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Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

Now, I'm going to assume that the members here have some interest in things in the anthro genre, generically named FURRY. I"ve noticed, looking through the many articles started here, that it is more or less geenrally agreed on that the current state of furry isnt' what it used to be.

So what I want to know, in all honesty, what is felt that can be done to improve this state of thought decline? What are your contributions to the improvement of the overall material that is put out there publically? I know many of you have the concept that it can't be saved (which I think is ridiculous because fandoms aren't soemthing that can be saved since like many trends they change as people and the times change).

Have you positively or negatively at some point contributed to the upswing or it's down swing in the past decade?

Instead of making more post about complaining I think it's time to start making some post about possible solutions to what is perceived to be a problem.

Myself, my area of contribution has been in printed media, doing somthing that had rarely been done in anthromorphics prior, doing something on the superhero/action realm will combining it with the genre of anthro in a more serious fashion and not in the usual funny animal tone.
My goal, to make the genre of using anthros in comic format seem more serious yet still entertaining with the highest quality of art I am capable of producing at this time period. As time goes on and my skill level and experience increases hopefully the willingness to take more books in this genre more seriously will happen. So far, reviews from the Comic Buyers Guide (received a B), Aspen Comic's talent reviewers, and Marvel critiquers have been positive. Now if RL concerns can give me more time to produce more in a faster time frame.

Critism for the sack of being critical is useless if it has no ultimate goal of having some action happen. It may be amusing in the short term, but ultimately useless in the long run.

Donotsue · Venter Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 209

Well I found the net and the furries and mucking 10 years ago.. and got in it innocently.. making some Toon dirt... and talkin' dirty online... =)
Fans loved the art... WB hated it.... and Quozl stalked voice actors. =)

Then I went to few cons where I sold filth and pranced round like an idiot... but for me twas just a weekend of goin' nuts inna foreign faraway land...
I could still go to a con whenever I visit CA again... but I am old now...
Least the few furry aquaintances got me a visit to WB backlot and Disney Studio... Their security obviously had not been warned bout not letting me in. =D

Little by little it began to come apparent to me that there is always something wrong with every furfan.. something. More or less.. but always something. Bad social skills or lazy eye...
But as long as there are no Nekobes behind my door, all is well and I can continue doing sarcastic art, pigs and ordinary vanilla porn vixens...for those few who do wanna fap with them! =)

Haven't done anything good to mend the bad name of the fandom.. but least I try not to contribute to it by "freaking out the mundanes"! =)

It's a damn hobby.. not a lifestyle! -Bathe, bathe you buggers! Use a fork and change undies! Get other hobbies besides fapping at toonporn! =)
And just have fun.. life is short!

10 years it took but now "Teeny" and "Donotsue" are used as keywords in porn sites all over ! =)
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*One man can make a difference, Michael!*

Rangifer · Recusant Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 9

Myself, I try to understand what concepts have disappeared in the mess of furry's past and to disfruit them in my works. By now I'd swear that not a single word of the ctitique moved to furry today is hitting the target and actually catching why furry has become the oddity of today.
But I fear this isn't the right place for such question. While here there are several people who actually care for the future of the fandom, I see that most say they don't actually care, but they rather like to wait and look as the final disaster takes place. (Good luck waiting...)
That question should be asked in the places full of supposed artists whose only concept of art is copying from other furry artists and feeding prints to Furbid... two easy and fast ways to feel like they are contributing while they are just milking the cow as much as they can. Maybe before repenting and joining the bitching crew, against the same thing which filled their wallets until one minute before.
Most furry critique forum are an excellent place to discover obscure and interesting artists as they get mocked, but other than that, don't waste your time trying to open a dialogue about furry critique...

Later,
Scale

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 355

As an artist, I try to produce anthro art of a higher caliber to offset the weirdass badly drawn shit that overflows the fandom and I do my best to make it clear that not ever person who likes drawing anthros is batshit insane in a bad way.

Someday I hope to have my own comic which will not be 'furry' but anthro based and aimed at discerning adults and I will beat senseless any 'furry' I catch making porn of it. :twisted: Nobody fucks with my characters.

Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

As an artist, I try to produce anthro art of a higher caliber to offset the weirdass badly drawn shit that overflows the fandom and I do my best to make it clear that not ever person who likes drawing anthros is batshit insane in a bad way.

Someday I hope to have my own comic which will not be 'furry' but anthro based and aimed at discerning adults and I will beat senseless any 'furry' I catch making porn of it. :twisted: Nobody fucks with my characters.

Ah, now you understand why I would get bent out of ahape about hearing someone wanting to upload art that wasn't created for the net.

For the artists, where can your work be seen? I think you all should really advertise yourselves more if you want to set the example of what real anthropomorphic art is in contrast to "furry" (which I gotta be honest, I'm not sure exactly what the real differnce is other than the change in word or the intent of the work).

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 403

In all honesty, I don't want it to change. I think it's absolutely hilarious, and if it wasn't such a cesspool of depravity what would we have to laugh at?

Though if I had to pick one thing, I'd say they should just stop being such whiny little bitches about everything. If more furries would just develop a sense of humor...

Rankin · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 727

I dressed up like one would to go... oh.. I dunno, IMPRESS people when I went to the single convention I attended.

This had the practial upshot of every 'mundane' coming to me to ask me what 'my convention' was about. I was flabbergasted, and a bit embarassed. Never again.

However, I did explain to them that it was a celebration of many different aspects of animalia, from those who enjoy the artistic qualities to those who wish to get in touch with their 'feral' roots. I never mentioned that it was a bunch of socially-inept losers trying to fuck eachother for a lack of other abilities.

I also gave an (albiet shitty) chat (sig) on procyonids, as I was asked to. The best thing to come out of that was that 'Bungee Skunk', as usual, was too wrapped up in his own mind to bother noticing that the mustelid panel was over, so he annoyed others with his scent and stupidity long after my sig was over.

I tried to paint a 'nice', 'happy', or even 'semi-adjusted' face onto furry, but it's much easier to remember Baloo with a strap-on than someone trying to be somewhat dignified in a circus.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Prattler Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 159

What is or was your contribution

Wads and wads of semen.
And I've got pornography posted on VCL.

Donotsue: I want to see the mature artwork you've drawn. I sent an email, private message, carrier pigeon* and overland parcel with an all-natural sheepskin inflatable ewe, nerve pills and $1000 in drug money inside, all with the promise to behave myself completely and not get your furniture all sticky.

Someday I hope to have my own comic which will not be 'furry' but anthro based and aimed at discerning adults and I will beat senseless any 'furry' I catch making porn of it. :twisted: Nobody fucks with my characters.

Taking a quick look at your gallery (unless there's more somewhere else), most of the characters are.. uh, I'll be forgiving and say "heavily inspired" by Sonic the Hedgehog or Gargoyles. Of the three I see that that aren't, these two aren't given much identity as 'characters'.

Only this one (which I really like) has enough personality and visual uniqueness as a character to stand on her own. Did I miss anything? Because I'm not being mean here. I'm criticising your body of work, while musing on how fiercely you stated you'd protect your unique creations.

Not that you don't have that right, but too many furry artists needlessly blow it up and shove it everyones face as if every little thing they've crapped out was a golden nugget coming like a gift to the gods.**

Though if I had to pick one thing, I'd say they should just stop being such whiny little bitches about everything. If more furries would just develop a sense of humor...

Oh god, yes. Please. I think you'd find that if they got off themselves, stopped being total pussies and stopped spazzing on any and every little thing that could possibly in even the tiniest way be construed as slightly negative or disapproving towards them (even when it's something any normal person would see as not even close to being negative), not only would I stop wanting to shove their faces into a boat propeller, but forum posts would be less asslicktastically lame all around. I think most furries go around looking to be offended, because they suck.

*yes, inside the actual pigeon you will find a note. Just pull on the little string hanging outside of it's butt.
**Yes, I did just quote a Meat Loaf song, and yes he is a god.

Quantum Coyote · Coadjutor Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 89

Sorry but I gotta nit pick:

Ebonyleopard Wrote:

things in the anthro genre, generically named FURRY.

Isn't that backwards?

Have you positively or negatively at some point contributed to the upswing or it's down swing in the past decade?

Hmm I doubt either.

<<Socially mal-adaptive crazy lazy eye attack ENGAGE!!>>

mouse · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 740

So what I want to know, in all honesty, what is felt that can be done to improve this state of thought decline? What are your contributions to the improvement of the overall material that is put out there publically?

I think only time will tell. What any one individual or group does doesnt really matter. There really isn't anything that can be done, unless it was sweeping - and that really didn't work out too well the last time it was tried. Furry fandom has kind of turned into its own entity and its still changing (IMO)

In fact I may have given a shit where furry fandom ends up maybe 8 months ago .. nowadays I really couldn't care less. Im just along for the ride in my spare time. The only thing furry fandom introduced me to that I liked - that I really hadn't seen before was cartoon animal pin-ups on thier own with no outside context. Or just simple character designs, focused on one type - cartoon animals - a subject I've always liked (like you might see at yerf for ex.). Which I dont really care what anyone thinks - I kind of like that sort of simple art once in a while. Focused - just characters with no backgrounds, or maybe with really ornate nice backrounds..whatever. What I had originally I gotten into furry for was what I thought I would find there - cool stories, funny comics, etc.. and I didn't find. Or rather, a lot of what I found was old. I tried to start at the beginning, I bought old comic books, and read about past events and people of furry fandom. When I was caught up to the present I realized that the fandom actually is all fucked up. But again I don't really care about that.

I don't contribute either way for your original question. I don't create for fandom Im not an artist or writer - I showed up out of curiosity and as a fan. I don't think my behaviour has ever really made furry fandom look bad. Some people seem to think arguing on UseNet somehow makes furry look bad...well whatever. At this point my only interest in this fandom is laughing at stupid shit, fandom politics, and fighting with people on the internet over petty, meaningless points of debate. seriously.

But as long as there are no Nekobes behind my door, all is well and I can continue doing sarcastic art, pigs and ordinary vanilla porn vixens...for those few who do wanna fap with them! =)

Your art that I have seen, I don't even think is that bad. And I've seen the adult section of your site too. The pin-up type of art in your gallery, has a finished look to it and has enough of a sense of humor to it that I don't think it would really shock anyone. And I mean like average joe type people. Thats just my opinion anyway. I seen some tasteless Tiny Toons comics on your site that I thought were fucking hilarious.

I think its furries acting stupid about furry porn and erotica, or taking it to truely disgusting/bizarre levels thats made it creepy, or other behavior and attitudes that have caused outsiders to pile all kinds of baggage on the type of art. not really the pics themselves (in most cases anyway).

Donotsue · Venter Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 209

Today's contribution... =)

Rankin · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 727

I love you, Donny.

Thanks again for not putting me in a J.K. styled comic. :)

The Outsider · Coadjutor Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 100

What did I contribute during my tenure in furdom? It depends on who you ask. If I list what I consider contributions, I'll get slammed for having a big honking ego. I'll just say that of my over 65 published credits, over half of them are furry/anthropomorphic related. However, I'm probably better known as The Great Unknown, Steve Who, Tam Man, and The Guy That Inked SHANDA. Those are the complimentary nicknames.

The Outsider

Paul · Venter Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 215

I have not contributed to the furry fandom in any way. I'm interested in comics in general, and have an affinity for what used to be called funny animal comics in particular. It's just a slight preference - I also gladly read comics with human characters.

I discovered furry fandom exclusively via the internet. Through the years I've bought a good number of comic books by people more or less associated with the fandom (like Steve Gallacci), but until about two years ago, I actually had no idea there was such a thing as a "furry fandom". I've been surfing the net a lot, and thoroughly researched "furry" art archives, web comics and forums in the belief that this was a place to find good "antro" art and comics. How wrong I was. All this net surfing has taught me that what originated as a fandom centered around anthropomorphic art has long since developed into something else completely. The reason I'm here is sheer fascination with this total trainwreck of a fandom.

The term "anthropomorphic art" tells me it's something with humanized animals in it, simple as that. But the term "furry art" has my alarm bells going off. It indicates to me that this particular art is created by someone somehow involved with the furry fandom, and to me that just sends signals about all the sick crap going down in the fandom.

I really don't give a hoot about what happens to furry fandom. I'm with The New Meat here, the fandom supplies me with laughs, nothing more. But if it should change into something unfunny, well, so be it.

I don't care about the fandom other than as a source of LMAO simply because I get most of my "anthro" comics from sources not affiliated with the fandom. I've stated it before, I'll state it again: There are plenty of good "anthro" comics and art out there, and they're made by people who aren't furries and bought by people who aren't furries either.

Incidentally, I'm working on some funny animal comics myself. I've had a few short stories published in anthologies that have nothing to do with "furry": general anthologies by publishers who simply publish comics, not a particular genre of comics. And when the time comes to sell the two projects I'm currently working on (one a collaboration with an artist who out-draws me by far, with me as co-writer; the other my own project entirely), they will be pushed to publishers who are in no way connected with, or pandering to, furry fandom. Because that would IMO only be limiting and damaging. And completely unnecessary, as there is a much, much bigger audience of "ordinary" comics readers, who regard funny animal comics as just another aspect of comics, like western or superhero comics, and who are blissfully unaware of furry fandom.

Furry fandom, in any constructive sense, is a lost cause - and a dead end to people who want to make "serious" anthropomorphic art. Notice how the really big "anthro" talents have nothing to do with the fandom, either because they were never involved with it in the first place, or because they left when they had the chance to make it big in the real world. What's left in the fandom are the nutjob fanboys, the hopeful amateur artists and those art talents who content themselves with making money drawing skunkhermtaur porn.

Dogthing · Venter Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 257

I contribute nothing, really. I just like observing and being snide.

Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

Today's contribution... =)

What has Captian Chipmunk done to warrant your artistic attentions and creative time?

Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

I have not contributed to the furry fandom in any way. I'm interested in comics in general, and have an affinity for what used to be called funny animal comics in particular. It's just a slight preference - I also gladly read comics with human characters.

I discovered furry fandom exclusively via the internet. Through the years I've bought a good number of comic books by people more or less associated with the fandom (like Steve Gallacci), but until about two years ago, I actually had no idea there was such a thing as a "furry fandom". I've been surfing the net a lot, and thoroughly researched "furry" art archives, web comics and forums in the belief that this was a place to find good "antro" art and comics. How wrong I was. All this net surfing has taught me that what originated as a fandom centered around anthropomorphic art has long since developed into something else completely. The reason I'm here is sheer fascination with this total trainwreck of a fandom.

The term "anthropomorphic art" tells me it's something with humanized animals in it, simple as that. But the term "furry art" has my alarm bells going off. It indicates to me that this particular art is created by someone somehow involved with the furry fandom, and to me that just sends signals about all the sick crap going down in the fandom.

I really don't give a hoot about what happens to furry fandom. I'm with The New Meat here, the fandom supplies me with laughs, nothing more. But if it should change into something unfunny, well, so be it.

I don't care about the fandom other than as a source of LMAO simply because I get most of my "anthro" comics from sources not affiliated with the fandom. I've stated it before, I'll state it again: There are plenty of good "anthro" comics and art out there, and they're made by people who aren't furries and bought by people who aren't furries either.

Incidentally, I'm working on some funny animal comics myself. I've had a few short stories published in anthologies that have nothing to do with "furry": general anthologies by publishers who simply publish comics, not a particular genre of comics. And when the time comes to sell the two projects I'm currently working on (one a collaboration with an artist who out-draws me by far, with me as co-writer; the other my own project entirely), they will be pushed to publishers who are in no way connected with, or pandering to, furry fandom. Because that would IMO only be limiting and damaging. And completely unnecessary, as there is a much, much bigger audience of "ordinary" comics readers, who regard funny animal comics as just another aspect of comics, like western or superhero comics, and who are blissfully unaware of furry fandom.

Furry fandom, in any constructive sense, is a lost cause - and a dead end to people who want to make "serious" anthropomorphic art. Notice how the really big "anthro" talents have nothing to do with the fandom, either because they were never involved with it in the first place, or because they left when they had the chance to make it big in the real world. What's left in the fandom are the nutjob fanboys, the hopeful amateur artists and those art talents who content themselves with making money drawing skunkhermtaur porn.

Serious Anthropomorphic artist like whom?

And I don't think it's far to many by generalizing with broad brushes by saying everybody this or that is this or that. Just as a general rule to myself I try not to think that way. At one point I thought pretty much everyone one CYD were pretty much a bunch of counter whinners that were wasting their time as much as those they were complaining about.

Now I know that that's not the case and a majority of you can carry actually intellegent conversations and debates. Of course you still have your few, I'm going to show how cool I am by being a wise ass and answer things with cursing and flames, but I can say that not everyone on CYD is like that. I don't think everyone in furry are creepy folks with too much time on their hands because I can think of some really talented people who see it more as a hobby and just another artform to express themselves in.

If you're doing a book, then good luck. I would say though, that why you may not necessarily like them, it would be foolish to alienate a reader base that is still more liikely to support you in sales so that you can get off the ground. Be like Fox and WB. They started off with a bunch of Black orientated shows to get themselves established, once that happened, heh, they cut them off and went in other directions.

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 612

What has Captian Chipmunk done to warrant your artistic attentions and creative time?

Just be glad Donny wasn't drawing "Grampa Toilet".

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 405

this thread was ass, but donotsue fixed it

Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

this thread was ass, but donotsue fixed it

Sorry, I don't go after people out of the blue or have anything overly negative or otherwise to say about anyone.

Just wanted to find out what some of the movites of some of the members when it comes to the over all topic of this forum and frankly learn if there are any projects people are involved in that they would like to bring to light.

I see there are artists here, but I have very little knowledge of just what some of them do save for Donotsue frankly, who's talent level is on par of a professional animator, though sometimes subject matter can be a bit...creepy, but then I guess that's the point of it.

mouse · Vociferator Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 740

I really don't give a hoot about what happens to furry fandom. I'm with The New Meat here, the fandom supplies me with laughs, nothing more. But if it should change into something unfunny, well, so be it.

I don't care about the fandom other than as a source of LMAO simply because I get most of my "anthro" comics from sources not affiliated with the fandom. I've stated it before, I'll state it again: There are plenty of good "anthro" comics and art out there, and they're made by people who aren't furries and bought by people who aren't furries either.

Well, Ill buy all kinds of comics, furries read comics from furry fandom and also "anthropomorphic" comics - as in mainstream stuff that contains cartoon animals (I also read other mainstream stuff when its good - which in my opinion isnt too much.). I just don't draw a line between the two other than point of origin. Ill continue to compare furry comics and other fandom related stuff to be the along the lines of listening to some friend's 'garage band' for free at their house, or paying $250 to see some supergroup at a staduim (or any shade inbetween really)

And that kind of ties into what you mention earlier, some people succeed and move on other things - some of them might cut ties with fury fandom because they are afraid. But to me, thats stupid. The people who have nothing to worry about are the ones who worry the most. This shit is an industry and its about sales. You could be having all kinds on anonymous fursuit sex and drawing horrific cartoon pornography, and if you could turn around and write/draw a comic that could sell a 100,000 copies ...whos gonna give a shit? People like things by artists or musicians because of what it is - not because of intimate details of the creators life (whatever those details are). In fact its really immaterial.

What you see in furry fandom is stuff thats on the fan level - its usually people who arn't professionals. Or when it is, its professionals who enjoy what they do and share it with others. Its fan art, its shit people do for fun or ..uh other reasons. It sounds like its common sense, but I almost never see it refered to like this. Most of it isn't supposed to be hung in art galleries. I like cartoon animals and characters like that, so I might actually like some artist who draws those type of characters or material - even if they are pretty mediocre - skill wise. Same way I can go to a local music show and listen to bands that really arn't that great, but they may be playing the type of music I generally like to begin with.

Furry fandom, in any constructive sense, is a lost cause - and a dead end to people who want to make "serious" anthropomorphic art.

I would just say no, only for the reasons above. To me its two totally unrelated things. If some successful person in comics or animation or whatever started actively participating furry fandom it really wouldn't make a difference. As long as they didnt go batshit and thier work deteriorated. Just as if someone good enough to go very far starts in furry fandom - they will most likely leave - if not just because they are going to have a lot of other things to do. The problem is stemming from other aspects IMO.

The people who are most well known in furry fandom are people who have a lot of time and basically devote a large portion of thier lives to it. They go to all the cons, they do tons of commissions etc etc. Theres nothing intrinsically wrong with that, but you see how someones horizons can be obscured in doing so. All thats on an individual basis though. Maybe thats all they want is fandom life. Not everyone who draws stuff wants to do it for a living. The guy that wrote that Image comic: Puffed, the last issue he wrote a little message for all the readers basically saying he's done with comics and he's gonna pursue his real dream - his hair metal cover band. It sounds stupid, but I say more power to the guy, thats cool as hell that he did that.

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 612

Sorry, I don't go after people out of the blue or have anything overly negative or otherwise to say about anyone.

Liar.

Rankin · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 727

Liar.

I will gladly pay you Tuesday for fucking off today.

Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

Sorry, I don't go after people out of the blue or have anything overly negative or otherwise to say about anyone.

Liar.

Mike you know as well as I do that I am normally replying to something outragous you say, since you admit you are the type that likes to stur up things.

That' is your function afterall, just looking at many of the post you've started here. You seek out things to be outraged about, which is cool, everyone's gotta have a hobby. Though you are incredibily thin skinned and easily bated.

And no I don't go after people unless they either start with me first, or say something that is just out right unbelieveably stupid.

That and I'll be honest, as far as you are concerend, you are my personal furry. What does that mean. Basically you will react to anything in such a predictably "furry" way, it is sometimes sport just to get you to react because it's so easy to get you to react. Childish? Yes, very. Entertaining at times, well, yah.

Of course, it could be also noted that it'd be hard press to find me 'going at' anyone other than you. Wonder why that is (which I've already documented why I feel the way I do about you in my intro post here so I won't rehash).

And now for the rebut, not that there really is any need for one since it'd be very predictable anyway and I'm sure nobody wants to see a grown man reduced to school yard "I know you are but what am I"s.

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 612

Mike you know as well as I do that I am normally replying to something outragous you say, since you admit you are the type that likes to stur up things.

Stir things up. Yeah right. Whatever.

Just STFU now, ass. You still have no idea of just what you did to me, have you?

Ebonyleopard · Coadjutor Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 92

Mike you know as well as I do that I am normally replying to something outragous you say, since you admit you are the type that likes to stur up things.

Stir things up. Yeah right. Whatever.

Just STFU now, ass. You still have no idea of just what you did to me, have you?

Guh, Net talk. Was typing shut the fuck up that much of a challenge. And no, I don't know what I did to you, nor do I particularly care. You're way older than me and got more issues than the Action Comics. And if you're mentally disturbed, then take some meds and be done with it already, just stop whinning about how evil furries have been to you. It's old.

Nobody likes a whinner, particularly closet furry ones, Mr. Ordering commissions of harem girls surrounding your fursona under the table, while shouting on the highest mountain about the evils of furry.

I have more respect for those here are serious about their dislike about furry than those who say they do, yet still acts like one undercover.

Your current contribution to furrydumb, as you say, is a obsessive net poster, who commissions barely legal adult artwork of male dominance over women, and was a one time pornography publisher. Thumbs up.

Back on topic...

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 612

Guh, Net talk.

No, bitch. That's real talk coming out of me. I would think that by now you would have known that there is no "net Hirtes" and "real Hirtes". There's only one Hirtes, and the one you're dealing with is seriously pissed off at you, guy.

You don't pull the shit on me that you have been lately and expect to get away with it. Not anywhere, and especially not here. This is the place that's supposed to be a haven from asshole tormentors like you. Fuck off back to AFF and have your fans suck your dick.

Sorry folks. Call it netdrama or whatever, but I'm not gonna sit quietly still while this swaggering fucktard waltzes in and casts accusations towards me. I'd think by now you guys know that I have a Zero Tolerance policy for insects like him.

Was typing shut the fuck up that much of a challenge. And no, I don't know what I did to you, nor do I particularly care.

And that's why you're such a prick. if you had a brain you would understand what you just did, or at least the common sense to not pull what you did.

You're way older than me and got more issues than the Action Comics. And if you're mentally disturbed, then take some meds and be done with it already, just stop whinning about how evil furries have been to you. It's old.

Right now you have my undivided attention. Fuck the rest of furrydumb for the time being. YOU are gonna be my hobby. Just ask Brian O'Connell what it feels like when I turned my attention towards him. Larcenistic little shit can't get commissions hardly anymore now, and I really do hope he curses mine and Jerry Collins' names from his deathbed for it too.

Nobody likes a whinner, particularly closet furry ones, Mr. Ordering commissions of harem girls surrounding your fursona under the table, while shouting on the highest mountain about the evils of furry.

Oh, you're just mad because they're not superhero ripoffs (which is your kink). Don't worry. Marvel will get around to you sooner or later. Just ask Bob Liefield.

Come on bitch. Make up some more accusations about me that you don't know jack shit about. You're on a roll tonight, obviously. Then again, so am I.

I have more respect for those here are serious about their dislike about furry than those who say they do, yet still acts like one undercover.

Aha! You're just another one of those "Once a furry, always a furry!" dickbites, I see. We've already discussed your sad-ass type here before. No doubt you haven't read far back enough to find the thread.

And what sort of "undercover" are you babbling about now, fanboy? Have I EVER claimed that I stopped enjoying anthropomorphic art? That's another thing about you furries (and yes, you are very much a furry); the notion that you clowns are High Holy Lords who demand that people must embrace your sick little yiffy world and submit to it's rule in order to be allowed to view the Sacred Images, and those who dare to disobey are forever banished & denied laying their eyes upon anything with cat ears or a tail ever again.

Well sorry to tell you this guy, but I've been watching Sonic X for months now and the AFF Secret Police haven't busted down my door yet for committing this unauthorised viewing of teh phurrie stuph.

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 405

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