Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

ZenZhu · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 475

Though this may not seem to merit its own thread, I couldn't think of an existing conversation to interject this into. If someone wants to move it into an existing thread, that's fine.

I was over at Eat All Furries where there was a conversation about someone's LiveJournal or something dedicated to yiffy art. The topic got onto how criticism, even constructive criticism, is shot down... but, how much of the criticism from furries themselves consists of little more than "Take an anatomy lesson, you hack." or "Your colors suck."

On the flip side, however, furry praise is equally inane. You rarely see someone complimenting the use of varying line quality, or the well-moderated use of hatching (something furries easily go overboard on), or the skillful use of colors that compliment each other well. It's always:

"Awww, they're so ky00te!" (translation - kiddie spooge, yay!)

"Your art RAWKS!" (translation - I can't get enough Gadget Hackwrench porn, no matter how crappy.)

"Your coloring ruleZ!" (translation - you bothered to color it.)

"I wish I could draw like you!" (translation - It's hard to draw and wank at the same time, so I just surf around hoping someone drew Minerva Mink with a dick.)

So, furries get a lot of praise, and little criticism, since it's shot down. The overwhelming mass of praise outweighs the criticism so much that the artist in question thinks there's something to those numbers. But, the praise is just as vapid and meaningless as much of the criticism, and truly bears no reflection on the artist's skills.

So.. we come to my moment of satori regarding the attraction of furrydom to some. Many of the furry "artiste" wanna-bes are the kinds of people that take up a hobby.. painting, playing guitar, martial arts.. whatever.. and then give it up in a couple of weeks because they're not immediatly good at it. Furrydom stokes the egos of these people, so the first time they pick up a pencil and paper and draw a multi-phallused wolf raping a dead baby seal... they're told they're good.

To use a martial arts analogy, furry praise is like giving someone a black belt for snapping a packet of uncooked spagetti with a karate chop.

m_estrugo · Coadjutor Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 160

Oh, I replioed to a LJ entry a couple of days ago, regarding a picture by Juan Crespo. My entry isn't hard to find: http://www.livejournal.com/users/rainbow_roo/327568.html.

On an unrelated sidenote, I'm still wondering why weird-looking halfbreeds are so attractive to furries.

ZenZhu · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 475

The real mind-boggling comment is this:

That's sooo cute... wow... makes me want to hold the kitten, and protect it from the world. I know I can't, and that it's merely a cartoon, but the emotional response is there.

Emotional response........... to what looks like a frog in fuzzy winter camoflage? Is this what furries mean when they invoke the "art is meant to express an emotion" defense? So.... Precious Moments pictures should be in the Louvre, because it evokes an emotional response from blue-haired old biddies and soccer moms?

Boy, the furries sure have critiques down to a science. Why should art critics waste their time writing articles when the highest praise for a work is obviously, "Awwwwwww."

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

Furries have very low standards which is all too immediately obvious by the state of the fandom yet... their standards are insanely high in the wrong places. They fault people for looks less than that of supermodel grade yet none are themselves supermodel caliber. But art? They could damn near orgasm spontaneously over a badly sketched pic of a rabbit getting boinked by a taur creature.

If your standards are high enough, that only happens when you're looking at Kira Kener doing a DP and munching rug at the same time on the hood of the car you've always wanted. And you don't fault real people for their looks, you boink them instead of merely dreaming about boinking someone more beautiful.

i.e., masturbatory fantasies should be of things out of your reach, and actual sex with people more like you. Not masturbatory fantasies of weird ass shit Michael Jackson wouldn't tag on a dare and pumped on acid and saving the real screwing for someone who will never touch you.

Which is probably why so few furries marry within the fandom and reproduce. Most who do manage to marry and propagate, meet someone outside who drags them to reality as opposed to vice versa. Being furry more and more means no real sex life(as normal people would see it) and increasingly bizarre sexual fantasies.

Again, whatever happened to sucking, fucking, smoking, sleeping?

BTW, the art being referenced, is a total erection killer and anyone who finds ANYTHING reference on CYD to be hot, needs to be put away and heavily medicated. I mean, other than the Kira Kener reference.