Crush...Yiff...Destroy! Crush...Yiff...Destroy!
The CYD Forum Archive
 

TARGET: This will be interesting.
   Crush...Yiff...Destroy! Forum Archive Index -> Chit Chat
Author Message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/23/2004 5:41:07 AM     Post subject: TARGET: This will be interesting.  

Ok, the subject title is more or less to get your attention, but anyway... This seems like the largest gathering of "Anti-furs" I've come across, so I figured this would probably be the best place for me to strike up a conversation.

First off, yes, I am a fur. I enjoy the furry genre and consider myself a part of it.

Secondly, no, I did not come here to start a fight and/or over power you with my vast knowledge of the why and how being a fur is so great. Anyone coming here (or any other similar site of this content) trying to sway you away from your negative ideals toward the fandom, is on a power trip beyond all other forms of enlightened mental retardation... and coming from a fur... that should mean something. There is a fine line between speaking your mind and diving head strong into a pointless blaze of glory for you what believe in .

More or less, I would like to know why the fandom is looked down upon so heavily by so many, or even just by admitting that I'm a fur, what are the first assumptions of me are:
My life style
Personal habits
Downfalls
Set backs against humanity
and so on and so on...

As a trade off, I will not stay for a great period of time as to become an enduring nuisance, as well as answer and (Honest/Real) questions you may have for me.

Fair enough?

Sign...
Blaits

***Side note: Blaits is the name for my Fursonia. That of being half wolf and half bat, and explanation can be given if so requested pertaining to why even go as far to create imaginary version of myself. ***
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Computolio
Vociferator
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Posts: 405

Posted: 8/23/2004 7:31:14 AM     Post subject:  

DUDE IF YOU HAVE TO ASK YOU'LL NEVER KNOW
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The New Meat
Vociferator
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Posts: 403

Posted: 8/23/2004 8:00:52 AM     Post subject:  

I guess if you come here claiming to be a furry, we'd probably all assume you'd be a big whiny baby. And all that that entails. Hope that helps.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "setbacks against humanity." Dur.


As for your avatar Blaits, I will assume you created it because you like both bats and wolves. At least, that is what I hope, because that's the ONLY acceptable reason for creating an online avatar (I'm not going to call it a fursona). If you did it because you have a mystical connection to bat wolves or because, deep down inside, you feel that you have the soul of a bat wolf or because you want to stick your penis inside a bat wolf, then we shall all laugh.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SLaitila
Prattler
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Posts: 165

Posted: 8/23/2004 8:02:29 AM     Post subject:  

what are the first assumptions of me are:


You're japanese.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MagKnightX
Prattler
Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 196

Posted: 8/23/2004 10:01:56 AM     Post subject:  

My first assumptions of you are:

I hate you.
You're fat and gay.
Your real name is Clarence.
You enjoy fucking otters.
You're no longer allowed at the zoo.
You need a shower.
Badly.
And... hmm... you're a goth.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dogthing
Venter
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
Posts: 257

Posted: 8/23/2004 12:42:09 PM     Post subject:  

I suppose I came in here assuming you to be how your average fur is, which is dirty, unkempt, unwashed, ornery, whiney, and antagonistic.

You seem to have a little more common sense than the average furry, though, so now I can't really be sure.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Josh Z.
Qualificator
Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 31

Posted: 8/23/2004 12:42:53 PM     Post subject:  

You're a foxbat.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/mig-25.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Paul
Venter
Joined: 01 Feb 2004
Posts: 215

Posted: 8/23/2004 12:59:08 PM     Post subject: Re: TARGET: This will be interesting.  

More or less, I would like to know why the fandom is looked down upon so heavily by so many

Have you looked at the CYD main page? Check out the articles, the reference library, and be sure to read the "About" thingie. That should give you an idea.

Also, while some of the threads in this forum are merely poking fun at, or even simply bashing furrydom, a good many other threads are full of well-considered analyzis and pretty much objective dissection of the nastier parts of "furry". Like it's been pointed out again and again and again when it's that time of the month where a furry finds CYD and decides to post on the forum, no one (or at least very few) here hate furry fandom. In fact, we're here because we like the anthropomorphic art the fandom is (or rather was) based upon. But we don't like the all-too-obvious grottier aspects of the fandom, and we don't like the fandom's flat-out acceptance of those aspects.

I hope that explains something.

EDIT ADD-ON:
First off, yes, I am a fur. I enjoy the furry genre and consider myself a part of it.

As a trade off, I will not stay for a great period of time as to become an enduring nuisance, as well as answer and (Honest/Real) questions you may have for me.

Well, I'm curious now - are there no aspects of the fandom you find sick, wrong or repulsive? If there are, do you agree that the fandom as a whole is overly tolerant of that? If your answer to either of these is a "no", I would be interested in reading your reasoning. If "yes", how do you feel comfortable considering yourself part of the fandom?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Kadius
Venter
Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Posts: 254

Posted: 8/23/2004 1:37:48 PM     Post subject:  

My qualms with furries are as follows:

They don't know when to shut up about their personal life. (Specificly, sex life.)
Inability to accept/deal with reality.
I don't subscribe to the 'I'm a wolf trapped in a human's body' idea.
I don't want to hear about their sexual escapades.
Over tollerance of sexual deviants. (That means dogfuckers like Ebon Lupus.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZenZhu
Vociferator
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 669

Posted: 8/23/2004 3:02:29 PM     Post subject: Re: TARGET: This will be interesting.  

I read through the first part, and thought this might open a bit of interesting discourse.

***Side note: Blaits is the name for my Fursonia. That of being half wolf and half bat, and explanation can be given if so requested pertaining to why even go as far to create imaginary version of myself. ***

Then I got to this part and said, "Fuck it."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:07:53 PM     Post subject:  

I guess if you come here claiming to be a furry, we'd probably all assume you'd be a big whiny baby. And all that that entails. Hope that helps.


I don't bitch and I don't whine. I can't stand it when others do, so why do it myself?

As for your avatar Blaits, I will assume you created it because you like both bats and wolves. At least, that is what I hope, because that's the ONLY acceptable reason for creating an online avatar (I'm not going to call it a fursona). If you did it because you have a mystical connection to bat wolves or because, deep down inside, you feel that you have the soul of a bat wolf or because you want to stick your penis inside a bat wolf, then we shall all laugh.

Well, I do like wolfs and bats, but really, I choose them because they really seem to reflect my personal traits. A wolf being a member of the pack, doing what it can to ensure the survival of the pack (or for me, my friends and family), and than the bat. Which is a creature very commonly misunderstood and sees without it's eyes (My interoperation is I see others not souly upon how they look (inner self)).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZenZhu
Vociferator
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 669

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:15:06 PM     Post subject:  

I sense Computolio's vicelike grip of lockitude descending on this thread.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:15:43 PM     Post subject:  

My first assumptions of you are:

I hate you.

I'll get over it.

You're fat and gay.

No, I'm actually very slim and muscular. I work out regularly. Oh yeah, I don't dig the cock. I'm am of the heterosexual persuasion.

Your real name is Clarence.

My real name is Scott.

You enjoy fucking otters.

I don't think I've seen an otter in real life?

You're no longer allowed at the zoo.

A safe bet for an animal rights activist, but your assumption does not apply to me, I can still go.

You need a shower.

Well yeah? I just got up. I have to shower before I go to work. Don't you? Unless your imply that I don't regularly shower, in which case I do.

Badly.

I wouldn't say badly, but I'll take one anyway, just to make you happy.

And... hmm... you're a goth.

Nope, as much I like Goths, I'm not one.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:16:45 PM     Post subject:  

Umm... I'll be back later tonight to reply to more post. Got to head off to work.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Shmorky
Venter
Joined: 22 Nov 2003
Posts: 208

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:17:40 PM     Post subject:  

who cares
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZenZhu
Vociferator
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 669

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:22:08 PM     Post subject:  

Oh yeah.. this is so headed for the lockdown.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MagKnightX
Prattler
Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 196

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:36:23 PM     Post subject:  

who cares


Throw ya set in the air, wave it around like ya just don't care...

To Blaits: I stand by my first impressions.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Paul
Venter
Joined: 01 Feb 2004
Posts: 215

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:37:58 PM     Post subject:  

Aw, cut the guy some slack. He's being polite, and he has the decency to say he enjoys the furry genre, rather than the lifestyle or the philosophy or the (ugh) ideology, as some of the more deranged visitors have claimed...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZenZhu
Vociferator
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 669

Posted: 8/23/2004 4:57:58 PM     Post subject:  

True.. but... as Mike and Comp will be quick to point out... this isn't A.F.F or Furtopia. Why someone chose a wolf-bat hybrid (only slightly less trite than a wolf-fox hybrid) has absolutely no bearing on what appeared to be the original intent of the first part of the post, and smacks too much of "H1 GUY5! 0MG 1 AM S00 1NT0 TEH FURR13! 1'M A CUDDL13, Y1FF13 F0XBAT! WHUT SP3C13Z R U? A/S/L, PLZ!" for me to lay any good odds on this threads survival rate, given the other stuff that tends to get locked.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The Outsider
Coadjutor
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
Posts: 100

Posted: 8/23/2004 5:14:33 PM     Post subject:  

Aw, cut the guy some slack. He's being polite, and he has the decency to say he enjoys the furry genre, rather than the lifestyle or the philosophy or the (ugh) ideology, as some of the more deranged visitors have claimed...


I have to agree with that (no, this doesn't mean I'm in Blaits' corner, it merely means I agree with Paul's statement).

I do want to point out to Blaits that while I cannot speak for the others in CYD, I can speak for myself. I was involved in furdom from 1994-2000, and I witnessed elements of furdom devolve to its current state. Back in 1994, furdom wasn't Mayberry RFD, but it sure wasn't Sodom and Gamorrah (sp?). Example: ConFurence 6 (1995), a commission request would be an illustration of my character Fawn. ConFurence 11 (2000), a commission request would be an illustration of two male wolves nakey and doing the deed (the request I quickly turned down and the patron ran off to have me thrown out of the convention, which didn't happen).

Also, when people told convention stories back then, the stories usually reflected the emotional errors of well-known fans or artists. These days the stories still exist as the emotional errors still continue, but they're more sexual in nature.

Partly because of furdom's de-evolution is why I'm...
The Outsider
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Quatrewolf
Qualificator
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Posts: 39

Posted: 8/23/2004 6:16:00 PM     Post subject:  


Well, I do like wolfs and bats, but really, I choose them because they really seem to reflect my personal traits. A wolf being a member of the pack, doing what it can to ensure the survival of the pack (or for me, my friends and family), and than the bat. Which is a creature very commonly misunderstood and sees without it's eyes (My interoperation is I see others not souly upon how they look (inner self)).
:o

Well,that means anyone can be a wolf. Since wolves are social animals and we all care for are families,then all humans must be wolves inside.

Not just though,I could say I'm like a wolf...but I go around online as a coyote.

And the whole bat thing.....to feel like a bat,it has more to do than just looking at the inner self,you have to be nocturnal and like being in a big family group.(much like a wolf,huh?). Besides,only humans think this animal is misunderstood.

The bat's just going on about it's daily business.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
M0us3_Zero
Venter
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 252

Posted: 8/23/2004 6:19:34 PM     Post subject:  

Blaits, there's a reason why some people here are reacting to your initial post so directly.

It seemed like the typical script a "phurraie" uses to bait reactions they can edit to post on their forums to slander us. In the furry corners of the internet the acronym CYD is the equivalent to the Shustaffel's SS or even... Something Awful's SA *gasp!*

Yes, some furries believe that Something Awful is worse than Nazis.

Now, you seem to be a reasonible fellow who probably came here after someone posted a link to it slamming us. If you were coming here because of that, then good for you. You should find out what something is before joining the hype against it.

It's that sort of free-thinking I respect. Not following the herd.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZenZhu
Vociferator
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 669

Posted: 8/23/2004 6:31:03 PM     Post subject:  

Well,that means anyone can be a wolf. Since wolves are social animals and we all care for are families,then all humans must be wolves inside.

Not just though,I could say I'm like a wolf...but I go around online as a coyote.

Of course, any rationale for depicting one's self as anything other than human is really just smoke, mirrors, and pillow stuffing. Not to say it's not fun... and people do have quirks, mannerisms, or physical features that may remind you of an animal....but, really, there isn't any way to liken one's self to a certain animal on any truly "deep" or "meaningful" level. In the end, it has about as much relevance as telling someone "If I was a car, I'd be a Subaru Forrester."

If.... IF.... this thread survives, I'll go into more detail on the original questions. But I hate to type a dissertation into a thread that may not live to see tomorrow.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
The New Meat
Vociferator
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Posts: 403

Posted: 8/23/2004 8:01:34 PM     Post subject:  

So far Blaits has only lived up to these initial reactions. He posts here asking us to spout out furry stereotypes and all his posts since have pretty much been "NUH UH I'm not like that!!!" Therefore he's proven himself to be a big whiney baby. And maybe fat, too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ZenZhu
Vociferator
Joined: 22 Mar 2004
Posts: 669

Posted: 8/23/2004 9:28:36 PM     Post subject:  

My reaction thus far can be summed up....... thusly:

Blaits: I'm a furry and I want to know why furry has such a bad rap.

Me: Okay, he seems receptive enough and curious, rather than trolling. Not your typical furry.

Blaits: By the way, I'm a cuddly lovey misunderstood whuffbat.

Me: Uhp.. nope. Nevermind. The typical furry apparently thinks this is Furcadia.

Blaits: I have to go to work now.

Me: Okay, he doesn't think it's Furcadia... he thinks it's #furry.... at least he's going to a job.

If it wasn't for the drivel about his character's species and why it is so, I might have been inclined to not dismiss it as lockbait so quickly. It doesn't really have any relevance at all to the question, let alone anything in general.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Kilsanth
Recusant
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Posts: 7

Posted: 8/23/2004 11:09:11 PM     Post subject:  

Just wanted to let you know, that I have a good understanding of the CYD reasoning now, and most of it is genuine. Aside from a few posters, they have a quite reasonable view on furry.

They dont like the extreme fetishes(vore, taur, pedophilia, unbirth etc..) being widely accepted as furry, and those people who do them being considered 'furry'. As a whole, it degrades the entire fandom, assosiating anyone involved with those activities. I agree on this.

Many dont like the idea of people's self delusion, in thinking they are an certain animal inside, or were one in a past life etc.. With some, it breeds depression(as they cant become what they want to be, and ive felt this). As well, it seems more like a ploy to make them stand out so they can claim to be diffrent than the rest of the world. Many people get lost in the 'furry' world and seem to block most of reality out, thus the implication of unkept slobs.(Which I dont think is entirely true, but I do believe much of it is self delusion).



They have had their share of people coming on simply to get responses so they can post them somewhere else and critize. Thus, its likely thats why they respond to your post that way. They thought that is was what mine was about, it seemed like I was trying to bait them into looking like nazis. It is true that many of them are fans of furry art, but left the community due to its current course as a fetish haven. (look at zen zhu's posts, he seems to bring the most logic to the table.)

I posted a thread, explaining my rather unwholesome past in an attempt to get some helpful insight on what caused it and how I measure up to the rest of the fandom. See, I enjoy furry quite a bit and used to consider myself intune with dragons and such. I respect the beauty and aspects that many animals have. Somewhere along the lines respect turned into me doing rather unsavory things with animals(which im now quite ashamed of, and have no desire to do again). Yet, the furry community accepted me, and said 'its ok'. I knew deep down, what I was doing was simply not right, but I confused my sexual deeds, with what it truly meant to me.(the problem was, I didnt come to thisite with a clear mind, and found myself defending my perversions, and trying to make excuses for them). Most the replies that followed, were just nonsense,pointing out my defensive words and telling me in a number of ways: your being ignored now. Although, there were a couple nuggets of insight that I found helpfull.

My belief is liking anthros,respecting their habits and aspects and even considering yourself as being one, in soul or in a past life is fine. Roleplaying as one, having a deep desire to be one, and enjoying that is fine (though will always be considered wierd at least) as well. Its hen it
becomestoo much, to the point of depression, or when it becomes a way of life, that is an escape from reality. As well, things like *cough* animal rape, pedophillia, vore etc.. should not be accepted as 'ok' ethicly or mentally. These are the things they primarily mock. Some posters, though are just close minded and would rather sling insults for whatever reason. But you'll run into that in any fourm, discussing any topic. Its best to ignore them.

It is my understanding that, the reason for this site is to point out these issues and either discuss them or bash them. For the good parts of the fandom to not be misunderstood, and for their own curiosity and amusement. You wont get very far trying to get direct results by explaining yourself or your situation, its best just to browse through the threads, if you want a true understanding of their position.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Charisma
Prattler
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Posts: 163

Posted: 8/24/2004 12:39:05 AM     Post subject:  

While I agree with ZenZhu about Blait's 'drivelling' on about his character's species, the guy did come here in good cause. I guess I came here a while back for the same reason. To learn. To understand both points of view instead of blindly assuming that the fandom is all innocently open minded and angelic.

I don't really care wether the furry fandom is either good or bad, corrupt or the god damn way forward to peace on Earth. I'm just interested in the drama of it all and how scarily seriously everybody seems to take it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
huips
Recusant
Joined: 24 Aug 2004
Posts: 1

Posted: 8/24/2004 9:02:32 AM     Post subject:  

Well, I do like wolfs and bats, but really, I choose them because they really seem to reflect my personal traits. A wolf being a member of the pack, doing what it can to ensure the survival of the pack (or for me, my friends and family), and than the bat. Which is a creature very commonly misunderstood and sees without it's eyes (My interoperation is I see others not souly upon how they look (inner self)).
oh for the love of god shut up
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/24/2004 12:35:30 PM     Post subject:  

Like I said before, I didn't come here to start a fight, nor I'm am I going to post a link to another message board "OMG, look how the Ass holes attacked me because I'm a fur!". To hell with pointless argueing of something stupid as this. Anyway, I'm here being a fur, I think I am judge to quickly, or better yet "labled" into a certain steriotype. I want a better understanding of just what I'm being thought of. I thought that by coming here and watching the reactions and reading the replys, I would better know where ever one is coming from and how to defend myself, dare I say avoid needless bashing.

Ok, to answer a questoin earlier back about what do I not like about the the fandom, or at least some of the people in it.

1. The people who believe they are an animal traped in a human body. Ok, if that's your religious belive, congradulations, you believe in reincarnation. If you are saying otherwise... dear god you need help. If some one tells me "Hey, I'm a wolf", wow that's great, "No, I mean with fur and fangs"... I would probably introduce them to the Caro Mental instatution not to far from here. They can spend the rest of their days lazily next to the man there who believes he is a glass of Orange Juice (Yes the instatution does exist, as well as the man who believes he is a glass of OJ.)

2.The extreamist. And by that, those who venture out of their way to find a way to start a fight about their rights. There are people out there that put themself in a line of fire, and will start all unholy hell because someone took a shot at them. (Granted what I'm doing looks the same, but I'm not flying off the handle and outright starting an arguement.)

3. Plushies/Fur suits. I'm not truely against them, I do not hate them or even greatly dislike them... I just truely don't understand all the hyp, nor the discontent for them. I could see how they enjoy the fantasy, or perhaps it's just their fetish... but how they could pariad around in them is beyond perplexing. As for the discontent, I personaly don't see a differance from putting on a fursuit and inguaging in sexual activities, than those who prefer leather, latex, or rubber. Others would preffer to be bound in chains, whipe cream, silk, their own fecies for god sakes... the fur is odd to me still... but it could be so much worse.

Another note, I may have been to quick to judge this board. I was not to the understanding there was even a somewhat acceptance to the furry genre, mainly the art. I'm a big fan of the art, and have drawn some myself, mostly just characterizations, nothing to brag about, but not bad. If you wanna see them, just look under the name "Blaits" on the VCL.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SLaitila
Prattler
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Posts: 165

Posted: 8/24/2004 4:50:26 PM     Post subject:  



*edit: Original image HUGE
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Skunkfuckers Inc.
Prattler
Joined: 20 Jan 2004
Posts: 159

Posted: 8/24/2004 6:15:55 PM     Post subject:  

Gee Blaits, you're just really kinda lame.

While I agree with ZenZhu about Blait's 'drivelling' on about his character's species, the guy did come here in good cause. I guess I came here a while back for the same reason. To learn. To understand both points of view instead of blindly assuming that the fandom is all innocently open minded and angelic.

I don't really care wether the furry fandom is either good or bad, corrupt or the god damn way forward to peace on Earth. I'm just interested in the drama of it all and how scarily seriously everybody seems to take it.

I love you. You are a gurl, right?
If you are, I'd dump everyone else in a heartbeat for you my love :wink:
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/24/2004 9:22:15 PM     Post subject: Re: TARGET: This will be interesting.  

More or less, I would like to know why the fandom is looked down upon so heavily by so many

Have you looked at the CYD main page? Check out the articles, the reference library, and be sure to read the "About" thingie. That should give you an idea.

Also, while some of the threads in this forum are merely poking fun at, or even simply bashing furrydom, a good many other threads are full of well-considered analyzis and pretty much objective dissection of the nastier parts of "furry". Like it's been pointed out again and again and again when it's that time of the month where a furry finds CYD and decides to post on the forum, no one (or at least very few) here hate furry fandom. In fact, we're here because we like the anthropomorphic art the fandom is (or rather was) based upon. But we don't like the all-too-obvious grottier aspects of the fandom, and we don't like the fandom's flat-out acceptance of those aspects.

I hope that explains something.

EDIT ADD-ON:
First off, yes, I am a fur. I enjoy the furry genre and consider myself a part of it.

As a trade off, I will not stay for a great period of time as to become an enduring nuisance, as well as answer and (Honest/Real) questions you may have for me.

Well, I'm curious now - are there no aspects of the fandom you find sick, wrong or repulsive? If there are, do you agree that the fandom as a whole is overly tolerant of that? If your answer to either of these is a "no", I would be interested in reading your reasoning. If "yes", how do you feel comfortable considering yourself part of the fandom?


Sorry for the late response to your post, it being one of the more enlightening and sensible ones. Those articles as to which you posted out to me were more than enlightening. I guess a lot of that in there showed me a "the bad" of the furry fandom.

I more or less answered your question in my last post for me dislikes of certain content of those in the genre, but to answer your second question if I understand it correctly... Yes, knowing all the dip shits, extremist, and others who just kill the experience for the others who even moderately enjoy it, I still consider myself part of the fandom.

America is the big brother of all the Nations and tends to push itself where unwanted, not to mention so many other "questionable" acts that take place in or because of my country, yet I will always consider myself an American. That's a bit of a stretch when compared the furry genre, but the same rules apply don't they? Some people screw up or just plane look bad, but others are ok right?... Or is it possible that simply I misunderstood what it is to be a furry?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Khroan
Qualificator
Joined: 29 Dec 2003
Posts: 38

Posted: 8/24/2004 9:34:26 PM     Post subject:  

helo there, Furry Troll #75385845

I see that you have moved to step 1 of the Fagdance: 'omg i'm a furry yiff yiff i also blundered in with a suicide head-butt into a forum that makes fun of my kind oh god my brain is blinded by all this circlejerking on Furcadia and so i will stupidly believe everyone will love and accept me and give me *huggles*'

then: 'omg i am not a stereotype', which is what EVERY SINGLE FURRY EVER EVER has said

so, now i will sit back and lol or Computolio will ban me :( :(
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Charisma
Prattler
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Posts: 163

Posted: 8/24/2004 9:52:34 PM     Post subject: Re: TARGET: This will be interesting.  

America is the big brother of all the Nations and tends to push itself where unwanted, not to mention so many other "questionable" acts that take place in or because of my country, yet I will always consider myself an American. That's a bit of a stretch when compared the furry genre, but the same rules apply don't they? Some people screw up or just plane look bad, but others are ok right?... Or is it possible that simply I misunderstood what it is to be a furry?


That's quite a good comparison for an example of what you're saying, although you can't control being born an American, whereas it is your own desicion to call yourself a furry.

Just out of curiosity, what aspects of the fandom are you involved in?
Art, fursuiting/cosplay, roleplay, MUCKs, furcadia, message boards, plushies?

I love you. You are a gurl, right?
If you are, I'd dump everyone else in a heartbeat for you my love


yep, lets get married. Is Saturday good for you?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/24/2004 9:59:19 PM     Post subject:  

helo there, Furry Troll #75385845

I see that you have moved to step 1 of the Fagdance: 'omg i'm a furry yiff yiff i also blundered in with a suicide head-butt into a forum that makes fun of my kind oh god my brain is blinded by all this circlejerking on Furcadia and so i will stupidly believe everyone will love and accept me and give me *huggles*'

then: 'omg i am not a stereotype', which is what EVERY SINGLE FURRY EVER EVER has said

so, now i will sit back and lol or Computolio will ban me :( :(


Cute... I really like who you throw in a Faqdance for nothing more than a quick and easy insult. I guess when you don't know anything about the person you don't like, any insult will do, right? But where does the "Omg I'm a furry yiff yiff" come from. I can double back and look at my post, I don't even think I mentioned the word yiff. I'm not going to bitch and moan over your uneducated guesses/wild stab in the dark, as to why I am here and started up this topic. So, to only clarify, I'm not here for a hand out or to gain acceptance. God damn, I just wanted some insight from the other side.

I understand I'm not a part of this board and canít honestly ask for to much, but damn... can't you at least be cynical in a manor that is not redundant or gives nothing to the conversation?

Side note: Sorry for getting off topic with the furry species. I only figured might as well get it out of the way as to avoid a random insult of what someone would assume it to be. Guess I thought to much into it, and it back fired anyway.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blaits
Recusant
Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 8

Posted: 8/24/2004 10:06:22 PM     Post subject:  


That's quite a good comparison for an example of what you're saying, although you can't control being born an American, whereas it is your own desicion to call yourself a furry.

Just out of curiosity, what aspects of the fandom are you involved in?
Art, fursuiting/cosplay, roleplay, MUCKs, furcadia, message boards, plushies?


Me:
I've drawn and made some art.
I've never fursuited, and don't really plan on it.
I've done some (Online) roleplaying, but not in a long time actually.
I'm not to all familiar with MUCKS, if thatís a word for life chat roleplaying (like you can do in the IRC channels), I've done that.
Furcadia, not familiar with that term either.
Message boards, yes.
Plushies... No, I'd rather date.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
m_estrugo
Prattler
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Posts: 189

Posted: 8/24/2004 11:56:53 PM     Post subject:  


Me:
I've drawn and made some art.
I've never fursuited, and don't really plan on it.
I've done some (Online) roleplaying, but not in a long time actually.
I'm not to all familiar with MUCKS, if thatís a word for life chat roleplaying (like you can do in the IRC channels), I've done that.
Furcadia, not familiar with that term either.
Message boards, yes.
Plushies... No, I'd rather date.


You're inside furry fandom enough to know its lingo. You said, "Blaits is the name for my Fursonia." You didn't say "my alias", or "pen name", or even "avatar", but fursonia (maybe a misspelled "fursona"?). This makes many ears perk up on these latitudes.
Let's continue. Your explanation of why you've chosen a wolf-bat as your personal character isn't well explained.
"A wolf being a member of the pack, doing what it can to ensure the survival of the pack"...
I think many other animal species that would fit this explanation better. Like bees or storks. Wolves are better known for teaming up with others to hunt their preys. Saying they oath their fidelity to the pack or whatnot is mere speculation. Unless, of course, your idealized image of yourself fits your idealized image of a wolf.
Why you haven't chosen a bee or a stork? 'Cause WOLVES LOOK COOL. Therefore, you've chosen to LOOK COOL. I wonder if that's your real desire, to look cool? Does that mean you don't look so cool in Real Life?

"(the bat) is a creature very commonly misunderstood and sees without it's eyes (My interoperation is I see others not souly upon how they look (inner self))."

So here you give a few more hints about yourself. If you feel identified with a creature "very commonly misunderstood", you obviously feel misunderstood. And if a bat 'sees your inner self', that means you've got obvious self-esteem problems, you aren't so happy with your image and would like people to look at your inner self 'cause it must be much prettier than your outer look.

In other words, I think you have chosen those animals not 'because they reflect the way you are', but because you WISH you were like you think they are. And you have chosen to do an hybrid of two totally unrelated species 'cause, well, I'd say it's the latest fad, courtesy of merchandising products like PokŤmon and Digimon. Why being a dull wolf when you can be a wolffoxsquirrelzebrafoxagainantelopegoathippotaur? :)

This is the cause of why you have had such a harsh response by some of the posters on this thread. I hope you understand it. We've seen it way too many times before.

Now, I admit you have behaved quite politely. You just want to know what is so bad about being a furry. Apparently, you've been told we impale and eat furries here on a daily basis. That's not my case. I can't speak for the whole of CYD, but my own opinion is that I don't hate furry fandom, but the blatant idiocy some furs display, their inability to cope with reality and, in some cases, their total irresponsibility.

It's my opinion that the 'anthropomorphic genre' could have had a much more flourishing life if some of its components didn't transform it into 'something else' than a mere geeky fandom. During that process, the fandom lost many talented, professional-level artists who were replaced by not-so-talented amateurs; the expectances to make 'furry' a real genre vanished; the hopes to find furry sections on comic shops gone, destroyed, squashed by the lack of sense of some people.

I am a cartoonist, with growing hopes to make a career out of my doodles, so I'm obviously biased towards comic books and graphic products in general. I'm obviously offended as I see one of the things I like to draw the most endangered.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Computolio
Vociferator
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Posts: 405

Posted: 8/25/2004 2:26:22 AM     Post subject:  

see i have this button here and it makes bad threads go away
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message