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Rusty
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Posted: 4/28/2004 1:34:43 AM     Post subject: Transformation story writing in need of advice  

I was wondering if anyone here likes transformation type stories? I've pretty much always enjoyed and started writing ones of my own a little over two years ago.

Reading ZenZhu's post in another thread got me thinking about a problem I have had in my stories.

(I have most of my stories at http://coontf.xepher.net if anyone wants to check em out)

The problem I've been having in my works is transformation is often just for the sake of a transformation. While people have said they enjoy my stories, one thing I'm interested in is having stories where instead of the transformation being basically the entire story, the transformation is used to tell the story. I was wonder if anyone here knows of ways to do this?

(if anyone wants to know, I didn't see the movie Brother Bear, after reading the review of it here, let's just say I ended up with no real desire to watch it)
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Posted: 4/28/2004 3:34:27 AM     Post subject:  

Get on google and look up "The Blind Pig". It is a collection of stories revolving around transformation.

In quite a few cases, these people fall into the trap of centering their stories around transformation itself. However, there are a few good stories that actually tell a story, regardless of the types of characters.

SR Foxley's "Gnade Street" comes to mind, however angesty it can get at times. Unfortunately, I believe that his site has been down for a while.

There is a site called "Transformation Story Archive", but again, I believe it is down. But look it up anyway.

Hope this helps.
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Posted: 4/28/2004 5:23:20 AM     Post subject:  

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Rusty
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Posted: 4/28/2004 5:24:47 AM     Post subject:  

I've read a few stories set in 'The Blind Pig' story universe; I've honestly found most to be very depressing, mostly because the people that end up transformed are often subject to terrible treatment and such.

The TSA is up as of the last time I checked, I read quite a few of the stories there,although it has been quite some time since I've read some of them.

I've tried to think of ideas where the transformation is used as a means to tell the story rather then being the story, but I can't seem to come up with any ideas. Perhaps I should also look into ideas where the transformations isn't the whole story but it can be a decent part of it, as long as there's plot beyond it.
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Posted: 4/28/2004 3:18:30 PM     Post subject:  

Wait.. what... mistreated? You mean a human turned into an animal doesn't become innately more noble and better off in their fuzzy utopia than they ever were with modern medicine, opposeable thumbs, Hooters restaurants, and video games?

Heh... sorry, couldn't resist.

Seriously, I'm not sure how you could overcome that obstacle, as even if you're trying to make the transformation merely a decent chunk of the story, you're still dealing with the problem of basically creating the story with the intent of supporting this storytelling tool, rather than the other way around. Transformation is the tool... like a hammer. If you don't have something specific you want to build, the hammer, no matter how shiny and pretty, is still a useless lump of metal and wood without a solid direction in which to use it.

Hmm... about the only thing I could think of is to say forget transformation. Forget it entirely and devise a story that you've always wanted to tell that doesn't focus on transformation as a theme. Then, go back and see where you can work your tool in.

For example, a while back I devised a story that was supposed to be kind a children's book kind of thing. It centered around two characters running a cross-country style race. One character thought highly of his skills and knew he was a better runner than the other. He also very much wanted the medal that was to be awarded. But, during the race, he gets tripped up on roots, mud, something just barely before the finish, and the other character wins. So, he's all pissed because he didn't win.. should have won.. wasn't his fault.... blah blah blah blah. The lesson being that he should have been happy for his friend's success, rather than feeling cheated because he wasn't looking where he was going or something. Yadda yadda.. lovey dovey.. why can't we all just get along.. Goofus and Gallant.. BFD. Pttthhhttt.

Anyway, really, the story's characters were two young wolves... BUT... it could have just as easily been two kids.. two aliens... two fish... whatever. The tool I used to tell the story could have been changed without severely altering the heart of the story. So, that's about the only thing I can maybe suggest... forget about the transformation theme entirely and come up with a really solid story.... then see where you can use the tool to push the story along.
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Posted: 4/29/2004 4:36:34 AM     Post subject:  

Wait.. what... mistreated? You mean a human turned into an animal doesn't become innately more noble and better off in their fuzzy utopia than they ever were with modern medicine, opposeable thumbs, Hooters restaurants, and video games?


By mistreated, I mean like some become anthromorphic and are treated like monsters by their own families and such when they're the victim of an illness. Rather then giving them compassion and such in helping them to deal with being animals or animal people, they become outcasts. Although, I do have to say, it is probably a lot more realistic that way (hard to say though).

Hmm... about the only thing I could think of is to say forget transformation. Forget it entirely and devise a story that you've always wanted to tell that doesn't focus on transformation as a theme. Then, go back and see where you can work your tool in.


Yeah, you're probably right. I need to think of a story that doesen't use transformation and see where I can go with it.

Thanks for responding.
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Posted: 4/29/2004 6:39:26 AM     Post subject:  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Posted: 4/29/2004 7:17:47 AM     Post subject:  

While we're at it, could anyone here give me some advice on how to liven up my hermaphrodite taur orgy stories? I feel like my description of dog cock is somewhat lacking.

Also, would you say "creamy torrents of man fox seed" or "pearly torrents of man fox seed?" Please advise.
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Posted: 4/29/2004 7:53:39 AM     Post subject:  

While we're at it, could anyone here give me some advice on how to liven up by hermaphrodite taur orgy stories? I feel like my description of dog cock is somewhat lacking.

Also, would you say "creamy torrents of man fox seed" or "pearly torrents of man fox seed?" Please advise.


Hey, if it's about hermtaurs, the proof is always in the pudding, my friend!

Try using alliteration to aid in your storytelling, such as: "In the summer season, soft was the shorn seeds, shrouded by the shore, a shauled shorty slept."

Go for the gusto! Don't bother with the 'creamy torrents', make it epic! You want to reach out and grab that cock! Your readers want the same. Lose any hope of proper proportions - you might even get the Macro/Micros reading your story!

Something along the lines of, "Ben, the rather disheveled looking ferret was comprised of more than just thick skin, and a huge cock. His large mask helped to cover the deviousness that lie within his tiny mind. Never a moment went by tha there wasn't a sneer, or flash of fangs in the direction of any creature that sauntered past. Now, he wasn't exactly evil, but he was driven. Driven by the insatiable need for cock. Big ones. Small ones. Pink ones. Purple ones. Dark, and light - so long as they were bruising his face, or his anus, it was all good."

Make sure to reference the base of the story: THE NEED FOR DICK. The characters are rather unimportant, and some choose to leave them out entirely. An anamorphic penis, however, is an entirely different plot.
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Posted: 4/29/2004 3:16:32 PM     Post subject:  

Hey, if it's about hermtaurs, the proof is always in the pudding, my friend!


Herm.. pudding... spooge... I get it... heh.. heheh.. hehehehh..... hehehehehehehehehhehe.. YOU SUCK!

Try using alliteration to aid in your storytelling, such as: "In the summer season, soft was the shorn seeds, shrouded by the shore, a shauled shorty slept."


Pearly papules of precious pre pulsed pensively from his pounding pecker. Her silky sex seemed to slide sinuously along his slick schlong as he slipped into her snug, steamy slickness.

Heh... heheh.... hehehehehe... hehehehehehehhehehehe... I SUCK!

Go for the gusto! Don't bother with the 'creamy torrents', make it epic! You want to reach out and grab that cock! Your readers want the same. Lose any hope of proper proportions - you might even get the Macro/Micros reading your story!


The phrase that pays... "sea of semen" or "ocean of cum."

And don't forget, you must use the word GLISTENING at least 50 times within the span of a page.
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Posted: 4/30/2004 2:05:50 AM     Post subject:  

You guys know you're all going to hell right? Rofl!

Anyway, that guy is right when he said make a story first, THEN add the characters.

For example, look up a bunch of old Starfox fanfics. Especially an author by the surname "Jason Wolfman". Holy crap that guy can write a war novel! Basically, he made a space war story, THEN added a "Starfox universe" as a background. Don't bother with the dinosaur planet garbage. I'm talking the original SF.

He would only rarely use the SF characters, perferring to use made up characters of his own. And believe me, what made many of his stories good was the fact that he can make a "good" bad guy. I'm talking real sickos.
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Posted: 4/30/2004 6:41:33 AM     Post subject:  

How about a story about a woman who becomes a werewolf and fucks a fatass geek because he has a "wolf spirit" or shit like that?
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Posted: 4/30/2004 1:54:47 PM     Post subject:  

And then the fatass geek gets to realize his wolf nature by being transformed during TEH MAGIKUL SECKHS AKT!!!! But, alas, it turns out that you don't get transformed into something just because you want it... your true nature is revealed.. and he becomes a honeydew melon...... AND DEN DA CHAKATS SHOVES TEH MELON UPS THEY'S HOLE AND DEN B1RTHZ IT OWT AGAIN!
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