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Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

I mean, really. At least female ones.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11080474/

They're not cosplaying. They're just... furry. While not particulary pretty, they're still not very ugly. In fact, I've seen a lot of fat anime fangirls, but I'm yet to meet a fat furry chick.

And from what I see on images, most of American furs tend to be a ham monsters. I think it's becouse of so many White Americans having a weight problems, and the American furries being overhelming White.

Or maybe I'm wrong? I don't know.

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

Hmm, you could've fit a few more stereotypes in there, C-

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 362

I mean, really. At least female ones.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11080474/

They're not cosplaying. They're just... furry. While not particulary pretty, they're still not very ugly. In fact, I've seen a lot of fat anime fangirls, but I'm yet to meet a fat furry chick.

And from what I see on images, most of American furs tend to be a ham monsters. I think it's becouse of so many White Americans having a weight problems, and the American furries being overhelming White.

Or maybe I'm wrong? I don't know.

Those are just anime fans cosplaying as catgirls. Hardly counts as "furry".

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

No, they weren't cosplaying (cosplaying - staging a mini-theatre scene for a competition). They were just walking around in a furry costumes ;)

I don't know if they were furries. Maybe it's a trend now. A lot of a girls on anime cons are wearing "gothic lolita" outfits, even if they're nothing like a "true goths".

I've seen only 2 (two) photos of a local male anime fans wearing cat ears, and even then one of these photos was made by me. One guy was fat, one was not. None was bearded or wearing these huge-ass glasses (or any glasses, for that matter). My photo is there: http://www.anime.com.pl/gallery.php?view=gvydaFxa (rather furry, but still better than what I see on America's furry cons' galleries).

And no, we got no strictly furry cons (I mean a "real" conventions). I heard there's just "Eurofurcon" or something like that, somewhere in the continent.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 362

No, they weren't cosplaying (cosplaying - staging a mini-theatre scene for a competition). They were just walking around in a furry costumes ;)

I don't know if they were furries. Maybe it's a trend now. A lot of a girls on anime cons are wearing "gothic lolita" outfits, even if they're nothing like a "true goths".

I've seen only 2 (two) photos of a local male anime fans wearing cat ears, and even then one of these photos was made by me. One guy was fat, one was not. None was bearded or wearing these huge-ass glasses (or any glasses, for that matter). My photo is there: http://www.anime.com.pl/gallery.php?view=gvydaFxa (rather furry, but still better than what I see on a furry cons' galleries).

And no, we got no strictly furry cons (I mean a "real" conventions). I heard there's just "Eurofurcon" or something like that, somewhere in the continent.

Ah, I see. A lot of people (and me) just say "cosplaying" to mean "walking around in costume".

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

No. It's (fur)suiting ;)

Seriously enough, on (ours) anime cons "costumeplay" is the event, a competition to play a short theatrical scene - while in the costume. You need a short play AND a costume to participate... And there's nothing like a furry "parades".

Sure, people can walk around in their costumes besides cosplay, but these were no cosplay costumes - and I don't recognise any characters looking like that, too.

I think they were either just a pair of furries who like both anime and fursuiting-lite, or a "new cool trend" to wear and act like a furry.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 362

No. It's (fur)suiting ;)

Seriously enough, on (ours) anime cons "costumeplay" is the event, a competition to play a short theatrical scene - while in the costume. You need a short play AND a costume to participate... And there's nothing like a furry "parades".

Sure, people can walk around in their costumes besides cosplay, but these were no cosplay costumes - and I don't recognise any characters looking like that, too.

I think they were either just a pair of furries who like both anime and fursuiting-lite, or a "new cool trend" to wear and act like a furry.

We've seen lots of pix of costumes like that and nobody ever thinks it's evidence of furryism. I didn't say they were meant to be a particular character - they're just meant to be generic catgirls.

Cosplay is a Japanese subculture centered on dressing as characters from manga, anime and video games, and, less commonly, live action television shows, movies or Japanese pop music bands.

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

Cosplay is a Japanese fan term for Costume Play; it's equivalent to the Western fan term Masquerade. In Japan cosplay covers pretty much the spread that convention masquerades in the West cover, from SF to fantasy, from medieval to military uniforms. It's basically a time for fans to dress up in their favourite garb or as their favourite character and have a bit of fun. There is a condition though; most fans insist that you not only play the character in dress, you also play the character's nature. In other words, whilst you're in costume, you must be the character, in thoughts, words and action.

Western cosplay has a slightly different meaning. In the US and in Europe cosplay is solely restricted to the costuming of Japanese characters, from anime, manga and gaming. The term is used by anime fans to distinguish it from other types of masquerade, much in the way that the word otaku is used by anime fans to describe themselves, whilst in Japan it covers all kind of obsessive fandom.

In addition, Western cosplayers aren't required to act their characters, at least not to the degree their Japanese cousins do. It's enough to dress up, or to go on stage and do a humourous skit. In this way cosplay masquerades are much like other Western masquerades. There is a movement though, coming from the US East Coast cons, that promotes the idea that convention masquerades should closely match the codes of conduct fostered by Japanese cosplay masquerades. Whether this thought prevails will be due to the conventions and the costumers- it will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years.

http://www.nyx.net/~wsantoso/cosptext.html

Shmeckopolis · Venter Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 234

I read the topic title, I see the first post, and all I can say is...

It's like comparing diharreah to solid turds; either way, they're both shit.

Quantum Coyote · Prattler Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 143

And from what I see on images, most of American furs tend to be a ham monsters. I think it's becouse of so many White Americans having a weight problems, and the American furries being overhelming White.

Or maybe I'm wrong? I don't know.

Well for one thing remember the concept of 'comfort food', carbos release serotonin and other feel-goods in the brain, so its like taking little doses of fast-acting prozac (or maybe even XTC), to give you that more-comfy I-belong feeling (even tho your standing alone in front of your fridge eating a big slab of chocolate cake at 2 am, ohyeah, and reminders of your furryness stuck all over the fridge door). Feed teh lonely

MagKnightX · Venter Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 286

Well, they're both not at all hot... and the one on the right is pretty horse-faced, but I'd hit the one on the left, assuming she's legal and disease-free... and I'm not expected to talk to her ever again.

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

Nobody said "hot".

All I meant, they're not like
http://www.cnipur.furtopia.org/C-ACE/IM000353.JPG
AMERICAN FURRIES ;)

Quantum Coyote · Prattler Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 143

(rather furry, but still better than what I see on America's furry cons' galleries).

And no, we got no strictly furry cons (I mean a "real" conventions). I heard there's just "Eurofurcon" or something like that, somewhere in the continent.

What, are you a bloody limey?
YO, where you FROM cuz?! <flashes gang signs>

viron · Rasophore Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 55

i go to anime cons on a regular basis, almost once per 2 months. cosplay means to dress up, that's it. there is no requirement to be in a costume that's part of an anime. 100s upon 100s of girls dress up in "catgirl" outfits at anime cons that have no link to anime, and lots of times they have no earthly clue what furry is. I can guarantee you these girls walking around an anime con would bring no red flag to their attention. "furry" wouldn't even be considered in the slightest. Catgirls are such a staple at anime cons, they are basically ignored.

Maybe I'm really old school, but since when have you not seen fat furry chicks? Last time I was at a furry con, admittedly it was a long time ago, the ONLY females in attendence were fat and/or ugly. Probably this newfangled internet making for an increased amount of females at furry cons are accounting for all these so-called un-fat furry females at cons you speak of?

Either way, there are still not many females or even people at furry cons as I recall, whereas anime cons are so mainstream that they are usually really crowded. Not only that, but anime cons are at least half, if not more, female attendance. I think you are seeing more fat chicks at anime cons because there are simply more women in general attending.

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

(rather furry, but still better than what I see on America's furry cons' galleries).

And no, we got no strictly furry cons (I mean a "real" conventions). I heard there's just "Eurofurcon" or something like that, somewhere in the continent.

What, are you a bloody limey?
YO, where you FROM cuz?! <flashes gang signs>

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pl.html

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

Maybe I'm really old school, but since when have you not seen fat furry chicks? Last time I was at a furry con (...)

I've never been to a furry con.

Only furry chicks I've ever seen (besides in Internet) were these 2 there, and now you're saying me they're "not furry" :)

"Cosplay" here is a theatrical skit competition with a costume. Costume alone is called "costume" :P

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Venter Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 254

Oh come on Gargu, we all know what you really want! Plenty of inexplicably furry hot beefcake stud, that's what it is innit?

Well, they're both not at all hot... and the one on the right is pretty horse-faced, but I'd hit the one on the left, assuming she's legal and disease-free... and I'm not expected to talk to her ever again.

I was thinking the other way around, though. The girl on the right could be hot in a geeky sort of way, but the one on the left looks slightly like a mexican shemale in the face area.

Of course if you show me seven different pictures of the same person I could show you seven different people, since the way they "look" in any given photo (taken at any given angle, lighting, time of day, mood, etc.) can be drastically different from another. I'll be nice and say I can only judge from that one photo, but from that one photo I can say I hope they at least have good personalities.

Now these girls are hot, and presumably genuine furries since this was taken at an American furcon. Draw your own conclusions, but they beat the Polish skanks you've presented hands down in my book.

Or maybe you might want to be touting the fact that Poland statistically has less furries in general? Seems like what I'd be doing.

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 466

And from what I see on images, most of American furs tend to be a ham monsters. I think it's becouse of so many White Americans having a weight problems, and the American furries being overhelming White.

You obviously know nothing of America. White Americans are fat? The hell is that? Lard-assity is a general American trait that crosses all racial and ethnic boundaries. We're all huge fucking hambeasts here, whether white, black, Asian, Hispanic, whatever. Suck on that, you ferrin person! USA! USA!

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

I guess almost all of a monstrously fat women featured at a sites like a Whale Watch, Fat Chicks in Party Hats, Cliif Yablonsky, etc, were in fact whites... and I've got a problem to imagine a really fat Asian girl :P

I just googled for a "fat asian":
http://images.google.pl/images?q=fat+asian&ie=ISO-8859-2&hl=pl
No fat Asians... just a furry dude on second page :)

And I don't think the "really hot American furries" are that "hot", too... especially the one on the left. One on the right's totally pedastrian, and both of them got this retarted/drugged/intoxicated look on their faces :)

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

They're FURRIES, when DON'T they have that look?
Are you blind? These Asian chicks are frickin huge!

I needn't get into the Polish stereotypes so I would stop now to minimalize my asshole-ness if I were you.

viron · Rasophore Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 55

"Cosplay" here is a theatrical skit competition with a costume. Costume alone is called "costume" :P

"cosplay" does indeed refer to the masquerade competition. But "cosplay" at anime cons, at least in the west, is also just another word for getting into any old costume. It can be used informally if need be - even if you get into a non-japanese, non-anime, or original costume and you just sit around in it without doing any skits - as long as you are at an anime con people will refer to you as a "cosplayer". I have never in my 25+ anime cons ever heard someone in any kind of costume at an anime con referred to as a 'costume' or 'costumer'. regardless of what it is, even a simple catgirl outfit, people still call them "cosplayers". IOW, The term is used far more loosely in the west. I've seen marvel and DC characters show up at anime cons and they are still referred to as "spiderman cosplay" or some such nonsense.

... btw, not harping on you or anything, just explaining the use of the term around this part of the world.

If anything, anime fandom latches onto anything cute and, for some godforsaken reason, anything to do with cats. Still don't understand that one. So i guess maybe even in europe that catgirls at anime cons wouldn't necessarily mean 'furry'. I'm not saying those girls aren't furries, i'm just saying there's no basis to think they are. If they were dressed like that at a non-anime convention, maybe you could say they might be furries with a little confidence.

MagKnightX · Venter Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 286

Well, calico cats are sacred or something in Japan... I think... but I thought that other cats were evil...

Hell, all cats are evil, but I love 'em anyway.

I think it was a mistake to say that on this forum. Let me rephrase that: I think cats are good animals, even though they are the earthly form of Lucifer. Or, you know... Lucifer-ina, or something.

Quantum Coyote · Prattler Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 143

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pl.html

Ah, so I see, right on

ZenZhu · Needs to get out more Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 897

While you don't see many large Japanese women, obesity is becoming a problem in China. It's not quite on the scale of what we have in the U.S., but it's growing closer. National Geographic recently did an article on obesity, and China was ranked in the same category as the U.S. Part of the factor in Japan is the large use of seafood and the prefernce for fresh-prepared foods without a lot of sauces and such in regular cooking. You'll notice that Japanese food, while incorporating sauces, doesn't use anything as heavily as what you typically see in Chinese dishes. Portion sizes haven't gotten as out of control in Japan, either.. whereas, in the U.S., portions on plates... especially when eating out.. can be 3 to 4 times larger than an individual portion. You know what the size of a meal at McDonald's was when it first opened... about what we call a "kid's meal" now. So, really, we should be eating something the size of the kid's meal when we go to a McD's or Burger King. This business of double quarter pounders (which folks apparently don't realize is a half pound of beef) with supersize fries is out of hand.

I'd honestly like to see American restaurants rope things in a bit. I mean, when you go to someplace like Outback, you can pay $18 for a 10 oz. steak.... when 6 oz. is the suggested serving size. I'd rather have a modest portion for a modest price than shell out BIG BUCKAROOS FER A SLAB O' BEEF TH' SIZE O' THEM THAR TEXAS! And restaurants.. if they took the initiative.. could help kick off better portion control. Most people don't know what 6 oz. of meat is.. (about the size of a deck of playing cards). If people could see a responsible portion of food when they eat out, it'd help them learn what amount to prepare at home.

Screw this Atkins-friendly meal or the "heart healthy" pasta plate the size of your head. Just give me regular food in responsible portions. It's like we now have these little packets of 100-calorie cookie crisps. Yet, this diet food never satisfies most people. So they eat 2 or 3 bags of it.. and they could have had all of the flavor and fewer calories just by eating one of whatever cookie it was.

Furries' size isn't just a product of being American and/or white. Trust me, there are demographics that have more weight issues than caucasians.. and, in fact, some sectors of the black and hispanic communities prefer grossly obese women.. just like skinny-ass rednecks do here in the Midwest. Seriously.. you see some bony little twirp with a twang and a Kyle Petty shirt and his wife is almost always some 400lb. behemoth. Furries' size is also a product of their pesonal habits. I mean, hell.. we're talking about people that hardly bathe. Do you think they really put more thought into their food choices? We're also talking about people that have predominantly low-income jobs. The sad paradox of American nutrition is that the crappy boxed dinners and such are cheaper than buying your own, fresh ingredients. My weekly grocery bill can attest to the expense of getting fresh meats, fruits and vegetables over canned beans and frozen dinners. Even so-called "Healthy Choice" dinners are laden with salt at the very least. And don't get me started on the cost of spices.

So, it's not solely that furries' weight are a product of American culture.. but a product of.. hmm... "geek culture."

Most of these guys and gals came from the side of the fence that was either insanely studious or simply absorbed in gaming, comics, etc. The other side of the fence was the "jocks"... and never the two did mingle. So, you have the people that eschewed physical activity as something done by only musclebound dunderheads. Of course, this is complete BS. Sure, your "typical" sports like baseball and football are characterized by guys with bulging biceps, dragging knuckles, and sloped foreheads... but other sports like soccer and martial arts are out there as well.

Another aspect is routine physical activity involves self-discipline.. which many furries lack. Time spent exercising is considered time away from more "worthwhile" pursuits like MUCKing, drawing and gaming. That's one reason it's important to find a sport or fitness activity you like... so that you'll enjoy doing it... not just begrudgingly take 30 minutes out of your schedule to do it. Every other day, I basically warp my martial arts to music for cardio kickboxing. Sure, on Mondays, it's hard to really want to do it.. but after 5 minutes, I'm in the zone, and it's just as fun as playing Playstation or something.

That's another reason you have the lard-assed freaks in furrydom..... it's easier to convince yourself you're trapped in your 350-lb. body and were meant to be born as a wolf than to enroll at the gym, take regular walks, or at least buy a copy of Tae-Bo. Furrdom is all about enabling someone to live by their delusions and excuses... be it for their fetish or their unhealthy lifestyle.

And let's not forget about those trademark HUGE thermal cups of Mt. Dew... those 48 or 56-oz. monsters that they have to refill on an hourly basis. Those probably pack.. what.. about 400 calories (allowing for some space taken up by ice) per cup? And then down several of those per day... on top of your meals... and you're drinking almost your entire target caloric intake alone.

So, it's not just that furries are a product of American culture that contributes to their characteristic weight, but other factors as well, including:
*Poor diet from limited income
*Poor diet from lack of discipline/poor choices (i.e., 2AM raids for 6 beef Mexi-Melts and a large Mt. Dew)
*Lack of exercise from lack of discipline
*Lack of exercise from lack of desire to exercise
*Lack of exercise from a derisive view on physical activity (i.e., it's for "jocks")
*Lack of exercise from delusions of being "trapped as a human"

Rankin · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 891

So, it's not just that furries are a product of American culture that contributes to their characteristic weight, but other factors as well, including:
*Poor diet from limited income
*Poor diet from lack of discipline/poor choices (i.e., 2AM raids for 6 beef Mexi-Melts and a large Mt. Dew)
*Lack of exercise from lack of discipline
*Lack of exercise from lack of desire to exercise

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BRAINNNNNNNN!

I represent most of those, but I am slowly getting myself back into shape - however, being quite depressed this weekend, I opted for 3 meximelts with extra cheese. So lonely.

ZenZhu · Needs to get out more Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 897

Well, I don't want to sound like Jack Lalane or anything. Having subjected myself to some of these as well (though nowhere near the tune of 350 lbs) in my past, I'm just coming from a position of having thought about these things as I learned to improve my own health. There are many things in our culture that are hard to fight. It's not intuitive to consider why you ran for 3 meximelts... but the fact that you did shows more insight into what it'll take to get fit than most Americans have.

I'm also convinced that were were done a disservice by the "kids are starving in China" speech... being raised to eat everything on the plate.. rather than listening to our stomachs tell us when we've had enough.

MagKnightX · Venter Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 286

Well, I must say, while I pay great attention to hygiene, I have not been so responsible with diet and exercise... and now weigh in at nearly 300 lbs (which isn't quite so bad as you think, I'm 6'3" and have a heavy bone and muscle structure, but I still am too damn fat). So while I cannot yet influence tides, I do unfortunately resemble furries in that aspect.

So, basically, I'm jogging every other day, and working out in a gym twice a week, but I still need to change my diet.

By the way, one of the BEST things you can do for your weight is to stop drinking regular soda or soda period. Think for a second... a can of Coke or Pepsi has 140 calories... a can of diet Coke or diet Pepsi has 0 calories listed (if it's under 5 calories, they are allowed to list it as 0, so it could be up to about 4.9). Of course, aspartame converts to phenylalanine in the blood which can, in some people (called phenylketonurics), convert to formaldehyde in the brain, which is a bad thing and the reason for the "phenylketonurics: contains phenylalanine" labels on most diet sodas.

It really doesn't taste that bad.

Rankin · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 891

Splenda, dammit. Diet Rite owns you.

I'm 6'2" and barely up to 200, but I want to get back to 170, if possible. Since I've started exercising again, it's a bit hard to gauge my weight - however, I don't want any jiggle. I'm a comfy 34 waist, but, eh... Still too big. :(

I saw 300, maybe a touch above before I gave up bingedrinking.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 307

Since this seems to be Measurement Monday on CYD, I'll throw mine in with you schmucks.

I'm about 170, 5'11". I'm trying to slim myself down a little, I guess. Walking and watching what I eat and the like.

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 817

I'm 6'2" and barely up to 200, but I want to get back to 170, if possible. Since I've started exercising again, it's a bit hard to gauge my weight - however, I don't want any jiggle. I'm a comfy 34 waist, but, eh... Still too big. :(

Im confused I don't see how you figure you are that fat or whatever with those sorts of numbers?

My weight flucuates wildly between 130 and 150 and Im 5'8". I live off of sugar, carbs, nicotine and alcohol and done it for years. Its not like I have a fast metabolism or get much exercise either. I wear 32 inch waist pants and those are baggy, but 30 is good fit for me. So I dont see how 34" pants is that bad.

wait, why are we talking about this ?

21st Century Digital Boy · Rasophore Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 60

5'7, ~130 lb
My diet is utter shit, but I walk about a mile over a hill almost every day, which helps keep my girlish figure.

And now: RANDOM OFF-TOPIC IMAGE TIME!

Rankin · Needs to get out more Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 891

wait, why are we talking about this ?

Carnal purposes.

The problem I have with my weight is I turned into a big lardass a few years ago, and my skin is effectively fucked. From when I grew six inches in three months, I've had stretchmarks on my thighs and shoulders. It really sucks, but I can't do much about that.

However, when I was fat, I started getting manboobies and unless I watch my weight, even being waterlogged makes me look horrible with my clothes off. :(

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

Same for me, but I've really shaped up as of late. 5'9/10" and 170-180lbs, depending on which liquor store I'm leaving.... I'm cliche... :cry:
I have alot of muscle mass, but I also have a gut that's been receding finally. Don't know HOW I got stretch marks on my stomach / thighs, don't WANT to know. :?

creature · Venter Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 221

I've seen worse cosplay. Just ARC (Anther Random Catgirl).

creature · Venter Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 221

Maybe I'm really old school, but since when have you not seen fat furry chicks? Last time I was at a furry con (...)

I've never been to a furry con.

Only furry chicks I've ever seen (besides in Internet) were these 2 there, and now you're saying me they're "not furry" :)

"Cosplay" here is a theatrical skit competition with a costume. Costume alone is called "costume" :P

You don't know much about cosplay do you? Cosplay has very little to do with the skit side of things, even in Japan. It's mostly picking a charactor you like and dressing as them for your enjoyment and to show off your skills at making costumes. That's it.

creature · Venter Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 221

Oh come on Gargu, we all know what you really want! Plenty of inexplicably furry hot beefcake stud, that's what it is innit?

I know that guy. He is pretty cool. Works for NASA in Cali.

Now these girls are hot, and presumably genuine furries since this was taken at an American furcon. Draw your own conclusions, but they beat the Polish skanks you've presented hands down in my book.

Hehe. The one of the left is married and the one of the right is 15, if I remember right.

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

No, it's costuming. Dressing as anime/game character. Cosplay is the event, a competition, usually at 6 pm first day of every con ;)

Example: "Hurry up and go to the theatre room, the cosplay will begin soon. "

What cosplay is in US and Japan, I copy/pasted already.

Oh, and we usually got 2 competitions in the cosplay: for a costume, and for a skit. If someone's dressed but not competing, it's "not for cosplay". Etc.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 310

Familiarity breeds contempt... but.... <=)

The Converter says 185 cm is 6,1ft ... annd.. 95kg is 209 pounds

Least 15 pounds more than 7 years ago..=)

BLÖRF!

Well.... Booze takes my mind off it! =)

Oh, and OMG ART TEHFT! That Skwrl's fur is red brown like mine!!!!

Anonymous · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 766

Oh, and OMG ART TEHFT! That Skwrl's fur is red brown like mine!!!!

OGM!!1 Donotsue got art theifed!1(eleventeen)!!1

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Venter Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 254

I know that guy. He is pretty cool. Works for NASA in Cali.

Hehe. The one of the left is married and the one of the right is 15, if I remember right.

So... you're saying I should either go for the Californian stud who works for NASA, or wait three years for the hot babe? Damn, that's a sexy decision.

Myself, I'm 6'1" and around 260 lbs, but when I tell people that they can't believe I weigh that much. I just don't look overweight, and when I was around 200 I had people tell me I looked skinny. Very odd.

Now, I'd like to divert everyones attention to this thread on VCL that cropped up the other day. Notice the My Little Pony avatar, read the posts. Now, near the bottom of that first post are a few links to real life pics of that person.

NOT what I was expecting.

BAliBASE · Rasophore Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 52

Now, I'd like to divert everyones attention to this thread on VCL that cropped up the other day. Notice the My Little Pony avatar, read the posts. Now, near the bottom of that first post are a few links to real life pics of that person.

NOT what I was expecting.

He now has two choices -- find a hot girlfriend and dump the pink pony avatars, or turn really really gay.

Arbitrary Plaid · Recusant Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 8

I'd honestly like to see American restaurants rope things in a bit.

If a restaurant took the initiative, they'd lose business. I've noticed a lot of people get upset when they get served small portions, regardless of price. Large portions automatically equal value, not money spent (with some thanks to supersized fast food options). Plus, not eating everything you're served is considered rude.

...sad paradox of American nutrition...

Agreed. While I believe that everyone's responsible for their own actions, the correlation between income and quality of food is becoming ridiculous to the point where some people don't have a choice as to what they eat. In this situation I'd support the US government addressing the matter in a useful fashion. The old "fat tax" idea for fast food and other unhealthy items is just ridiculous... let's help families eat healthy by raising the price of affordable foods without lowering the cost of healthy food! I would be all over an economically feasible way to lower the cost of fresh, healthier foods. Portion size may reign in prepared foods, but the overall grocery bill is still what matters in the supermarkets, and in the long run.

Uh oh, I finished a post and I didn't link to something. Quick! Link to a comic! It's a little on topic, I swear! And by little I mean I was considering 'socially responsible' as well as 'economically feasible'.

addition:

some pictures

Either those are pictures of someone on a dating site, or he has some issues. Pulling up his shirt to show off his chest to strangers on the internet, in order to prove that he must be awesome because he's ripped... it's not the most thought-out behavior.

ZenZhu · Needs to get out more Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 897

I don't mean for DRAWING it, I mean just for saying that you have a favorite artist who mainly draws anthro art. I met some friends of a friend from one of the largest message boards (www.shoryuken.com), and we hit it off rather well. Later, my friend, who has NO problem with anthro art, innocently told them about a few issues of Furrlough he read at my house, and a pic of Kyoht's that I was using as my desktop background, and OH, CRAP!! All of a sudden, all first impressions of me went out the window. Suddenly I'm a goat-raping freak who dresses in fursuits and humps other guys dressed likewise.

Ha ha... j00 l053 @ t3h 1nt3rw3b.

I had a great idea for x-mas gifts for my three nephews and one niece. I wanted to give them the greatest gift (in my mind) that i coudl give- i was going to draw up cute fursona's for each of them and give them as a gift.
I asked my sis in law abou is as i wanted reference pictures to work from (i wanted them doing their favorite things), and she came back with "well we discussed it, and we dont'w ant you to do that"
they pretty mcuh said they dont'w ant their children exposed to that. It hurt so much. They put it like they almost expected somethign outrageous and pornographic. It still hurts, i was lookign so forward to doing it- it was a labor of love...but they turned it down like i was goign to scar their children for life...

Y'know, even if I knew someone wasn't going to draw yiff pictures of my cousins or whatever (don't have any kids of my own at present).. I'd still find the notion a little creepy. Maybe it's because I know creating a furry avatar or whatever is really kind of a personal thing.... but the concept of someone sitting down to really scrutinize my kids or something to determine what animal to draw them as and how to draw them..... that's just kind of creepy.

It's not the same, IMO, as having someone take a photograph or paint a portrait. At least then you are depicting the people as they are. But, to do this whole "fursona" thing... to try and peg someone, especially kids, into an anthropomorphic pidgeonhole and do up these images as something they're not... it trips the Spidey-sense. At least if he was going to draw them as spacemen or something.. it would be themselves.. just in a fanciful setting. Even if the guy means it innocently enough, I can see how the parents would find it a bit unsettling.

They pretty much admitted that i'ma freak for beign a furr. its almost like saying to a gay man "its fine that your gay, just dont' act like that aroudn the children"
So, mine hurt- it was my family telling me they weren't okay with what i've based my life around. Something that makes me happy in a life that needs that.
I still don't know hwo i'll look them in the eye at christmas time. It hurts to have them treat me like that....like what i love is wrong.

It's not exactly surprising that, if this person "bases their life" around furries, his relatives would find it creepy. That's something furries continue to fail to realize... it's not really the interest in anthros that people find odd... it's the extreme interest in them. It's not existence of furries that creeps people out so much as the behavior of the furries.

He walks in while I'm watching tv while defragging my pc with Gideon's Montana and Kyaama (I LOVE furry art dealing with large muscles, IE: Gideon, Ken Sample, etc) in e: as the screensaver, watched for 12 minutes, and commented "You have some...funny animal people art here. The colors are GREAT!" I blanch visibly, as he'd seen pretty much every adult image on the cd by this time. He just smiled and walked out, and never brought it up again. A shock, but no problem.

I call dumbass on this guy for having his furry porn scroll across the screen at a time when his parents had a good chance of seeing it. I mean, really... just wait until they're freaking asleep. Sheesh... when I had a porn stash... before you could really get everything you needed online... you practically had to go into the freaking Batcave to find it.... tilt the head on a statue, a bookcase flips around, go down the staires... enter the Pornocave. (Okay, really, it was a false compartment in my filing cabinet.)

I feel for you Rhio, and it really brings to light the human condition, in my opinion.
Personally, I believe people dwell within their little worlds. Their intrests are first and anything that benefits them is good for them, of course.
That being said, people tend to rankle when confronted by things that don't exactly mesh with their little world. That makes them scared, and if you get enough scared people together, that makes them hate.

Here we go again... the convenient claim of "they just hate you cuz they don't understand you." It continues to baffle me how these obsessive.. and I don't mean the hobbyists... I mean obsessive... furries don't understand how their obsession with anthros is what sets people off. We're not talking about "Goodness gracious me, look at that chap wearing a fake tail and kitty ears. Now there's something you don't see every day. Say, Martha, get a picture of me with the kitty chap!".... we're talking about, "Dude.. stop telling me about how you like wolf anus and give me my receipt."

It's the old "I'm not the one with the problem.. YOU'RE the one with the problem" bait and switch.

And really, if a guy that looks like that can't get people to talk to him and is afraid of violence at an arcade... you now something isn't right. You know it's not his looks turning people off, but his personality. I seriously doubt it's a case where he was threatened with mob violence because he bought a My Little Pony doll. More like "Shut up or I'll kick your ass" for talking about horsecock or something. And all of this talk of banning.... SomethingAwful is the only place I know of that might do anything arbitrarily just because you're a furry. Other than that, if you're getting banned from forums and stuff, chances are you're earning it.

Gargoyle · Coadjutor Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 91

Wow. This guy has a My Little Pony as avatar, and says Cloud is "girly"?

Clod is goddamn awesome. Not gay.

BAliBASE · Rasophore Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 52

Wow. This guy has a My Little Pony as avatar, and says Cloud is "girly"?

Clod is goddamn awesome. Not gay.

I knew a couple of girls in high school that wrote and drew yaoi (one drew fan art, one wrote fan fiction). Yaoi is gay porn stuff in Japan. It was some scary stuff, and there was, indeed, Cloud involved in it, along with a plethora of other anime and video game characters. They ruined about as many characters for me as furries.

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 462

pre-emptive strike before this thread gets any worse