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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/23/2004 6:48:53 AM
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http://kasencomics.com/index.php?p=tytuly&id_tytulu=18
http://www.squir.com/portfolio/40_easter%20bunny.jpg
http://www.squir.com/portfolio/149_kasen.jpg
http://www.squir.com/portfolio/129_womens_day2003.jpg
http://www.squir.com/portfolio/60_street_cat.jpg
http://www.squir.com/portfolio/132_valentine2004.jpg
He's a huge fan of Schwartz, too. And of squirells. Thing in question was supposed to be "a Polish manga" (yes, I know)... intead, there are "sexy" squirells and crying bunnies, and it goes as "manga". Well... at least he's not furry-gay.
I don't know how well it sold, but I don't think it was a smash hit. And if you're confused about the "Women' Day": it's an import from Russia, leftover after communism.
Also,
http://michio2.fm.interia.pl/not_easy.jpg |
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Anonymous
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Posted: 10/23/2004 8:19:17 AM
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I fail to see what makes this notworthy, at all.
And... http://michio2.fm.interia.pl/not_easy.jpg NO |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/23/2004 8:48:56 AM
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So, is it common for furries to try to sell their comics on a commercial market as "manga"? |
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Paul
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Posted: 10/23/2004 12:42:03 PM
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Well, manga being officially new and hot and best-selling in many Western countries, I guess it's currently a smart move, marketing-wise, to claim that your totally non-japanese comics are "manga" if you've twisted your style to remind a wee bit of the generic style often found in Japanese mainstream comics. I've seen a few comics professionals pull that trick. I think it's rather stupid - it's like imitating the drawing style of Hergé or Franquin and claiming you're making "American bande dessinée". Nothing wrong with liking and taking inspiration from a "foreign" style, but the word "manga" is being bastardized here.
Also,
http://michio2.fm.interia.pl/not_easy.jpg
Every furvert ought to see that picture. It's a damn good reason why having fur isn't sexy unless you're into scat. |
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Kadius
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Posted: 10/23/2004 1:14:38 PM
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Also,
http://michio2.fm.interia.pl/not_easy.jpg
Every furvert ought to see that picture. It's a damn good reason why having fur isn't sexy unless you're into scat.
Dingleberries really pump my nads.
Back on topic. You'd think that if someone was trying to sell 'manga', they'd atleast try to draw in the manga style. This stuff is just pinups.
I think I'll try selling rocks as 'highly specialized personal training weights'. |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/23/2004 2:10:15 PM
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I think you'd like to check out the other titles:
http://kasencomics.com/index.php?id_tytulu=15
http://kasencomics.com/index.php?id_tytulu=17
It's "manga", you know.
Also, a generic Evangelion ripoff:
http://kasencomics.com/index.php?id_tytulu=14
http://republika.pl/guardian_kasen/aker.jpg - character design! for a commercial comic!
So, don't forget Poland.
As for teh furries, Polish ones are just as funny/scary as everywhere else, I guess.
Laughable/pathetic, like Dr No:
http://free.of.pl/m/mweclawski/art/jungle01.jpg
or angsty-gay/sociopathic, like Aquilion:
http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/vcl/Artists/Thomas-Pruski/adult/Aqil%27s_X-mas_2002.JPG
The latter one had a furry prelection on a this year SF con (SF standing for sci-fi, not skunkfuckers). He appearently hates anime fans.
http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/vcl/Artists/Thomas-Pruski/THE_WAR.htm KILL ALL HY00MANZ! Teh story.
http://vcl.ctrl-c.liu.se/vcl/Artists/Thomas-Pruski/adult/vixen-tiger-bed.jpg ART! HOTT, too. |
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MagKnightX
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Posted: 10/23/2004 3:59:44 PM
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The guy in the first post isn't really a BAD artist, he's just made the mistake of drawing in THAT FUCKING MANGA STYLE THAT'S EVERYWHERE NOW. Oh, and doing furries. |
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weird_guy_in_the_corner
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Posted: 10/23/2004 4:11:09 PM
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The guy in the first post isn't really a BAD artist, he's just made the mistake of drawing in THAT FUCKING MANGA STYLE THAT'S EVERYWHERE NOW. Oh, and doing furries.
He also takes photographs of nature. It would be pretty cool if it weren't for the tons of shit I had to sift through to get to it. Also, he seems to have a raging hard-on for cars. |
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Rankin
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Posted: 10/23/2004 6:00:30 PM
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he seems to have a raging hard-on for cars.
Donny's Finnish. :?: |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/23/2004 8:00:24 PM
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The guy in the first post isn't really a BAD artist, he's just made the mistake of drawing in THAT FUCKING MANGA STYLE THAT'S EVERYWHERE NOW. Oh, and doing furries.
He's drawing pseudo-manga (and furry) for many years now. Thing is, there's nothing like "non-Japanese manga" or a "manga style" in existence. Manga is Japanese comic books, period.
And the Squir (self-insertion??) comic is just furry. |
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DA
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Posted: 10/23/2004 8:04:49 PM
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*sigh* When are most of these idiot 'comic artists' realise that no sane person would buy their craptastic rehashes, I was listening to one guy talk about his 'oh so powerful character' last night, who 'omg lacks parents because they were murdered in front of her when she was little by a demon who then raped her' oh yeah. Real original, most 'furry' comics are done to death. :roll: |
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Kooshmeister
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Posted: 10/23/2004 8:22:26 PM
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http://www.squir.com/portfolio/40_easter%20bunny.jpg
Similar to the almost-nothing-but-wolves-and-foxes trend amongst furries, it seems that 4 out of 5 anthro rabbits are always female. Where's the diversity...? I want you to draw male bunnies, you clods!!! And no more wolves and foxes!!!
On a side note, that streetwalker cat looks eerily like Callie Briggs from "Swat Kats," the single bitchiest and most annoying female I've ever seen in a cartoon. She must've turned to prostitution after she failed to get re-elected. |
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Skunkfuckers Inc.
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Posted: 10/23/2004 11:29:11 PM
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On a side note, that streetwalker cat looks eerily like Callie Briggs from "Swat Kats," the single bitchiest and most annoying female I've ever seen in a cartoon. She must've turned to prostitution after she failed to get re-elected.
Okay, we're about to have a fight here. Next thing you'll say Lt. Felina Feral was a butch dyke :evil: |
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Kooshmeister
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Not really. I just felt she was poorly introduced (she's just suddenly there), not to mention kind of unnecessary. But she was still a much better female character than Miss Briggs, who was, in essence, the epitome of the superhero fangirl; for one thing she was blind to any of the Swat Kats' multiple faults. |
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Paul
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Posted: 10/24/2004 12:04:59 AM
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I was listening to one guy talk about his 'oh so powerful character' last night, who 'omg lacks parents because they were murdered in front of her when she was little by a demon who then raped her' oh yeah. Real original, most 'furry' comics are done to death. :roll:
Ain't that the truth. Many furries seem to think that if they have their characters go through all manner of horrible things, then that character automatically gets a really DEEP and TRUE personality. Try reading Max Blackrabbit's ZigZag background story (if you can bear it); it's a prime example of that utterly defective mode of writing. |
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DA
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Posted: 10/24/2004 1:09:27 AM
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I was listening to one guy talk about his 'oh so powerful character' last night, who 'omg lacks parents because they were murdered in front of her when she was little by a demon who then raped her' oh yeah. Real original, most 'furry' comics are done to death. :roll:
Ain't that the truth. Many furries seem to think that if they have their characters go through all manner of horrible things, then that character automatically gets a really DEEP and TRUE personality. Try reading Max Blackrabbit's ZigZag background story (if you can bear it); it's a prime example of that utterly defective mode of writing.
I know, funnily enough some of my deepest characters haven't really suffered because I gave them a personality before torturing the poor things.
They just don't seem to understand character developement before backstory :roll:
Ick, written like a typical male...her abuse story makes me sick because it's so bloody cliched. |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/24/2004 12:57:36 PM
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Jesus Christ, I was loving SWAT Kats in late '90s!
I've been even waiting every day until 3 am just to see it on Cartoon Network, when my cable was switching from Country Music Television to CN for a few hours in the middle of a night :P
Playing on a Sony Playstation in a meantime... ah, memories ;) |
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MagKnightX
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Posted: 10/24/2004 3:30:13 PM
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SWAT Kats was good, I just had one problem. Do you have any idea how hard it is to fight crime with a fighter-jet, and NOT kill your target and the entire building?
Actually, weren't they vigilantes? They should have been busted by the FAA. They never filed a flight-plan, and they sure weren't emergency services. |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/24/2004 4:35:12 PM
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SWAT Kats was good, I just had one problem. Do you have any idea how hard it is to fight crime with a fighter-jet, and NOT kill your target and the entire building?
Actually, weren't they vigilantes? They should have been busted by the FAA. They never filed a flight-plan, and they sure weren't emergency services.
Well,
1. They had some non-lethal, non-destructive weapons.
2. There was still a lot of colleteral damage, AFAIR. |
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Kooshmeister
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Posted: 10/24/2004 7:28:43 PM
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SWAT Kats was good, I just had one problem. Do you have any idea how hard it is to fight crime with a fighter-jet, and NOT kill your target and the entire building?
It is, but they rarely did battle with mundane criminals. Their foes were always either giant monsters or supervillains with huge superweapons. And surprisingly, only a handful of the bad guys they faced ever had jets of their own...
And yes, they were vigilantes. Ex-Enforcers, to be exact, kicked out for mouthing off to Commander Feral.
And, in an effort to keep this thread at least somewhat on-topic, anyone else find it odd that Swat Kats hasn't been exploited by furries yet? I mean, it's a show where everyone's an anthro cat. Furry heaven, it sounds like to me, |
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Kadius
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Posted: 10/24/2004 7:34:41 PM
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And, in an effort to keep this thread at least somewhat on-topic, anyone else find it odd that Swat Kats hasn't been exploited by furries yet? I mean, it's a show where everyone's an anthro cat. Furry heaven, it sounds like to me, You shut your filthy mouth. They'll hear you. |
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Posted: 10/24/2004 8:01:59 PM
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It's such an old show of course it's been abducted ages ago! =)
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/SWATKats/Pics.html
http://www.furholt.net/panovich/listings.html
Work safe ... untill ya click on the pics. =) |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/24/2004 8:22:37 PM
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I've seen a (gay) SWAT Kats furry-fanart already in 1998... welcome to the Internet.
I guess there's much more.
Hey, these are pretty cool:
http://images.google.pl/images?hl=pl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&inlang=pl&q=+site:www.cattychism.com+swat+kats |
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Kooshmeister
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All I can say is, Chance/T-Bone didn't have stripes on his legs (we see him in shorts in the episode "The Ghost Pilot," and no stripes). Foolish furry artists.
I wouldn't mind that, though, if this person could actually, y'know, draw. The "Ultimate Torture" pic... it looks like his head's turned completely around! |
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Posted: 10/24/2004 8:43:19 PM
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I'd hope furries would be scared off by it. It wasn't comfortably faggy like Tiny Toons, and T-Bone and Razor were hardly Chip and Dale. They seemed like real guy guys, the type who if they flew over a furry convention would at least entertain the notion of bombing it to hell.
The whole thing had an edge to it, more like a comic book than a typical early 90's cartoon. The villains were genuinely evil, not the usual bumbling Disney heavies we're used to, and they were cooler than the factory rejects of most action cartoons of the time. And they'd kill, which was cool. Here and there some security guard or soldier would get turned into crystal or something, and there wasn't that scene at the end were everyone gets turned back and it's all okay. It's like, they got killed. Having your body converted into crystal makes you dead, and you can't be made all undead at the end of the episode. That was cool.
Plus the music pretty much rocked throughout, kicking it off every episode with Ted Nugent's Cat Scratch Fever for a show theme. Can you imagine the Motor City Madman with a hunting bow in a room full of furries? Bliss. |
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Gargoyle
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Posted: 10/24/2004 8:58:08 PM
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I remeber there were actually some massacres of civilians, too. Like this mutant eating a bus with people and stuff. |
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Kooshmeister
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The whole thing had an edge to it, more like a comic book than a typical early 90's cartoon. The villains were genuinely evil, not the usual bumbling Disney heavies we're used to, and they were cooler than the factory rejects of most action cartoons of the time. And they'd kill, which was cool. Here and there some security guard or soldier would get turned into crystal or something, and there wasn't that scene at the end were everyone gets turned back and it's all okay. It's like, they got killed. Having your body converted into crystal makes you dead, and you can't be made all undead at the end of the episode. That was cool.
I'll assume you mean "Chaos in Crystal?" That's one of my favorite episodes, and I know I'm asking for trouble for correcting you, but... I'm a nitpicker. Forgive me. Everyone who got turned to crystal by Rex Shard was returned to their former state, alive and well, after the Swat Kats reversed what he'd done using the rewired Gemkat 6000. The only casualty of that episode was Warden Meece, 'cause he fell over and shattered into hundreds of pieces.
Other than that though, I agree with everything you said about Swat Kats, pretty much.
I remeber there were actually some massacres of civilians, too. Like this mutant eating a bus with people and stuff.
It was a subway train, actually. Pretty high body count in that episode... |
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Plus the music pretty much rocked throughout, kicking it off every episode with Ted Nugent's Cat Scratch Fever for a show theme. Can you imagine the Motor City Madman with a hunting bow in a room full of furries? Bliss.
Those would make for some interesting trophies... at least, if he didn't tie them up and drag them out to the wild to get them thin and survivalist... that would just be boring.
Furrie-kebab. |
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Everyone who got turned to crystal by Rex Shard was returned to their former state, alive and well, after the Swat Kats reversed what he'd done using the rewired Gemkat 6000. The only casualty of that episode was Warden Meece, 'cause he fell over and shattered into hundreds of pieces.
Yeah, I remembered the guy getting shattered, but it's been awhile since I've seen an episode. Still, it's a credit to how menacing the bad guys were that they can be remembered that way.
*SNIP*
Nope. Had he got me on a point about the failure of socialism, or even just something like the history of Italian cuisine, I would have been pwned. As such you called an unfounded, premature pwning so I'm going to counter-pwn you and thus maintain superior pwnership of this thread.
U = not just PWNED, but PWNZZORD! |
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I'm sure you do, but your e-cunt is muuuuch bigger.
And what the fuck are you on about? You might want to keep the demonstrative pronouncements of your love for willy waving to yourself. You're scaring the crickets. |
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