Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 6:48:14 AM Post subject: Lets dish some dirt, shall we?

Hirtes lived for decades under SSI, claiming to be disabled (when anyone with an ounce of common sense knows otherwise).

Collins is a no talent hack who can't go more than 8 hours without getting stoned on pot, and has routinely deprived his kids of food and his household of rent to maintain his supply. His roommate Donner (who shares his wife) wrecked O'connell's car, nobody ever tried to replace it, and after Brian sold the wrecked car and camper he had to cover their rent, they got all pissy when the he refused to loan them the car he had temporarily. Not only did he contribute the money as a deposit on their house's rent, but he also paid their rent in full when Jerry's SSI check didn't come in on time.

AND if that wasn't enough, he also paid for Becky, the oh so sweet and innocent one who said "nothing personal" when they kicked Brian out, to clean up a little "accident" they had when either Jerry or Donner (who the hell knows) failed to pull out in time.

You know, Brian may have a glass house, but the ones accusing him live in a house made of soap bubbles.

Computolio · Posted: 8/3/2003 8:30:56 AM Post subject:

DRAMA.GIF

Also: Proof plz.

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 8:44:43 AM Post subject:

Gee, considering that everything happened over 10 years ago, and part of SELLING the wreck of his car for salvage (including title) means he doesn't actually HAVE the proof does it?

Collins knows, however. Remember Jerry? Donner borrowed the car to pick up a trailer full of band equipment for One Drop Plus, he was going just a few MPH over the speed limit as it was starting to rain, and the victim of a previous hit and run driver decided to leave his car in the middle of the street. Donner, not knowing the car wasn't in motion (since there were no hazard lights or torches around it) failed to slow or stop Brian's car until it was too late. He then admitted that he was going a little over the speed limit, which resulted in Brian's losing any chance of possibly getting an insurance settlement.

Brian also had a Carver C-1 sonic holography pre-amp, a classic piece of hardware from the early 70s, made before Carver left their garage and became a major hi-fi corporation, serial number 0000009.

As for other little details about Collins' habits: Who do you think he and Donner went to when they couldn't hook up doobage from their regular source (Ras Zimbabwe for further proof, the former lead of One Drop Plus). They went to Brian, or specifically "Bones", Brian's regular dealer (who later turned out to be the guy who burglarized Brian's apartment when he was away at a furry con).

By now it should be apparent to Collins who's typing this. You know, when you shoot your mouth off, someone will inevitably shoot back.

The New Meat · Posted: 8/3/2003 8:49:36 AM Post subject: Re: Lets dish some dirt, shall we?

AND if that wasn't enough, he also paid for Becky, the oh so sweet and innocent one who said "nothing personal" when they kicked Brian out, to clean up a little "accident" they had when either Jerry or Donner (who the hell knows) failed to pull out in time.

You know, Brian may have a glass house, but the ones accusing him live in a house made of soap bubbles.

Oh! Oh! What's this? I appear to be playing THE WORLD'S TINIEST VIOLIN.

Also, why is it that everyone who wants to make personal attacks on thois board has to be so damn cryptic? "Accident?" What the hell? That makes it soun like Donner crapped all over the floor because he resisted being anal raped by Jerry or something. And Brian paid for Becky? What does that mean? Paid for her upkeep? Paid for nookie? And why the hell would Brian want to be in the room to watch her clean up floor shit? SO MAN YQUESTIONS

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 9:02:23 AM Post subject: Re: Lets dish some dirt, shall we?

AND if that wasn't enough, he also paid for Becky, the oh so sweet and innocent one who said "nothing personal" when they kicked Brian out, to clean up a little "accident" they had when either Jerry or Donner (who the hell knows) failed to pull out in time.

You know, Brian may have a glass house, but the ones accusing him live in a house made of soap bubbles.

Oh! Oh! What's this? I appear to be playing THE WORLD'S TINIEST VIOLIN.

Also, why is it that everyone who wants to make personal attacks on thois board has to be so damn cryptic? "Accident?" What the hell? That makes it soun like Donner crapped all over the floor because he resisted being anal raped by Jerry or something. And Brian paid for Becky? What does that mean? Paid for her upkeep? Paid for nookie? And why the hell would Brian want to be in the room to watch her clean up floor shit? SO MAN YQUESTIONS

If you must know (one would think "not pulling out in time" would be enough of a hint), Brian paid for Becky to have an abortion since Collins and crew were broke at the time. Didn't do much good though, Vaughn was conceieved a month or so later. Ahwell, $400 down the drain, literally.

Brian put his neck on the line more times than Collins could count without pulling down his pants and counting his pubes, and Collins in turn betrayed him. Brian's done stupid shit in the past and does his best to make up for it, but Collins just keeps going and going and going. He even got Collins back into the furry art scene, making money on his art and making some semblance of a name for himself again. And got a knife in the back for it.

mouse · Posted: 8/3/2003 9:13:23 AM Post subject:

You know, Brian may have a glass house, but the ones accusing him live in a house made of soap bubbles.

brian made a post one time on a.f.f. that was a chat log of his (he does all the time too ??? like anyone gives a fuck) where he is telling someone that was being an asshole that "now he wasnt gonna do thier commision, nor was he going to give them thier money back" (or words to this effect)...uh if someones being an asshole then you can refuse to do business and you give their money back...you definatly dont post a conversation with yourself sayign shit like this.
i dont know what the fuck the other guy's deal was, but it really doesnt matter

if this was me: o'connel would get 1 warning to rectify the situation, otherwise - get out the yellow tape

when i read this post from him it revealed, in a glorious epiphany, what a fucking worthless sack of shit he is
the fact that furries put up with this garbage, is just unreal to me.

early 70's? carver? dont you mean phase linear?
i didnt think bob carver moved to making "carver" until mid to late 70s

and i dont see how a pre amp could be that serverly damaged in front end collision that it could not be repaired, especially if it was that low of a serial # why wouldnt you

besides its brians fault for not taking people to court for this shit when it happened - if it happened exactly the way you say it did cuz i fukin doubt it

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 9:20:09 AM Post subject:

You know, Brian may have a glass house, but the ones accusing him live in a house made of soap bubbles.

brian made a post one time on a.f.f. that was a chat log of his (he does all the time too ??? like anyone gives a fuck) where he is telling someone that was being an asshole that "now he wasnt gonna do thier commision, nor was he going to give them thier money back" (or words to this effect)...uh if someones being an asshole then you can refuse to do business and you give their money back...you definatly dont post a conversation with yourself sayign shit like this.
i dont know what the fuck the other guy's deal was, but it really doesnt matter

if this was me: o'connel would get 1 warning to rectify the situation, otherwise - get out the yellow tape

when i read this post from him it revealed, in a glorious epiphany, what a fucking worthless sack of shit he is
the fact that furries put up with this garbage, is just unreal to me.

early 70's? carver? dont you mean phase linear?
i didnt think bob carver moved to making "carver" until mid to late 70s

and i dont see how a pre amp could be that serverly damaged in front end collision that it could not be repaired, especially if it was that low of a serial # why wouldnt you

besides its brians fault for not taking people to court for this shit when it happened - if it happened exactly the way you say it did cuz i fukin doubt it

Do you know what you get when you sue someone with no money? You get no money. You also get a big lawyers bill to pay off out of pocket since you couldn't get anything in court.

The pre amp was left at Collins' house when Brian moved out, I neglected to note that. When he returned to pick that, and his microwave oven, he couldn't get them back, Collins claimed to have sold them.

As it goes, the C1 was the first Carver product to hit the market, even the manual was printed on a stapled stack of xeroxes. More info as follows:
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/07FD1EB15634D5C2862567E900774A62

mouse · Posted: 8/3/2003 9:37:36 AM Post subject:

in small claims court you dont need a lawyer and most people dont get one ....because its small claims court

and secondly, once you have a judgement against someone you can do all kinds of nasty shit

wait a while, you go down to thier bank with thier acct # and the judgement and you can withdraw $

you can repossess any car they own

im pretty sure you sit on em too, in other words, a year later they still have the judgement against them, and by then they have a car, demand they pay it, if they dont , get the cops and take the car

not that id wish any of that on jerry, im just saying o'connels misfortune is his own fucking fault and its painfully obvious

and judging by how he does "business" im surprised he still does any
i wouldnt give the motherfucker a dime

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 9:52:13 AM Post subject:

in small claims court you dont need a lawyer and most people dont get one ....because its small claims court

and secondly, once you have a judgement against someone you can do all kinds of nasty shit

wait a while, you go down to thier bank with thier acct # and the judgement and you can withdraw $

you can repossess any car they own

im pretty sure you sit on em too, in other words, a year later they still have the judgement against them, and by then they have a car, demand they pay it, if they dont , get the cops and take the car

not that id wish any of that on jerry, im just saying o'connels misfortune is his own fucking fault and its painfully obvious

and judging by how he does "business" im surprised he still does any
i wouldnt give the motherfucker a dime

Who do you think influenced Brian's business ethics? None other than "I can't do anything to send them their orders, I already spent all the money" Collins himself.

For the record, up until he was majorly burned in 1997, Brian was one of the most prolific furry artists out there. One of the things Collins complained about was how Brian would come upstairs and show him the latest pictures he had completed, while Jerry was struggling to make a solitary ink line despite the withdrawel tremors.

But hey, don't worry about persecuting Brian, he's like a cornered rat and you don't want to see what he's capable of when he has nothing else to lose.

mouse · Posted: 8/3/2003 10:22:43 AM Post subject:

give me a fucking break dude!!! marijuana withdrawl???!?

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 10:29:28 AM Post subject:

give me a fucking break dude!!! marijuana withdrawl???!?

Yep. Jerry tends to mix tobacco with marijuana in what is known as a "spliff". Since his mind and/or body confuses the addictive properties of nicotine for the buzz of the THC, going without spliffs turns him into a poster child for pot prohibition.

mouse · Posted: 8/3/2003 10:31:53 AM Post subject: ReeFeR MaDNeSS!!!!!!!

oh yeah? a spliff huh? did he freak out afterward and jump out the fucking window

mouse · Posted: 8/3/2003 10:34:17 AM Post subject:

well nightmare i really hope your joking around,
cuz thats fucking pathetic i dunno what else to say

your a moron

Anonymous · Posted: 8/3/2003 10:49:09 AM Post subject:

well nightmare i really hope your joking around,
cuz thats fucking pathetic i dunno what else to say

your a moron

And what a witty retort!

I'm not joking about Collins' doobage habit, he really does that. Pretty much everyone who's had the poor fortune to deal with him in real life has observed the same. His tendacy to freak out at furry cons is just another example of it.

If you guys can't handle the truth, then I suggest you stop telling lies.

David · Posted: 8/3/2003 12:08:30 PM Post subject: Re: Lets dish some dirt, shall we?

You know, Brian may have a glass house, but the ones accusing him live in a house made of soap bubbles.

Are you Brian O'connel? Or someone pretending to be him?

Since Brian O' connel made this post on A.F.F:

Message-ID: <bghsb0$1e5l$1@velox.critter.net>

"people who live in glass houses, let alone houses that are composed of soap bubbles, shouldn't try throwing stones."

Now, If we compare the orthograhics and phraseing style...
they are quite similar.

Please could you name yourself?

Belive me, I Know none of the people involved in this arguement, however, I can say that posting under a false false FALSE nym, is bad and makes jesus cry :o(

David · Posted: 8/3/2003 12:11:02 PM Post subject:

If you guys can't handle the truth, then I suggest you stop telling lies.

UNLEASH THE LAWSUITE!!!!

In fact this whole thing looks rather sordid and degradeing to me with alleged wrongdoing, misunderstanding and unhappiness on all sides.

As much as it amuses me to see FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Over such trivialities, please remember that people might get upset,

Jesus will cry :o(

It's counter productive I'm sure to air dirty laundry like this.

mouse · Posted: 8/4/2003 1:57:38 AM Post subject:

well nightmare i really hope your joking around,
cuz thats fucking pathetic i dunno what else to say

your a moron

And what a witty retort!

I'm not joking about Collins' doobage habit, he really does that. Pretty much everyone who's had the poor fortune to deal with him in real life has observed the same. His tendacy to freak out at furry cons is just another example of it.

If you guys can't handle the truth, then I suggest you stop telling lies.

well jesus , mixing tobacco with weed?!?! is he nutz?!?!? thats the fucking craziest thing ive ever heard of !

forget about "chronic"!! i cant believe someone would actually do this shit

get a fucking grip nightmare

ive never heard anyone refer to a weed and tobacco mixed joint as a "spliff" yet you so -matter-of-factly- defined it as such

in fact my main concern in this area would be "hey jerry, just buy a pack of cigarettes and the bag, and smoke them seperatly like i used to"

plus your little thing about the nicotine addiction THC "buzz" being confused, is singualrly THE dumbest explaination ive ever heard

sorry it doesnt work like that in the real world

...not that anything youve posted has made much sense

Computolio · Posted: 8/4/2003 5:05:24 AM Post subject:

Before I close this thread, I would like to point out two things:

1. Marajuana addiction is EXCEDDINGLY RARE. If Collins is indeed HOOKED ON DRUGS, then, well, he has the best excuse in the universe for drawing odd stuff, an excuse not many people on this interweb seem to have. Suprisingly.

2. I could care less about his personal life; nothing seems excessively (and definitely not entertainingly) pathetic in Mr. Nightmare's accounts so far. Just... troubled.

We let Hirtes and Collins in here with some knowledge of their complex, odd histories, and unless they explode in a flurry of PATHETIC ala The Tyrant or Newt, there's not much I'm willing to do.

Anonymous · Posted: 8/4/2003 5:05:35 AM Post subject:

well nightmare i really hope your joking around,
cuz thats fucking pathetic i dunno what else to say

your a moron

And what a witty retort!

I'm not joking about Collins' doobage habit, he really does that. Pretty much everyone who's had the poor fortune to deal with him in real life has observed the same. His tendacy to freak out at furry cons is just another example of it.

If you guys can't handle the truth, then I suggest you stop telling lies.

well jesus , mixing tobacco with weed?!?! is he nutz?!?!? thats the fucking craziest thing ive ever heard of !

forget about "chronic"!! i cant believe someone would actually do this shit

get a fucking grip nightmare

ive never heard anyone refer to a weed and tobacco mixed joint as a "spliff" yet you so -matter-of-factly- defined it as such

in fact my main concern in this area would be "hey jerry, just buy a pack of cigarettes and the bag, and smoke them seperatly like i used to"

plus your little thing about the nicotine addiction THC "buzz" being confused, is singualrly THE dumbest explaination ive ever heard

sorry it doesnt work like that in the real world

...not that anything youve posted has made much sense

You're a moron. Have you ever heard, then, of blunts? What do you think blunt wrappers are made from? Duuuuuhhhh, it's TOBACCO!!!

If you still are so goddamnned stupid that you can't tell your ass from a com port, then look up the following:

http://www.spliffguide.com/content/skinup.asp

Who's the dumbass now, eh?