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Charisma
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Posted: 7/14/2004 12:17:20 AM
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Being a fan of cats, cartoons and anthros, As soon as I saw Puss in Boots in Shrek 2 I hoped, wished and pleaded that Dreamworks would give him his own film.
That wish came true:
http://www.moviehole.net/news/3899.html
I wonder how long it will be before Puss in Boots fanart starts emerging from furry artists. I havent actually seen any, mind you. |
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Michael Hirtes
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Posted: 7/14/2004 12:46:35 AM
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Being a fan of cats, cartoons and anthros, As soon as I saw Puss in Boots in Shrek 2 I hoped, wished and pleaded that Dreamworks would give him his own film.
That wish came true:
http://www.moviehole.net/news/3899.html
I wonder how long it will be before Puss in Boots fanart starts emerging from furry artists. I havent actually seen any, mind you.
The AFFholes are alreeady talking about the character as being some sort of proof that Hollywood is becoming more furry.
Right! And Lola Bunny was secretly designed on purpose to be a spooge art model for fanboys. |
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Charisma
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Posted: 7/14/2004 12:59:09 AM
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yeah, Puss in Boots has nothing to do with furry, its to do with fairy tales.
But obviously furries are going to like the character alot, like I do. So I suppose theres no escape for him when it comes to spooge! |
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Big-E6
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Posted: 7/14/2004 3:46:46 AM
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I dunno. most artist like myself would mostly pay attention to character creations that are more tailored to there interest, like lola bunny or Rouge the bat.
I'm sorry but I'm just more inclined to draw those two characters.
:)
...Not that I remember, I have seen fanart of Puss in Boots, ironically for you, not buy a furry artist. :/ |
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mouse
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Posted: 7/14/2004 6:27:22 AM
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yeah, Puss in Boots has nothing to do with furry, its to do with fairy tales.
But obviously furries are going to like the character alot, like I do. So I suppose theres no escape for him when it comes to spooge!
I'm starting to look at it that - slash is its own thing. Furries will focus in on cartoon animal characters that are out in the mainstream - but in general there are people out there who just like to write/draw sex-parodies of anything imaginable.
Theres is plenty of original furry porn out there, its not like someone would have to wait for a new cartoon (or whatever) to come out to get slashed. People who like porn of mainstream material is a specific crowd - the type of characters almost don't seem to matter. |
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ZenZhu
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Posted: 7/14/2004 3:07:16 PM
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In cases like this, I think a lot of it is furries taking the natural appeal a character may have to the extreme, while also fixating on the fact that the character is not human. Puss appealed to a lot of moviegoers because he had that kitty-ky00te factor, but also the novelty of taking the essence of Banderas and wrapping it up in this amusing little fuzzy package. On top of that, Puss would have natural appeal to the female members of the audience, as he is voiced by Banderas. Knowing who the voice behind the cat is makes the character appealing and even modestly sexy in a way. Sure, the female (and some male) audience members aren't looking at the character and thinking "I'd like to count the barbs on HIS cock." but, they are probably thinking about Banderas, and getting a little hot in the pants because of the human behind the character.
Even when the packaging isn't entirely human, you can't deny that semi-human characters with some human traits have a mix of novelty and sex appeal. How many of us older folks here remember seeing Cheetara on Thundercats and thinking "Hey.. that's cool and.......... strangely....... alluring." It's not like our 12-year-old brains thought "Hey, she's sexy because she's not human." No. It was simply that, to a kid with a growing awareness of how good boobies are, Cheetara being a Thundercat was just a novel idea.
Another example is Vincent from the TV version of Beauty and the Beast. Ron Perlman's character, despite looking like an aborted lion fetus, enthralled many a female viewer. I remember seeing a news feature on the popularity of the show where women were asked if they thought Vincent was sexy. Many women said yes, and even one said "I wouldn't mind having his kittens."
Were these women furries and didn't know it? Of course not. The thing that aroused them with Vincent was his whole essence.. the notion of him being some kind of 90s guy that spouted poetry and was in touch enough with his feelings to vocalize them and such. Throw in the fact that he was something of a tragic figure (Florence Nightingale syndrome, anyone?) and you had a character that just made women jello in the knees. Contrary to the furry mindset, the fact that he had a disfigurement that made him like a lion was neither here nor there. The woman that wanted to "have his kittens" didn't literally want to have Vincent give her the bone because he was some ass-faced lion thingy.... it was everything else.
Another good example from my own view is Stith from Titan A.E. The character itself is pretty dorky looking. It's like someone put a buzzard's head on a kangaroo and then broke its legs in a few places. But.... the charater is voiced by Janeane Garofalo, whom I find to be kind of sexy. So, the wonky.. actually, dumb-looking is more like it... alien has a modest sex appeal simply because of the voice actress.
And there's where you get to the schizm between "mundanes" finding non-human characters sexy as a novelty, and furries fixating on them simply because they're non-human. You take Antonio Banderas as a human, and furries may find him mildly attractive, but nothing special. Wrap his voice and his persona up in an orange little hairball, however, and all of a sudden they find something wankworthy.
Non-furries, however, see the human aspects in a non-human character. With Puss, they see Banderas' je ne sais quois, and that's what the women find cute about him. Him being an oversized orange cat of the non-lasagna-loving variety is just...... fun. If someone were to ask them if they'd take Puss to bed, and they said yes... they're not saying "With that tail and those ears, who wouldn't?" They're saying "Uh... well... he's just a fuzzy Antonio..... oh what the hell... with enough tequilla, sure."
With Vincent, viewers keyed into his character portraying what was lauded as the way for a man to be in the 90s. The human qualities were what sold him. The packaging was neither here nor there. With Cheetara, you simply had what most early pubescent geeky boys lust after... a woman that could kick ass and had some nice curves. Thundercat, anime schoolgirl, whatever. The cheetah markings were just kind of fun.... not a hell of a lot different from the green chick guys drooled over in that one original series Star Trek episode. Lola Bunny? C'mon.. Kath Soucie could make a cup of coffee sound sexy. I haven't seen but a couple of moments of Space Jam, but from what I know if the character from all of the furry buzz, she's strong, opinionated, and all of the other stuff that makes up most comic and anime heroines. What's really funny is the qualities fanboys drool over in characters like Lola or Wonder Woman are the very things that would make those characters not even give the time of day to stinky greaseball in a garment-dyed t-shirt with a wraparound wolf print.
So, in a nutshell:
Furry mindset - Puss is an orange tabby with a tail and fuzzy ears... sexorrific, baby. Antonio Banderas voices him? Hmm.. I guess that's pretty sexy. Still, it wouldn't matter if Al Gore voiced him, that orange fur is enough to stroke to.
Non-Furry mindset - Puss is voiced by one-man stud farm Antonio Banderas. The guy, aside from being a latin heartthrob, has displayed a great sense of humor and doesn't take himself too seriously (you couldn't to willingly do something like Spy Kids). Puss is simply Antonio with a fuzzy, orange visage. That orange coat is simply a novel repackaging of the human qualities women find sexy.
That's the thing that's really kind of ironic with furries. With the exception of a few zeta fucktards, the stuff that really gets them off about characters is the human qualities. If Lola Bunny was just a brown, nonmorphic rabbit nibbling on carrots, there wouldn't be much most furries would find beatworthy. I guess that brings us back to the idea that human women are just too scary for them to deal with. |
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Charisma
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Posted: 7/14/2004 8:32:42 PM
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interesting philosophy. I like it |
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Wayd Wolf
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Posted: 7/14/2004 9:59:32 PM
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You want frightening? Imagine a 400lb. fanboy wearing an anatomically correct cat fursuit, a hat, boots, AND NOTHING ELSE.
Be afraid.
Be VERY afraid. |
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Shmorky
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Posted: 7/14/2004 10:01:57 PM
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Shrek put his pulsing green ogre cock into Puss In Boot's rectum. "Rwar!" he cried out, but soon his mouth was full of Donkey dong. The ogre t |
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Sehvekah
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Posted: 7/15/2004 12:10:01 AM
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You want frightening? Imagine a 400lb. fanboy wearing an anatomically correct cat fursuit, a hat, boots, AND NOTHING ELSE.
Be afraid.
Be VERY afraid.
Of what? That he'll trip and start rolling down the stairs while I'm on them? :roll: |
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MagKnightX
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Posted: 7/15/2004 1:01:36 AM
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Shrek put his pulsing green ogre cock into Puss In Boot's rectum. "Rwar!" he cried out, but soon his mouth was full of Donkey dong. The ogre t
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! makeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoawaymakeitgoaway! |
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Dogthing
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Posted: 7/15/2004 2:18:19 AM
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Shrek put his pulsing green ogre cock into Puss In Boot's rectum. "Rwar!" he cried out, but soon his mouth was full of Donkey dong. The ogre t
hey fuck you buddy |
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Rankin
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Posted: 7/15/2004 5:07:15 AM
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Shmorky wins the thread, and, a year's supply of rice-a-roni. |
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ZenZhu
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Posted: 7/15/2004 1:58:23 PM
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Shrek put his pulsing green ogre cock into Puss In Boot's rectum. "Rwar!" he cried out, but soon his mouth was full of Donkey dong. The ogre t
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Kadius
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Posted: 7/15/2004 4:27:08 PM
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Shmorky once again burns our minds with his special talent. *g*
Hey, if they've written that kind of garbage about The Little Mermaid and most likely even Transformers, you think Shrek is going to be spared?
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eatenmyeyes
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Posted: 7/16/2004 2:24:20 PM
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Puss appealed to a lot of moviegoers because he had that kitty-ky00te factor, but also the novelty of taking the essence of Banderas and wrapping it up in this amusing little fuzzy package. On top of that, Puss would have natural appeal to the female members of the audience, as he is voiced by Banderas.
More appealing to me was the fact that it was effectively El Mariachi 3.5. Honestly, I can not think of a more suitable fairy tale character to rewrite as a rapier wielding mercenary.
<description of similar D&D character deleted for the sake of good taste> |
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Charisma
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Posted: 8/14/2004 12:40:07 AM
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I bet the 'cat and the fiddle' was his brother.
Plus, the use of the word 'fiddle' could be left open to alot of furry porn writers...
*winces* |
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Khroan
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Posted: 8/14/2004 5:31:46 PM
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charisma where do you and your ilk come from
if so, I want the address so i can see and laugh and laugh |
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Charisma
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Posted: 8/14/2004 5:57:27 PM
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if your confidence is really that low that you feel you have to troll around, you might feel more at home at Eat All Furries.
But then you were already told that |
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Khroan
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Posted: 8/14/2004 9:03:37 PM
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OH MY GOD I AM INSULTING PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET MY SELF ESTEEM IS OBVIOUSLY LOW
I want the address still :(:(
edited because adverbs are fat |
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Kadius
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Posted: 8/14/2004 10:09:56 PM
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OH MY GOD I AM INSULTING PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET MY SELF ESTEEM IS OBVIOUSLY LOW
I want the address still.
Stop being an ass. plz. kthnxbye. |
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