Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Skunkfunker · Recusant Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 17

http://www.deviantdesires.com/map/mappics/map81002.gif

Big map of all the perversions, kinks and deviant acts you can think of, and possibly more. Our Favourite Fandom is located just up and left of centre. Anything on there the Furs haven't done yet?

Actually, just say if they have. No need to prove it with charts or graphs, or anything.

MagKnightX · Prattler Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 196

I think that the very existence of some of these proves that there is no god.

Gas pedal pumping? Popping zits and plastic bags? Headphones? Clowns? Dear sweet Jesus, Clowns?! Blind and deaf people. SANTA SUITS?!?

"Come, sit on my lap, little girl, and tell me whether you've been naughty or nice!"

No. There is no kind and loving god.

Donotsue · Venter Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 209

Who can take a plush toy
Sprinkle it with spoo?
Dress it up in leather
And add SPH or two
The Furryfan
The Furryfan can

The Furryfan can
Cause he fills it with his love
And claims his poop tastes good

The Furryfan makes
All the art he fakes
Horrifying and malicious
Talk about your fanboy wishes
You can even sleep with fishes

Eah.. Can't think up anything better here... Whattaya expect? -I'm foreign!

Charisma · Prattler Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 163

I think that the very existence of some of these proves that there is no god.

Gas pedal pumping? Popping zits and plastic bags? Headphones? Clowns? Dear sweet Jesus, Clowns?! Blind and deaf people. SANTA SUITS?!

As long as it hurts noone else in anyway, I think its absolutely beautiful how different humans can be from one another in their sexual desires. Sorry to sound corny!

Donotsue · Venter Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 209

Oh no... Now you went and said it... You robbed us of our powers to judge the furs.. . =)

I'm melting... meeelting...

GoManVanGogh · Prattler Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 194

Who can take a plush toy
Sprinkle it with spoo?
Dress it up in leather
And add SPH or two
The Furryfan
The Furryfan can

The Furryfan can
Cause he fills it with his love
And claims his poop tastes good

The Furryfan makes
All the art he fakes
Horrifying and malicious
Talk about your fanboy wishes
You can even sleep with fishes

Eah.. Can't think up anything better here... Whattaya expect? -I'm foreign!

*golf clap*

Who can, with a P.C.
Make the angels cry
Fantasy obsess with
And reality, deny

The Furry Fan
The Furry Fan Can">

Charisma · Prattler Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 163

Funny how 'furverts' is up there and not just 'furries'. I thought furvert was a term only used by furries? Just like Fursona etc.

I thought the car crash one was the strangest :shock:

MagKnightX · Prattler Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 196

As long as it hurts noone else in anyway, I think its absolutely beautiful how different humans can be from one another in their sexual desires. Sorry to sound corny!

Well, of course, if by absolutely beautiful you mean conducive to COMPLETE AND UTTER TERROR!

Charisma · Prattler Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 163

nah, why should it matter to anyone if someone has a shoe fetish etc?
It'd be quite sad if everyone just did the missionary positon and that was it.

Paul · Venter Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 215

As long as it hurts noone else in anyway, I think its absolutely beautiful how different humans can be from one another in their sexual desires. Sorry to sound corny!

You're right of course... vive la différence... but... "Cars stuck in mud"? "Nose growth"? "Saline injections"? What the fucking fuck?

Funny how 'furverts' is up there and not just 'furries'. I thought furvert was a term only used by furries? Just like Fursona etc.

Well, "furvert" is a very descriptive and aposite word, while for most people "furries" is a non-existing one. (And "furry" simply means "covered with fur" unless they know what we know.)

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 403

Hey, I own a copy of the book that chart first appeared in, "Deviant Desires." Looks like author Katharine Gates has updated it since the initial publication though.

As for the book, if anyone remembers it, it only very briefly covers furries. Many more pages devoted to clowns, inflation fetishes, and ESPECIALLY pony play. Really. Pony play takes up like half the book.

If I'm not mistaken, Katharine Gates is quoted as some sort of expert on furries (which I guess was sorta true at the time, since she was probably the only "researcher" who even acknowledged that they existed) in the Vanity Fair article.

Totally unrelated, I just realized that she's the only other person besides my sister who spells her name with two A's. OMG!!!!!!!!

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

There's a furry for each of these kinks. Especially the inflatables down bottom. Pony play is more common among S&M freaks. Furries must find pulling someone around in a cart to be too much like labor.

BTW Donotsue, you did better than a lot of Americans or Brits whose first language is English. Pointing up the sad state of education here. For further proof, check out our hip-hop scene.

Edit: Charisma, no one is saying (not that I know) that there shouldn't be any fetishes, but there's two things to recall:

1. An occasional sexual oddity every so often is a kink. A kink done constantly is a fetish. A fetish done every day begins to embody the maxim that "familiarity breeds contempt" and soon enough, something new has to be found, usually more extreme, and so you end up with... many people in furry.

2. Furries don't stop with having kinks and fetishes. They turn them into the be-all and end-all of their existance, make acceptance of it a litmus test for judging the humanity of others, and always wrap all of anthropomorphics in it. So anyone who likes anthropomorphics gets tarred and feathered by it. Thanks to too many in furrydumb not grasping this, furry has become what it is today.

I love strippers and lesbians. So freaking what? Not like it has a bearing on every farking thing I ever do. That's when it goes too far, and sadly, many of the practitioners of the crap on that chart take it exactly that far. Furries especially.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Prattler Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 159

As long as it hurts noone else in anyway, I think its absolutely beautiful how different humans can be from one another in their sexual desires. Sorry to sound corny!

You're right of course... vive la différence... but... "Cars stuck in mud"? "Nose growth"? "Saline injections"? What the fucking fuck?

It's that fine difference between a harmless kink and a fetish. The way I understand it, a clinical definition of 'fetish' is something that overshadows normal sexuality, to the point of not being able to enjoy sex without the fetish involved. It becomes about fucking a "thing", instead of being with someone.

Kinks aren't bad, in fact they're probably healthy. They just don't take over your personality or sense of self, like a full-blown fetish can. I assume a fully developed, healthy sexuality is a natural barrier against slipping into the absurd extremes, which goes with one of my theories about why furries exist at all; that some part of their sexual and emotional maturity was left underdeveloped, causing normal relationships to be impossible to maintain. So we have the prison gay, the fursonas, the tinysex and all the other substitutes/barriers furries put up to protect themselves from real life emotional involvment (and all the little bumps and bruises to the ego that naturaly come with it).

Furries lack strength of character, because they're missing out on life. And it's all their own fault.

Funny how 'furverts' is up there and not just 'furries'. I thought furvert was a term only used by furries? Just like Fursona etc.

Well, "furvert" is a very descriptive and aposite word, while for most people "furries" is a non-existing one. (And "furry" simply means "covered with fur" unless they know what we know.)

A "fur fetish" in the mainstream is beautiful women wearing fur coats, which I don't think you can argue with; that's actually pretty fucking hot.

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

Furries lack strength of character, because they're missing out on life. And it's all their own fault.

One of the best statements I ever read right there.

A "fur fetish" in the mainstream is beautiful women wearing fur coats, which I don't think you can argue with; that's actually pretty fucking hot.

Especially if they wear nothing beneath. :twisted:

ZenZhu · Vociferator Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 669

Everything I've come across supports Skunkfucker's recollection. A fetish is defined as something used to achieve arousal and gratification.. be it a physical object, physical attributed, etc. A true fetishist cannot achieve arousal and/or gratification without the involvement of the item or subject that is the subject of the fetish.

For example, if one finds women's shoes alluring on women, and even finds the shoes themselves alluring to a degree (the character of Maurice on Northern Exposure was revealed to have something of a fixation for women's shoes), but doesn't really fixate on them or require them for arousal, it's not technically a fetish. In the loose sense of the word, as has become the modern usage, a fetish is really not much more than a kink.

And, technically, "kinky" simply implies something that is different.. not inherently sexually deviant. Once on the Dr. Laura show (the few times I listened to it before I passed her off as a hag), a lady called in bitching that Bert on Sesame Street had used the word "kinky." Ernie was playing pretend with a toy phone. He convinced Bert to try it and, when he discovered it was kind of fun, he apparently commented, "Hey, this is kind of kinky." The women went apeshit because she thought they were implying phone sex. (Not to suggest that some of the folks at Henson, Inc. didn't decide to push the envelope with a word they knew would get a rise, but that was defensible by its true definition.) In the true sense of the word, however, Bert was simply saying that pretending to talk to someone on the phone was not your everyday thing, but fun.

I think that's where folks get into a lot of head-butting over what is proper and what isn't. Kinks are just different, and people's range of what defines "kinky" vary broadly. To some, oral sex with the lights on is kinky.. to others, it's hum-drum.

There's nothing wrong with kinks. Hell, six-breasted macro hermtaurs is a fairly harmless kink.

But, when you start insisting that's what furry is all about, you're hurting the associations the word "furry" has, and that's not exactly helpful.

Charisma · Prattler Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 163

I don't think Ive ever fully thought about the difference between a fetish and a kink. Thanks for explaning that for me Zenzhu and Skunkfucker.