is a hate site :wink: )

I know what you meant but the way you worded that actually makes it sound like we're a hate site

I mean there's a difference between hating something and going lol furries, quite frankly I rather enjoy furries.

I know, I know. The "hate site" thing is just a running joke on the forum because CYD's been accused of being just that quite often. Like weird_guy_in_the_corner says, just check LiveJournal - for instance here. So I do think it probable that some furry fundamentalist might post on Jaie's own forum and tell him that CYD is a hate site. My sincere apologies for not phrasing that more clearly.

Obviously, with a few exceptions, no one here hates furries. I certainly don't. Furries taking furry way too seriously provide me with free entertainment, and that's a good thing. Even the few totally whacked-out furries like EbonLupus bring on a shake of the head rather than hate.

Which brings me to this:

Despite the assertions in about page about this place not being a hate site, there certainly seems to be alot of it around on here. You just seem to sit here and point and pick at the dirty underbelly of a fandom that many of you seem to be firmly entrenched in, while others are just here to outright lambast. This site is crtical of the fandom in that respect, as I believe has been one of its stated goals, but it could be constructive with it, as critisism witout the aim of encouraging improvement is basically useless.

Just so that I don't fall victim to my own post, why don't some of you try taking some of your own advice. You could try to promote quality anthopomorphic work (although there is probably not that much to promote) as well as, god forbid, actually producing some and being a force for positive change.

It's not my site or my job to define it, but I've been around enough to know this is basically a comedy site with a bit of serious analysis and armchair psychology thrown in for good measure. Which means:
A) We exaggerate when dealing with fandom horrors for the sake of fun. Don't take this place seriously.
B) We're not here to save or improve the furry fandom. That, as has been pointed out, is a lost cause anyway. Furry fandom, as a whole, is not interested in being improved. The perverts and nutjobs a running the show, and the sane people who are still in it take what they find interesting and do their best to ignore the nutters (or they join the CYD forum under an alias and laugh at them).

And as I've said before, there's plenty of good anthropomorphic/funny animal art & comics out there that have fuckall to do with furry. You do not need furry fandom to get your dose of anthropomorphic animals.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

You do not need furry fandom to get your dose of anthropomorphic animals.

Yeah, all I gotta do is go play a gamecube.

Trista · Prattler Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 156

If it was a hate site, there'd have a counter proclaiming how long Wabbit's been rotting in hell or something like that. Hate sites are far scarier. And less funny.

Well, unless they're parodies like godhatesfigs.com or something...

Lowkey · Qualificator Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 38

B) We're not here to save or improve the furry fandom. That, as has been pointed out, is a lost cause anyway. Furry fandom, as a whole, is not interested in being improved. The perverts and nutjobs a running the show, and the sane people who are still in it take what they find interesting and do their best to ignore the nutters (or they join the CYD forum under an alias and laugh at them).

And as I've said before, there's plenty of good anthropomorphic/funny animal art & comics out there that have fuckall to do with furry. You do not need furry fandom to get your dose of anthropomorphic animals.

I'm not really talking about improving the fandom though. Despite whatever its roots may be, it is now in essence the sexual/fetishistic side of animal anthropomoprhism. I did not suggest that anyone save it. It is what it is and it will most likely never change. However, I do believe that there are some things mixed in there that are needlessy so. Things that maybe worth something if lifted from the morass.

I better just stop here before I start rambling/writing and essay/confusing myself. I'll just finish by saying that sitting here, pointing, critisising and making fun of a small sub-cluture for basically the amusement of a small clique, alot of whom are immersed in self same sub-culture just seems... wasteful.

Then again I'm the one sitting here critisising you for doing so and I may very well be the bigger fool for doing so. It's not as if you're going to heed critisim any more than they are. I think I'm going to go and fill half a notebook with practice sketches, plot outlines and scripts now. I've just decided that I have a graphic novel to finish planning.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

...I'll just finish by saying that sitting here, pointing, critisising and making fun of a small sub-cluture for basically the amusement of a small clique, alot of whom are immersed in self same sub-culture just seems... wasteful....

Well, there's a lot of people posting on CYD, attracted by many reasons to this forum. Some of them are here just to point and laugh, as you say, some others are into furry but don't mind pointing and laugh, and there are also those who were once part of the furry fandom because of their fondness for anthtropomorphics and felt so disappointed from it that preferred to oficcially retire from it because they didn't feel identified with it anymore.

I like to think I fall on that latter category. And I still like anthropomorphics, and ocassionally enjoy anthropomorphic stuff I find around, and draw them within the limits of the style I've chosen, and yet, still post on CYD now and then. I honestly don't know why do you think posting on CYD excludes being positive with the creation or enjoyment of anthropomorphic stuff, whatever its nature.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

I do believe that there are some things mixed in there that are needlessy so. Things that maybe worth something if lifted from the morass.

I agree, but then that's the decision of the artists in question (partially combined with furries' proclivity for appropriating non-furry works and declaring them to be furry). Some people start out in furrydumb, realize it's going nowhere, and leave to pursue more constructive venues for their art (e.g. Scotty Arsenault or Kelly Hamilton). Others have most of their readers/costumers in furrydumb and continue to deal with it, even though they aren't really furries (e.g. Amber Panyko). It's their choice, and who are we to say you can't make dealings in furry fandom.

I'll just finish by saying that sitting here, pointing, critisising and making fun of a small sub-cluture for basically the amusement of a small clique, alot of whom are immersed in self same sub-culture just seems... wasteful.

Nothing wasteful about having a lark. :) Also, what m_estrugo said.

I think I'm going to go and fill half a notebook with practice sketches, plot outlines and scripts now. I've just decided that I have a graphic novel to finish planning.

Well, good luck. And I mean that sincerely.

nothingkat · Qualificator Joined: 30 Mar 2004 Posts: 29

I like to think that pretty much EVERYONE who signs up and writes on these forums as pretty much being a furry. And as weird as "not that furry" may sound, that could easily apply to everyone here. I remember once being completely into this fandom, digging everything about it. I fell into that "accept people for who they were no matter what" syndrome. It's funny that if you are vocal about the fandom at all in any negative way, then you are called an anti-fur (another stupid name). Or, as with this website, it's labelled a hate-site. Much like my own website, nothing will get the attention of those you want to get attention from faster than using down-to-the-bone harsh critisism.

Every now and then, you'll just meet someone who pokes fun at the fandom for the sake of poking fun and getting a reaction. While people can call that "trolling", I know there's a little truth behind mocking these people. Xydexx, Manawolf and so on take this fandom with such ease that you just WANT to smack them at every opportunity for helping support such a secretly filthy club without any sign of objection coming from them from ANY angle!

But in all honestly, I do believe everyone here really likes the furry fandom a lot. In fact, we probably like it that much more that we are willing to go against the grain to try to improve it despite it obviously looking to be a lost cause. To say that mocking the current status of it makes us anti-fur or furry haters or whatever is hilarious considering that EVERYONE is a fur here. People who weren't furs wouldn't give THIS much of a shit about the fandom.

Wow. Long.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

Back on topic, looks like the FBC changed it's layout a little bit, and got rid of the referrer box. Oh, and anonymous viewing of their forums is no longer permitted. (I assume the admin was a little peeved at us cuttting-and-pasting his quotes from it) Looks like we might have made somewhat of a difference after all.

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

Back when I first heard of The Burned Fur movement, I thought it was actually a good idea but I never got involved in the movment nor did I ever consider myself a Burned Fur.

Today I am older and a little bit wiser. I don't support any effort to clean up the fandom as a whole, rather I realize that the fandom is like a dumpster. It's mostly rubbish and stuff that would make you feel the need to vomit, but there are some treasures if you're willing to dive for it.

I'm a furry and I won't deny that I enjoy anthropomorphics, but as I told a certain person (whom I exchanged many emails with and shall remain anonymous) I don't come to CYD because I intend to be part of any solution nor do I wish to clean up the fandom. I come here for amusement. If someone points to an amusing rotting cantalope in the dumpster, I'm not going to give it a helpful critique and say how it could have been made better because what point is it in salvaging something that is rotten anyway?

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

where is that really stupid poster with the indian fox in front of the rainbow flag with the ghandi quote?

Octan · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

I assume you're talking about this.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Damn, you mean CYD can still host an intelligent discussion without ZenZhu being around to strap on our 'tard helmets for us first? Wow.

But yeah, labeling this as an ‘anti-furry’ or ‘hate’ site is a grave error of misunderstanding. Look on Encyclopedia Dramatica and we’re under the furry category for crying out loud. We do a great service to the fandom, I think. We provide an external social conscious that so many of them lack naturally. This is true for most geeks, but especially furries, and especially online. Unlike, say, Something Evil or Portal of Awful, the for purpose joining this website and forum is focused down to mocking the extremes of furry behavior, online or off, friend or foe, rain or shine.

Yet, the type of people and reasons folks come are extremely diverse. Some here surely are just people with too much time on their hands and an unnatural disposition to hate furries. Some, I’m sure just stumbled onto furry without previous knowledge and had a guttural “this is gross” reaction and feel the need to have social confirmation of their view before moving on. Neither of those types last long, the former tends to be just ‘LOL furries’ and usually will get banned for trolling. See the jughead from a while back. The later will leave to move on with their lives, and this is why we have so many users on the memberlist with only a handful of “ew” type posts.

However, the rest of us tend to gather here, despite differences, to mingle and share tall tales (tails?) about furry dipshittery because we either are in, were in, or hoped to once be in the fandom, or we just fancied anthropomorphic animals in general. Unlike the burned furs though, we make no demands of the fandom. CYD is not a terrorist site that will continually mock furries until Xydexx releases a list of political prisoners from his basement. That and few here who don’t have their heads in the clouds don’t actually expect anything to change with the fandom.

So why do we come, stay and mock that which will never get any better? Simple, we’re needed. A young furry might be just about to post a wonderful expose on how much he loves his SPHed Lion King plushie, and despite the fact he lacks the little voice in the back of his head that says “nobody wants to hear about that, don’t embarrass yourself”, he has the other concern of “don’t post that, the CYD guys will make fun of you”. The furries need us in myth more than in flesh, to keep themselves in line. It’s self regulation, through use of an social anxiety. It’s one of the reasons why CYD becomes the target of so many furry rants and ‘countertrolls’ despite their don’t-like-it-don’t-look-at-it dogma. Just like the child that runs to the aunt he knows is stricter than his mother, the furries crave boundaries.

That might sound a bit pretentious, but it’s the best explanation for why CYD still functions, and why it’s not universally ignored by furries.

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

I assume you're talking about this.

that's it

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

It's not that we hate furries. I think it would be more accurate to say we hate many, many people who happen to BE furries.

I'd be in favor of cleaning up the fandom, myself, but I know how much of a pipe dream that is. The people we're here laughing at have force of numbers, and organized movements like the Burned Furs are doomed to failure simply because there's too few stable individuals to organize. All you CAN do is sit at the fringes and play Statler and Woldorf.

Maybe someday someone will figure out a way to make people on the internet stop being stupid. When that idyllic era breaks, then inroads can be made into reworking the fandom. Otherwise, the most anyone can do is simply not be stupid themselves, and desperately hope leading by example has some sort of effect.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

RIGHT ONNNNNN \m/-_-\m/
Actually, I guess I'm a furry. I'm not ANYWHERE near as involved in the fandom as I was 2 years ago...I came into the fandom because I liked cartoon animals, and thought that's what this fandom was all about.
I was wrong, obviously, it's much more...and while I tried to go with the flow for a while, I began to become resentful of furry and trying to disassociate myself from it.
I still like cartoon animals, and I can enjoy anthro art and I like fursuits (not like that, crazy fucks)...so I guess I am still a furry, in a way.
And yet I still like to LOL at furries because COME ON THEYRE HILARIOUS

Octan · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 77

A young furry might be just about to post a wonderful expose on how much he loves his SPHed Lion King plushie, and despite the fact he lacks the little voice in the back of his head that says “nobody wants to hear about that, don’t embarrass yourself”, he has the other concern of “don’t post that, the CYD guys will make fun of you”.

Surely you jest. Do you really think, for a minute, that they actually care what we think? It's not like infamy here = infamy elsewhere in the fandom. More likely, infamy here = being regarded as a hero among their fellow furries, especially among those who consider us a hate site. They LIKE being taunted by CYD; they wear it like a badge. At least with SA/POE there's the possible fear of trolling.

But I digress. I say anyone who thinks we're really doing anyone a favor is crazy. That's not what we're here for; it never was:

This site was originally created for our own amusement

But hey, for those of you who expect this site to do any good, more power to ya. It means we're not entirely wasting our time here.

LoKi · Venter Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 262

As far as SA goes, you technically aren't supposed to troll as a member of SA. Making posts to a LJ saying "INVADE THIS SHIT" will get your ass banned the moment a mod sees that. It's a whole matter if a small percentage of a huge memberbase decides to troll it. Now, just remember that even 1% of SA's members who read that is a lot of comments for a LJ.

In regards for this website, I just use it to talk to people and poke fun at idiots who post stupid shit to the internet.

Lim-Dul · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 73

Surely you jest. Do you really think, for a minute, that they actually care what we think? It's not like infamy here = infamy elsewhere in the fandom. More likely, infamy here = being regarded as a hero among their fellow furries, especially among those who consider us a hate site. They LIKE being taunted by CYD; they wear it like a badge.

Sometimes I wonder why these furries bother to report about our little mockeries in the first place. The ZigZag article Weird Guy wrote proves to me that in someway, they do care what we think, but not for the sake of sanity...

We're just their moral booster...

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Let me phrase the idea differently. If it weren't for the late 90's mocking of furries by SA, PoE and I guess to a lesser extent and far less intrusive, CYD, do you think furries would be weirder or less weird than in their current state? Social pressure is a powerful thing, don't take it lightly.

(keep in mind their proven inability to police themselves when pondering that)

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

Let me phrase the idea differently. If it weren't for the late 90's mocking of furries by SA, PoE and I guess to a lesser extent and far less intrusive, CYD, do you think furries would be weirder or less weird than in their current state? Social pressure is a powerful thing, don't take it lightly.

(keep in mind their proven inability to police themselves when pondering that)

I'd say just as wierd, but you are probably right. It would seem even wierder because of the lack of restraint when posting a fetish to the web. But then again maybe those site's don't make any difference at all, just look at VCL. The world will never know...

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

Let me phrase the idea differently. If it weren't for the late 90's mocking of furries by SA, PoE and I guess to a lesser extent and far less intrusive, CYD, do you think furries would be weirder or less weird than in their current state? Social pressure is a powerful thing, don't take it lightly.

I really think they would be more wide-spread. I think without vocal places on the web pointing out the LOLS plenty of people, good and bad, would have been caught up in the darker aspects of Furry. There would be way more splooge art because there would be less danger of having people point and laugh. And the art forums that have since gotten rid of the porn would have felt less pressure to do so. Also, I think the feeling of "Anything goes" or "Every perversion is okay if you're one of us" would be more prominant. Thanks to the mockery, I would guess many more level headed furry fans realized just how fucked up it all is.

When I first heard of furry, I assumed it was the same as funny-animal type stuff I grew up with. It was through places like SA, Portal of Evil, and especially here that I saw the OTHER side, and I realized the kind of aberrant personalities that peopled the fandom and sexual perversions my innocent little brain had never fathomed. Thanks for that. <shudder>

In some aspects, the joke has gone to far. People on the "Ha Ha" side have become more obsessed with Gonterman, KAK, and others far more than is healthy.