Two personal faves:

'Lim Bim' for 'Bin Laden'

and

'MAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA' for (presumably) 'Muahahahahaha!'.

Well, Kimmaugh and Gonterman are a fanatical Republicans, too :)

Who are Gene Catlow and Karno?

Yeh, hessa okay guy! Plans to get married soon with a yankee gal and move to canada.. since US is too ... Bushy!

Karno aside...

although I do wonder why Gene Catlowe seems to be a posh French chef type.

Karno aside...

Word. Those who claim to be democrats are usually just whiny because they don't have every fucking liberty ever thought of... and complain incessantly due to a fe wpolicies they might not agree with - thanks to IRC keeping them up to date...

Word.

"Word?"

Mouse said "True that"...

Hip hop lingo is creeping in...

What is causing this?

Never mind. I'm bored. I probably don't want to know,

Well, Kimmaugh and Gonterman are a fanatical Republicans, too :)

Who are Gene Catlow and Karno?

No knowledge of Catlow.

Karno, according to a female fur I know, is supposed to be hung like one of those porn freaks with a two foot salami. She said she flashed him and a bulge in his pants leg nearly caused his leg to go up involuntarily. Thankfully, he's not made himself obtrusive in the fandom over this and keeps to himself a lot more than some others in the fandom who merely act like giant dicks.

He also draws furry stuff of some kind.

Well, Kimmaugh and Gonterman are a fanatical Republicans, too :)

Who are Gene Catlow and Karno?

No knowledge of Catlow.

Karno, according to a female fur I know, is supposed to be hung like one of those porn freaks with a two foot salami. She said she flashed him and a bulge in his pants leg nearly caused his leg to go up involuntarily. Thankfully, he's not made himself obtrusive in the fandom over this and keeps to himself a lot more than some others in the fandom who merely act like giant dicks.

He also draws furry stuff of some kind.

What's the deal with people giving Catlow grief anyway? I've never seen or heard of him doing anything out of the norm that would warrant it. And like or don't like his comic, you gotta at least give him credit for being consistant on it and he does put a lot of work into it.

I gotta tell you guys, you have no idea how much time doing something lhat looks like a comic book page can take, epecially inked and toned. And he obviously is writing for himself about what he wants to write about and out side of his comic, I don't think he's had much public appearances in years.

And if what WW says is true, then God blessed him big and Catwhisker's is indeed a lucky woman.

Catlow is rather preachy and annoying, mostly. He used to be staunchily christian and anti-porn until he discovered the joys of premarital sex with CatsWhisker, then he started drawing tons of (bad) softcore. Have you ever read his comic? It's even more incomprehensible than "Jack" except it's "cutesy" and even more packed with clique injokes and such garbage.

Yeah, but is it really preachy or is it just the way he's chosen to write his comic that you don't like. My favortie line is, if you don't like something,then don't view it because it's not for you.

I've never seen Catlow voice anything outside of his own website and really the content of the comic isn't really preachy out side of the context of the universe he's created in his story.

Least I don't get any kind of, I'm being sermonized to, when I've read it, but then I guess my connection with furry stuff isn't as strong as others might be either.

My opinion is, too many people on the internet seek out stuff that's going to personally offend them for the purposes of complaining about it publically. Rarely do I find something that offends me on the net that I wasn't actually looking for to be done so. I mean, if you don't like Jack or Catlaw, or whatever it's called, then well, don't go to the website to read it.

At present, I'm playing Rygar for PS2. The storyline and dialogue are about as campy as the appropriately comparable movie, Clash of the Titans. About half of what I do in playing the game is mock the corny dialogue.

And, of course, now is the time of year for carols and songs that are just begging to be ripped off.

Gene points out that "CatsWhisker is his mate" about as often as Wayd points out his wife has large breasts.

Gene points out that "CatsWhisker is his mate" about as often as Wayd points out his wife has large breasts.

No, not nearly as much as you here at CYD do. For the billionth fucking time, and you need to pay attention and listen because some of you are starting to appear as dense and oblivious and ignorant as furries, I mention it because big boobs are a mass culture plus point in selecting females, furry guys will complain to anyone who listens that they are alone and have no girlfriend and wish they did, and I wish to point out that if you want A, you must do B to get it. IOW, open up, grow up, and connect.

Pointing out the big tits is like pointing out that you're driving a Cadillac Escalade rather than talk nebulously of some indistinct SUV. Big tits gets notice of the sort, "wow, someone in furry actually has a decent looking woman." As opposed to leaving the visceral selling points out which isn't as effective as creating insecure envy.

If you leave the points out, they assume some small mousy flat chested goth chick with no personality more intense than any other angsty Lydia Deetz sans Beetlejuice. Saying she has a winning personality is like saying she has a face that has sunk a thousand ships.

But it very rarely produces the necessary follow-up, "I bet I could become really functional and mature and meet someone pretty too." I could have married Angel Kelly and not gotten that response more often.

The point is to get those who are insecure about their own status to out themselves publicly by criticizing me about how often I mention that I am married or that I have a knockout wife. If someone else mentions they have A, B, or C or can do or have done A, B, or C my response is either nothing because I don't care, or questioning to learn how it was done or can be done so I can get there too. Insecure people immediately whine about the other person bragging. It's not bragging if you can or have done it is what I was taught.

(For instance, in customer premises wiring, mentioning that you have done four set multisat installs in one hour flat including code compliant ground will point out which of your fellow workers are on a path to failure because they will assume they can't, they can't accept you can, and you get, "you're bragging". Those destined for success will ask how to speed up the work to do that. Those who are successful will nod, and try to claim they beat your time by five minutes. Soon you're daring each other in competition to outdo each other.)

Of course, leave it to people geeky enough to endlessly debate about Sonic the Hedgehog to not grasp that blindingly obvious fact.

I meant furries. Not the people of CYD of course. No, not the fellow CYD people. Never. :roll:

Holy shit you need to chill out. I didn't even read past the first sentence.

Holy shit you need to chill out. I didn't even read past the first sentence.

Bobby also has big tits. :wink:

I mention it because big boobs are a mass culture plus point in selecting females

Pointing out the big tits is like pointing out that you're driving a Cadillac Escalade rather than talk nebulously of some indistinct SUV.

Big tits gets notice of the sort, "wow, someone in furry actually has a decent looking woman."

If you leave the points out, they assume some small mousy flat chested goth chick with no personality more intense than any other angsty Lydia Deetz sans Beetlejuice. Saying she has a winning personality is like saying she has a face that has sunk a thousand ships.

The point is to get those who are insecure about their own status to out themselves publicly by criticizing me about how often I mention that I am married or that I have a knockout wife. If someone else mentions they have A, B, or C or can do or have done A, B, or C my response is either nothing because I don't care, or questioning to learn how it was done or can be done so I can get there too. Insecure people immediately whine about the other person bragging. It's not bragging if you can or have done it is what I was taught.

stuff

As I said.. I don't even know what a Cadillac Escalade looks like.

If you leave the points out, they assume some small mousy flat chested goth chick with no personality more intense than any other angsty Lydia Deetz sans Beetlejuice.

stuff

You may as well be George Bush reciting a pro-Iraq war speech at a Kerry rally you know

SHOW US YOUR (WIVES') TITS

Smart stuff

Smart Stuff We've Never Ever read on the Intraweb before.

Well, I don't really read Catlow's strip for that reason - I don't like it. To be frank I think it's garbage, but hey. Read 20 strips and you quickly get a very strong sermonizing message of "treat everybody as equals" and "the bad guys always get theirs" which smacks of material aimed towards small children. Of course, Catlow is quick to constantly show off his relationship with CatsWhisker by constantly shoving it in the face of anyone who reads the strip or pays attention to his art, by including her in the storyline, which is vaguely cute for about 3 panels before it becomes quickly tiresome. Gene points out that "CatsWhisker is his mate" about as often as Wayd points out his wife has large breasts.

To top it all off, the strip (what I have read of it) has a humans vs. furries storyline where evil corporate humans are the antagonists. Could it get any more syruppy? Could it get any worse? I didn't think so until Jack made a cameo to give an evil human character who had died "justice", at which point I closed the browser and attempted to douse the pain by drinking liquid toilet bowl cleaner.

And - of course we seek out this stuff. We like to poke fun at furry fandom and things within it, including ourselves at times. It's no fun to just close the window and keep your thoughts on what you looked at to yourself - people who like the strip are expected to tell their friends about it, so logically people who DON'T like it should be expected to do the same. Also, how would I know I don't like the comic without having gone to the site to read it?

Positive experiences don't always equal fun, and negtive experiences don't always equal not fun. Seeking out terrible comics and sharing one's opinion of them isn't too much different than other forms of subjecting yourself to negative stimuli for entertainment. Roller coasters terrify people in a fun way. Horror movies do the same. If people didn't find some entertainment value in mocking that which is campy to most.. but taken seriously by others, MST3K would have never existed, let alone gained the following it had.

Of course, you don't have to actively seek out bad comics to be familiar with them. It's like when surving VCL for rare gems of furry art, you don't have to try hard... hell, you don't even have to try when surfing the New Artwork section... to be assaulted with Gene/Catswhisker snugglefucking or NightKrawler-now-NachT's bloodied, dripping phallus. If you surf furry sites or read webcomics at all, at some point, you will be introduced to some of the mockworthy sites out there. It's very easy and convenient to say "if you don't like it, don't look at it." And, such a statement holds water if you're talking about clicking a link around here. If you see a link posted, followed by replies referring to the sanitizing of one's corneas with Liquid Drain-o... then, yes, you know that if you click it, you have only yourself to blame for what you see. But, especially with furry image galleries.... it's far too easy to just stumble across this stuff. Of course, it's your fault if you click the thumbnail to see the full-size image. The problem with furry sites, and the 'net in general, is unless you're surfing for Precious Moments merchandise with about 50 adult filters in place, Winger pics or goatse.cx images will eventually slap you in the face like a wet trout.

Maybe it's just easier to ignore those few moments when furry atrocities reach out and grab you by the nose hairs when you're one of the ones drawing doggie cock in the shower, rather than a bystander window shopping for furry images on VCL and seeing that Mamabliss has updated his archive while looking at the New Artwork thumbnails.

And it's not like people will take one look at a comic and close the browser for good or immediately embrace the comic. In reading enough of a comic to form an opinion of it for your own purposes... you will, obviously, do just that...form and opinion on it. With a site like CYD, most will then share said opinion.

Mocking something doesn't necessarily imply one utterly hates it, either. At present, I'm playing Rygar for PS2. The storyline and dialogue are about as campy as the appropriately comparable movie, Clash of the Titans. About half of what I do in playing the game is mock the corny dialogue. But, I still find it to be a damn fun game. Just because one points out the obvious flaws in something doesn't mean they don't enjoy it.

And it's not like anyone is calling for Gene's or Hopkins' blood when they mock their comics. No one, I assume, is seriously suggesting the comic be banned from the Internet. And I think most here make allowances for differences of opinion. To some Jack is treasure.. and to others, trash. Since mankind could first communicate, though, you have had the crowd what gathers to talk about something because they like it... and the crowd that gathers to talk about something because they don't.

Besides... if you don't like what's discussed here on CYD, it's not like you have to read it. :wink:

Gene points out that "CatsWhisker is his mate" about as often as Wayd points out his wife has large breasts.

No, not nearly as much as you here at CYD do. For the billionth fucking time, and you need to pay attention and listen because some of you are starting to appear as dense and oblivious and ignorant as furries, I mention it because big boobs are a mass culture plus point in selecting females, furry guys will complain to anyone who listens that they are alone and have no girlfriend and wish they did, and I wish to point out that if you want A, you must do B to get it. IOW, open up, grow up, and connect.

Pointing out the big tits is like pointing out that you're driving a Cadillac Escalade rather than talk nebulously of some indistinct SUV. Big tits gets notice of the sort, "wow, someone in furry actually has a decent looking woman." As opposed to leaving the visceral selling points out which isn't as effective as creating insecure envy.

If you leave the points out, they assume some small mousy flat chested goth chick with no personality more intense than any other angsty Lydia Deetz sans Beetlejuice. Saying she has a winning personality is like saying she has a face that has sunk a thousand ships.

But it very rarely produces the necessary follow-up, "I bet I could become really functional and mature and meet someone pretty too." I could have married Angel Kelly and not gotten that response more often.

The point is to get those who are insecure about their own status to out themselves publicly by criticizing me about how often I mention that I am married or that I have a knockout wife. If someone else mentions they have A, B, or C or can do or have done A, B, or C my response is either nothing because I don't care, or questioning to learn how it was done or can be done so I can get there too. Insecure people immediately whine about the other person bragging. It's not bragging if you can or have done it is what I was taught.

(For instance, in customer premises wiring, mentioning that you have done four set multisat installs in one hour flat including code compliant ground will point out which of your fellow workers are on a path to failure because they will assume they can't, they can't accept you can, and you get, "you're bragging". Those destined for success will ask how to speed up the work to do that. Those who are successful will nod, and try to claim they beat your time by five minutes. Soon you're daring each other in competition to outdo each other.)

Of course, leave it to people geeky enough to endlessly debate about Sonic the Hedgehog to not grasp that blindingly obvious fact.

I meant furries. Not the people of CYD of course. No, not the fellow CYD people. Never. :roll:

No offense meant, but it just sounds to me like you're taking the content of his comic strip a tad bit too personal. So he wants to write stories that relfect aspects of his personal life and the woman he loves. I mean, it is his comic strip afterall. As for the human/furry thing, there were humans on the good and humans on the bad, but it's always puzzles me why people tend to take such things like that if it were totally one way or another so personal.

To be fair, since I like playing devil's advocate, yes, when they do do the art traide story like postings I'm sure it can seem too sugary for most poeple, particularly people who are viewing it and are single. However, it's a far cry to say that both fo their styles are power cartoon style art.

Also to be fair, it really isn't that often you do see both of them posting anything to VCL and it really doesn't happen all that often, their last joint posting being back in September. True, when it does it came seem like a week long thing, but then, they somehow manage to tie the pics together and make more than just smut art. I mean, at least when put together it actually forms something of a story line, than just the usual smut art. Unless of course you got an issue with adult art to begin with, then that's a whole other matter all together.

To be fair, since I like playing devil's advocate, yes, when they do do the art traide story like postings I'm sure it can seem too sugary for most poeple, particularly people who are viewing it and are single. However, it's a far cry to say that both fo their styles are power cartoon style art.

Also to be fair, it really isn't that often you do see both of them posting anything to VCL and it really doesn't happen all that often, their last joint posting being back in September. True, when it does it came seem like a week long thing, but then, they somehow manage to tie the pics together and make more than just smut art. I mean, at least when put together it actually forms something of a story line, than just the usual smut art. Unless of course you got an issue with adult art to begin with, then that's a whole other matter all together.

Actually, if you'll notice, I was referring to the whole experience of looking at and reacting to furry atrocities... not just Gene and Cat specifically. In fact, I was referring more to crap folks like NightKrawler/NachT, Kelly Price, and their brood puts out. Gene and Cat's stuff is just dumb and hardly worth reaching for the eye bleach. It ranks about on the same scale as Precious Moments for raising the question of, "Why has this come before my eyes?"

Yo... 'sup?

... then close the quote with with /quote in brackets (had to leave the brackets out so it didn't think I had opened and closed a quote) when you're done. That way, you can put several responses in one post, rather than having three or four posts in a row or posts that seem like they're directed at one person when they're really meant for another.

Re: the avatar... Lur is my idol. If only more of life's problems could be solved by vaporizing those giving you grief. I plan to have a better shot of him when I get time at home to grab a better picture and resize it. I do most of my avatars at my office, and this ancient machine doesn't have anything more sophistocated than MS Paint and a very old copy of Adobe Photo Deluxe. So resizing most things generates really crappy outlines. What's really pitiful is I took the time to install software on the nice, new computers some people recently got, and they still pester me about letting them know when I'm going to lunch so they can use Adobe Photo Deluxe on this machine, just because they don't want to learn how to insert pictures in Word.

No, not nearly as much as you here at CYD do. For the billionth fucking time, and you need to pay attention and listen because some of you are starting to appear as dense and oblivious and ignorant as furries

Pointing out the big tits is like pointing out that you're driving a Cadillac Escalade rather than talk nebulously of some indistinct SUV. Big tits gets notice of the sort, "wow, someone in furry actually has a decent looking woman." As opposed to leaving the visceral selling points out which isn't as effective as creating insecure envy.

The point is to get those who are insecure about their own status to out themselves publicly by criticizing me about how often I mention that I am married or that I have a knockout wife.

(For instance, in customer premises wiring, mentioning that you have done four set multisat installs in one hour flat including code compliant ground will point out which of your fellow workers are on a path to failure because they will assume they can't, they can't accept you can, and you get, "you're bragging". Those destined for success will ask how to speed up the work to do that. Those who are successful will nod, and try to claim they beat your time by five minutes. Soon you're daring each other in competition to outdo each other.)

It seems, from the way the arms look, the boobs aren't the only big thing in that woman.