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Rusty

Just an opinion question here.

When would you say Sabrina Online starting getting 'bizzare'?

In my opinion, it was the hotel scene where ZigZag practically tries to rape Sabrina.

In my opinion, that was probably where the ZigZag 'arc' should have ended and Sabrina should have quit and ZigZag should have left SoL.

Now ZigZag's apperance seem more 'just because', to me.

How does everyone else feel about it?

Anonymous · Posted: 8/1/2003 6:17:31 PM Post subject:

zig zag seems to be popular, or else as i have seen eric's valentine art, zig zag is eric's sexual stimulation, though that's my oppinion... :/

Mitch · Posted: 8/1/2003 7:52:49 PM Post subject:

When did it go weird? Why, RIGHT HERE (March '99):

Sabrina going to work in a porn studio was the moment when the strip ran off dribbling and barking into the woods of weirdness. Before then it was a lovable little soap opera, and after that it was just plain odd. The amazing "hotel room" sequence was indeed disturbing. But so were the strips where Zig and Sab babble about the porn business and stuff (Strips 213 onwards) which someone described as "like a Chick tract for the porn industry".

And people wonder why I made "NOT Sabrina Online". Bah.

Rusty · Posted: 8/1/2003 8:23:55 PM Post subject:

touché

I stand corrected.

David

Just an opinion question here.

When would you say Sabrina Online starting getting 'bizzare'?

In my opinion, it was the hotel scene where ZigZag practically tries to rape Sabrina.

In my opinion, that was probably where the ZigZag 'arc' should have ended and Sabrina should have quit and ZigZag should have left SoL.

Now ZigZag's apperance seem more 'just because', to me.

How does everyone else feel about it?

On the front page no less, there is this political diatribe, which attempts to be nothing more than, passive jumping on the bandwagon and political correctness.

The thought of have having this unwashed lothario insert his greasy dripping ideologies into my tower of true consciousness is awful, and I feel violated now :o(

I agree that the rape bit was were It got worse though, I mean, If I wanted to see into the twisted word of someone else, I'd make a suit from their skin or something.

The Zig Zag PArt though, is probably what keeps the new fans comeing or keeps the new audience or plays on the Ego of the cartoonist like a Musician on a flute.

I never even really liked the strip in the first place.
But everyone kept saying how good it was, till I thought it might be.

The only comic strips I’ve ever really liked were those Gilbert Sheldon ones, the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers & Fat Freddie’s Cat.

Anonymous · Posted: 8/2/2003 1:12:00 PM Post subject:

I think we've got bees in our bonnets about this one

Zigzag's a comedic device. She works for all the polarized jokes Schwartz's comedy style seems to be centered around. In reality the character Sabrina probably would've walked out of the door at the interview.

But in reality, to use Sluggy freelance as an example, Bunbun wouldn't talk, he wouldn't beat up bears/aliens/Santa clause. He'd be a normal bunny!

Comics have comedic devices, Garfield has Odie, Sluggy has Bunbun, Bruno has Fiona. These devices make us laugh. It makes writing comics easire having these devices because there are so many jokes to be had with them.

Computolio · Posted: 8/3/2003 9:15:00 AM Post subject:

I think we've got bees in our bonnets about this one

Zigzag's a comedic device. She works for all the polarized jokes Schwartz's comedy style seems to be centered around. In reality the character Sabrina probably would've walked out of the door at the interview.

But in reality, to use Sluggy freelance as an example, Bunbun wouldn't talk, he wouldn't beat up bears/aliens/Santa clause. He'd be a normal bunny!

Comics have comedic devices, Garfield has Odie, Sluggy has Bunbun, Bruno has Fiona. These devices make us laugh. It makes writing comics easire having these devices because there are so many jokes to be had with them.

Yes, except the "comedic device" you're referring to in Sabrina Online is at once transparent, unfunny, tacky and above all, shitty.

I take the Blame Anime™ approach to explaining Zig-Zag's sudden appearance/behavior. Schwartz is basically trying to imitate one of those Tenchi/Urusei Yatsura/Love Hina/I Could Go On Forfuckingever type "Love Love Comedy" animes where the two too-retarded-for-each-other protagonists NEVER FUCKING GET TOGETHER.

In this case, those protagonists happen to be Zig Zag and Sabrina. SO WACKY, SO ORIGINAL, SO NOT FANSERVICE, SO UNCONTRIVED.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - whoever introduced Eric to the wonderful world of Japanese animation should be fucking shot. Western cartoonists attempting to emulate the Japanese style (or even bits and pieces of it) without so much as a clue as to what makes the Japanese stuff so great are tremendously annoying, and Schwartz is no fucking exception.

DA · Posted: 8/3/2003 6:32:01 PM Post subject: you know what the biggest laugh is?

That Manga was born when some japanese guy whose name escapes me saw Disney cartoons and tried to bring what he saw on the screen to paper with japanese elements, then anime came from that.

Funniest thing about this is, even suggest to any furry who does anime style the real history of anime and they'll have a blue faced fit about how anime is Original and not Disney drivel, I could watch it for hours :P