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Abysmal Pea · Qualificator Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 18

Otaku vs. furry.
And possibly vs. Trekkies.

Are there many differences? (Besides tastes.) Do they both have drama? Do they have the same ratio of sick fucks to sane people? And, besides the professional stuff, is the average art quality the same?

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif

Each fandom has drama, asshattery, "celebrity" worship and sick fucks. Furry's problems are just more pronounced and unique. And by "unique" I mean fucked up.

Abysmal Pea · Qualificator Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 18

I never knew I could be considered more geeky than a man getting married in a Klingon costume.

Or erotic fanfic writers, for that matter. Fuck. I'm doomed.

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

IMHO, I think furries are below trekkies. I say that simply because most admirers of the series are somewhat intelligent thinkers themselves (just ask a trekkie about the real life problems and some solutions to actually implementing warp drive. You'll get some really good references to the theory of relativity and so forth) while most furries are just concerned with fapping to the latest FCHAN thread and debating the ethics of a recently released film (I won't mention it again) that doesn't even matter because it used CG wolves.

Zod God · Prattler Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 105

The furry equivalent of a reasoned scientific debate is over when science will advance to the point where they can have themselves surgically become furries. Some of them will swear its possible now and they are going to have it done.

I think one night on IRC one of them broke down into that night's drama queen , in between emote sobs and cries to god he talked about having his brain hooked up to a computer and just exist as the brain on the internet.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I don't know. To me, furry isn't so much a fandom as it is a subculture.
While Trekkies center in on one thing, Star Wars, furry doesn't have a central movie/tv show/character, but rather, an idea.
I have no clue what I'm talking about.

EDIT:
STAR TREK good lord what is wrong with me.

Donotsue · Needs to get out more Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 884

Furry is built around great ideals rather than one single movie! =)

A vision of better world where all live as equals...
Tentacly cubhermtaurs and dicknipply scatunbirthervorehorses!

Steady as she goes, mr Loli! Warped factor 9!

M0us3_Zero · Vociferator Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 437

Otaku vs. The world.

Now first off, I'm considering the word Otaku as to mean "Hopeless Anime Fan", and not just "Anime Fan".

Now, I've run into many Otaku. I've seen Many Otaku, and I can say with certainty that only Furries trump Otaku in the Drama, and Freakiness department.

I know the common Anime Fan, like myself, don't stoop to such levels, but I have seen guys in sailor fuku, crossdressing, and big sumo guys as Sailor Moon. While most of it is just the Fandom poking fun at itself (a healthy trait I believe), I have not seen Furry doing the same, since when one does, they get hit with the Fursecution hammer and get burned at the stake for heresy, then one fo the Fur-quaida strap a bomb to themselves and derka-derka on the ashes. Then those watching fap off to the whole spectacle.

I haven't known Trekkies to be warped, but a few of them scare me.

So on the spectrum of weird, I actually place it from least to most weird...

Trekker, Anime Fan, Trekkie, Otaku, Furry.

wtf · Prattler Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 152

I've seen an otaku yesterday. He has loads of a figurines and stuff, anime stickers on his computer. Okay. He had posters everywhere on the walls, like wallpaper. It happens, right?

But, he also had posters on all of his ceiling.

AND HE EVEN HAD POSTERS ON SOME OF A FUCKING FLOOR

But he's cleaning all this stuff and bathes regularly, you know. Also, he's very thin. And he doesn't have any sex with his cat, at least any I know about.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I've seen an otaku yesterday. He has loads of a figurines and stuff, anime stickers on his computer. Okay. He had posters everywhere on the walls, like wallpaper. It happens, right?

But, he also had posters on all of his ceiling.

AND HE EVEN HAD POSTERS ON SOME OF A FUCKING FLOOR

But he's cleaning all this stuff and bathes regularly, you know. Also, he's very thin. And he doesn't have any sex with his cat, at least any I know about.

Hey, I have a poster of a hot dude on the ceiling above my bed...it's pretty good for...
I just revealed WAY too much about myself, didn't I? :oops:

Donotsue · Needs to get out more Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 884

Is it of meeee and my tush? =)

Charisma · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 326

I've never heard of the word otaku before today...

although I suspect it has something to do with this right?:
http://kermit.pos.to/image/otaku.jpg

stinkweedskunk · Prattler Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 122

While Trekkies center in on one thing, Star Wars, furry doesn't have a central movie/tv show/character, but rather, an idea.
I have no clue what I'm talking about.

Don't you evar confuse Star Wars lamers with Trekkism again! :wink:

wtf · Prattler Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 152

I've never heard of the word otaku before today...

although I suspect it has something to do with this right?:
http://kermit.pos.to/image/otaku.jpg

Yeah, pretty much.

But in Japan otaku isn't just an anime fag, it's any crazy nerd of anything (furry otaku for example, if there's any).

Not really.

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

I know a number of anime fans and they are mostly okay. Unlike furries they seem to have a better grasp on the silliness of fandom. They don't seem to consider their hobby a social movement, or believe that they actually are large headed japanese school girl deep down underneath.

Also, unllike the rank fetid odour of furry, most of the otaku I know are pretty anal-retentive (as opposed to anally-fixated) and socially functional.

Still, the willingness of most male anime fans to dress up like their favorite female characters astounds and disturbs me.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

As far as I can tell, the word 'otaku' has the same purpose in Japanese than the word 'fanboy' in English. It's used to describe somebody so obsessed with something in particular -comics, movies, pornography, Internet, etc- that his whole life turns around that obsession.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 700

I'll admit to liking anime more than a little, but as far as taking that hobby seriously?

Well, all you gotta do is take a look at what me and my friends do at anime cons and my point is made clear:

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

This one rocks. :)

peppersprayed · Vociferator Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 369

The furry equivalent of a reasoned scientific debate is over when science will advance to the point where they can have themselves surgically become furries. Some of them will swear its possible now and they are going to have it done.

I think one night on IRC one of them broke down into that night's drama queen , in between emote sobs and cries to god he talked about having his brain hooked up to a computer and just exist as the brain on the internet.

oddly enough I'm horribly afraid of death and at some point will probably begin hoarding money to use to extend my life through any means neccesary.

I MUST LIVE!!

err sorry I like existing

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5901/russians33sa.jpg

I happen to like this one, comrade, but what's with the paint stains on the german coat?

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 700

Well, those came with it. I guess whichever german soldier person that had that coat was a painter or something. I got it at a surplus store for 15 bucks.

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

Best. Cosplay. Ever. =)

CrazyBomber · Prattler Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 137

Ready for almost anything...
P.S: The machete, the helmet and the gas mask aren't props.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 700

I see your

and raise you

Lim-Dul · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 73

That picture reminds me of Old Glory Robot Insurance, "Old Glory Insurance. For when the metal ones decide to come for you - and they will."

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

While Trekkies center in on one thing, Star Wars, furry doesn't have a central movie/tv show/character, but rather, an idea.
I have no clue what I'm talking about.

Don't you evar confuse Star Wars lamers with Trekkism again! :wink:

Oh shit! I knew that looked odd. I was thinking of Darth Vader again.
Whoops.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

Anime fanboys are above furries by 1/100000000000000000000000th of a nanometer.

vanilla rin · Qualificator Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 31

For every digusting, filthy, annoying anime fanboy I've seen (in real life; going to an anime convention is sort of asking for trouble), I can count a hand of worse furries.

I've also never been invited to an "otaku" orgy, however, upon a couple of local furries discovering my liking of anthropomorphic animal drawings, well... :cry:

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

True. Most otaku will not automatically assume that just because you kind of like anime you're going to want to sit down and watch something like La Blue Girl with them. Furries don't have that kind of social awareness.

AlbinoHagfish · Prattler Joined: 31 Jul 2005 Posts: 199

I've also never been invited to an "otaku" orgy, however, upon a couple of local furries discovering my liking of anthropomorphic animal drawings, well... :cry:

My ex went to a LAN party where there was some dude in fox ears and a tail making a big deal about his furriness. So my ex walks up to him and says "Hey, my ex girlfriend is a furry". The furry kid goes insane and starts ranting and raving about how rare furry girls are, asks if I'm hot, and follows my poor ex around for the whole party. When he got home, he called me to tell me that he felt my pain. To his credit, the ex didn't give out my screen name to that crazy furry dude. It's diffacult as Hell to leave the fandom cleanly when I'm constantly being bombarded by douchebags like the fox kid, and I'm VERY grateful that I didn't end up with a follower.

Barry Scott · Prattler Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 152

Maybe we aren't compering like for like here. Actually, I think on the annoyance scale I think console fanboys are far more irrataing then furries. Not as weird, but defiantly just as fanatically retarded and impervious to logic. In fact, remove the sexual deviance it's hard to tell the two apart.

LoKi · Venter Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 262

I've also never been invited to an "otaku" orgy, however, upon a couple of local furries discovering my liking of anthropomorphic animal drawings, well... :cry:

My ex went to a LAN party where there was some dude in fox ears and a tail making a big deal about his furriness. So my ex walks up to him and says "Hey, my ex girlfriend is a furry". The furry kid goes insane and starts ranting and raving about how rare furry girls are, asks if I'm hot, and follows my poor ex around for the whole party. When he got home, he called me to tell me that he felt my pain. To his credit, the ex didn't give out my screen name to that crazy furry dude. It's diffacult as Hell to leave the fandom cleanly when I'm constantly being bombarded by douchebags like the fox kid, and I'm VERY grateful that I didn't end up with a follower.

Haha, that's scary. To be honest, I really feel kind of bad for some furries who don't have any social skills. Then I tell myself only girls have feelings and I'm being a wuss.

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

I've never known a furry in real life, I'm happy to report, but I have known more than a few self-proclaimed Otaku. Now, assuming the two group's general geeked-out annoyance factor is equal, adding perverse sexual creeppiness means on a Yuck scale Furry > Anime

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

Now, assuming the two group's general geeked-out annoyance factor is equal, adding perverse sexual creeppiness means on a Yuck scale Furry > Anime

I dunno. Ever hear of "Yaoi"?

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I dunno. Ever hear of "Yaoi"?

I think scat, vore and othersuch are still freakier than just m/m art made by women for women...

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I dunno. Ever hear of "Yaoi"?

I think scat, vore and othersuch are still freakier than just m/m art made by women for women...

How about guro?

vanilla rin · Qualificator Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 31

How about guro?

I see this and I raise you a lolicon.

Kadius · Needs to get out more Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 911

Furry - Anime
Herms - Dickgirls
Cubart - Lolicon/Shotacon
Extreme(?) - Guro

But the biggest differance I've found is that when you compare postcounts of m/m and m/f image boards. Furry boards have 2 to 3 m/m posts for ever m/f post. Anime image boards are the exact opposite AND there's non sexual content. From this we can conclude that furries are sex crazed homosexuals. :P

wtf · Prattler Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 152

Guys, don't forget that:
1. Anime fandom is very large;

and
2. Japan is pretty populous country, and manga there is just everywhere.

Furry for the other hand is a pretty small clique, but with lots and lots of a crazy fetishes and outright deviations.

creature · Vociferator Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 520

My ex went to a LAN party where there was some dude in fox ears and a tail making a big deal about his furriness. So my ex walks up to him and says "Hey, my ex girlfriend is a furry". The furry kid goes insane and starts ranting and raving about how rare furry girls are, asks if I'm hot, and follows my poor ex around for the whole party. When he got home, he called me to tell me that he felt my pain. To his credit, the ex didn't give out my screen name to that crazy furry dude. It's diffacult as Hell to leave the fandom cleanly when I'm constantly being bombarded by douchebags like the fox kid, and I'm VERY grateful that I didn't end up with a follower.

And this, boys and girls, is why I've moved myself to the edges of the furry fandom. Well, one of the big reasons.

LoKi · Venter Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 262

I bet you that there are more ex-furry chicks than there are in furry now thanks to idiots like that guy. It sometimes seems the still straight furries are sometimes even more insane than the gay/bi ones. :O

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

It sometimes seems the still straight furries are sometimes even more insane than the gay/bi ones.

This quote should be pressed into steel for all the world to see. I've noticed this for so long, that straight furs enter a female devoid fandom and stalk the few girls in it to the point of driving them out. We queers need those girls to talk to and buy shoes with, you jerks!

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 659

We queers need those girls to talk to and buy shoes with, you jerks!

Well, I can't say I'm TOO surprized.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

We queers need those girls to talk to and buy shoes with, you jerks!

Well, I can't say I'm TOO surprized.

Yep, it should be painfully obvious I indeed am one of the minority of Americans who wear shoes.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Well, there's a non-trivial number of supposedly transgendered furries around. Do they count?

MonicaKitty · Vociferator Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 663

Well, there's a non-trivial number of supposedly transgendered furries around. Do they count?

Not the ones I've seen. They really need transgendered quality control.

Squizzle · Prattler Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 121

Well, there's a non-trivial number of supposedly transgendered furries around. Do they count?

I don't think there are more furry transsexuals/transgenders/pick-a-PC-terms than nonfurry ones. They just seem to be louder about it. And more sensitive, and more defensive, too. Much like furry pornsters, or furry gun nuts, or furry Christians, or, y'know, furries in general.

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 679

Guys, don't forget that:
1. Anime fandom is very large;

and
2. Japan is pretty populous country, and manga there is just everywhere.

Furry for the other hand is a pretty small clique, but with lots and lots of a crazy fetishes and outright deviations.

So this means that furry's raw population versus brain killing power quotient is way higher than anime. Furry is more dangerous than anime.

Though allowing your kids to be involved with either should be grounds for retroactive sterilization when they invent time travel.