Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Michael Hirtes · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 519

From a recent posting he made over at aff:

I've aways felt the people how feel the strong need to point out disturbing
things they find on the net only actually help to spread that said thing,
because more often than not, most people never even think or hear about the
stuff that SA posts, but once they're given a road map to it they are there
for only making it well known, but not necessarily for the better.

Think about it, if a truly deranged perosn wanted to find out about
something or find somewhere were there were others like them, I'd bet SA
would be a good place to look, since they pretty much give free
advertisements to those fetish off the normal path type of subjects.

That and it always makes me curious why somebody who doesn't like something
would want to spend their time creating something like a website, that takes
hours to construct properly, just to publically point out and thus give
directions to things they find disturbing. Its a really odd psychological
merry-go-round when you think about it..

I hate these people, so I'm going to create a website and update it
regularly, seeking out more things they do odd, so that others can hate them
too, but in the flip side, I'm really acting like a lighthouse for the odd
cause they'll come to see if their stuff is here to, or where they can find
it.

--
Shawntae Howard
www.extinctioners.com

Oh no! Tumor's got us zeroed in on. Game Over, man! Game Over!!

Shmorky · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 182

Yeah, SA was made specifically to- oh nevermind, that's the PoE.

This guy is missing the point of those sites. They're not there to STOP what those people are doing. They're there to laugh at them... The only time anyone would WANT to stop a horrible site is if it was pedophile encouraging and in some cases extremely racist.

What is this person really going to prove by doing this anyway?

Genghis · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 186

I never understood that either - what would PoE stand to gain from destroying the featured sites? Especially considering that, you know, the features are what makes the site worth visiting in the first place?

As for SA, the ALoD isn't exactly the main focus of the place - it takes up, what, two paragraphs a day?

Quantum Coyote · Qualificator Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 40

I LOVE how totally FUCKED the net is. The quicker society can be aware of these crazy ideas the quicker it can either buffer itself against them or embrace them. It's a whole new level of global self-conciousness, MAN

-QC

M0us3_Zero · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 209

This earns a Meh from me.

I looked at his page, nothing really scary. His opinion... Well, if he shines a light on what little good is left in the phandumb, then go for it. If only to longingly look back on what could have been.

*sigh*

I do like the concept of Hybrid Superheroes (which seems to be the gist of his comics). But for right now, the M0us3_Zero budget only affords me Gold Digger. Sorry. I can't miss an issue. -.-

So... DEPRESSING!

ZenZhu · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 475

I love it.. a "lighthouse." Yeah, he's fighting for truth, justice, and the American yiff. About what I'd expect from a guy whose every character design is a furry version of an already existing X-Men character. As stated, another one that doesn't understand that a lot of folks don't really care what kind of fetishy crap people are into behind closed doors, so long as everyone's consenting and of suitable age. But, you take it out from behind the closed doors and put it on the 'net..... you're gonna have to expect people to find entertainment value in it.

I don't really perceive anyone wants to stop furrydom from doing what it does. IMO, many would just like furrydom to acknowledge what it does. If you want to attach fuzzy dildos to your computer, do the nasty in sweaty carpet suits, and beat off to pictures of Minerva Mink with a 20-story phallus... hey... knock yourself out. But let's call a spade a spade here, folks. Deciding it was high time someone molded a dildo after a horse weenie is hardly something that has ties ancient Egyptian deities or the career of Chuck Jones... Rainbows and pawprints really don't have any relation to each other... and claiming furrydom isn't about sex while you're toting $400 worth of furry porn back to your hotel room before putting on your Slutty Bunny character fursuit with the BDSM gear really just doesn't hold up.

Wayd Wolf · Coadjutor Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 456

(EXCELLENCE SNIPPED)

That was priceless and pretty much correct.

I WOULD like to see furrydom stop behaving the way it does, but I hold absolutely no hope of it ever happening.

Shmeckopolis · Coadjutor Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 103

Smart things.

I was gonna say something, but that sums up every existable truth there is to comment about, so I'll just say "preach it" and be off...

Computolio · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 349

many would just like furrydom to acknowledge what it does.

<3 <3

Of course, this is unlikely. Furries will never take a number and get in line just like all the other fetishists of the world, oh no. They're too special.

ZenZhu · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 475

Of course not. They're not fetishists.... they're a subculture. Admitting that a lot of it is about getting their freak on would severely damage the pretense that Gadget Hackwrench porn is simply a cartoony equivalent of the Venus de Milo and has ties to Native American spiritualism.

Of course, this is where you get into the territory I mentioned before, where furries link all of their non-furry fetishes to their furry hobby like heaping chains on to Jacob Marley's ghost. For a some folks, furry is a fetish. They can't really get it up to a copy of Playboy, but pop a boner pretty readily if Tiny Toons comes on TV. But, diapers, bondage, domination, whips 'n' chains, spanking, etc...... none of that really has any relation to furry. Any given fetish and furry is like peanut butter and jelly... they may go great together if you like both, but they're really not the same thing.

It seems to me a fair number of furries.. at least among those I've encountered.. are really hung up on the idea of being better than everyone else. They treat nature with more respect than capitalist hy00mans, therefore they're better. They're more in touch with their inner animal than ignorant hy00mans, so they're better. They're more tolerant and open-minded than hatemongering hy00mans, so they're better.

Even furry terminology paints typical human behaviors in a rosier-colored light. They don't screw, fuck, or even make love... they mate or yiff. They don't have a boyfriend, girlfriend, or partner.. they have a mate*. They don't grope each other.. they skritch. And heaven help you if you dare to suggest that an unsolicited skritch is inappropriate behavior.

So, I have to wonder if some of furry behavior isn't an offshoot of people that are simply uncomfortable with.. if I may get Freudian for a moment.. the more id-based, but perfectly natural, behaviors. Things like your various fetishes that lots of people have outside of furrydom have to be painted with the brush of cartoony anthropmorphism for furries to feel okay with it. Perhaps since a lot of furries are socially inept, they have to play up the idea that the very human behaviors they engage in and enjoy are something more than that.... basic human behaviors. Maybe they can't get comfortable with the idea of being into BDSM as a person, because some part of them tells them that's bad (not to say it is.. but that they perceive it as such). But, they convince themselves that furry BDSM is somehow more enlightened and noble than simple human sexuality, and that makes it okay.

I dunno.. just spouting free-association bullcrap here.

(*Personally, I've always cringed at the use of the word "mate" by furries to refer to their bf, gf, partner, etc. Not only is it like nails on a chalkboard because it's just really poseur-ish, but it seems like a desperate attempt to force an artificial sense of lasting committment into a relationship, no matter how casual. "You and I got drunk and did the nasty that night at the last con. We're like wolves... wolves mate for life. You're my mate... for ever and ever and ever." Saying "mate" to stimulate the idea that you're forever attached to someone whom you may never have even met is kind of like considering the idea that putting on a red cape will enable you to fly.)

Afterthought:
Thinking back to the first post and Shawntae Howard's consternation at why people are so curious about the machinations of furrydom... it seems like it's kind of like watching an ant hill. You can watch them intently..... wondering what it is that goes on in their minds that drives them to do what they do. But, it doesn't mean you necessarily want to kick the ant hill over.

Genghis · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 186

Furries using the word "mate" in that sense is particularly annoying for me. I tend to use the same colloquilisms online as I do in person, and I keep wondering when someone will take the phrase "I was out with my mates last night" to mean something else entirely from what was intended...

Then again, I suspect you filthy colonials don't have that problem so much...

Rusty · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 82

Maybe they can't get comfortable with the idea of being into BDSM as a person, because some part of them tells them that's bad (not to say it is.. but that they perceive it as such). But, they convince themselves that furry BDSM is somehow more enlightened and noble than simple human sexuality, and that makes it okay.

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

mouse · Coadjutor Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 662

Of course not. They're not fetishists.... they're a subculture. Admitting that a lot of it is about getting their freak on would severely damage the pretense that Gadget Hackwrench porn is simply a cartoony equivalent of the Venus de Milo and has ties to Native American spiritualism.

Yeah, but the ones that do, DO admit its about getting thier "freak on", otherwise there wouldnt be any making fun of anything, because no one would know about it.

and the ones that dont, arnt going to admit to something they are not doing.

And everyone else is left in shocked disbelief that these people belong to the same group somehow.

Furries using the word "mate" in that sense is particularly annoying for me. I tend to use the same colloquilisms online as I do in person, and I keep wondering when someone will take the phrase "I was out with my mates last night" to mean something else entirely from what was intended...

I don't really have that prob for some reason, I always read "mate" in the way you are using it, even though I don't really hear it that often. In fact I tend to get confused for a second when someone is talking about a boyfriend/girlfriend thing.

SLaitila · Coadjutor Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 126

Who does he think he is anyway? The darned Martin luther King of cartoon animal porn?

I HAVE A DREAM!
And i recall it's a wet one...

ZenZhu · Coadjutor Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 475

Who does he think he is anyway? The darned Martin luther King of cartoon animal porn?

I HAVE A DREAM!
And i recall it's a wet one...

I bow to you, sir.

"We didn't land on furry! Furry landed on US!!!"

Much in the same way that a fat woman would land on you if you happened to be swimming under the diving board at the exact moment she jumped off.