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Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Various VCL reactions on the 9-11 attacks.

Featuring French flags, gay furry characters, Osama bin Laden, furry view on war and military, and more.

Very special award:
NSFW "she's aiming at Osama"

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

How is a steroid-enhanced, foppish wolf in a red, white, and blue bikini brief a response to 9-11?

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

The guy in the French flag underwear?

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i know this is not make for the attack on wtc.. etc... but i think cute...

I don't understand what does it mean, so I decided to edit this one off.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

What's with the bottom picture? He looks like he's off to take a shit or something. And I had no idea Osama had a jetpack and wore...whatever the hell he's wearing.

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

Only in america would someone give an arab sharp pointy teeth and evil red eyes while we drop bombs and have killed a hundred times more innocent civillians in their land than were killed on 9/11. (And I say this while we've invaded Iraq for no real reason.)

Really, who's the monsters now? I am ashamed of my country.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

Am I the only one seeing a huge multicolored dick jutting out?

Not just Turrican, SUPER OSAMA BIN TURRICAN!!

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I think Osama was one of the Silverhawks.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Only in america would someone give an arab sharp pointy teeth and evil red eyes while we drop bombs and have killed a hundred times more innocent civillians in their land than were killed on 9/11. (And I say this while we've invaded Iraq for no real reason.)

Really, who's the monsters now? I am ashamed of my country.

Well, I guess you mean a British medical report few months ago. Well, first of all it's not 300,000 (some 300,000 dead are actually estimated to be found in the Iraq's mass graves).

Statistics are at anywhere between AFAIR 18,000 and 100,000 and this estimates ALL civilian deaths, including:
- these caused by a deliberate enemy attacks against Iraqi civilians (ex: bombing of the International Red Cross mission, bombings of a Shia holy shrine and the religious festival, executions of a civilian "collaborators", assasinations of Shia, Kurds and Christians, etc);
- a "colleteral damage" in an insurgent attacks (ex: an Iraqi police station or US patrol is bombed, but people on the street are blown up too);
- killings by criminals (and there's a lot of them - for example almost of a kidnapping victims are Iraqis, not foreigners, they just go unreported);
- these of a more natural reasons, but caused by the war (ex: hospital was looted and not working properly, or caused by terrorists scaring off a humanitarian workers).

All actually documented Iraqi deaths (including members of Saddam's military, or now members of a police, national guards, insurgents or a Kurdish peshmerga) are at anywhere between about 14 and 17 thousand people.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

Statistics....

The point is not if there are 150 or 10 million of Iraquis dead. The point is that they're dead because of the invasion, either directly or indirectly, either shot by American fire or by the 'insurgence'.

The point is that they are dead BEACUSE of the invasion. That's what matters. That if there hasn't been such a stupid, senseless invasion, it's more than likely that those people would still be alive.

Besides, with that invasion, there were many other, much less important victims. Like, say, the US government's credibility. We've found now that the US government lies and invents pretexts to attack as much as the enemy. And we've found were no mass destruction weapons. That the Iraqui people won't welcome the troops throwing flowers. That Irak wasn't an imminent threat to anybody's soverinity, especially after 10 years of restrictive UN sanctions. That the US government was QUITE pissed of the UN inspectors finding no traces of biological weaponry.

That the US soldiers are as good to torture prisoners as South American dictatorship's goons. Yay for the freedom fighters.

That the outrageous foreign politics is isolating the US more and more, and all the international support the US governent had right after the attacks is gone for good.

And that, despite the promises made so many times, the fucking war isn't over yet, and is STILL killing people.

And this is the -only- time I'm going to talk about politics here in CYD.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

What's with the bottom picture? He looks like he's off to take a shit or something. And I had no idea Osama had a jetpack and wore...whatever the hell he's wearing.

Please don't notice a bulge in the Super Osama's pants... I noticed and I'll never forget.

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Whats with the black and white one with the fox thing with the roll of toilet paper... I dont get it. Whats that got to do with anything ?

Very special award:
NSFW "she's aiming at Osama"

:D

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Statistics....
The point is that they are dead BEACUSE of the invasion. That's what matters. That if there hasn't been such a stupid, senseless invasion, it's more than likely that those people would still be alive.

And the sad part is, there's nothing new to Iraq. There was about 1 million dead in the 10-years old Iraq-Iran war (on both sides). About 100,000 Iraqi soldiers, and many Iraqi and Kuwaiti civilians died in the Gulf War.

Some 100,000 Kurds and Christian Arabs were killed or dissapapeared during the 1988 Anfal extermination campaign. Many of them were were gassed to death, including 5,000 in the Halabja chemical attack alone. In the March 1991 Shia/Kurdish intifada (a popular uprising) tens of thousands died, and even more murdered aftwards (they are people in the mass graves). Saddam destroyed marsh dwellers' 5,000-years-old people, culture and the unique environment, and ethnic cleansed other ancient minorities like Assyrians.

He starved his people and blamed UN, while building dozens of palaces full of gold for himself. He then sent his brain-washed suicide commandos to die for him, while he cowardly took shelter in a rat hole... even Hitler had enough balls to blow his brains out in the end, and then having his body destroyed (fragment of his skull is in the Moscow museum anyway).

Infamous Abu Ghraib was a prison/torture center for decades before the American takeover. And it was much, much worse. Right now deserters from Iraqi military are merely not paid. Two years ago the punishment was having an ear cut off - or a firing squad.

Also, there's a political and religious freedom in Iraq, and the leading criminals will be put on trial... like in the post-war (west) Germany or Japan. And you know Germans and Japanese were also still suffering after the war ended, don't you? They were starving in the ruins, they were being (often absolutely savagely) ethnic cleansed beyond their homelands. A lot of people died. German cities were a carpet bombed wastelands, Japanese cities were also a radioactive postnuclear wastelands. Slowly dying from a radiation poisoning isn't cool, I assure you. Being sent to Siberia or imprisoned in an ex-Nazi concentration camp (Abu Ghraib, anyone?) isn't my idea of fun time too.

Occupation = teh evil, sure, but just look on Germany or Japan now. Only the level of a resistance was much smaller, but this also because their defeat was so devastating.

Oh, and this was a "good war", too... or wasn't it?

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

You know there's something especially stupid about furry 9/11 pictures. Mind you the most insulting thing I ever saw was a comic done in msn paint about the normandy landings and starring for absolutely no goddamn reason of all a moronic pokemon thrown in. I mean what have either got to do with these real situations in which people died. :x

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Whats with the black and white one with the fox thing with the roll of toilet paper... I dont get it. Whats that got to do with anything ?

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Last upload for today. So you wanna' know what I want to do to those dirty terrorists who attacked the WTC? I'm gonna wrap their huts with toilet paper, that's what! *flail*

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

Yes let us TP the terrorists' huts. That'll learn 'em.

Edit: I wasn't awaree that terrorists lived in huts. I thought they lived in caves and whatnot.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

Yes let us TP the terrorists' huts. That'll learn 'em.

Edit: I wasn't awaree that terrorists lived in huts. I thought they lived in caves and whatnot.

They also live in apartments. Here, an image taken from a video in Madrid's surroundings as they blow themselves and half of the building after being caught by police.

SLaitila · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 408

Very special award:
NSFW "she's aiming at Osama"

DUDEOMFG!!!!

That's mine.

I remember adding the osama face after the photoshopping as the gradient looked so damn crappy, and it seemed like a fun idea.

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Man Bin Laden is buff. Hey I'm a Arab why the hell don't I look like that. I and let me tell you as bad as Iraq was before at least the people could walk in the streets without being shot at by us, mobsters, us and mobsters, insurgents, Baathists, and Apache Helicopters. Iraq can't stop being a hellhole one way or the other.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

Fuck this guys, who wants to board my space ship and go colonize another planet? Looks like this one's FUBAR'd. Come on, we can start an advanced civilization and use DA and Charisma as breeding stock or something.

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

Occupation = teh evil, sure, but just look on Germany or Japan now. Only the level of a resistance was much smaller, but this also because their defeat was so devastating.

Oh, and this was a "good war", too... or wasn't it?

Germany and Japan were under the threat of nuclear strikes. I think we'd all be scared shitless if someone held that kind of power over us when we had nothing of that scale. But what gets me about Iraq... It was a diversion from Afghanistan, hidden under the guise of 'we're helping them.' 'they're working on nuclear weapons' and 'there're terrorists in Iraq'. When there wasn't any evidence of WMD's. Very few terrorists. (if any) And how to you help people by killing them?

Now let's look at it this way. Someone invades your country for political and financial gain. Kills and maims your women and children, all the while calling YOU terrorists. Then they're going to change your whole way of life and turn your country into a market for their goods while there's been an embargo for a decade.

We need to get the hell out of Iraq.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

There were actually Nazi guerillas in Germany. Folks were calling themself WERWOLF - Werewolves. A wicked cool name. One of their favourite tactics was the decapitating wire for an Allied soldiers riding jeeps and motorcycles. I think they did bomb a police station even in 1948. There were also some surviving hard-core Nazis who escaped to the South America with a Jewish gold, dreaming of a Fourth Reich and actually even having a nostalgia concetration camps in the jungle (Mossad raided one such facality in their covert actions).

Japanese soldiers and officials who couldn't stand defeat mostly just killed themsleves. There were isolated groups of a desperate stragglers on the Pacific islands, however - last of them were killed or captured(rescued?) only in 60-80s and there were still stories about being more (they had a lot of missing, you know). Also there were some troops who joined, say, Viet Minh to continue their race war against gaijins (one of them was one of a highest-ranking officers, who during the war served as a middleman connection between Japanese High Command and the Imperial Court).

As for US troops leaving Iraq right now... I'm sorry, but Liban would happen. That's what the terrorists want: a victory over infidels followed by a sectarian/ethnic total war with the Kurds and heretics (heretics who happen to be the majority of Iraqis, but terrorists don't care about Iraq - it's just a battlefield), with Syrian, Iranese, Saudis and Turks all involved. And while a secular/fascist neo-Baathist faction of la resistance "only" wants the power back (and then massively purge their opponnents), there's simply no back to the "good old" Iraq before the Invasion now. Even in Afghanistan after Soviets were finally defeated just the savage civil war(s) started, with a changing sides, lots of dead and a complete destruction of Kabul - and then came in the Taliban and al-Qaida guys. All with an absolute minimum American public, official and intelligence interest 1990-98, and certainly zero US troops... you know the end of this show, don't you?

Also, remember what happened in the Indochina area after US stepped off, and this including death of some 1/3 Cambodians in 4 years after the "liberation" (btw: the last US soldiers dead and missing in the war were Marines involved in the Cambodia combat in 1975)... or just ask the boat people. It's not like Yankees go home = no people dying.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

But what gets me about Iraq... It was a diversion from Afghanistan, hidden under the guise of 'we're helping them.' 'they're working on nuclear weapons' and 'there're terrorists in Iraq'. When there wasn't any evidence of WMD's. Very few terrorists. (if any)

Situation in Afghanistan is actually fine in a comparison. About terrorists, there were al-Zarqawi's boys (who fled there from the Afghanistan, and were a rival organisation to the Osama's at the moment). Also, Saddam was openly financing a Palestinian groups for blowing up an Israeli civs, and cheering 911 attacks like a national holiday. While back in 1990 he and Osama were a sworn enemies (Osama was actually calling for a Jihad in defence of Kuwait), but after the Saudi regime invited infidel US troops on their Holy Land to beat the crap out of Iraqis in the Gulf War, the two became an allies of some sort.

In a sense, the "insurgency" began before Baghdad fell. Religious jihadis - would-be martyrs from other Arab nations - had been recruited by Saddam's government to carry out "suicide operations" against the Americans. Many of them were young men with full beards, dressed in traditional robes. In Baghdad, where most Iraqi men were relatively clean-shaven and wore Western dress, the jihadis stood out as foreigners and were plainly visible until a few hours before the Marines arrived; a number were staying in the same hotels as Western reporters. The morning Baghdad fell, I saw about sixty of them slip away. The evidence suggests that they regrouped clandestinely under Baathist recruiters and helped to build the insurgency. Most of the Baathists I spoke to acknowledged a tactical alliance between their own resistance and the foreign Islamist militants.

(...)
The insurgency has clearly moved beyond the Baathists; the stakes are much higher now. Last week, a large-scale offensive against Falluja seemed imminent, with American troops moving into position. The American special-forces officer told me that he and others were hopeful that, with the election over, the White House would give its full backing for a decisive battle: "By being aggressive, it may be tough, bloody, and unpopular at first, but it will knock the terrorists off balance and create the space for success. The longer we wait, the more difficult, costly, and bloody it will be."

Last month, I asked Stephen Browning how he viewed the situation in Iraq. He replied, "I spoke to an Iraqi doctor friend last week and I asked him the same question. He said to me, 'The country is slowly dying.' He was always an optimist before, so to hear him say this was just so dispiriting to me. My own sense is that I don't see a good, positive way ahead. There were so many opportunities that were lost in the early days. Now that this insurgency has grown so big, I don't know what we can do to stop it."

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

While back in 1990 he and Osama were a sworn enemies (Osama was actually calling for a Jihad in defence of Kuwait), but after the Saudi regime invited infidel US troops on their Holy Land to beat the crap out of Iraqis in the Gulf War, the two became an allies of some sort.

Pop quiz: how old is the Earth?

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

While back in 1990 he and Osama were a sworn enemies (Osama was actually calling for a Jihad in defence of Kuwait), but after the Saudi regime invited infidel US troops on their Holy Land to beat the crap out of Iraqis in the Gulf War, the two became an allies of some sort.

Pop quiz: how old is the Earth?

Older than dirt?

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

Also, Saddam was openly financing a Palestinian groups for blowing up an Israeli civs, and cheering 911 attacks like a national holiday. While back in 1990 he and Osama were a sworn enemies (Osama was actually calling for a Jihad in defence of Kuwait), but after the Saudi regime invited infidel US troops on their Holy Land to beat the crap out of Iraqis in the Gulf War, the two became an allies of some sort.

Wow. You're dumb.

ALSO SADDAM IS NOT OSAMA BIN LADEN

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 793

Um, excuse me Mister Badly Drawn Furry, but I think you might wanna look behind you. I think they just did.

Apparently, the plan of having a giant stickfigure fox with a sickle standing on the Manhattan shoreline didn't deter Bin laden (though I'm sure it puzzled the fuck out of him for a few minutes though).

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Also, Saddam was openly financing a Palestinian groups for blowing up an Israeli civs, and cheering 911 attacks like a national holiday. While back in 1990 he and Osama were a sworn enemies (Osama was actually calling for a Jihad in defence of Kuwait), but after the Saudi regime invited infidel US troops on their Holy Land to beat the crap out of Iraqis in the Gulf War, the two became an allies of some sort.

Wow. You're dumb.

ALSO SADDAM IS NOT OSAMA BIN LADEN

Dear Sir: Are you an idiot? Are you suggesting I wrote something like Saddam wearing a fake beard and then declaring a religious war on himself? I was obviously talking about a 1990 declaration of a Holy War on Saddam's Iraq after the invasion and occupation of Kuwait ("sworn enemies" and "Jihad" things).

1990 would-be-Jihad for dummies (meaning you), from BBC:

When Saddam Hussein’s forces invaded Kuwait in 1990, Osama Bin Laden proposed to the Saudi Government that he drive them out with a mujahideen army. The Saudis declined the offer, and invited the US military to do the job instead. Appalled at this ‘desecration’ of holy Arabian soil by Christian and Jewish soldiers, Bin Laden and his Saudi followers began to complain about their rulers and their American backers. To escape the attentions of the Saudi authorities, Bin Laden moved first to Sudan then, in 1996, to Afghanistan where he forged a close alliance with the Taleban.

Furthermore, I clearly stated that "Iraqi" infamous Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (Monotheism and Holy War Movement led by a Jordanian individual Abu Musab al-Zarqawi), was not a part of al-Qaida, but a rival anti-Western group - at least at the time of invasion (al-Zarqawi pledged their alliegance to al-Qaida only early this year). There was a much confusion about Tawhid (and their local Kurdish Ansar al-Islam allies) before and early in the war, however.

The actual al-Qaida was largery destroyed in Afghanistan 2001-02, and now it works mostly just a rallying flag for a various extremist Sunni groups around the world. Osama is such a great poster boy. Also a limited, and mostly defensive, guerilla activity on the Afghan-Pakistani border areas, along with a neo-Taliban and Pakistani tribal forces (not terribly succesfull, as they failed to even interrupt the Afghani election).

Also: Yes, Saddam Hussein is in fact not Osama bin Laden, people. That's right! They are actually a two different persons. Thank you The New Meat for reminding this incredible thing to everyone.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I just noticed that fox in his underpants is special because he's a kitsune. Pbbbbtttthhhhttttt. A magical fox that passes so much gas that it had to develop multiple tails to fan the fumes.

Also, is there a point to wearing an armored vest if the only other things you're wearing are your skivvies and a bedsheet tied around your shoulders? It's not much of a vest, either.... looks like he has to keep hiking it up 'cause it has no shoulder straps. Maybe he just duct-taped a cookie sheet to his chest. Who knows.

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

Older than dirt?

Just checking to see if he believed in evolution. Should've also checked if he thought that all the mass media had an INHERENT LIBERAL BIAS thanks to it's JEWISH CONSPIRATOR OWNERSHIP, but eh.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

During my graduate studies, we had one older fellow who was a pastor going for a degree in geology with the intent of learning about geologic evidence for the age of the Earth in order to disprove all of it.

What's funnier than that is our historical geology professor also happened to be an ordained minister. Two men of the cloth on opposite sides of the geologic/evolutionary fence.

Put them in the same apartment in L.A. and I SMELL A SITCOM!!!

Dormin · Qualificator Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 23

I just noticed that fox in his underpants is special because he's a kitsune. Pbbbbtttthhhhttttt. A magical fox that passes so much gas that it had to develop multiple tails to fan the fumes.

Also, is there a point to wearing an armored vest if the only other things you're wearing are your skivvies and a bedsheet tied around your shoulders? It's not much of a vest, either.... looks like he has to keep hiking it up 'cause it has no shoulder straps. Maybe he just duct-taped a cookie sheet to his chest. Who knows.

I'm not completely sure about this, but I got a strong feeling he was trying to make his ... whatever the hell that is supposed to be, look like this guy:

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Older than dirt?

Just checking to see if he believed in evolution. Should've also checked if he thought that all the mass media had an INHERENT LIBERAL BIAS thanks to it's JEWISH CONSPIRATOR OWNERSHIP, but eh.

I think you're mistaking me with a Wayd Wolf or something. I'm actually considering myself a liberal democrat (meaning democracy, not the American Democratic Party - obviously I'm not an US citizien) and was quite devastated for a while after George Bush II won the re-election (i recovered and I'm fine). Yep, I'm reading The Guardian and all. While I don't like Mikey Moore, it's not because he's a Leni Nazigirl of a Whatever Party, just because he's a big fat douche. Mass media, while not necessery always spreading desinformation on a purpose (in the free countries, that is - remember I've been living in the once unfree country myself), are much too often just very underinformed, and a TV newsreel certainly isn't best source of knowledge on the world. No, really, I don't mean just Sky News or what not. And even the experts are sometimes wrong.

Also Earth is up to 5 billion years old (most probably somewhere about 4,5).

As for "no foreign terrorists in Iraq" subject I'd like also to point out that Baghdad was, for decades, a base of the Abu Nidal Organisation, an anti-Arafat offshot of the al-Fatah/PLO, responsible of murdering about 300 people worldwide (old Abu Nidal himself finally "commited suicide" in 2002, most probably with a more then a little help from a Saddam agents). Other example was sheltering and sponsoring a renegade Iranian Mujahideen-e-Khalq/People's Mujahideen (now disarmed by the US forces, and without a fight), responsible for many attacks against Iran, and also an anti-Shia reprisals inside Iraq.

Presea · Coadjutor Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 71

Dormin, that's just what I was thinking.

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

this guy:

My God... what HAVEN'T furries already ruined for me? I've already had Moogles defiled repeatedly. :cry:
I won't toss my opinion on Iraq out there, but what I do know is that all I've heard from Republicans I personally know supporting it is, "They were bad people and needed the USA to save them." While all I've heard from Democrats is, "We gotta get out of there, but we're already in a bad position." Then in the other corner we have furries, who teach us that poorly drawn anthropamorphic foxes don't exactly get any coherent message out for anything.

Presea · Coadjutor Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 71

this guy:

My God... what HAVEN'T furries already ruined for me? I've already had Moogles defiled repeatedly. :cry:

You think the treatment Moogles have gotten by furverts is bad? Just look at what they do to Pokémon... :(

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

this guy:

My God... what HAVEN'T furries already ruined for me? I've already had Moogles defiled repeatedly. :cry:

You think the treatment Moogles have gotten by furverts is bad? Just look at what they do to Pokémon... :(

Forget pokemon, look at what they do to things like Card captor Sakura, I mean 12 years old for gods sake...mind you cream the rabbit from sonic X is just as bad.

Dormin · Qualificator Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 23

this guy:

My God... what HAVEN'T furries already ruined for me? I've already had Moogles defiled repeatedly. :cry:

You think the treatment Moogles have gotten by furverts is bad? Just look at what they do to Pokémon... :(

Forget pokemon, look at what they do to things like Card captor Sakura, I mean 12 years old for gods sake...mind you cream the rabbit from sonic X is just as bad.

12? Oh goddamnit, now I feel even worse for finding that image which depicts Sakura giving herself an abortion with a wire hanger.

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

this guy:

My God... what HAVEN'T furries already ruined for me? I've already had Moogles defiled repeatedly. :cry:

You think the treatment Moogles have gotten by furverts is bad? Just look at what they do to Pokémon... :(

Forget pokemon, look at what they do to things like Card captor Sakura, I mean 12 years old for gods sake...mind you cream the rabbit from sonic X is just as bad.

12? Oh goddamnit, now I feel even worse for finding that image which depicts Sakura giving herself an abortion with a wire hanger.

I never ever want to see that. :shock:

Chris Baird · Prattler Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 133

never ever want to see that. :shock:

Heh heh heh... Manga... Clone... Army...

Well, it takes a certain /b/tard mentality to appreciate some of Dan Kim's stuff. Oh noes, we should go to church more...

(currently leeching the rest of Paper Eleven)

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

never ever want to see that. :shock:

Heh heh heh... Manga... Clone... Army...

Well, it takes a certain /b/tard mentality to appreciate some of Dan Kim's stuff. Oh noes, we should go to church more...

Hah! You should know that those who post on /b/ have no soul. We lost a tiny piece of it every time we saw 'teh Rei', torture cat, harlequinn fetuses and that raccoon with a penis in it's mouth (I felt like crying when I saw that). Now there's nothing left, we are hollow and laughing. (NSFW)

Oh yeah, is this loli?

MikeyTheCat · Qualificator Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

During my graduate studies, we had one older fellow who was a pastor going for a degree in geology with the intent of learning about geologic evidence for the age of the Earth in order to disprove all of it.

What's funnier than that is our historical geology professor also happened to be an ordained minister. Two men of the cloth on opposite sides of the geologic/evolutionary fence.

Put them in the same apartment in L.A. and I SMELL A SITCOM!!!

They need a hollow earth theorist as a wacky neighbour.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

At my undergraduate university, the resident geomorphology professor supported the expanding Earth theory.

MikeyTheCat · Qualificator Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

At my undergraduate university, the resident geomorphology professor supported the expanding Earth theory.

He's a buffoon, everyone knows nazi lizard people live in the caves of the inner earth.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

never ever want to see that. :shock:

Heh heh heh... Manga... Clone... Army...

Well, it takes a certain /b/tard mentality to appreciate some of Dan Kim's stuff. Oh noes, we should go to church more...
Hah! You should know that those who post on /b/ have no soul. We lost a tiny piece of it every time we saw 'teh Rei', torture cat, harlequinn fetuses and that raccoon with a penis in it's mouth (I felt like crying when I saw that). Now there's nothing left, we are hollow and laughing. (NSFW)

Oh yeah, is this loli?

I don't know what the fuck that is.

Quantum Coyote · Venter Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 221

At my undergraduate university, the resident geomorphology professor supported the expanding Earth theory.

Must have been UCSB :roll:

Dormin · Qualificator Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 23

this guy:

My God... what HAVEN'T furries already ruined for me? I've already had Moogles defiled repeatedly. :cry:

You think the treatment Moogles have gotten by furverts is bad? Just look at what they do to Pokémon... :(

Forget pokemon, look at what they do to things like Card captor Sakura, I mean 12 years old for gods sake...mind you cream the rabbit from sonic X is just as bad.

12? Oh goddamnit, now I feel even worse for finding that image which depicts Sakura giving herself an abortion with a wire hanger.

I never ever want to see that. :shock:

Then avoid POE as much as possible. Not even CYD can rival some of the images I found there.

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 218

Various VCL reactions on the 9-11 attacks.

Featuring French flags, gay furry characters, Osama bin Laden, furry view on war and military, and more.

Very special award:
NSFW "she's aiming at Osama"

I can give the second one with the cat and the guy a pass, just because it appears to have been done by some kid (and being such, the skill level is understandable and frankly, working with kids, they do the oddest things to deal with certain situations). As for the others......

Ebonyleopard · Venter Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 218

Older than dirt?

Just checking to see if he believed in evolution. Should've also checked if he thought that all the mass media had an INHERENT LIBERAL BIAS thanks to it's JEWISH CONSPIRATOR OWNERSHIP, but eh.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

MikeyTheCat · Qualificator Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Older than dirt?

Just checking to see if he believed in evolution. Should've also checked if he thought that all the mass media had an INHERENT LIBERAL BIAS thanks to it's JEWISH CONSPIRATOR OWNERSHIP, but eh.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Don't tell anyone about the reptilian and grey agenda.

bobby · Prattler Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 104

I remember a thread on SA long ago in which people took various shitty 9/11 tribute art from the VCL and molested it.

I took this: http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Cap/2001/SAD.jpg

and made this:

The artist deleted his whole VCL directory for a month over it. Also, it's refreshing to see a Lysozome image in the original post, he's one of the most classic artists who's been doing this shit for 10 years and hasn't improved since the day he started.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 473

Anyone have any idea where this one's from?

MagKnightX · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 312

Because, you know, the BEST way to get back at those terrorists is to flip off the Statue of Liberty and an... oddly... redone WTC.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

Because, you know, the BEST way to get back at those terrorists is to flip off the Statue of Liberty and an... oddly... redone WTC.

That thing is a huge target.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

First I thought that's a urinal with three black turds stuck in it!

And lessons...? What lessons are learned?
No toenail clippers on personal luggage?

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

And lessons...? What lessons are learned?
No toenail clippers on personal luggage?

Yes. That's it exactly.

Sixtail · Qualificator Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 30

Note, None of the GOOD anthro artists wasted time drawing off the wall crying foxes or shit in memory of 9-11. God I fucking hated VCL back then. Dead tigers, all sorts of off the wall shit with the tag line "In memory of 9-11"

Gotta wonder on the level of "You must die yankee!" would furries rank with terrorists.

There was one GOOD pic done by EWS that caught the moment when the morning shows cut to the news and people saw we were no longer 'safe"

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

And lessons...? What lessons are learned?
No toenail clippers on personal luggage?

The lesson learned is that the U.S. is still so touchey-feely-lawsuit happy that we think forbidding toenail clippers on flights is a safety measure, but that having air marshals on board would be oh-so-scary.

In my travelling experiences, and watching the show Airline on TLC, airports are an amazing display of cluelessness and self-centeredness. People will go get tipsy while they wait for their flight, then get pissy when they're too drunk to be allowed on board or, conversely, get upset because they didn't hear the boarding call because they weren't listening when the person at the desk told them pages are not audible in the bar areas. (Why the hell do we even feel we need bars in airports? Can we Americans not sit through a one-hour layover without a bloody beer?) They'll arrive early and decide they don't want to wait 2 hours for their next flight, then get uppity when there aren't any seats available on the earlier flight. They'll change flight plans like deciding to go to Denny's at the last minute instead of McDonald's, and get upset because that tripped up their whole chain of connecting flights and luggage transfers because they don't realize how complex routing hundreds of thousands of people a day can be.

The toenail clippers thing is like many other governmental policies... it means well, and looks good on paper, but is absurd in practical application. People think that will make them safe, but that having an air marshal on a flight will make them TOO SCARED! OH NO! WE'RE NOT FLYING IN CANDYLAND! We Americans are still getting used to the idea that life isn't all roses in respect to global politics, and that maybe.. just maybe.. we need to understand that.

When I left Germany, there had been some kind of threat at the airport that day. Our bus pulled up and was greeted by the sight of one of those mini-tank blockade runners. Inside, guards armed with AK-47s and armored vests nodded to us while simulatenously looking us over as we entered. Some of the decor in the balconies included other guards with high-powered rifles and scopes the size of a horse's leg. At the metal-detector, I was not only scanned, but patted down to the point that.. to this day.. I'm not sure I'm not engaged to one of the guards.

We were surprised, of course. But, were we mentally scarred? Were we so scared that we had to sue Luftanza for $85,000 in settlements just so we could get on with life? Hell no. It was part of the package of being in Frankfurt. Big woop. I sure as hell felt better about my chances of making it home without incident than I do knowing the blue-haired biddy in the seat next to me can't get all kung-fu on the pilot with a pair of crochet needles that they confiscated at the Atlanta terminal.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

When I left Germany, there had been some kind of threat at the airport that day. Our bus pulled up and was greeted by the sight of one of those mini-tank blockade runners. Inside, guards armed with AK-47s and armored vests nodded to us while simulatenously looking us over as we entered.

They don't use AK-47s (or 74s or any models in the series) in Germany since reunification... Guess these guys were the threat ;)

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Depends on what stage of the reunification effort you're talking about. If you're talking about what took place in 1990, the fact that I was there in the summer of 1989 might have something to do with it.

Of course, my knowlege of guns is Jack and squat.. and Jack left town. I know which end to point away from me and what part to pull on to make the loud bang-bang, but beyond that, I couldn't tell a Baretta from a barn door. My familiarity with the general shape of M-16s, uzis, and AK-47s comes from my childhood days of playing with G.I. Joes. So, when I see a guy carrying something like this:

I call it an AK-47. If it has that forward-swept clip, I'm gonna dub it an AK-47.

So, whatever the heck they were carrying, it wasn't a toenail clipper.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

I call it an AK-47. If it has that forward-swept clip, I'm gonna dub it an AK-47.

So, whatever the heck they were carrying, it wasn't a toenail clipper.

Well, maybe it was a H&K 33. They were the ordnance West German rifle for a long time:

Or a H&K G-41, introduced in thee arly 80s. They look like this:

There are more than M-16s and AK-47s around. :)

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

There are more than M-16s and AK-47s around. :)

Naturally. I just don't take much interest in them unless they're pointed at me. ;)

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

If you're talking about East Germany, they were sure using the Warsaw Pact weapons, with a Kalashnikov rifles as a primary infantry weapons. They would be also Soviet troops, but these weren't much visible at the end of the Cold War.

Also, their border guards were equpied in the WW2-era Mp-44s for a while (not in 1989, though).

Now, West Germany's military/police SMGs:

Im Jahre 1963 begannt man bei Heckler & Koch in Oberndorf mit der Entwicklung einer neuen Maschinenpistole für Bundeswehr, Bundesgrenzschutz und die Polizei.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

Now who spots the first furry picture in memory of the Indian Ocean area tsunami victims?

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

Who cares, it wasn't like it was in America so it doesn't, you know, matter. :wink:
And damn you ZenZhu with your relentless logic. :(

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

Sure 'tis not that important for youse yanks.... Maybe I should draw NEVAR FURGER TEH ENRON -pic... =)

Also... Why do we build sophisticated, expensive weapons systems when ya can blast away 70 000 people with plain water! =)

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

And damn you ZenZhu with your relentless logic. :(

Huh? What'd I do now?

Actually, the tsunami is important to me. My cousin and her husband are being evacuated from that area. They had been living over there because of his diplomatic work. They were able to take shelter in the second level of their home until they could be assisted. Their first level is under water.

In other news, Jet Li was there with his wife and daughter. They had to scoop up their daughter and run like hell, apparently. They're back home in Hong Kong now.

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

You don't think anyone in America cares about the tsunami?! No one in america has shut up about the tsunami!

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

Well, I was referring to you (ZenZhu) and your damned logic from this.
Schmeck, you must be confused, you mean to say "They care about playing up disasters for cash." I do believe it's important news and a horrible disaster, but now it's being used as a "shock the viewer into watching" tactic.

Edit: Noticed Google put up a Tsunami Relief Page, without whoring whatever it is they want onto the end-users. (http://www.google.com/tsunami_relief.html)

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

You don't think anyone in America cares about the tsunami?! No one in america has shut up about the tsunami!

As John F. Harris and Robin Wright of the Washington Post cannily note, US President George W. Bush has missed an important opportunity to reach out to the Muslims of Indonesia. The Bush administration at first pledged a paltry $15 million, a mysteriously chintzy response to what was obviously an enormous calamity. Bush himself remained on vacation, and now has reluctantly agreed to a meeting of the National Security Council by video conference. If Bush were a statesman, he would have flown to Jakarta and announced his solidarity with the Muslims of Indonesia (which has suffered at least 40,000 dead and rising).

Indeed, the worst-hit area of Indonesia is Aceh, the center of a Muslim separatist movement, and a gesture to Aceh from the US at this moment might have meant a lot in US-Muslim public relations. Bin Laden and Zawahiri sniffed around Aceh in hopes of recruiting operatives there, being experts in fishing in troubled waters. Doesn't the US want to outflank al-Qaeda? As it is, the president of the United States is invisible and on vacation (unlike several European heads of state), and could think of nothing better to do than announce a paltry pledge.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

You don't think anyone in America cares about the tsunami?! No one in america has shut up about the tsunami!

As John F. Harris and Robin Wright of the Washington Post cannily note, US President George W. Bush has missed an important opportunity to reach out to the Muslims of Indonesia. The Bush administration at first pledged a paltry $15 million, a mysteriously chintzy response to what was obviously an enormous calamity. Bush himself remained on vacation, and now has reluctantly agreed to a meeting of the National Security Council by video conference. If Bush were a statesman, he would have flown to Jakarta and announced his solidarity with the Muslims of Indonesia (which has suffered at least 40,000 dead and rising).

Indeed, the worst-hit area of Indonesia is Aceh, the center of a Muslim separatist movement, and a gesture to Aceh from the US at this moment might have meant a lot in US-Muslim public relations. Bin Laden and Zawahiri sniffed around Aceh in hopes of recruiting operatives there, being experts in fishing in troubled waters. Doesn't the US want to outflank al-Qaeda? As it is, the president of the United States is invisible and on vacation (unlike several European heads of state), and could think of nothing better to do than announce a paltry pledge.

See, this is a situaition where Bush's pigheadedness in the face of the proper thing to do really shows. Instead of seizing the opportunity to help strengthen his and our political position in the world, he displays the mindset that the deaths of some 40,000 foreigners don't really matter because they're from dirt poor countries we wouldn't think about anyway.

The caveat here is I feel the same way, and I think most Americans would agree. Of course it was a horrible thing, and of course we care, but no one is losing sleep over it when thousands die in Turkey or India or any other overpopulated and impoverished country, because what have we really lost? And let's be truly honest here. Bush's failing isn't that he's being more callous than the rest of us, it's that he's being too honest about it, too lazy to put up that front because unlike other world leaders he doesn't feel the rest of the world's opinions matter. Which they don't, not really (because if they really, really mattered to your survival as an entity, then that just means you're weak), but the absolute best thing you can do as a world leader is make the proper political motions so that they at least think they do.

His political stupidity disgusts me, but I understand where he's coming from. I'm not losing any sleep over it, and neither is he.

Rural Pimp · Rasophore Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 69

Curious George W. Bush is not on vacation. He have now emptied the coffers of USAID and come up with $35 million. Relief efforts are being coordinated between the US, Japan, Australia and India. The Navy and a Marine Expeditionary Force is on its way. And this thread is dangerously off-topic.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

Few cities here lost new year fireworks... =(
Money goes to victims instead!
Dammit, I wanna see money blown in the air! How will I now know when
new year begins! I'll lose sleep over this tragedy! =)

Okay, someone seek out more 9-11 pics to get this back on track!

I found one..

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Few cities here lost new year fireworks... =(
Money goes to victims instead!
Dammit, I wanna see money blown in the air! How will I now know when
new year begins! I'll lose sleep over this tragedy! =)

Okay, someone seek out more 9-11 pics to get this back on track!

I found one..

Not furry enough.

NOW BETTER

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Curious George W. Bush is not on vacation. He have now emptied the coffers of USAID and come up with $35 million.

HOLY COW! This much, while one F-22 stealth fighter costs a mere $237 million? One just crashed.

Fuck. Now I'm impressed. But, you know, it's always better to bomb people than help and try to get them on our side.

Flag bearing bear can testify.

The Air Force has estimated the total F/A-22 acquisition program for 277 planes will run about $72 billion, making it the most expensive fighter jet in history. The aircraft, known as the Raptor, is due to enter service in December 2005.