Are there any psions around? :)

Are there any psions around? :)

DatdudeGil, I dont think Randi would agree :P
Mitch, I dont have a good definition for it, try reading at www.psipog.net if you are interested.
I want to hear peoples (preferably psions :P) opinions on telekinese. Ive found an explanation for it I can belieave in.

That's just as bad as the "I am a magic wolf" brigade.

That's just as bad as the "I am a magic wolf" brigade.

BUT I AM A MAGIC WOLF!

http://www.psipog.net/

HONK BONK YIFF YIFF MEEP

Uggghhhhhhh! PLEASE don't mention that word. I still get the heebie-jeebies every time I hear about Mark Merlino ranting about how omnipotent and psionic his race of "Skiltaires" are, and how the whole universe revolves around those fucking space weasels of his.

David, if you dont belieave in it thats ok. But do understand that some people, (actually quite a lot) experiences stuff they cannot find explanations for. Often they wont even tell about them to their closest friends because they might get labeled as crazy and imagining stuff.
I do belieave you cannot understand it if you have not experienced it.
I am such a person, I have experienced stuff I hesitate to tell about even to my closest friend.
I know there are stuff happening around science has no answer for, like, precognition and gravity :)

I think that is wrong, anyone can get good a drawing if they have motivation, and I think motivation is the only thing required to learn telekinese.

All I have to say on the subject is that I've experienced some pretty strange shit that I can't fully explain

SLaitila, Everyone is born with 'psychic' skills. Few people try do develop them, but many experience weird stuff like telepathy or empathy occasionally.

All I have to say on the subject is that I've experienced some pretty strange shit that I can't fully explain

I knew, (And saw) a man who managed, under the influence of alcohol, to get vomit on the CEILING!!!!!!!

Now that's mysterious.

I know precognition is possible as I have experienced it, this is the foundation wich I build some of my belieafs on.
I jugde people by why they belieave in things, not what they belieave in.
SLaitila, Everyone is born with 'psychic' skills. Few people try do develop them, but many experience weird stuff like telepathy or empathy occasionally.

HOWEVER, the human brain is an EXTREMELY COMPLICATED piece of organic hardware and reacts to almost everything that it encounters and senses.

I knew, (And saw) a man who managed, under the influence of alcohol, to get vomit on the CEILING!!!!!!!

Let's just say that the same race that can create these:

Is the same race capable of creating these:

...against a good ol' boy, a child's entertainer, and our beloved leader?

Everyone is born with 'psychic' skills. Few people try do develop them, but many experience weird stuff like telepathy or empathy occasionally.

DA, Im not doing this for attention, Im doing it by interest. Noone likes to be made fun of, and if you want to me made fun of or labeled crazy I cant see a better thing to do then get interested in supernatural stuff.
This whole things is like 'taboo', there are much more stereotypes about people belieaving in the 'supernatural' then there are about furries.
I dont like that, I think its stupid, so I am trying to be as open as I can about it. Im not hiding my beliefs. Roughly 90% of forum people laugh at the very idea of telekinese, some others get interested, while some people msg me and tell me about their supernatural experiences. Im not in any way brainwashed, I am trying to find truth.
I know precognition is possible as I have experienced it, this is the foundation wich I build some of my belieafs on.

I know precognition is possible as I have experienced it, this is the foundation wich I build some of my belieafs on.
I jugde people by why they belieave in things, not what they belieave in.
SLaitila, Everyone is born with 'psychic' skills. Few people try do develop them, but many experience weird stuff like telepathy or empathy occasionally.

People can laugh all they want and people who make wild claims to have controllable "powers" who then can't reproduce it and haughtily refuse to try and get all self-righteous make it easier to laugh.

HOWEVER, the human brain is an EXTREMELY COMPLICATED piece of organic hardware and reacts to almost everything that it encounters and senses. We evolved on a planet with a reasonably strong magnetic field and we KNOW that certain animals respond to it. We have no reason to believe that we are any different than other life on Earth and would for any reason not be attuned to ALL the energies around us we may not consciously perceive or understand.

We DO NOT KNOW how gravity, inertia, light, and so forth work. For instance, one quantum mechanical interpretation results in one transverse and two longitudinal modes of electromagnetic waves. The transverse waves are easily seen as the known spectrum, i.e. light, x-rays, ultraviolet, etc. We DON'T have a full idea of what a longitudinal electromagnetic wave would look like to us so we might be surrounded by them and not even know it. The math says they are there, but we don't know what we're looking for. BTW, a longitudinal wave is what sound waves are, i.e. compression waves. What is the medium for an electromagnetic compression wave? The quantum vacuum? We know that that's there but we aren't good at detecting it easily. See Aharanov-Bohm, and Casimir Effect for more on this subject.

To complicate matters, we know that rigorously, electromagnetic fields descend from more basic fields called scalar and vector potential fields, and again, see Aharanov-Bohm for more on those. We're not sure if those would support waves of their own, if so how, and how to interact with them easily and efficiently.

We could very well be immersed in a sea of energies we barely interact with, and in fact know we are, but do to some statistical amount and have evolved some subconscious sense of we don't understand because we don't understand the media by which things are transmitted in the first place or how the brain interacts and on what levels.

Don't discount psionics right off the bat. You can chuckle at unfounded claims that can't be backed up, but consider this. If such things as telekinesis are real, and we figure a way to replicate them electronically/mechanically, how much more power can we throw at them that way than the measly brain? Not too hard to see where you could move planets with a thought and some mechnism with the energy of a power plant behind it.

Who's to say we didn't already achieve this technology and the seeming world where we haven't is just cover to keep us from knowing what really happened? You know, like The Matrix.

If you're given to paranoia, you might just end up in a padded room obsessing over it.

Better to not worry too much, and keep with more everyday things.

Like planting a suggestion in that hot redhead at the bar to come back to your place.

I dont have any psychic 'powers', I think of them Someone in my family died 6 years ago, and I still feel guilty for it.

I experienced a precognition.

I was not counting getting a stiff one from the idea of being yiffed by a fox hermtaur, thats definately much worse then belieaving in supernatural stuff. :)

About attention, maybe you are right and most 'psychic' people are just lying to get it. If that is the case I think its sad.

I am sad for all the children dieing of starvation in afghanistan.

In the manner of all good socialists, such as yourself, I propose we give them the shirt off of someone else's back, namely yours, and send your food allotment for the next year to them.

Pycnopodia, one non-proven suspected precognition does not equal having abilities. I suggest you take a good hard long think about this whole thing.