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Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

Anthropomorphism is generally defined as giving human characteristics to animals. Now this seems all fine and dandy, but looking at most of the 'furries', it becomes clear that these are not animals with human charcteristics, these are humans with animal characteristics.

A simple diffrence in wording? Perhaps, but with the later wording, it takes on a very diffrent meaning.

Take Sabrina (for example), if you look at her proportions, the way she acts, her manerims etc, she is basically a human with the fur, tail and facial features of a skunk. She doesent act like a skunk, and really she acts like a human in a fursuit, except in her case the fur and tail are 'real'.

One of the quotes in the opening page is 'furry is an tiny animal fetish trying to act like it's something else' (or something simular). This really does have me thinking, could it be that the whole attraction that people have with these animal people is little more then an animal fetish?

Could it be that the fur/tail/facial features are all just fetishes?

I mean, if you really wanted to create an animal person, woulden't it make more sence to make their proportions etc a little more like an animal and give them behavioral characteristics of an animal (at least some of them). Simply giving a human fur, a tail and animal facial factures really doesen't make them an animal person, if anything it's just a person with some animal parts grafted on.

Given this, I do find myself understanding why people see furry as little more then a fetish that is trying to be something it's not.

This does pose a question; if the furries did admit that most of the fandom (I say most as there are furries that enjoy the anthropomorhic form but don't see any sexual about it, they see it as an art form, but nothing more then that) is really nothing more then a huge fetish that is really little diffrent then a foot fetish or any of the other fetishes out there and admited that finding an attraction to a person with fur and a tail is not normal and maybe said something like
'yea, I know that me finding this woman with the fur and tail of a skunk sexy is messed up, but I can't control that turns me on. So, I might as well go with the flow and stop resisting it and accept the way I am'

But then (as they say) kept the sexual stuff in the bedroom and private and didn't force their preference on others then would people stop being so hard on furries.

My understanding of it is that, it's not the furry art (even the XXX rated stuff) that makes people look down on them or even how it in many ways it's no diffrent from a fetish.

It's how they act as if it's all spiritual (some of it does have spirutal connecttions but, well a skunk with 6 DD sized breasts playing with herself doesen't exactly qualify) and there is no fetish involved. I get the idea what if furries would just admit that a lot of it is fetish materal and stop pretending it isn't that people would probably leave them alone or at least, stop being so strong in their critism of them.

mouse · Coadjutor Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 662

thats great

but what about everything else

anthropomorphic stories / storytelling
hard to clasify that as some sort of fetish

unless you wanna start classifying ALL interests or preferences as fetishes

what if a piece of art is devoid of sexual connotation ?

the problem is all the regular (furry) comics and art is getting thrown in with all the other fetish/spiritual/whatever bullshit

percentages found within dont even matter

problem is, i see this line of reasoning CONSTANTLY, and only applied to furry

i see alot fetishes and fetish-like behaviour IN furry, i fail to see how furry ITSELF qualifies as a "fetish"

and furry for one reason or another is ALWAYS gonna get hassled, doesnt matter who you are what you are, what you do or whatever
look no further than Portal-of-Evil
where ive seen furries go on there, try to play along, try to be friendly , and no one will give them an inch

the fucked up aspects of furry that came about, probably permanently stained it's reputation

people like being pricks, and feel better stepping on others, and thats all there is to it

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

:oops: been a while eh.

Hmm wathes the whole thing.
There are some topic's where I got the feeling of, gosh the creations arn't real, it's al fake.
It's the people who do this to there creations you hate.
Am I quit right about this?
I don't think you hate sabrina or Minerva, there fake, there not real, you can't sleep eat talk with them!
It's the creator who do such horrible things to them! Those should be stoped.
A furry should get there rights, specially when there copyrights.
My creations are not getting abused, good thing
Though I have a discrase, The New meat will know that I work for Pregfur, I hope no one has anything against Pregfur?
To me it's something like a releasing stress thingie, because i'm not able to have childeren. I draw a lot of pregnantie, curently working on a serie.
You can yell at me as much as you like, call me an raper, whatever...
If you listen to my story you cry even more then I do.

Oh well
how you all doing... Been a while eh...

mouse · Coadjutor Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 662

:oops: been a while eh.

Hmm wathes the whole thing.
There are some topic's where I got the feeling of, gosh the creations arn't real, it's al fake.
It's the people who do this to there creations you hate.
Am I quit right about this?
I don't think you hate sabrina or Minerva, there fake, there not real, you can't sleep eat talk with them!
It's the creator who do such horrible things to them! Those should be stoped.
A furry should get there rights, specially when there copyrights.
My creations are not getting abused, good thing
Though I have a discrase, The New meat will know that I work for Pregfur, I hope no one has anything against Pregfur?
To me it's something like a releasing stress thingie, because i'm not able to have childeren. I draw a lot of pregnantie, curently working on a serie.
You can yell at me as much as you like, call me an raper, whatever...
If you listen to my story you cry even more then I do.

Oh well
how you all doing... Been a while eh...

i was actually just wondering if you were still around

i personally dont really hate anyone

all the stuff in furry that pisses me off , is the intangibles

the stuff that 90% of people freak out about when talking about furry ..i could really care less about (fursuits plushies, etc, other than the fact that this maybe has grown to more than just a fringe element...its hard to quantify this sort of thing)

like i always am considering WHY is an artist drawing this, and then maybe even more importantly who is looking at it and why

its the reason i feel that cartoon porn of copyrighted characters is FUNNY - everywhere BUT FURRY (furries are not the only ones who do this - not by a long shot, and its usually done for satire)...because to furries usually its super serious and supposed to be erotic- and thats just ..uh creepy

i used to read a lot of that NC-17 slash fiction on fanfiction and to me it was hilarious...i kind of find it hard to believe that people could take that seriously..i am definatly talking about he authors too
(also i kind of think this way from the fact that me and my friends in high school used to always viciously make fun of stuff we liked..bands, movies, whatever)

the reason i , and a lot of people dont have a problem with comics like genus, is that its comedy - and its blatantly obvious thats the purpose of it 75% of the time (people dont like it either cuz thats not thier "cup of tea" or more than likely because its considered a "furry comic" and they dont want to have anything to do with furries)

i dont look at pregfurs so i have no idea what it is, i saw the link off your page...the fact that some people probably have a "thing" for that is really the only problem i might have with it

but no i dont really consider the idea itself to be in poor taste at all
definatly not for the reason your doing it, and definatly not if people just aestetically like the art

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

*reads*
yeah I understand, lot's of people who draw on pregfur are pregnant woman themself, I'm one of the wierdos. I don't draw sexual stuff. there's only one exeption, a request by the boss himself, a serie from concieving till labor. I did one sexual pic, but I don't think there's anything hot on it, Besides was a challenge, and my life is allready so bad, I figured to try something else. AND IT's between furries. It's kind of a story that happen I'm afraid in real life. having a boyfriend, getting pregnant, and he abondons you. in this story there's a happy ending.
but it most of the time in Real life. it's not.

To me drawing pregies (I really don't draw pregies all the time, cept when I'm down) is some sort of relieving

I sound bad, but maybe it's better I explane it, I no longer can hide it.
I had sexual contact in force with someone when I was 16 and got pregnant of him. I didn't saw a future with him, I had a miscarage. it was 6 weeks old. I never went to the docter,and never told to anyone.
Recently my boyfriend and I want to have kids one day, but since he's from a difrent country like Belgium -> Malaysia, the docter said to check up our bodies and getting vacins...
The doc found out that my birthroom was depressed, and I told the docter the whole story, with the bad news. I can't have childeren. I have chance to get pregnant but with 90 percent another miscarege.
it hurts for me, I love childeren, that's why I draw pregies, It eases the pain a bit, but somethimes it hurts me even more.
never knowing how wonderful it should feel for a woman to carry a child of the man she loves. It depresses me.

But this has nothing to do with sexual abused furries, but if someone thinks at the moment I'm a freak! :!: My poor explentation is up thereî

Do you think there should be rights for furries?
Woudn't that be a great idea to protect them in that way?
Like
there's this site with ZIGZAG
that one really discust me, it's even worse then schwartz art. it's overreacted specially the story behind it. I admit zigzag is beautiful created and wellfound, but the way of her dresses, nails, ...
*shiver*

Mitch · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 290

Like
there's this site with ZIGZAG
that one really discust me, it's even worse then schwartz art. it's overreacted specially the story behind it. I admit zigzag is beautiful created and wellfound, but the way of her dresses, nails, ...
*shiver*

Hmm? Which site is that?

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

fan site of zigzag, max black rabit's homesite,
you can join a zigzag comunity full with porn art of zigzag, or difrent furries
:evil:

Mitch · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 290

Oh hey, I forgot to say, did you get my email? It was just to pass on best wishes from Jerry.

Anonymous · Coadjutor Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 767

I didn't got it I'm afraid, O.O