Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

I'd comment on this, but I've got no time. :b

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

4chan.. an anime image upload board, has a couple of anti-furry banners. The *chan sites, like 4chan, Idlechan, etc., seem to have adopted a no-furries policy because if they allow furry postings, their experience has been that their boards get overrun with all kinds of furry drek, and soon the furry stuff elbows out any chance of finding the anime pics the sites are devoted to. It's not just the nature or poor quality of furry images that some sites are against, but the fact that furries will infest and suck the life (bandwidth) out of a site if allowed to fester unchecked.

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

4chan.. an anime image upload board, has a couple of anti-furry banners. The *chan sites, like 4chan, Idlechan, etc., seem to have adopted a no-furries policy because if they allow furry postings, their experience has been that their boards get overrun with all kinds of furry drek, and soon the furry stuff elbows out any chance of finding the anime pics the sites are devoted to. It's not just the nature or poor quality of furry images that some sites are against, but the fact that furries will infest and suck the life (bandwidth) out of a site if allowed to fester unchecked.

That's not the problem because it can't happen. The reason for the furry ban is much more realistic: the instant anyone reposts any pay shit, the creators of said pay shit and his little buddies raise all hell and make LAWSUITE threats. Basically they ruin everyone else's fun, so they're out.

5chan has a system in place to allow for the furries to post shit, but it's practically a pay site in and of itself. It's also full of some world-class dramawhoring, much of it having nothing to do with furries.

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

The *chan sites, like 4chan, Idlechan, etc., seem to have adopted a no-furries policy because if they allow furry postings, their experience has been that their boards get overrun with all kinds of furry drek

It's more the case that Furries on public boards are difficult to crowd-control with (ignoring any community standards but their own...), and god, can they ever fucking whine when the people actually paying for the site start laying down teh Law.

That, and no-one is really at all interested in the jailhouse-gay fursona shit.("zOMG! 90% of the Intreweb is hetro!") ... 4chan in particular doesn't welcome people posting their own piss-poor quality art as well. (Well, up until the "Souldark cabal" started banning all the flamers...leaving no-one to serve the lamers their appropriate rewards for being a 28 year old who draws like a 12 year old with a crayon...)

The reason for the furry ban is much more realistic: the instant anyone reposts any pay shit, the creators of said pay shit and his little buddies raise all hell and make LAWSUITE threats.

Payart was a 5chan problem. Furry is banned on 4chan because, guess what, the guys paying for the place don't want it. (include link to "JJcoolJ is Banned" here)

4chan.. an anime image upload board, has a couple of anti-furry banners.

That was iichan/idlechan ... I wonder who could've created them... Fucking Furries.

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

That's not the problem because it can't happen. The reason for the furry ban is much more realistic: the instant anyone reposts any pay shit, the creators of said pay shit and his little buddies raise all hell and make LAWSUITE threats. Basically they ruin everyone else's fun, so they're out.

Considering some pay sites have a very shakey idea of copyrights on previews, I recently found a piece of ancient fanart I did up as a preview pic for a pay site. So they were using my fanart to sell a adult art site, I not only objected to that upon the grounds that it was my work but on the grounds that if it had been traced back to me, I could have landed in hot water along with these people for trademark infringement even though I didn't know it had be taken and posted as a tempter image.

So really I can understand why they don't want anthro artists in there if they're a paysite, probably don't want fanartists pitching a fit over being dragged onto shakey ground over trademarks unwillingly.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Ah, okay. Forgive my misperception of the reasons behind it. I would assume, as you said with the crowd control issue.. that they also didn't want the place to play host to all of the fucked-up crap furries can bombard a site with. Dickgirls and tentacles, IMO, pale in comparison to some of the things I've seen on VCL. Although, guro art still outdoes much of that. :shock: But, I've never paid attention to the workings on those sites. I just snag a pic now and then for wallpaper. So, I wasn't too up on the whole thing.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Dickgirls and tentacles, IMO, pale in comparison to some of the things I've seen on VCL. Although, Guro art still outdoes much of that. :shock:

What, you mean the African masks? Those I have seen are pretty neat and non-sexual... What Guro art have you seen that deserves a :shock: ?

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Girls being dissected, run through an egg-slicer, beheaded during sex, committing seppuku in the buff.... stuff that would make Pinhead want to wash his eyes out with hydrochloric acid. I mistakenly capitalized "guro," thinking it was taken from someone using that name to produce such works. I think it's just the term producing the kind of stuff done by folks like Uziga. Search his name and you'll see what I mean. Or, rather, spare your eyeballs and take my word for it.

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

I mistakenly capitalized "guro," thinking it was taken from someone using that name to produce such works. I think it's just the term producing the kind of stuff done by folks like Uziga.

It's a term popularised by 2channel and 2chan, based on the english word "gore". The community at sites such as http://cgi.2chan.net/o/guro2-enter.html and http://tmp.2chan.net/guro-gazou/guro-enter.html bring back fond memories of male (and occassionally female) bonding as we gathered around the first-aid textbooks back in primary and high-school...

Search his name and you'll see what I mean. Or, rather, spare your eyeballs and take my word for it.

Next week: Xration, and why you should never have kids.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

Girls being dissected, run through an egg-slicer, beheaded during sex, committing seppuku in the buff.... stuff that would make Pinhead want to wash his eyes out with hydrochloric acid. I mistakenly capitalized "guro," thinking it was taken from someone using that name to produce such works. I think it's just the term producing the kind of stuff done by folks like Uziga. Search his name and you'll see what I mean. Or, rather, spare your eyeballs and take my word for it.

Fuck! I remember stumbling across his work several years ago. I am not kidding when I say I nearly vomited all over my computer. Tentacles? Fine. Dickgirls? Okay. But this stuff is fucking heinous. It's abysmal. Horrific. Every syllable for "bad". I cannot see one single person jerking off to this. Not one. And if you do, kill yourself before you become the next Jack the Ripper.

Dormin · Qualificator Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 23

Girls being dissected, run through an egg-slicer, beheaded during sex, committing seppuku in the buff.... stuff that would make Pinhead want to wash his eyes out with hydrochloric acid. I mistakenly capitalized "guro," thinking it was taken from someone using that name to produce such works. I think it's just the term producing the kind of stuff done by folks like Uziga. Search his name and you'll see what I mean. Or, rather, spare your eyeballs and take my word for it.

Wikipedia agrees with you, Guro is a sub class of manga, revolving around grotesque imagery of depraved and sadistic acts. Also, if it's true, I find it interesting to note that Uziga Waita translates to "The Maggots rush forth."

WARNING, mild descriptions of UW work ahead
First time I ever saw his art work, I didn't think there was anything bad. It was just a girl in a pink bikini. Then I realized it wasn't a bikini. Next image I saw before shutting down his site was a hentai version of Elisabeth Bathory except replace the bathtub of blood with the body parts of girls. I have never hit the X button on my browser that fast in my life.
End Warning

I'm with WGITC, I can handle the tentacle stuff and shitting dick nipples, but guro... gyah...

M0us3_Zero · Vociferator Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 366

I do hope 4chan and it's sattelite forums/sites seperate these... visual atrocities from the rest of their stuff.

I do use 4chan for wallpaper fodder.

baserock love · Qualificator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 10

christ, i just looked up uziga, fucking disgusting :x , i certainly hope that he hides that shit from his parents in a safe under lock n key (i'm assuming that someone that maladjusted either lives with there parents or a halfway house or something). It reminded me of some furry art i came across days ago that was almost equally twisted. I couldn't google up an example but most were appendage severing related, one image that comes to mind involved all sorts of nude bunny girl torsos and legs on an assembly line falling into various bins. Who is that? sombody had to have seen this

Stoneth · Vociferator Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 545

Ah, guro. Personally I fail to see what people see in this stuff, but I think that anyone who gets off on such material is a bit disturbed.

Granted, I am not above violent content, in fact when used correctly can produce good stuff. For example, when Something Awful ran its huge contest, one of the available themes for entries was "your favorite anime character being killed". Some of the entries that fit that theme were actually quite entertaining. Uziga's stuff is just messed up.

Back to the original topic, personally I don't mind some sites being anti-furry, particularly on a posting board. If I want to see furry art, I'll go to a site that has it. That being said, I'd like to point out that the banner was advertising an online comic (which happens to be devoid of anime, furry, or superhero influence). If the artist wants to draw attention by advertising this fact, then all the better. The artist reaches the intended audience. If you don't happen to fall into this category, you can still read it, say you like or don't like it, and continue on. No biggie.

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

but I think that anyone who gets off on such material is a bit disturbed.

"...or should join their local Armed Services Unit, and become a Grunt who gets paid to kill people..." ("Sanctity of Arms"? Ha.)

#include

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

I do hope 4chan and it's sattelite forums/sites seperate these... visual atrocities from the rest of their stuff.

They killed of the /g/ and /l/ boards months ago. Google the "Overchan" list for the replacement sites.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Girls being dissected, run through an egg-slicer, beheaded during sex, committing seppuku in the buff.... stuff that would make Pinhead want to wash his eyes out with hydrochloric acid. I mistakenly capitalized "guro," thinking it was taken from someone using that name to produce such works. I think it's just the term producing the kind of stuff done by folks like Uziga. Search his name and you'll see what I mean. Or, rather, spare your eyeballs and take my word for it.

Oh. Dang, I had happily forgotten about Uziga. I've seen that girl-through-egg-slicer pic of his (I hope there's only one), and, well, what weird_guy_in_the_corner said. No Uziga searches for me, nor will I click the links supplied by Chris Baird. I don't need to see Uziga "art" ever again.

I've never encountered the word "guro" in relation to comic-related art before. OK, according to Wikipedia, "Guro" is a shortened corruption of the Japanese pronunciation of "grotesque". It is generally used to refer to extreme pornography and hentai involving blood, disfiguration, mutilation, urine, or feces. The word just never popped up in any of the books or articles I've read about manga, so I guess it's not a widely used term.

Not to defend Uziga or the sick shit he produces, but I can see where it's coming from. Japanese culture doesn't frown upon use of violence in entertainment as much as Western culture does (or perhaps rather did), so you get violence in a lot of manga. And in some horror manga, you get extremely violent imagery, like in the works of Kazuo Umezo or Hideshi Hino. So in a way, Uziga is a twisted version of this tradition for visual shock effects. The difference of course is that mangaka like Umezo and Hino use extreme imagery as an element in telling a story, while to Uziga it becomes a point in itself. And that's where the nausea sets in.

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 588

Re: Baird's remark on the armed services...
I didn't get it myself, and were the quotes a reference? No one in the military should ever be there if they actually enjoy killing. Not in the usual uniformed services anyways.

Re: the fucked up hentai shit...
www.stilemedia.com has had bits and pieces of this and it is about as appetizing as the pics of extreme piercings, which are real mutilation. Or those of extreme Japanese boob bondage where breasts are turned into giant blood blisters. It's all sick, so of course it's on the Internet. Duh.

Since I install high speed Internet among other things, bringing this crap into civilian homes faster than ever before, and you all seem to spend inordinate amounts of time looking for it to test how jaded you are and the limits of your disgust, I am now reminded of Dr. Weir telling Capt. Miller that the ship is going back to Hell and everyone is going with him...

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

Re: Baird's remark on the armed services...
I didn't get it myself, and were the quotes a reference? No one in the military should ever be there if they actually enjoy killing. Not in the usual uniformed services anyways.

Just personal experience with reservists and full-timers --7 of the 8 would beg me for a copy of the Uziga mangas.

Something to add with a Furry twist-- there's a guro h-manga out there called "All My Dog!", which I'd recommend to those people with the stomach for it. You want to be a real furry? Amputate your fingers and legs, and get a good dose of brain-f*cking drugs that turn you into a functional cripple, only good enough to be a pet. It's one of those absurd society stories, and the writer uses the pity-hammer to toss your emotions around. I don't like the idea of keeping a pet.

(*cough* Certain people are going to think of me as a gurotard now...)

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

Jesus smeggin' Christ they brought up Uziga. Now all those painful memories are rushing back like a flood of anime girl blood. I had seen that drek occasionally, but it wasn't until I checked Ecchi Attack when I found out there was some sick fuck who monopolized this shit.

Fuckin' Uziga...

Xarai · Apocrisiary Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 44

Oh, regarding 4chan, you knew it had to happen sooner or later: fchan, a furry version of 4chan, has been around for a month or so now.

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

Oh, regarding 4chan, you knew it had to happen sooner or later: fchan, a furry version of 4chan, has been around for a month or so now.

Ha, it's managed to survive this long without a fuckwit like Nightcrawler posting their shit to it. Good on them.

creature · Venter Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 240

Jesus smeggin' Christ they brought up Uziga. Now all those painful memories are rushing back like a flood of anime girl blood. I had seen that drek occasionally, but it wasn't until I checked Ecchi Attack when I found out there was some sick fuck who monopolized this shit.

Fuckin' Uziga...

To quote Nelson... "HA HA!. Thankfully, never seen antyhing from Uziga. That's probably for the best.

Stoneth · Vociferator Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 545

Oh, regarding 4chan, you knew it had to happen sooner or later: fchan, a furry version of 4chan, has been around for a month or so now.

I wonder if the artists behind the works being posted know that they're being distributed. Some artists tend to be really touchy about redistribution (particularly if the image was made for an exclusive collection). Well what's good for the school-girl is good for the vixen, I suppose.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Looks mostly like a place to unload stuff from Bernal's site and Dr. Comet's CDs. I'd imagine either of those would blow a gasket.

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

fchan, a furry version of 4chan

You know, I think it might be...
NON-FURRY FRIDAY

I wonder if the artists behind the works being posted know that they're being distributed

Geez, do you reckon?

A while back, Bernal dropped by 4chan's /b/ for a bit of a chat. He caught on a bit faster than most to the nautre of the board.

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

Looks mostly like a place to unload stuff from Bernal's site and Dr. Comet's CDs. I'd imagine either of those would blow a gasket.

There's not much Dr. Comet could do even if he cared, but Bernal's going to E-X-P-L-O-D-E in an apocalyptic fit of whining.

THIS THREAD IS NOW THE F-CHAN DEATHWATCH

$20 SAYS IT WON'T LAST 3 MONTHS

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

AAAAND.... DEAD

WHERE'S MY $20

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

AAAAND.... DEAD

WHERE'S MY $20

C'mon now, you knew none of us would be stupid enough to take that bet. :wink:

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

hold up now. It says here that its down from a hard drive failure and will be back soon. ish.

I think they're still in the game

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

hold up now. It says here that its down from a hard drive failure and will be back soon. ish.

I think they're still in the game

That's what anyone claims when they want pity, but don't want to deal with peddling illegal shit AND receiving amounts of hate mail, death threats, and pictures of furries diddling themselves. It's amazing how many hard disks fail these days. :wink:

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

pictures of furries diddling themselves.

That would be enough right there. If the RIAA and movie companies really wanted to fuck with file sharers they could stop with the lawsuits and start with the threats of furry circle-jerks.

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

It says here that its down from a hard drive failure and will be back soon. ish.

lol amateur commercial adult hosting sites...

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

Hay guys

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

Hey fellahs, I heard we need some puppies in this thread so I have this wonderful image to show you. :)

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

The ubiquitous Bad Hard Drive strikes again!

Second of all, I have bad news: The drive is getting worse and worse and we're unable to copy the data off. :'(

Could anybody recommend a data recovery service? The cheaper the better. I'm severely in the red right now. :\

Yerf is down and not looking too good. They may lose a good portion of the data (images) they had, and in the end may have to start from scratch with all the artists reuploading their work.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Standard Furry "Tech": RAID 5? Yah. I use that on my fursuits to keep the roaches out!

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Too bad about Yerf. There are some really good artists on there...

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Don't these guys ever.. you know... back shit up on CD?

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

Yeah, most do or should do then again perhaps they should be smart and have a backup HD like I do after my recent HD failure.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Before I went from WinME to WinXP, I went through all of my image and music archives and sorted them into nice little categories under main directories. Then I proceeded to back them up on CD along with other things like documents and install files for various programs I had downloaded. It proved advantageous because things were kind of squirrelly after putting XP Home on top of ME, as some folks had warned me. I decided to wipe everything and clean install XP Pro.

Not only was it good to do a little hard-drive housecleaning, but it was good to get all of those files onto CD so they wouldn't be lost in some catyclismic implosion of my hard drive. I would think such backups are something worth doing at least yearly, if not every few months or something... especially if you're responsible for hosting a huge image archive like VCL.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

This actually befell me, too.

Before CDROM.COM turned into the cesspool it is, I downloaded EVERY FUCKING MODFILE. That was, shit, nearly 20 gigs, back in 1998. I sorted them by artist, with links by genre, and year.

It took me 4 full unemployed months to do it. Then, my disk died. :cry: :cry:

Dr. Dos · Venter Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 244

rankin I am laughing at you right now :(

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

rankin I am laughing at you right now :(

That's OK, for I am stabbing you with my switchblade prehensile penis :mad:

This was before DLTs were affordable at the home. I think all of my HD munging really pissed that disk off. NO SOUP FOR ME. :(

Xarai · Apocrisiary Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 44

fchan is back.

How long before another CATASTROPHIC HARD DISK FAILURE, I wonder?

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

rankin I am laughing at you right now :(

That's OK, for I am stabbing you with my switchblade prehensile penis :mad:

I've seen it, and despite first appearances in actuality it's NOT prehensile, but rather ridgid.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

fchan is back.

How long before another CATASTROPHIC HARD DISK FAILURE, I wonder?

Or how long before the admin gives up? From what I've seen of it, it's little more than a repost of stuff put on VCL and "sauce" requests (i.e., requests for the image source) from people too dumb to realize the pictures are from VCL. There's the occasional cute kemono gal... and a parade of scarily underage-looking male characters on there. But, by and large, it's just VCL reprised.