Neutering Comment and Reply

Just thought I'd pass this along. Neutering.org actually generates much more positive replies than negative, amazingly enough... people are refreshed at the alternate view.


Nancy,

Thanks for your comments.

Many of those cancers you mention won't show up in neutered animals beacuse those parts have been hacked out. Humans get these problems too but humans don't sexually mutilate themselves as a preventative measure. Why, because, neutering once the disease has been detected can be used as an emergency solution... these cancers are rarely malignant and rarely spread from the affected organs. For mammary and prostate cancer I have shown preventative treatments... if you aren't too squeamish to perform them. Have you had yourself spayed to prevent all these very unlikely diseases in yourself... if not, how irresponsible of you.

My site does not seek to tell people that neutering is wrong for the irresponsible "pet" owner who just wants a servile plaything to show off and treat as a surrogate child to coo over. My website says that neutering is wrong for those of us who will take the time, make the effort, and assume the responsibility to be a true companion to our non-human friends and see to their needs as a whole being, as Nature intended them to be. Unlike most of humanity that relies on technology to cut and snip at things they don't understand because they think it makes life easier for themselves... and in the end only makes of our world a polluted greed-riddled hell.

My website is also a countermeasure to those who think every non-human that moves should be neutered and continually seek to subvert those of us who with to live natural lives, unmodified by human vanity and carelessness. My site makes the point that those of us who do not wish to butcher the gonads from our friends are responsible, nay, we are far more responsible because we choose to take care of the whole animal and not just what the butcher left out for us. We don't subscribe to the generation of unwanted pets any more than you do. We just work a lot harder to subvert it... because we don't force our friends to pay with their flesh... we pay with our involvement in thier lives.

You definitely need to think about other beings being what they were born to be and not just an easy solution to a problem and some pop-culture slogans spewed forth by game show hosts meant to guide mindless multitudes incapable of independent thought. Some of us are more capable than others.

Take care.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy"
To: <ebon@neutering.org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:10 AM
Subject: Neutering.Org Contact: Your web site

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> Rating: -poor
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> Name: Nancy
> E-Mail: blakwatr@bellsouth.net
> Website: Not entered
> Subject: Your web site
> Message:
> I found it hard to read you web page. At first I actually thought it was
some sort of joke.
> Do you actually believe the thoughts and information on your site?
Spaying and neutering are the respondible pet owners duty. So many dogs and
cats (not to mention smaller pets) are killed every year in shelters.
> I also find it hillarious that you quote \"Murphy\'s Law\". That is a
reliable source....NOT
> You neglected to mention the health risk of unaltered dogs and cats.
> Cancer of the cervix increases
> Cancer of the testicals
> Pyro of the utereus
> Cancer of the mammary glad increases
> Cancer of the prostate increases
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> You definelty need to re-think your philosphy
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*Ebon pads along silently for a long while lost in thought... images of the past float through his mind... then images of Aiya and what could be. Suddenly he stops and sits facing Aiya with his powerful haunches relaxed and somewhat spread... He wants her to see his gender... his heart is thrilled that she might know the urges stirring in his heart and between his thighs. Ebon's sheath is tight and there is pinkness glinting from it's opening. He gazes warmly toward the strong, beautiful bitch before him*

I was, for three Sols, the beta Dog of my pack. Well respected... well loved... the future alpha there was no doubt. My father was quite young when I was whelped... for I was elder son of his and mother's first brood. For three winters I challenged my father for mating right, but alas, he was a strong Wolf... with a couple years of experience behind paw and fang I had yet to overcome.

In short... last winter put a doubt in my heart that would ever overcome him... a doubt that I would even be a contender this winter, for one of my younger brothers was very agile and strong, and had nearly taken away my bata rank on a couple occasions. I didn't want to loose what I wanted most in my life... the feel of a bitch between my thighs and the lead of my own pack. I became impatient and filled with tension... anxieties... pictures in my mind that made me whimper under Luna's light. There is a kind of lonliness in being bata male few understand. So sometime last summer, while hunting, I wandered... and kept wandering... seeking my dream.

This land looks good, Bitch. I've not scented a mark in quite some while and there looks to be much prey-sign around. I have a part of my dream underpaw just now... I'm going to mark this land as my territory... and hope I am dog enough to defend it.

*gazes into Aiya's eyes through intense, yet somehow dreaming gold orbs, his pupils narrowing as amber flames consume them*

Would you care to be the Bitch that makes this Wolf's dream complete, Aiya?
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject:
Aiya sits before him and listens to his story, nodding occasionally. She allows her eyes travel over him...over his muscular shoulders, his broad chest, his powerful looking legs...then she stops. Her eyes rest upon his gender with interest...noticing the tip of pink that seemed to glisten in the sun. Her nostrals flare, scenting a hint of desire from him as her tail behinds to thump in the snow. Yes...he's very strong indeed...he would make the perfect...

The bitch returns her warm gaze to Ebon as he poses his question to her. Eyes widening slightly, she thinks quickly...had he chosen her? She knew the land was perfect already...filled with prey and perfect for a pack someday. And there was no question that this Dog would be able to defend his new land...and she vowed silently to help. Nobody would take that which was his...not if she could help it.

The wolfess finds her loyality and drive building quickly. After another moment of thinking, Aiya walks to him and lowers her head to his sex, sniffing at it lightly and licking gently...tasting what she wanted...what she was claiming silently as hers. Raising her head, she looks into his eyes...her gaze filled with warmth and respect for him "I would be proud...to be yours Ebon."

She nuzzles and licks under his muzzle, showing her respect for him. Slowly, she walks under his chin, rubbing her form against his and brushing her tail against his muzzle...allowing him to get close to her for a moment. She suddenly feels her heart leap with joy and jumps in front of him, tail wagging madly in excitement and playbowing. She wanted to romp with him...have fun for the first time in a long while...she wanted to be with him in so many ways...
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject:
*sighs* This is not an old attitude or 'sport.' People have never changed... they never will untill they're all fucking dead.
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject:
*growls and bristles, having nothing constructive to say* ..... Is it too much, too low, to drop to their level and torture them back?
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
Jocarra, I don't think it would be too low. Just do something "constructive" with the torture, like feed them their own testicles. That way you get your revenge and help the rest of the world by throwing a little chlorine in their gene pool.
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:22 am Post subject:
*bristles and growls* Like some of the others...i'll keep my remarks to myself...
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:29 am Post subject:
Thunder wrote:
Jocarra, I don't think it would be too low. Just do something "constructive" with the torture, like feed them their own testicles. That way you get your revenge and help the rest of the world by throwing a little chlorine in their gene pool.


Hahaha... *snarls wickedly*
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*feels ill...too sick to the stomach to be truly angry yet*
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject:
That's kind of sickening... actually makes me queasy...
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Actually... I'm guilty of torturing an animal and taking pleasure from it. It happened a long time ago, and I have not indulged myself since - that is why subjects like these touch me particularly deep. I know what it was like from the other side, but I also see the cruelty and grotesque nature behind it. I swear, it was almost like in the movies, when a guy kills another, and then looks in horror at his blood-covered hands... I never did it again.
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Ebon bought it and I recieved access to his locked forums. Unfortunately he's starting to suspect something is up, because I just can't stoop low enough to agree to everything he says.

Actually... I'm guilty of torturing an animal and taking pleasure from it.

*bristles and growls*
Hahaha... *snarls wickedly*
*growls and bristles, having nothing constructive to say*

You do know Ebon is going to go on a witch hunt now, right? Good work though, I guess. Just shines more light on how pathetic and insane he is.

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Ebon visits the forum nearly every hour!

Some wolf he is. Shouldn't he be outside sinking his teeth into small fluffy animals and drinking their blood? I post in two forums. I think I visit CYD twice a day and the other about once a week. So that leads me to believe Ebon's life depends/revolves on his forums.

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Kimmaugh wouldn't last 2 minutes on the forums. Ebon visits the forum nearly every hour!

Ebon visits the forum nearly every hour!

Some wolf he is. Shouldn't he be outside sinking his teeth into small fluffy animals and drinking their blood? I post in two forums. I think I visit CYD twice a day and the other about once a week. So that leads me to believe Ebon's life depends/revolves on his forums.

If you remember back to when he graced us hy00mans with his presence, he claims to have tried that for a while... but his frail little human body forced him back to the world of Mt. Dew and online role playing and air conditioning... much to his chagrin, I'm sure.

Also, correct me if I am wrong - Otherkin are mainly people who believe they are dragons or elves or some other fantasy-based creature \. As opposed to weres (theriopes or whatever the fuck they call themselves) and furries.

Ebonlupus claims that he started following the "Path of the Wolf" at 37. Only four years ago.

So for his mid-life crisis he decided to be a wolf instead of buying a sports car?

Well, it's certainly cheaper to retreat to the Internet and start weaving delusions, than it is to buy a sports car...

I'm still trying to figure out how things like Ebonlupus can be real. There is no way someone can be the crazy, right? NO WAY! NO SIR NO SIR NO SIR NO. It's like dividing by zero.
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skullfucking a dead human along with some stupid poetry

skullfucking a dead human along with some stupid poetry

You're fucking kidding me. Ebonlupus is the most mind-numbingly stupid, most misguidedly self-righteous furry I've ever seen. How the hell does someone so contradictory even fucking exist?

Does Eboner here even really qualify as a furry? He's just... so much WORSE.

He qualifies, and indeed a prime example of how fucked up they really can be.

He qualifies.

Beige wolf, good question. The whole premis of this picture is that the human wanted to be killed and eaten by the Wolves. He was sacrificing himself to them and found their attention arousing. The sensation of them tearing into his flesh excited him and as he died had an orgasm. The drawing is postured at the moment after this event.

Oh, it's old.

Beige wolf, good question. The whole premis of this picture is that the human wanted to be killed and eaten by the Wolves. He was sacrificing himself to them and found their attention arousing. The sensation of them tearing into his flesh excited him and as he died had an orgasm. The drawing is postured at the moment after this event.

A FUCKING PICTURE

FUCKING POETRY ABOUT IT

Clinical lycanthropy is a psychiatric syndrome that involves a delusional belief that the affected person is, or has, transformed into an animal. It is named after the mythical condition of lycanthropy, a supernatural affliction in which people are said to physically shapeshift, usually transforming into a werewolf .

It is not directly connected to therianthropy, a spiritual belief.

Symptoms

Affected individuals report a delusional belief that they have transformed, or are in the process of transforming into another animal. It has been linked with the altered states of mind that accompany psychosis (the reality-bending mental state that typically involves delusions and hallucinations) with the transformation only seeming to happen in the mind and behaviour of the affected person.

A study1 on lycanthropy from the McLean Hospital reported on a series of cases and proposed some diagnostic criteria by which lycanthropy could be recognised:

*A patient reports in a moment of clarity or looking back he sometimes feels as an animal or has felt like one.

*A patient behaves in a manner that resembles animal behaviour, for example crying, grumbling or creeping.

According to these criteria, either a delusional belief in current or past transformation, or behaviour that suggests a person thinks of themselves as transformed, is considered evidence of clinical lycanthropy. The authors go on to note that although the condition seems to be an expression of psychosis there is no specific diagnosis of mental or neurological illness associated with its behavioural consequences.

Proposed mechanisms

Clinical lycanthropy is a rare condition and is largely considered to be an idiosyncratic expression of a psychotic-episode caused by another condition such schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or clinical depression.

Surgical operations on the nervous system are done by specialist neurosurgeons.

From: olf (Mon Jun 7 21:01:20 2004)
I would have a raging leaking boner if wolves attacked me, too!

In a HUGE leap of armchair psychology, I'd also dare say that that suggests he puts himself in the role of the victim.

A FUCKING PICTURE

The whole premis of this picture is that the human wanted to be killed and eaten by the Wolves. He was sacrificing himself to them and found their attention arousing. The sensation of them tearing into his flesh excited him and as he died had an orgasm. The drawing is postured at the moment after this event.

How amusing. I honestly don't think I've ever heard of anyone being able to orgasm even if they WANTED to while they were being eaten alive. If you have the talent to draw so realistically, why don't you actually put it to use and draw something realistic in manner as well? As the disclaimer states, wolves don't skull-fuck or eat humans. So why draw such a thing? Or do you want to be eaten by a wolf too? (No pun intended)

Bucko, Being eaten by a Wolf would be an honor.

I tend to think that all of that is just smoke and mirrors he is using to cope with whatever feelings he has that makes him want to find orgasmic bliss in becoming food for wolves. The whole "I'm a wolf spirit and better than humans" thing gets pushed so much that it sounds like he continues to try and convince himself moreso than those around him. Everything he shows of himself leads me to feel like he would like to believe he is in the role of the wolves, but actually believes he deserves to be in the role of the human victim in that picture.... which would make sense if the culprit is clinical depression.

Anyway, my vote is he's not an enlightened wolf spirit.. just a poor schmoe in need of some Zoloft.

And the really funny thing is...You can't get an erection if you're eaten alive since you lose blood too quickly, erections upon death like that are only associated with something like hanging not with massive blood loss. :roll:

And the really funny thing is...You can't get an erection if you're eaten alive since you lose blood too quickly, erections upon death like that are only associated with something like hanging not with massive blood loss. :roll:

You know too goddamn much for your own good, english.

I mourn for the innocent electrons sensely wasted in this exercise of boredom.

We need to see the return of CF for real material.