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Its all about breaking taboos
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SpineDrinker
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Posted: 9/29/2003 1:22:13 PM
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Ok, here is the final answer to the yiff thing, and im going to explains it like a pretensous snob who(m) acts like he has a PhD in phycology or sumtim.
You see, this whole, furry festish if you will, is really very simple. People, ive noticed, have a general "fvck you buddy!" attitude tword life, or the world in general see? And one of the most bestest ways to express this by breaking the taboo.
You see, its like this: some angsty person drew a Disney charactor, where Disney is the symbololgy of wholesomness, all naked like and realised something like this: "Heh, stupid wholesome disney fvckers, i'll show them... hey wait, this is kinda hot."
You see, basicly all he had was a normal female anaotmy, but added a super cute animal head and a tail. You see, 'cept for the head and tail, its just a naked girl, but most likly draw to the most extreme of astetic of expetations.
Thats right, its all about astetics. These cartoons (like other sexual cartoons, you know like Mrs Roger Rabit) have the degree of good-lookyness possible. Usually things like "leathel measurements," thats a torso that has no room organs and the like. And the head, ill tell you something, i aint never seen no animal head like the one you see those furry pics. They got sexy human hair, and large effeminate eyes, and all the rest of the things that human male all hot and botherd
So in closing, basically yiff is just standerd sexually exaggerated porn. The only un-normal, unhuman even, thing here is the head and tail, but like said earlier, those are just done all super sexy-like too. I aint never seen no sexy skunk head before, but i must say, zigzag has got it goin' on!
note: for anyone who thinks REAL animals are fvckable, they are mental ill, and no amount of help can save them. |
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Anonymous
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Posted: 10/1/2003 5:46:12 AM
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mouse
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Posted: 10/1/2003 7:24:34 AM
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yes, but shock value wears thin pretty quick
you wouldve seen a surge of this, then it would have just fizzled out
i keep finding myself saying that intent is important
if furry porn was there for the purpose of being outrageous and shocking and totally tasteless it wouldnt be a big deal..ill go further and say that it would be as mainstream as stuff like that can get...if not just for being "new"
i think way too many furries got fucked up about it and gave themselves some sort of sexual complex over it - probably due to lack of strength of character or willpower
who knows
but for what you are specifically refering to: genus is like that , its cartoon porn - just x-rated humor far as i can tell , doesnt take itself too seriously
but the more i think about it ...all in all
i really dont like porn
ive come to the conclusion that what i REALLY like (as far as art prints and individual images) is cute pinups and "sexy" stuff
clothed or where they are "naked" but still have the genital-less/non-explicit funny animal look
for ex. kazalehs funny-animals, collin's bambioids, and some of timothy fay's (disney-esque?) stuff that ive seen
at risk of losing face or sounding weird ill say that i really do find these characters aesthetically pleasing to look at (the examples above)
but XXX stuff....cmon
i can see buying a FEW things like this (i have)
but its hard as to apply aesthetic affection for cartoon characters to outright pornography
for people to have mountains of this shit and look at it all the time is ridiculous
its probabaly not healthy either
anthropomorphic animal characters have this innate ability to distort reality in people (or bring it into clearer focus)
in fact, its why i defend thier use so much
its also why it aggrevates me to no end that the fandom that conveined to appreciate these things , pisses them and thier reputation away with countless fetish spooge pictures and fucked up behaviour |
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SpineDrinker
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Posted: 10/1/2003 4:35:34 PM
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I agree, the, um, senseual stuff is kinda kinda cool to look at, cus of its astetic value. But hard core porn is ugly. Zigzag face shots are nasty, and scary, all at the same time even; but here in a bed of roses, american beauty style is nice, -pleasing to the eye and all that. IMO she could use just a bit of a breast reduction, uh, you know she must have back problems or something. But yeah, spooge does make the furry culture pretty shameful. I mean, normal hardcore with humans isnt looked on in a very good light, now just add animals, and your really asking for cultural backlash, or something. I donno.
Acceptablity! there's the freaking word i was looking for. Another word that might fit somewhere in here is obscene. Those terms are all legal like, and stuff. |
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mouse
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Posted: 10/2/2003 6:16:58 AM
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ya know i think i have seen maybe one picture of zigzag and i think it was kind of a fan art err not fan art
zig-zagged "its still a skunks ass!"
mitch linked to it before
but i just think the idea of zebra-striped skunk character is a pretty cool concept
(uh that is what she is right? a skunk with all kinds of stripes?)
its too bad her story is that shes a porn star
err its too bad that her story of being a porn star isnt at least handled differently
in an "omaha"-esque or "hepcats" fashion
(uh she is a porn star right? a zebra striped skunk just getting spooged over?)
im assuming its some sort clumsy attempt at erotic humor is the type of stories shes in ? |
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Wayd Wolf
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Posted: 10/6/2003 1:47:05 AM
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Furry porn isn't the problem. Obsession with it to the exclusion of actual sex is.
None of the furry porn is remotely like animals as opposed to people who have animal SFX on them. It's porn like any other with tails and ears.
I myself wouldn't mind having a Skunkworks hardcore scene transferred to tile mosaic in my foyer just to mess with people, but then I enjoy that sort of thing.
What is a problem is when people who are already introverts without a social clue become wrapped up in wrapping their wanker with furry porn. It becomes a permanent crutch for a problem that only gets worse and never better.
Where else but furry can you find so many people so obsessed with sex, yet by their actions so solidly predetermined not to get much if any? Where else but furry can you find so many supposed bisexuals who've not boinked either gender? Nowhere outside of Hot Topic and you'd have to take the cumulative total of every freaking store.
Yiffing is mostly talk. But then there's the room orgies I've wandered past, doors wide open, and people known for a fact to be under 18 getting it going... But then, in furry, popping the middle finger to societal rules is enshrined as a tradition so things like Cub Central and underage boffing are totally cool with furry.
It makes you bleed from the ears if you think too much about it. |
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Michael Hirtes
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Posted: 10/6/2003 5:48:07 AM
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I myself wouldn't mind having a Skunkworks hardcore scene transferred to tile mosaic in my foyer just to mess with people, but then I enjoy that sort of thing.
Heh heh Heh. You haven't seen Steve Martin's shower stall, have you?
From a screencap I shot on video back at Steve's place in Summer 1994 when Steve was in another part of the house. He took a bunch of blank tiles, airbrushed "The Shower Goddess" onto them using ceramic paints, fired them in a kiln, and put them up on his shower wall.
Try hard NOT to think about the fact that he stands naked in front of this image and lathers himself up with slippery soap.
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Wayd Wolf
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Posted: 10/6/2003 4:32:24 PM
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Try hard NOT to think about the fact that he stands naked in front of this image and lathers himself up with slippery soap.
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Holy freaking crap, don't suggest images like that!!!
I just want the mosaic to mess with people. Like the pile of real human skulls I'm turning into a tabletop fountain with a placard reading "former employees and other annoyances". But lather with the skunkgirls image? Nah, I save sex for the bedroom or anywhere else the wife gets frisky.
BTW, we're about this far(holds fingers close together) from having kids now. The doc visit went well and he liked the ultrasound results so the meds are working to get the whole fertility thing going. |
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The New Meat
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Posted: 10/7/2003 7:09:43 AM
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A pile of skulls, now that's quite amusing. How are you making that?
I find that collecting taxidermy is an good way to weird people out.
But lather with the skunkgirls image?
That's a skunk? I figured it was either a cow or an armadillo.
BTW, we're about this far(holds fingers close together) from having kids now. The doc visit went well and he liked the ultrasound results so the meds are working to get the whole fertility thing going.
Oh. Okay. I think I missed something here. Congratulations, though. |
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mouse
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Posted: 10/7/2003 7:40:40 AM
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A pile of skulls, now that's quite amusing. How are you making that?
I find that collecting taxidermy is an good way to weird people out.
what?? and "accidentally" leaving pornographic furry fanzines on the coffee table aint ??
That's a skunk? I figured it was either a cow or an armadillo.
i thought it looks like a deer a female deer
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Try hard NOT to think about the fact that he stands naked in front of this image and lathers himself up with slippery soap.
heres another guy i guess its a good thing i dont know them..this statement has no effect on me
so i actually CANT think about it
thank god |
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Computolio
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Posted: 10/7/2003 11:50:31 PM
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Heh heh Heh. You haven't seen Steve Martin's shower stall, have you?
From a screencap I shot on video back at Steve's place in Summer 1994 when Steve was in another part of the house. He took a bunch of blank tiles, airbrushed "The Shower Goddess" onto them using ceramic paints, fired them in a kiln, and put them up on his shower wall.
This picture tells me that now is time to the coffee-spitting, God-cursing and LAUGHING LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER. HOLY SHIT.
Try hard NOT to think about the fact that he stands naked in front of this image and lathers himself up with slippery soap.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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Wayd Wolf
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Posted: 10/8/2003 2:28:46 AM
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A pile of skulls, now that's quite amusing. How are you making that?
I'm buying them online. You can get skulls for anatomy work still. I want them for the art. I am considering some knuckle bones for a necklace to wear during employee reviews.
I find that collecting taxidermy is an good way to weird people out.
But lather with the skunkgirls image?
That's a skunk? I figured it was either a cow or an armadillo.
I was referring to my own desire for a mosaic on my foyer floor. I have no desire for it to be in the shower. No one in my house seems to understand the concept of cleaning mildew from grout so I take an abrasive cleanser to it every month and well, the tiles don't really shine anymore, but they get clean.
BTW, we're about this far(holds fingers close together) from having kids now. The doc visit went well and he liked the ultrasound results so the meds are working to get the whole fertility thing going.
Oh. Okay. I think I missed something here. Congratulations, though.
Thanks. It was a segue off the bit about the wife. I'm just totally shocked at how quick it all got rolling after two years of the docs putting us through office visits and talk. So I noted it in happiness. |
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