Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

ever since seeing that episode of she spies i have had intrest in the whole animal suit thing. If I insult you out of ignorance, educate me, do not just scream and run.
I say this because half of what I have yet encountered has been flame-and-run postings on other boards, unfortunatatly almost all the rest has been , psycopathic, porn.
Then I found this place. is this finally a place to get real answerers?
(To make an analogy, although a bad one, ypou could ask the guy inthe prom dress puking his guts out about transvestitisim, but, you wouldn't get a very clear picture.

again I say, If you are insulted by this message, please reply only if you care to discuss the issue.

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Then I found this place. is this finally a place to get real answerers?

I guess that depends what the question is. no idea what you are even asking. What is SheSpies? You want to try furry suit sex after seeing it ? go for it. Seize the day and all that.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

I'd advice you to read thru all 10 pages of threads... it oughta take a week... or two. =)
And then check out all the Articles... and art gallery... furryfans.com cartoons...

And after all that, should ya start suiting up, you know how to prevent... Fur.... Madnessssss....!

Suit is not a symbiote!

Genghis · Venter Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 277

psst... it's okay to swear here.

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

psst... it's okay to swear here.

Watch your fucking language boy, don't make me get the belt. :D

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I'm getting damn tired of all y'all's fucking swearing and shit. It offends the piss out of me. :D

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

the question is, how much historical evidence is there? I mean your info only goes back to the 1970's, another page places anthro art in egyptian temples. what happened in the intervening centuries?

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Id almost think you werent serious....

Just to answer it
Yeah people have been drawing human characteristics on animals forever. Who cares about the stuff inbetween because theres too much. Furry fandom originally formed around modern, contemporary cartoons - which was a great idea and filled a definite niche. If furry fandom was going to include appreciation for all animal anthropomorphism that would have been great but the fandom is too fucking stupid for that sort of intellectual base. There'd have to be a much stronger interest in anthropology and archaeology and culture ... and there isnt. There is however a big interest in type fucking and whatever else. Most furries dont even care about cartoon animals in contemporary or pop culture anymore. Its really only about themselves.

I dont have a problem with porn or any of the other crazy shit you see. Ill go as far to say some of the stuff I mentioned above could have even co-existed with all that. Its rather that the stuff I mentioned has been mostly cast aside.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

the question is, how much historical evidence is there? I mean your info only goes back to the 1970's, another page places anthro art in egyptian temples. what happened in the intervening centuries?

Watch out for this classic shell game furries use to suggest their fandom extends farther back than the cartoon era. In furry logic, anything that has an animal with human traits, or vice versa, is a product of "furrydom." They're so quick to paint anything with fur with the broad brush of furry that they don't bother to distinguish between what is a product of furrydom, and what is non-furry anthropomorphics.

Depictions of the animal-headed gods on Egyptian temple walls is anthropomorphic, but not what one might consider "anthro art" in the modern useage of the term. As it stands today, at least in the circles I used to run in, "anthro art" implies work typically created by furries. Even if not created by furries, "anthro art" in modern terms seems to most frequently refer to imagery where animal characters are given the capacity for human thought and, usually, speech. Often, these characters are more of an allegory for human conditions. Watership Down is an example of this, where the rabbits' plight can be likened to human conditions and events.

On the other side of the spectrum are the "anthro works" where an animal character or cast of anthro characters is simply substituted for human characters. Disney's Robin Hood is an example of this, as there isn't much difference between putting an animated fox or Kevin Costner in the roll of Robin Hood.... except maybe the cartoon fox can act and has the advantage of not sporting a mullet.

Depictions of Egyptian deities is "anthro art" only in the loosest sense. It's not produced with the intent of focusing on anthro characters. It is only anthroporphic by coincidence, as it does contain depictions of animal/human hybrids. I might be splitting hairs here, but in my semantic sense, images of Egyptian deities (not counting modern images by furries of Anubis with a dripping cock) are anthropomorphic, but not "anthro art." Furry would like to think all forms of anthropomorphism are a subset of furrydom, when, really, it's the other way around. Furry is a subset of anthropmorphics, which is simply the attribution of human characteristics to animals, or animal features to humans.

Suggesting depictions of Egyptian or Hindu deities are "anthro art" is really like suggesting... hmm... like suggesting that any organism living in the ocean is a fish. Rather than having the larger group of marine life, including marine mammals, fish, invertebrates, and microorganisms.... in the analogy to "anthro art," the furry form of logic would say "We like fish because they live in the ocean. Anything that's ever lived in the ocean is a fish."

Mind you, this definition and comparison are kind of subjective, and many furries would argue with it. So, I'm really going on my own views here. IMO, however, all that is furry is anthropomorphic, but all that is anthropomorphic is not necessarily furry.

With depictions of Ra, Anubis, Thoth, Vahaja, or Ganesha, the creators of the images were depicting their deities as dictated by their beliefs. The people sculpting the reliefs and painting the temple walls didn't think, "Hey.. you know what.. Anubis would look really cool as a jackal who could also take a human form... but.. but he still has his jackal head. Yeah.. that would rock!" Their faith, however it evolved, dictated that Anubis had a jackal form, and could also appear as a jackal-headed man.

Take another example.. Ganesha. In his depiction as an elephant-headed deity, he is anthropomorphic. But, he was not depicted as an elephant simply to be cool or because some fruit thought elephants were sexy. In Hindu lore, Ganesha was human at birth. In one legend, he was created by Parvati to stand guard and ensure her privacy as she bathed. Shiva, her husband, returned home to find his way blocked by an unknown guard. He decapitated the guard. When Parvati saw the body of this guard she had created.... effectively making Ganesha her child.... she demanded Shiva replace the head. He sent his servants out to find a suitable head to replace Ganesha's destroyed head. They returned with the head of the white elephant Airavat, which was placed on Ganesha's body, and he was restored.

So, Ganesha is anthropmorphic in that he combines human and animal features.... but, he was not "created" as an elephant-headed person just to be cool or cartoony or something. The Hindu legends and faith simply assert that that's what he is. So, I would contend that Ganesha is anthropomorphic by definition, but definitely not furry, and depictions of him are not "anthro art" in the modern sense.

So, anthropmorphics have been a visual and literary tool for ages. But, "anthro art" and furrydom have only cropped up since the cartoon era. Furries argue that anyone throughout time that may have thought Bast was a hottie, or thought Ganesha was better off with the head of an elephant was a furry, but, IMO, they would be so only in a very, very, very loose sense.. almost like suggesting Jules Verne was the first Trekkie.

Anthropomrophics and furry as concepts are not as interchangable as the furries would like to think.

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Well there is another similiar but differnt take on that that I learned recently in my Intro to Archaeology class (just an elective Im taking). The Olmec indians from I believe southwest Mexico. I didnt remember all of it from class so I just googled a bunch of this info just now. But I guess they were from 1800BC to 1AD ... that area. And they way my prof. was saying in class is that thier culture was obsessed with these half-human half-jaguar hybrid things. They were depicted everywhere. Statues, art. It was really integrated into their culture.

Anyway what archaeologists have found out is there is a common birth defect in that region and at that time (I cant remember the name of it) that causes babies to be born with an exposed spine and brain. They almost always die that Im aware of. Other very common features of the infants born with this defect is slanted eyes (that look somewhat cat-like) and they are usually born with a harelip also. Since the Jaguar was looked at as like a powerful spirit or a god - the people thought these children were the human-jaguar hybrid children of thier spirit animals.
or whatever.

Over all tho I agree with what you are saying ZenZhu - that the old stuff isnt "Anthro Art" - not even by a longshot.

However, depending on how - that sort of stuff could be marginally included. If there were furries out there that just want a running timeline of animal-anthropomophicism. Which it is.
I've run across a few furries that seem to be just Ancient egypt enthusiasts primarily. And they just interact with the fandom on a different level.

I dont really have anything to say about that , just pointing it out.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

Watching Stargåte and drawing assraping vore Anubises does justice to the GODS!

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Watching Stargåte and drawing assraping vore Anubises does justice to the GODS!

Do you think Anubis would be seriously pissed about that? Or would he be more laid back? like ", oh those crazy furries"

I mean, for a god he hasnt had any real following at all in over a thousand years probably.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Yeah people have been drawing human characteristics on animals forever. Who cares about the stuff inbetween because theres too much. Furry fandom originally formed around modern, contemporary cartoons - which was a great idea and filled a definite niche. If furry fandom was going to include appreciation for all animal anthropomorphism that would have been great but the fandom is too fucking stupid for that sort of intellectual base. There'd have to be a much stronger interest in anthropology and archaeology and culture ... and there isnt. There is however a big interest in type fucking and whatever else. Most furries dont even care about cartoon animals in contemporary or pop culture anymore. Its really only about themselves.

That's a damn good summary of what went wrong with furrydom.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

Yeah people have been drawing human characteristics on animals forever. Who cares about the stuff inbetween because theres too much. Furry fandom originally formed around modern, contemporary cartoons - which was a great idea and filled a definite niche. If furry fandom was going to include appreciation for all animal anthropomorphism that would have been great but the fandom is too fucking stupid for that sort of intellectual base. There'd have to be a much stronger interest in anthropology and archaeology and culture ... and there isnt. There is however a big interest in type fucking and whatever else. Most furries dont even care about cartoon animals in contemporary or pop culture anymore. Its really only about themselves.

That's a damn good summary of what went wrong with furrydom.

I agree with this statement.

Fins · Qualificator Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 26

It's fucking sad... literally.

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

Mouse pretty much hit the nail on the head with that one.

Furrydumb is 99.9% sex based. Art, roleplaying.. everything really.

Jerry Collins · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 335

Ahhh,dear children, I can remember when it was a fun genre...and there are times I wish I could forget it all!

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Mouse pretty much hit the nail on the head with that one.

Furrydumb is 99.9% sex based. Art, roleplaying.. everything really.

I just wanted to point out that what I meant - I think most people got it .... but I dont even think its just the whole 'sex' aspect at all. I run into more people are are just ... emptily - furries. with almost no connotations to that. Like almost as if it were just a blank social grouping. Like people will just be furried by any means nessecary. On the occassion Im in a furry IRC chat, its like Im talking to people about stuff that has nothing to do with furry fandom. I could do that anywhere.

It doesnt mean anything to them, and its hard for anyone else to figure it out either. They just hang around because they can. Either that or some other bizzare stuff

I think thats the main reason its all in a downward spiral.

The fact that you can just get away with some seriously outrageous shit in furry fandom only exasperated the problem.

Hydrostar101 · Apocrisiary Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 43

Fursuits are for lame people who can't get laid. utterly lame. Will fuckheads annoy, annoy annoy. I don't expect you to reply. I do know people read them no matter how much you say they don't. why did god even attempt to to spawn you people?

Genghis · Venter Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 277

Fursuits are for lame people who can't get laid.

OH NO HOW ARE WE GOING TO WEATHER THIS ASSAULT OF STATING THE FUCKING OBVIOUS

Hydrostar101 · Apocrisiary Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 43

Thats right bitch, feed into it. Your like A pawn in my fucking hand, so easly lead around. Point for me baby!!!!!!

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

uhh ... what ?

You come in here, flaming everyone for making fun of furry fandom (or whatever). Glorify furry porn... then shit talk fursuiters.

I have more respect for fursuiters than I do for you.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I just wanted to point out that what I meant - I think most people got it .... but I dont even think its just the whole 'sex' aspect at all. I run into more people are are just ... emptily - furries. with almost no connotations to that. Like almost as if it were just a blank social grouping. Like people will just be furried by any means nessecary. On the occassion Im in a furry IRC chat, its like Im talking to people about stuff that has nothing to do with furry fandom. I could do that anywhere.

It doesnt mean anything to them, and its hard for anyone else to figure it out either. They just hang around because they can. Either that or some other bizzare stuff

I think thats the main reason its all in a downward spiral.

The fact that you can just get away with some seriously outrageous shit in furry fandom only exasperated the problem.

I think this has become more prevalent in the past few years, largely due to the internet. It's quite easy to stumble across furry stuff online. I don't think I've ever done a Google image search that hasn't called up at least one picture from VCL. Plus, folks hear of it from SA and other sites. They join in with the other folks trashing it, then go check it out.. soon, they're on FurryMUCK fapping away with Doug Winger pictures in a slideshow in the background. Like I mentioned before, I think furry provides easy T&A to people who may not be able to or comfortable with accessing real porn. Like mouse has stated, it's more about what fringe benefits furry gives them than any real interest in anthro animals.

If you can ogle some tits on a semi-coherent vixen, but you can't get to porn sites to get your fap quota, one's just as good as the other. If you have no drawing ability of your own, you'll probably find someone else's stuff more fappable, since you can't just sit down and draw your own wank material. Now throw into the mix the fact that you can go on MUCKs or IRC or Furcadia and find people to wank with and you have a whole host of stuff that can interest any horny and semi-open-minded non-furry. The internet has this ability to make folks relax their stance on taboos they might hold to rigorously in real life. If some horny kid comes across a guy playing an okapi that likes to pee on people before he fucks 'em.. what does the kid care. It's not like he's getting peed on in real life.

Fetishes and fantasies are almost a kind of barter system in furry play online. Since there's already a huge element of suspension of disbelief, folks might be more accepting of someone's kinks, since it'll help ensure them a chance to beat off.

"You want me to dress like little orphan Annie and give you a blowjob? Sure... what the hell.. I'll try anything once." (Translation: If I cater to your little fetish, I'm guaranteed a chance to cybersex? Cha-ching!)

Maybe this is one place that has lead to the current state of furrydom... folks are so used to overlooking online what they would consider repugnant in the real world that, after overlooking enough online, they become desensitized enough that they become accepting of it offline, too. Then, they get accolades for being "enlightened" and "open-minded." I mean, hell... that probably explains a lot of the prison gayness in furrydom. The transition probably goes something like this.....

-Go online looking for cybersex

-Almost nothing online (for free, anyway) has much interaction with "women." Just a lot of beardy fat gay guys posing buttsex.

-Looking for chat, you come across furry MUCKs, IRC and Furcadia

-You sign up, get your characters, and start cruising the rooms looking for yiffs

-You find rooms with a lot of female characters. Being straight as an arrow, you chat some of the females up, but ask in whisper if they're male or female players. Some admit they're male, others say they're female. You give them a love-tap and, in their text, you conclude that this is most likely a guy typing.

-Trying to find female characters played by female players gets you cyberlaid.. oh.. once every leap year.

-Pretty soon, you convince yourself that it doesn't really matter what gender the player is.. it's just online play, right?

-You start getting banged semi-regularly once you relax your standards a bit and aren't so paranoid about beating off while cybersexing with a female played by a guy.

-You find that you can double your chances of getting a hump each night if you start teasing the guys, too. What the hell, we're all a little curious, right? You start by stripping down in the Nurple.. dancing around.. lookey, but no touchey, guys.

-Hey... you're pretty popular now. The guys sure seem to want you bad. Okay.. maybe a little touchey.....

-What the heck.. you're horny, he's horny... it won't hurt anything to give it a whirl. It's just 1s and 0s, anyway.

-Not too shabby... you got off, he got off.. everyone's happy.

-You go from 0 to slut in 5 days. Now you're not just a regular at the Nurple, you're a permanent fixture. You've got more yiff than you can count, and your dick is sore cuz you're beating more meat than a butcher with a tenderizing mallet.

-You hook up with a few guys that like "kinky" fun. Well, taking cock up the ass didn't hurt anything... it's just online... what'll it matter if the guy wants you to RP being his 5-year-old brother. Anything for an orgasm, right?

-A few more times of this, and you're playing a herm skunk in a french maid's outfit doing the watusi on some macro badger's cocktip. Congratulate yourself for your open-mindedness.

With the chances for cybersex increasing exponentially the more you're willing to tolerate weird crap, is it any wonder horny, lonely kids and young adults flock to furry zones and go Chester Ringtail overnight? Like mouse observed, with such promises, it's little wonder furry is attracting people who don't even care about anthro animals.. they just want the T&A pics and the cybersex. The interest in anthros becomes superficial.. like some kid wearing black clothing just because everyone else is. It seems kind of like:

"I'm a horny, angsty teen and I'm a rebel."

"What are you rebelling against?"

"What have you got?"

"Well, we have this group over here rebelling against.. really.. humanity in general. Puritanism. Fat cats. Washington. Christianity. They hate it all. In fact, they dislike it so much, they wish they weren't human. It all comes from a keen interest in cartoon animals."

"Cartoons are for kids. I'll watch DBZ, but that's it, man."

"Did I mention that you can get all of the cybersex you want, be as freaky as you like, and no one will think less of you for it? Oh, we have huge stashes of porn that aren't age-restricted, either."

"................... Sign me up."

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 218

Fursuits are for lame people who can't get laid. utterly lame. Will fuckheads annoy, annoy annoy. I don't expect you to reply. I do know people read them no matter how much you say they don't. why did god even attempt to to spawn you people?

Ok, I can't believe I'M saying this, but dude, you are really not helping your point of view if you're going to convey it in such a childish and uneducated way. Don't be such a (ooh, this is though to say) troll.

As for fursuits. Hell, I mavel at them from the artistic point of view. Anybody that can pretty much create a thought or something on paper and make it 3D impresses the heck out of me. I wish I had the skills and now how how to create such crafts, just for the pure artistic knowledge of knowing how to do it.

Everything doesn't have to be sexual. Heck some suiters work for childrens hospitials with the most innocent motives in the world, so let's not lump those folks with the true freaky element out there.

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

Fursuits are for lame people who can't get laid. utterly lame. Will fuckheads annoy, annoy annoy. I don't expect you to reply. I do know people read them no matter how much you say they don't. why did god even attempt to to spawn you people?

Ok, I can't believe I'M saying this, but dude, you are really not helping your point of view if you're going to convey it in such a childish and uneducated way. Don't be such a (ooh, this is though to say) troll.

As for fursuits. Hell, I mavel at them from the artistic point of view. Anybody that can pretty much create a thought or something on paper and make it 3D impresses the heck out of me. I wish I had the skills and now how how to create such crafts, just for the pure artistic knowledge of knowing how to do it.

Everything doesn't have to be sexual. Heck some suiters work for childrens hospitials with the most innocent motives in the world, so let's not lump those folks with the true freaky element out there.

When referred to as a "fursuiter" we use the term as a kind of enveloping term specifically to the furries that wear them for leisure, excluding mascots for example. (Except some of those jerks at Disneyland *shrug*)

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 218

Fursuits are for lame people who can't get laid. utterly lame. Will fuckheads annoy, annoy annoy. I don't expect you to reply. I do know people read them no matter how much you say they don't. why did god even attempt to to spawn you people?

Ok, I can't believe I'M saying this, but dude, you are really not helping your point of view if you're going to convey it in such a childish and uneducated way. Don't be such a (ooh, this is though to say) troll.

As for fursuits. Hell, I mavel at them from the artistic point of view. Anybody that can pretty much create a thought or something on paper and make it 3D impresses the heck out of me. I wish I had the skills and now how how to create such crafts, just for the pure artistic knowledge of knowing how to do it.

Everything doesn't have to be sexual. Heck some suiters work for childrens hospitials with the most innocent motives in the world, so let's not lump those folks with the true freaky element out there.

When referred to as a "fursuiter" we use the term as a kind of enveloping term specifically to the furries that wear them for leisure, excluding mascots for example. (Except some of those jerks at Disneyland *shrug*)

Could be worst. Could be clowns.

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me. Can't sleep, clown will eat me.

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

"I'm a horny, angsty teen and I'm a rebel."

"What are you rebelling against?"

"What have you got?"

"Well, we have this group over here rebelling against.. really.. humanity in general. Puritanism. Fat cats. Washington. Christianity. They hate it all. In fact, they dislike it so much, they wish they weren't human. It all comes from a keen interest in cartoon animals."

"Cartoons are for kids. I'll watch DBZ, but that's it, man."

"Did I mention that you can get all of the cybersex you want, be as freaky as you like, and no one will think less of you for it? Oh, we have huge stashes of porn that aren't age-restricted, either."

"................... Sign me up."

My God, he's cracked the secret behind the furry initiation.

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

My God, he's cracked the secret behind the furry initiation.

You will become one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us....

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

ok, so,
the furrism "yiff" is synonomys with the scifi term "rishathra"?

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

ok, so,
the furrism "yiff" is synonomys with the scifi term "rishathra"?

Rishathra

Sex between humans and other sentient humanoid species, as described in Larry Niven’s Ringworld novels The Ringworld Engineers and The Ringworld Throne.

No. This would suppose at least one human element. :wink:

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Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

ok, so,
the furrism "yiff" is synonomys with the scifi term "rishathra"?

Rishathra

Sex between humans and other sentient humanoid species, as described in Larry Niven’s Ringworld novels The Ringworld Engineers and The Ringworld Throne.

No. This would suppose at least one human element. :wink:

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Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

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Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

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LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

I don't know were you got that definition, rankin.
the original only requires humanods, most of what I have seen/read is jarjar/spock and such, nothing human involved.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Oh, meesa so hornies?

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Oh, meesa so hornies?

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 588

Oh, meesa so hornies?

Now I'm seeing and hearing Jar Jar doing a rendition of that Two Live Crew song. And I just ate dinner out with my wife. Ugh.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

I just had dinner with Way'd wife as well. She sure can eat her weight in Cheerios, I'll tell you that! :wink:

Yes, Wayd, I am picking on you again. I love how you (much as most others, don't get me wrong) have the ability to not just imply, but append needless information as though it might somehow provide favor, wether intentional or subconsious. You're married, we get it. Holy shit, women eat too? Who the fuck knew!?

I now return you to this worthless thread, already in progress... with your wife.

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 588

I just had dinner with Way'd wife as well. She sure can eat her weight in Cheerios, I'll tell you that! :wink:

Yes, Wayd, I am picking on you again. I love how you (much as most others, don't get me wrong) have the ability to not just imply, but append needless information as though it might somehow provide favor, wether intentional or subconsious. You're married, we get it. Holy shit, women eat too? Who the fuck knew!?

I now return you to this worthless thread, already in progress... with your wife.

I WAS out to dinner with my wife, like maybe eleven minutes before I read that post. Sorry if extraneous info bothers you. I could clip to Newspeak if you want. It has nothing to do with favor or anything else. Could just as easily have been my brother or my dad or my neighbor.

It has nothing to do with anything other than making a full and complete sentence. As in, "I went to the mall with my sister the other day and we saw..." or "I was sitting in my chair and fell over when I read that..." As opposed to going with Mother Theresa's ghost and Frylock or sitting on a chair instead of a cactus.

Sometimes you can nitpick over the most irrellevant things. :roll:

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Sometimes you can nitpick over the most irrellevant things. :roll:

My point was that you ALWAYS do this. You ensure people know exactly what you were doing, with whom, and why you're a better person for it. I really don't give a shit, but since you also had to mention your wife in your other reply this evening, you made me laugh.

I love you, Wayd - and your wife - whatever she's up to.

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

Wayd's wife also has big tits. Don't forget that.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Wayd's wife also has big tits. Don't forget that.

Fuck, man... she used to be a stripper!

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 588

Sometimes you can nitpick over the most irrellevant things. :roll:

My point was that you ALWAYS do this. You ensure people know exactly what you were doing, with whom, and why you're a better person for it. I really don't give a shit, but since you also had to mention your wife in your other reply this evening, you made me laugh.

I love you, Wayd - and your wife - whatever she's up to.

I would mention WHOEVER it was UNLESS it was YOU because people would immediately follow up with the question, "why haven't you strangled him yet?!"

It has nothing to do with making anyone think I'm a better person. Does Zen Zhu being married tweak you too?

Jeez, give it a rest. Go code something. You're way too bored and reading way too much into what I write. I'm getting seriously worried about you now.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

I would mention WHOEVER it was UNLESS it was YOU because people would immediately follow up with the question, "why haven't you strangled him yet?!"

OH NOS! AN IMPLIED INTARWEB THREAT ON MY PERSON! WHATEVER SHALL I DOOOOOOoooo?

It has nothing to do with making anyone think I'm a better person. Does Zen Zhu being married tweak you too?

Nah. Zen doesn't post about it in every thread and/or reply. It is merely part of him, not the definition of who he is. Now, if he posted about it in every thread, I'd probably be riding his ass like a Winger creation.

Jeez, give it a rest. Go code something. You're way too bored and reading way too much into what I write. I'm getting seriously worried about you now.

Thanks, but I don't feel like creating tonight. Do you? Does your wife? I do appreciate you looking out for me, however. I'm sure I'll be fine. At least, that's what the doctors tell me.

Cheers!

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 588

You know, Rankin, when my brother and his friend, with whom I grew up and so I knew what I was in for, well when they bragged who they slept with and how many and what they were drinking all that weekend at the beach... that was bragging. Five college chicks, two bottles of Jagermeister... Fine. How did I react? I shrugged and recounted MY OWN anecdotes.

INSECURE people take it as a threat as you're doing and make something out of it other than it is. Other married men I speak with have NO problem with me talking idle about my wife and I don't with them. It's just information changing hands during conversation. Their wife could be the fucking president of the local university and my response in my head is, "cool". AND THAT IS IT. Nothing more.

See, unlike some people with insecurity and low self esteem issues, I see my own life and what goes on in it as having no more or less intrinsic value than anyone else's and so if theirs seems a little cooler than mine, and I am in the homes of some very extraordinary people every day, it's fine by me. I say what I say, they say what they say, and it makes no difference to me or them. Because we're not threatened. We're just fucking talking.

Now, if you're threatened, I suggest getting some help. I doubly suggest it because your responses are the same as about three quarters of furries when I announced I was engaged and getting married. Pure insecurity, pure threat-defense response, inane accusations and twaddle.

Rankin, I could fucking care less what you write like or about. It could annoy the fuck out of me and I wouldn't go after you for it because there are far more important things in the world to give a shit about. Furries act like this. Furries nitpick based on this sort of thing.

Is CYD supposed to be a place that encourages its members to eat their own now? I swear, sometimes people go out of their way to make things so unfun. And I was feeling so good after I got the news of finally getting to be a dad after six damn years and ten thousand dollars of medical bills trying.

Whatever. :|

MagKnightX · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 312

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm so sorry you view me as insecure, Wayd, since you find posting ad-nauseum about your FAMILY with EVERY POST is not OBNOXIOUS or at all ANNOYING. Hell, let me be the first to shake your cock and declare you a good old boy. You're allright.

Anyhow...

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 473

I don't know were you got that definition, rankin.
the original only requires humanods, most of what I have seen/read is jarjar/spock and such, nothing human involved.

HOMINIDS not humanoids you dimwit.

OMGNOTANERD

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

What is that, some kind of Fraggle mating ritual?

Blowing-brains-out-icon a zillion times over for invoking Jar Jar speak in an adult fashion. I can now say I have accomplished my purpose for being born.

Of course, now I have this evil Jar Jar version of your typical porn dialogue bandying about my noggin.......

"Ooohh... ooh babies... yousa feel so goodnstuffs. Mmm, yeah, yousa be suckin' the babiesmaker so hotses. Yousa big slutses, don't yousa be? Yousa wants me to be spankin' your sitsybottom?"

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?"
"That would be the jackass doing porn in Jar Jar talk."

MagKnightX · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 312

What is that, some kind of Fraggle mating ritual?

Well, the name of the icon being gayfight.gif, that should give you an idea, as well as an idea of what I think of this stupid "I HAVE TEH BIGGAR PEENIS" crap going on between Rankin and Wayd.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

That truly is silly... since we all know DA has the biggest penis around.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

That truly is silly... since we all know DA has the biggest penis around.

Yeah, but Hirtes has the biggest balls.. well, no, his avatar does. :wink:

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

That truly is silly... since we all know DA has the biggest penis around.

Yeah, I model for Doug winger ;)

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

Yeah, I model for Doug winger ;)

Where else outside the wank-filled yiff forums would this joke be understood? Wait, don't answer that...

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

The surprise twist comes in that she's not packin' down below... she's sporting DICKNIPPLES!

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

That truly is silly... since we all know DA has the biggest penis around.

Yeah, I model for Doug winger ;)

The surprise twist comes in that she's not packin' down below... she's sporting DICKNIPPLES!

Oh baby! Next we'll find out she's a dominatrix!

WE ARE FLYING TOO CLOSE TO THE SUN ON OUR WINGS OF WAX.

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

I don't know were you got that definition, rankin.
the original only requires humanods, most of what I have seen/read is jarjar/spock and such, nothing human involved.

HOMINIDS not humanoids you dimwit.

OMGNOTANERD

ok,okay, so I paraphrased badly, is the general concept not similar?
or was "fur and loathing" horribly inaccurate as well as dull. (imho, one of the worst eps. in CSI history.)

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

I don't know were you got that definition, rankin.
the original only requires humanods, most of what I have seen/read is jarjar/spock and such, nothing human involved.

HOMINIDS not humanoids you dimwit.

OMGNOTANERD

ok,okay, so I paraphrased badly, is the general concept not similar?
or was "fur and loathing" horribly inaccurate as well as dull. (imho, one of the worst eps. in CSI history.)

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

ok,okay, so I paraphrased badly, is the general concept not similar? or was "fur and loathing" horribly inaccurate as well as dull. (imho, one of the worst eps. in CSI history.)

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

omgt3hpwned

Quantum Coyote · Venter Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 221

SquareSoft0 Wrote:

omgt3hpwned

t3hpwned indeed!

Jerry Collins · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jul 2003 Posts: 335

...my ..brain...hurtsss...(ugh,THUD)

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

}pardon the proto/neo -logy{

ok,I thin I am strting to get a picture of those who "walk on the wild side"

(perhaps a terrible description, your comments would be appreciated.)

so, there is furdom which started in the 1970's, and then there is the centuries old practice of anthormophism/ zoomorphism in art and literature.
which some wish to claim as the roots of furdom.
as a child of the moderd world, furdom has had to more quickly come to deal with it's hedonist and eudaemonic aspects. than other subcultures, this has led the world to have a rather distorted veiw.

that more or less sum it up?

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

than other subcultures, this has led the world to have a rather distorted veiw.

that more or less sum it up?

Other than the fact that the view isn't all that distorted. People are just into it as an outlet for their fetish - wether it be latex, pony play, gay sex, beastiality, et al - there's virtually nothing left of the initial 'Cartoons are Cool' basis.

But, yeah, that's probably the best summary I've seen that's shorter than a full paragraph. ;)

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

alright,I was suspecting something of the sort.

so "Furryism" does not really exist, exept as a group of concepts, defined by the following individuals:

Stalking cat

triggerTHEhorse

comet, the paintball playin' deer

the san diego chicken.

again, your comments are appreciated.

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

You are so very very wrong. "Furryism" does in fact exist and has plenty of overweight failure followers.

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

so my prior statement was off, that comes of expecting "the martini shot" and finding "fur and loathing"

but do those individuals, although perhaps not fuyrries themselves, have some of the characteristics of furrs?

(If I am mixing non-compatable terms, I apolgise, it's just online dictionaries are quite lacking in more specialised terms, like furrisms.)

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

ok, the process goes slowly, but I am figuring things out, words not to be used in polite(?) society. but still, the question was awnsered.

sort of, I still wonder wether ye beasties consider halloween a chance to let yourself out without social stigma, or a day for Wannabes to run amok.

Is there such a thing as a Furry Wannabe?

what about the lizard/whale/fish people, does "furry" include those individuals?

just more questions from the neophyte.

Dr. Dos · Venter Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 244

The whale people?

I've been missing out on something incredible horrible.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I don't know if there could really be "furry wannabes" since furries are wannabes. They wannabe cuddly, fluffy, noble, powerful animals instead of sacks of beardy flesh. Or, they just wannabe socially accepted, but are unwilling to find their niche in everyday society.. wanting, rather, to carry on as they please and be applauded for it.

"Furrydom" pretty much encompases all anthropmorphics based on animals. Fuzzies, lizards, cetaceans, fish, bugs.. whatever.. the folks into those can fall under "furry."

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

ok, so the deeper I go, the more I find "the martini shot "in error, at least for the average furr, if there is such a thing.

LSH · Qualificator Joined: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 32

this came to me recently: it took cross-dressers about 3000 years to get were they are today, how long will it take furries to get to the same point?

Not to imply there is anything more than a superficial similarity, like you could confuse the two anyways.

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

and to summerise again-anthros have been around forever, and furries originated from modern cartoons from around the start of the 1900s.

To anthropomorphise something, in dictionary terms, actually means to attribute human characteristics/features/anatomy to an animal/inatimate object/natural phenomenom.

So if you were to say, "THAT TORNADO'S A REAL BITCH, SHE'S SMASHING UP ALL THEM BUILDIN'S!" then you would be anthropomorphising a tornado.

But this place is about furries, which are cartoony pop-culture animals and only a small section of what anthro actually means.

If you have questions, you got it right, we're the ones with the answers and the knowledge....

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

.....I think I'm a bit behind in this thread though.

Oh well, we're not even up to Donny's predicted 10 pages yet.