But, what this guy turns a blind eye to is that, unlike the bulk of Trekkies or Star Wars fans, furries have earned their bad reputation by their actions. CSI didn't make up the idea if yiffing or scrithing or furpiles. It just highlighted it.

So, to celebrate the Japanese release of Dead or Alive Online next month, Microsoft is rolling out a special edition Xbox set with an extra-special bonus -- a dakimakura, or "hugging pillow," that features a life-size, front-and-back print of teenage character Kasumi in a skimpy bikini. <...> "I guess they're supposed to be used ... as pillows to hug, of course ... and for other obscene purposes that I would rather not mention."
Getting in Bed with the Customer

My main problem, I guess, is like many furs, I lack many social skills, more so then a lot of furs, I fear. There have been times in the fandom, where I just felt like I couldn't socialize with some people. I donno, it's not easy to describe. How does one, in his early twenties, pick up all those important social and life skills that they missed during all the important development stages? Without them, I just feel out of place trying to make friends with non-furs.

This will be my first, and final post to this forum. First of all I am a Furry (this is where I'm suppose to say "...and proud of it", but I won't. Neither will I say that I'm ashamed of same. It's a fact as to who I am. If asked, I will own my furriness and gladly explain what it is. I don't go around proselytizing, however) Deal with it.

Wayd Wolf: "Furries aren't hurting anyone? Howabout their own chances for a normal productive life?"

#ifdef SARCASM
Gee, Mr. Wolf I am touched by your concern for me and my fellow Furries. Really! I am!
#endif

Mr. Wolf: exactly who do you think you are? Who made you the final authority as to what "normal" is? Where are your credentials? In the final analysis, other peoples' lives are none of your business.

ZenZhu:

But, what this guy turns a blind eye to is that, unlike the bulk of Trekkies or Star Wars fans, furries have earned their bad reputation by their actions. CSI didn't make up the idea if yiffing or scrithing or furpiles. It just highlighted it.

Mr. Zhu: CSI is fiction. These are stories, not documentaries. So far as Furry-dom and its supposed foibles, there is nothing that they do that isn't being done in other fandoms. At least Sir William of Redmond didn't offer sex toys as an added inducement to sell the X-Crox to Furry fans. That's exactly the deal Microsoft offered Anime fans:

So, to celebrate the Japanese release of Dead or Alive Online next month, Microsoft is rolling out a special edition Xbox set with an extra-special bonus -- a dakimakura, or "hugging pillow," that features a life-size, front-and-back print of teenage character Kasumi in a skimpy bikini. <...> "I guess they're supposed to be used ... as pillows to hug, of course ... and for other obscene purposes that I would rather not mention."
Getting in Bed with the Customer

WHUDDA BUNCHA PERVS! :lol: Of course, the press didn't pick up on that, now did they? It just so happens that Furries got all the press. Oh well, C`est Le Vie!. (It also turns out that THE CSI episode brought in a lot of new Furries. Those who had some interest did some Googling, found some Furry web sites, saw what this Internet community was really like, and they affiliated with it. The only bad publicity is no publicity.)

Justin Fox:

My main problem, I guess, is like many furs, I lack many social skills, more so then a lot of furs, I fear. There have been times in the fandom, where I just felt like I couldn't socialize with some people. I donno, it's not easy to describe. How does one, in his early twenties, pick up all those important social and life skills that they missed during all the important development stages? Without them, I just feel out of place trying to make friends with non-furs.

And of course all of you just lapped that up, didn't you? No one had the cojones to tell it like it is. Well, I do, and I shall. Mr. Fox: If you believe that you are lacking in "social skills", then whose fault is that? Furry fandom didn't do this to you; you did it to yourself, and you have no one to blame but yourself. Instead of whining about this problem on an on-line forum to a bunch of strangers who don't give a RAT'S @55 about you beyond your giving them another reason (as if they needed one) to confirm their already made-up minds as to how horrible Furry fandom is, turn off the GD computer, get up off your lazy @55, and go out there and meet some real people. Stop blaming Furry-dom, the fandom to which you should show some gratitude for being there for you, otherwise your adolescence would have been far sadder and lonlier. Nor would you have developed whatever social skills you do have.

Oh, and Mitch or Computolio: congratz on digging up that obscure rag with the most biased article on Furry-dom I've ever seen: Heavy Petting. Don't you have anything better to do with your time?(!)

There is another thread that you locked, comparing this site's participants to the KKK. Actually, the comparison is quite apropos. The hard-core, KKK, bigot actually empowers the very Blacks he so hates to a remarkable degree. He allows black people to dictate where he lives, as he moves out of perfectly good neighbourhoods simply because a black family moves in. He denies his kids the benefit of a good school in favor of an inferior one simply because the latter doesn't have any black kids attending it. He throws away lucrative jobs, and even entire careers, because he can't keep the "N" word off his lips -- or his thoughts on black people to himself. Blacks positively rule his life.

The fact is that you are no different. You are constantly worrying about what "those Furries" are going to do next. You have a thread that goes on for two pages, concerning some minor incident that happened at last year's Anthrocon. Indeed, this whole forum goes on for nine pages. Jumping to the very last page, it's the same old stuff, again and again. You are more obsessed with Furry than 99.99% of the Furries.

Ironic, ain't it?

It's only the internet.

This will be my first, and final post to this forum.

First of all I am a Furry

(this is where I'm suppose to say "...and proud of it", but I won't. Neither will I say that I'm ashamed of same. It's a fact as to who I am. If asked, I will own my furriness and gladly explain what it is. I don't go around proselytizing, however) Deal with it.

It just so happens that Furries got all the press. Oh well, C`est Le Vie!. (It also turns out that THE CSI episode brought in a lot of new Furries. Those who had some interest did some Googling, found some Furry web sites, saw what this Internet community was really like, and they affiliated with it. The only bad publicity is no publicity.)

RAT'S @55

The hard-core, KKK, bigot actually empowers the very Blacks he so hates to a remarkable degree. He allows black people to dictate where he lives, as he moves out of perfectly good neighbourhoods simply because a black family moves in. He denies his kids the benefit of a good school in favor of an inferior one simply because the latter doesn't have any black kids attending it. He throws away lucrative jobs, and even entire careers, because he can't keep the "N" word off his lips -- or his thoughts on black people to himself. Blacks positively rule his life.

You are constantly worrying about what "those Furries" are going to do next. You have a thread that goes on for two pages, concerning some minor incident that happened at last year's Anthrocon. Indeed, this whole forum goes on for nine pages. Jumping to the very last page, it's the same old stuff, again and again. You are more obsessed with Furry than 99.99% of the Furries.

Ironic, ain't it?

THE CSI episode brought in a lot of new Furries. Those who had some interest did some Googling, found some Furry web sites, saw what this Internet community was really like, and they affiliated with it. The only bad publicity is no publicity.)

The internet is serious

The internet is serious business!

GET YIFFY WIT' IT!

Are you making fun of me over the internet?!!?

How dare you!!!!!! :x

Deal with it.

Wayd Wolf: "Furries aren't hurting anyone? Howabout their own chances for a normal productive life?"

#ifdef SARCASM
Gee, Mr. Wolf I am touched by your concern for me and my fellow Furries. Really! I am!
#endif

Mr. Wolf: exactly who do you think you are? Who made you the final authority as to what "normal" is? Where are your credentials? In the final analysis, other peoples' lives are none of your business.

Sure, there's some decently stable and well employed people in furry. But they are not, no matter what they like to say, furries.

We poke fun at furries cause they make themselves the fool, get a sense of humor. You're not going to affect anyone here with one biased "omg leabe teh furries allone" post. Nice try.

You're a cockshitting little mancunt of a furry nigger, an ass polyp living in the pants of a crusty, unwashed fat man, subsisting on the filthy accumulation of cock cheese and greasy anal excretions, but you're just as happy as a retarded puppy that you get to snuggle as much puckered dark meats as your sad little heart desires.

I may not expect you to know shit about the world, but I expect you to have the decency not to drag several hundred years of a people struggling for basic human needs into the garbage dump of your pathetic existence.

Look kids, random bitching about whatever that no one cares about done just to boost the ego of this poor little furry trying to look like another anti-CYD "hero" to boost her own ego.

Don't touch...

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:18 am Post subject: That Furry Obsession

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This will be my first, and final post to this forum.

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:37 pm Post subject:

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Furries have a sense of humor, I shall demonstrate.

Hey guys, it's my birthday next week.

Seriously? No shit?

Um, sorry I don't know you enough to get you a real present, but I could draw you something. We could even start a "Draw Rankin A Pic For His Birthday (not porn... maybe) " thread :P

OMG Blossom is teh LIEAR he says he only would post ONCE do teh BANNING!!!!!!!!111OMGLOLWTFXYZPDQ

Seriously? No shit?

Um, sorry I don't know you enough to get you a real present, but I could draw you something. We could even start a "Draw Rankin A Pic For His Birthday (not porn... maybe) " thread :P

Seriously. LEO in the hizzousss!

Hrrrm... I've had some friends draw me things in the past - and they tend to be quite shocked, because I say 'just draw whatever'. They usually draw me pictures of procyonids, since I like 'em. As for porn, eh.. that'd never manage to make it into my desktop rotation, so I'd see it few and far between. ;)

To show my love, and distain for all - following with my last disturbed post, I've altered lyrics to a song from Alice in Wonderland:

Statistics prove, prove that you've one birthday, just one, that fateful year.
But there are chances for a hundred, perhaps more unbirthings!
That is why we're gathered here to jeer.
A very merry unbirthing to you (to you).
A very merry unbirthing to you!
It's great to crawl into someone and I guess that you will do.
A very merry unbirthing to you!

How about just procyonid cheescake?

Sure, there's some decently stable and well employed people in furry. But they are not, no matter what they like to say, furries.

What are they, then?

Sure, there's some decently stable and well employed people in furry. But they are not, no matter what they like to say, furries.

What are they, then?

It's a good, realistic argument that not too many use. Some people just think they're furries because they see people who are into some of the same things, and those people call themselves "furries". But, being a loser is a prerequisite to being a real furry; real furries are the losers, and it's the real losers who gravitate towards -and deeper into- furry.

I did call myself that once, when I first found anthro art scattered across the internet. I had no concept that there was any sort of widespread, pervasive organization to any of it, I just thought it was a few people who happened to do art on a subject that interested me. At the time, even the weirder porn seemed almost... charming, and innocent at the time. I don't think I 'got it', what it was all about.

Based on pure evidence, I'd take the argument further and say I don't believe even the myriad fetishes make furry what it is. Throughout history and to the present day there have been doctors, lawyers and high ranking military and political figures who're hardcore fetishists, and are still successful and accomplished. These are the people we trust with our health, freedoms and safety on a daily bases. At the same time, even the cleanest fur-fan can be a total ugly ass furry fucking loser, with all the gay ass scritching and RPing and social retardation and shit that comes along with it, not to mention total wash-outs when it comes to having a decent career.

Love the sin, hate the sinner? From an objective stance, there is something deeper to it all than the porn and the perversion (which I honestly believe exists mainly because the people involved just need to get out more). Having a sexual thing for animal-people doesn't make you a loser, being a loser makes you a loser. A loser drowning themselves in anthropomorphism makes them furry.

Why anthro? Who knows. Maybe it's because animals are non-judgmental, making it something inclusive enough to allow for anyone, even the most wretched and weak individuals to be involved. Maybe it allows them to set themselves outside of the realm of humanity enough that they don't have to live up to even it's most basic standards, and outside of reality enough so that they don't have to feel any real pain from it's daily disappointments. They can't take the price of living a real, fruitful life, but are too weak and worthless to struggle and make things better for themselves.

Still, if you can hold a good job, have real friends and relationships and not be a burden on society, you get the right to be into and call yourself whatever you want, and I'll offer at least a modicum of basic respect to you. But how many -and I ask you, how many- real furries could been included on that list?

The Alice in Wonderland commentary was due to my prior comment in another thread. I have no perversions related to that - other than I was forced to sing "Painting the roses red" in music class so many moons ago.

... I still find it hard to not recall the lyrics.

Just to be clear on one thing, at least: cheesecake, beefcake, or *unf* Philly Cheesesteak? (and you get two guesses what that means)

Right, I'll be nice now.

BOW TO TEH FURRY HEROE

BOW TO TEH FURRY HEROE

See? He got somewhere with a total lack of talent, and he wasn't a furry!

This will be my first, and final post to this forum. First of all I am a Furry (this is where I'm suppose to say "...and proud of it", but I won't. Neither will I say that I'm ashamed of same. It's a fact as to who I am. If asked, I will own my furriness and gladly explain what it is. I don't go around proselytizing, however) Deal with it.

Mr. Zhu: CSI is fiction. These are stories, not documentaries. So far as Furry-dom and its supposed foibles, there is nothing that they do that isn't being done in other fandoms. At least Sir William of Redmond didn't offer sex toys as an added inducement to sell the X-Crox to Furry fans. That's exactly the deal Microsoft offered Anime fans:

And of course all of you just lapped that up, didn't you? No one had the cojones to tell it like it is. Well, I do, and I shall. Mr. Fox: If you believe that you are lacking in "social skills", then whose fault is that? Furry fandom didn't do this to you; you did it to yourself, and you have no one to blame but yourself. Instead of whining about this problem on an on-line forum to a bunch of strangers who don't give a RAT'S @55 about you beyond your giving them another reason (as if they needed one) to confirm their already made-up minds as to how horrible Furry fandom is, turn off the GD computer, get up off your lazy @55, and go out there and meet some real people.

Stop blaming Furry-dom, the fandom to which you should show some gratitude for being there for you, otherwise your adolescence would have been far sadder and lonlier. Nor would you have developed whatever social skills you do have.

There is another thread that you locked, comparing this site's participants to the KKK. Actually, the comparison is quite apropos. The hard-core, KKK, bigot actually empowers the very Blacks he so hates to a remarkable degree. He allows black people to dictate where he lives, as he moves out of perfectly good neighbourhoods simply because a black family moves in. He denies his kids the benefit of a good school in favor of an inferior one simply because the latter doesn't have any black kids attending it. He throws away lucrative jobs, and even entire careers, because he can't keep the "N" word off his lips -- or his thoughts on black people to himself. Blacks positively rule his life.

The fact is that you are no different. You are constantly worrying about what "those Furries" are going to do next. You have a thread that goes on for two pages, concerning some minor incident that happened at last year's Anthrocon. Indeed, this whole forum goes on for nine pages. Jumping to the very last page, it's the same old stuff, again and again. You are more obsessed with Furry than 99.99% of the Furries.

Ironic, ain't it?

That is not a wolf!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY RANKIN


your gift is some jpg compression yaaay

That is not a wolf!

edit: A-Ok

How about just procyonid cheescake?

How about just procyonid cheescake?

That is not a wolf!

edit: A-Ok

I gave you cool hair :P

And my birthday is on the 10th. I think I'll be afraid....very afraid.


The Outsider

KLIK HEER.

Now that's what I call coon cheesecake!

thx! !1!!1!!!!1!!1

U LUV ME! Well, I LUV U 2.

KLIK HEER.

P.S. I came in your cake. Oh yeah, take it all.

I started to do one of my famous $50 commission pinups, but decided not to for either one of two reasons: a) I'd run the risk of exposing my secret identity, and subsequently my lucrative sideline of Furbid and CD sales might be affected, or b) I'm really not an artist and suck horribly.

Why.. why does this make me feel this way? So warm.. so.. so wonderful! Is this, could it be, a prelude to hot hot man-lovin'? But, I've never..!

I-I don't know where to start, what should I do? O-okay, touch there..? Like this? Isn't it... dirty? Oh, I don't know what I'm supposed to feel!! This is all so confusing to me...

GOD WE'RE A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS. EVERY ONE OF US.

Am not.

Am not.

Denial is not a river, sugarlips. :twisted:

Am not.

Denial is not a river, sugarlips. :twisted:

I'm very Very VERY hetero. Heck, part of the reason I didn't do well in certain circles of furdom was because I am hetero.


The Outsider

RANKIN

A little belated. I didn't find a wolf.

Stop being so mean... or I'll never tell you what I did to your brownies..