Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Because there's no Gonterman FF card.

SLaitila · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 408

Can we see a resemblance here?

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

He looks a bit like "It's Pat!"

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

I'm going to use my 300th post to state that IRL I'm a pretty good looking guy. I just suddenly felt like pointing that out for some reason.

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 365

Gonterman
Artistic Dyslexic (say that five times fast)

Fetish: Porn (poorly drawn)
Main Attack: Draw (poorly)
Special Power: Androgeny
Weakness: People with Taste

Rural Pimp · Rasophore Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 69

Maybe a little more like this....

David "Daveykins FoxFire" Gonterman
Most Dangerous Cartoonist

Fetish: Sailor Moon fuku
Main attack: Self-insertion fanfics
Special power: Mullet drawing
Weakness: MiSTings

BTW, where did the picture come from?

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

God damn that's an ugly fuck...

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Looks like the kind of guy that would keep a stash of stickers and Yu-Gi-Oh cards on hand to lure kids into his van.

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

I am suddenly thinking John Wayne Gacy v2.0.

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

Y'know, he does have a real "boy scout bad touch" look to 'im, doesn't he?

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Maybe a little more like this....

David "Daveykins FoxFire" Gonterman
Most Dangerous Cartoonist

Fetish: Sailor Moon fuku
Main attack: Self-insertion fanfics
Special power: Mullet drawing
Weakness: MiSTings

BTW, where did the picture come from?

Special power: Living fursuit
Weakness: Internet

And the photo is located at the Gonterman's very own website... I think this pic would be a good illustration.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

She looks like someone just pulled a gun on her.

I just realized one of the characteristics of Gonterman's eyes.... no reflection in the pupils/iris. You'd think anyone copying anime would incorporate those by default, but, aside from the very angular shape of them, Gonterman's eyes are characterized by irises and pupils with about as much depth as manhole covers.

Anencephalic Baby Jesus · Rasophore Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 69

I just realized one of the characteristics of Gonterman's eyes.... no reflection in the pupils/iris.

That's partially why Gonterman eyes always look so goddamn creepy.

Also, the photo kinda reminds me of one of those Monchichi dolls. I think it's the hair. But the Monchichi is cuter, and that's saying a lot, because I always thought those were some of the ugliest dolls ever made.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

I'm going to use my 300th post to state that IRL I'm a pretty good looking guy.

Lies. Donotsue's shown us all of your "artistic noods".

...I covered myself in lye to make things hurt less.

Presea · Coadjutor Joined: 14 Nov 2004 Posts: 71

After doing a Goolge Image Search on what the heck a "Monchichi" was, I erupted into giggles.

He does...resemble one.

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

You know I always thought David was just some mythical computer being no photographs had ever been taken. This picture has just proved me wrong and it makes me sad.

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

I just realized one of the characteristics of Gonterman's eyes.... no reflection in the pupils/iris.

That, and they're always fuckin' crossed to the point where they're becoming one.

DA · Vociferator Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 595

Is it just me or does 'furry' heck any obsession seem to morph more than 80% of the participants into fugly butter trolls?

Akhetnu · Qualificator Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

I notice 3 common Fanboy Factors here.

1. Why do so many furs have huge thick-framed glasses that came out of an army surplus depot? We have the technology to make thin frames, and even thin lenses, even for strogner perscriptions. I think we should start a "Furry Glasses Charity" to give them our used frames.

2. Weight issue. Duh. Probably from spending too much time on FurryMUCK and chowing down on junk food to drown his sorrows in.

3. Hair. I mean, how hard is it to just get a nice buzz cut or a bit of gel?

I've noticed that the furs who hate their human bodies and want to be another species are usually just too lazy to actually go through the effort of taking care of themselves.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Actually, Gontefetish now is something like this:

"face-disfiguring beating by more popular girls ... like Copper she wrears a mask to hide her scarred face"

"THIS ONE HAS HER FACE PAINTED IN PLACE OF HER MASK"

GONTERWOMAN

but what I'm replacing it with could be no less fantastic and maybe even scary

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

I'm going to use my 300th post to state that IRL I'm a pretty good looking guy. I just suddenly felt like pointing that out for some reason.

I shall now proclaim my own good looks.
NONE SHALL DENT MY EGO

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

And seriously, how many appearance-bashing threads are going to be made this week?

SLaitila · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 408

I shall now proclaim my own good looks.
NONE SHALL MY EGO

http://www.deviantart.com/view/9860845/

According to this pic I would try to pick you up at a nightclub.

YOU HAVE PASSED THE NEW SLAITILA STANDARD FOR GOOD LOOKS.

Congratulations.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

Nobody believe anything Rankin says! He lies, he's never seen me before in his life :twisted:

Rankin: show me your RL pic and I'll tell you if I'm sexier than you. That'll be fun.

I shall now proclaim my own good looks.
NONE SHALL DENT MY EGO

Oh wow. You're cute too :D

We'd make a cute couple. *nod nod*

Rural Pimp · Rasophore Joined: 25 Dec 2004 Posts: 69

I shall now proclaim my own good looks.
NONE SHALL MY EGO

Rural Pimp says you are good to go.

Bunnylover · Qualificator Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 16

I'm also not that ugly IRL. Corse I look like a 6'2" gay hobbit (if you can imagine such a thing) these days. Which I suppose is an improvement from the neo-nazi skinhead look I had a few years back... People were avoiding me in the street and everything. I could hear mothers telling their kids to 'stop staring at the strange man'.

But hark:
I can still see my feet.
I don't wear those beer bottle nerdspecs that half the furry scene seem to sport.
And I can benchpress my own weight. Well, I used to be able too...

Though without taking to much of the piss, it is kinda disheartening that so many furry artists are such fugly bastards. I mean, come on, gimme at least someone I might wanna have sex with!

Anencephalic Baby Jesus · Rasophore Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 69

From one of those Gonterman image links:

scantum

IT'S SPELLED SANCTUM, YOU MOUTHBREATHING FURRY FUCKTARD.

Josh Z. · Apocrisiary Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 47

Rankin actually evolved into a fairly handsome guy once he stopped drinking, geeking out over colecovision, and lost weight. Sort of like a pokemon.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

Rankin actually evolved into a fairly handsome guy once he stopped drinking, geeking out over colecovision, and lost weight. Sort of like a pokemon.

SEXY.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

My motivation? It would be my enjoyment over making a story that can brighten up the day of whoever's reading them, while not being all too saccarin like more popular stories in previous generations. (My philosophy, as you may have seen before, is "Disney Magic, Fox Attitude," which shows my desire to take the charm of more classic times and give them an envenlope-pushing twist) In these time and days in a post-9-11 world where reality can be so formidable that an escape is required, people like me are needed more than ever.

Gonterman believes to be some kind of a laughing stock martyr-clown in the war of terror... Or something.

Take this, 'I want a hit off your crack pipe Mr. Saddam"! (Note a gonterglasses.)

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

Guys, can I join your "Not a bad lookin' guy club", since I'm not a bad lookin guy?

Thx in advance.

SLaitila · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 408

I heard I have really really beautiful eyes. I kinda had low success before, only had sex a few times, mainly by ending up in a situation like that, because of the lack of effort. I went to nightclubs to get myself arsed, not hooked with a girl. When I raised the effort, suddenly I started to get girls and noticed, man this isn't hard at all. I know this issue is a taboo and shit on the internet, but guys, if you want to get some, try, and you will succeed.

MagKnightX · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2003 Posts: 312

As long as we are discussing our looks, I look, in pictures and from a distance, like I'm short. About 5'5" short. But I'm 6'3". It's the weirdest thing.

Facial scarring from acne as a youth (not due to lack of cleaning, though, I took and still take at least 1 shower a day. You'd think that teh furrays could do it too... it's only 15 minutes away from their spooge, and if they hung some laminated prints up in the stall, it wouldn't even be that) sort of prevents me from looking good, as does my layer of blubber, no matter how striking my eyes may be. BUT AT LEAST I DON'T WEAR A MASK ALL THE TIME

(P. S. my mommy says I'm handsome :( )

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

I can't remember which LJ community it was, but they were saying all furry fans were butt-ugly.
So I said 'no they're not' and pasted three of pics of myself and sat back and waited for the flames. I was extremely bored that day, and they kept me entertained for hours. There was a split opinion that I was completely ugly (which is fine by me), or that I was a person that pretends I'm a furry fan to be popular.

How about NO.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Venter Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 258

I look like a pile of shit.

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

We still love you!

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

When I raised the effort, suddenly I started to get girls and noticed, man this isn't hard at all. I know this issue is a taboo and shit on the internet, but guys, if you want to get some, try, and you will succeed.

Is it taboo ? I dont see why ...

ehh, anyway Im in the same boat, well probably more like you before. I go out to drink and to play pool and thats what I'd focus on exclusively.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

I can't remember which LJ community it was, but they were saying all furry fans were butt-ugly.
So I said 'no they're not' and pasted three of pics of myself and sat back and waited for the flames. I was extremely bored that day, and they kept me entertained for hours. There was a split opinion that I was completely ugly (which is fine by me), or that I was a person that pretends I'm a furry fan to be popular.

How about NO.

Pretends to be a furry fan to be popular?! NO indeed. Pretending to be a furry fan would be instant public relations suicide. It's really weird how furrydumb is imbued with an utter lack of sense of reality. Furry isn't cool or popular anywhere outside furrydumb itself.

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

Furry isn't cool or popular anywhere outside furrydumb itself.

Thats a very good point actually. I can't see how that would help you pick up a girl/guy or brand new friends for that matter in the real world after all.

Do I qualify as a furry if I have a VCL, DA, SA and only post here and Pinks Realm? I think so, yet it has nothing to do with the real world that I've draw cartoon characters since I was 4. This is just a list of websites I frequently visit.... Where is the line on becoming a furry exactly, anyway?

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Do I qualify as a furry if I have a VCL, DA, SA and only post here and Pinks Realm? I think so, yet it has nothing to do with the real world that I've draw cartoon characters since I was 4. This is just a list of websites I frequently visit.... Where is the line on becoming a furry exactly, anyway?

You'll get very different answers to that question depending on who you ask. This has been discussed on other threads, too...

I'd say you're only furry if you claim to be yourself. Furries love to make claims like "if you have a photo of a cat on the wall, you're a furry" - but don't let other people define you, at least not from something as ultimately unimportant as your recreational preferences. I mean, I obviously have an interest in art, comics and animated films with cartoon animals in 'em, but I have plenty of other interests as well... that particular aspect is not something that defines who I am. At least it would only be a very small part of the definition. Personality, job, family, gender, nationality, ethnicity, political or religious conviction or lack thereof; those are the things people mostly use to describe themselves - depending on the circumstances. They might throw in that they really like football or ballet or Elvis, but only as an add-on, unless circumstances dictate that that is somehow important (like if you're on an internet forum about either of those subjects).

If someone says they're a furry, to me it says that they have an overly large fixation on one itty bitty aspect of life... or maybe rather that they have little actual life and have let their pastime take over as the most important thing. That's not too unusual, as evidenced by other fandoms where people gladly define themselves as trekkies, otaku, Elvis fans, whatever... I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing - to each his own and all that. But still, to me that sort of focus on and identification with one thing is not a sign of mental well-being.

Even if you end up drawing cartoon cats as a full-time job, I'd say that defines you as an artist or illustrator, not as a furry. But then, "furry" to me has a lot of negative implications - we inevitably end up with the wholesale acceptance of skunkhermtaurpedoscattentaclerape porn... and who the hell wants that just because they like making paintings of rabbits?

BTW, it's the "furry" thing I think is non-cool. Drawing funny animals can be seen as cool at least in some circles. If you're a childrens' books illustrator or an animator or have your own comic book or somesuch, you can impress some people with that. But being a furry? Either people don't know what it means, or they do and are either furries themselves, or they, like us, know all the horror stories and the negative implications... not cool at all.

Eh.

Charisma, why are either of us online on New Year's eve?

Anyway, happy New Year to all.

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

I am the most beautiful man in the history of evar.

Akhetnu · Qualificator Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

I think 'furry' on CYD carries alot of baggage, and generally seems to imply some sort of fringe fetish that is dressed up with anthropomorphic imagery.

If you're into drawing/writing/appreciating art, stories or costumes involving anthro animals as a hobby, I think the term 'funny animal type' or 'anthro type' or something would be more appropriate for this forum. Although some would also call those 'furry' without the negative connotation that CYD and mainstream society seems to put on it.

I enjoy writing, drawing and appreciating animal and anthro arts of all sorts, and I like to practice and study the ancient egyptian religion, without any of the fringe kinks or pathetic antics that accompany many in fandom. Furries would call me 'furry' but 'funny animal enthusiast' is probably more accurate here. I certainly don't obsess with 'funny animals', after all there is more than one thing to life, even if those things overlap.

I've spoken to other furs and they agree with me that, sadly, too many in fandom ARE in it for the kinks and fetishes, and not enough are into it for the art and cultural aspects. It's kinda sad since if I want people to do the egyptian thing with, I have to make sure they wont hump my Anubis statue or carve my Stitch plushie into a makeshift flowbee. =@_@=

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Welcome Akhetnu nice post. I to enjoy Anthro arts and stories so long as their good such as Tall Tails which is a great comic series. You also study and practice the anicent Egyptian religon that's pretty cool even though I thought most of the practices where lost. I'm Coptic myself and wr're kind of a nice minority of Orthodox Christians in Egypt.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Wait - What happened to all of the self-praise wankology?

There is always a certain stigma attached to various things, much like walking into a Catholic church, and not being a pedophile... o wait

Charisma · Venter Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 234

Charisma, why are either of us online on New Year's eve?

Anyway, happy New Year to all.

I know, its sad isn't it. I had to stay in to look after my autistic little sister as I let my mum have this year. At least one of us has to supervise her at all times. It wasn't as depressing as I thought though, we had a two-person party complete with karaoke, party snacks and party poppers etc.

That is a very good way of explaining furry though, Paul. Makes alot of sense. I'd say I was an illustartor that prefers to specialise in Anthropomorphs, and not just the animal kind.

There is always a certain stigma attached to various things, much like walking into a Catholic church, and not being a pedophile... o wait

That made me laugh so much!

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

Welcome Akhetnu nice post. I to enjoy Anthro arts and stories so long as their good such as Tall Tails which is a great comic series. You also study and practice the anicent Egyptian religon that's pretty cool even though I thought most of the practices where lost. I'm Coptic myself and wr're kind of a nice minority of Orthodox Christians in Egypt.

Egypt is so cool :D

Except for their taxi drivers :(

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Except for their taxi drivers :(

Why are you never on AIM, hummmmmm?

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

Actually our Taxis are horrible mass transport is just something we don't work on as a people.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

As an associated.. I found a picture of Donny's model for all of his infamous drawwin's.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Charisma, why are either of us online on New Year's eve?

Anyway, happy New Year to all.

I know, its sad isn't it. I had to stay in to look after my autistic little sister as I let my mum have this year. At least one of us has to supervise her at all times. It wasn't as depressing as I thought though, we had a two-person party complete with karaoke, party snacks and party poppers etc.

I sat at home, alone, for no other reason that I couldn't be arsed to try and arrange anything or even find out if someone else had something going that I could invite myself to. This was the first New Year's eve I wasn't at a party/dinner... and the odd thing is I didn't mind. I enjoyed a nice quiet evening at home. It was just an unusual day to do that.

That is a very good way of explaining furry though, Paul. Makes alot of sense. I'd say I was an illustartor that prefers to specialise in Anthropomorphs, and not just the animal kind.

The funny thing is, for all furrydumb's claims that "furry" is about all manner of anthropomorphics - it really isn't. Most artists who draw "funny animals" are never thought of as furry artists, not even by furries. Like mouse said in another thread, by now "furry" is hardly even about cartoon animals anymore - it's about the furries themselves. One big self-insertion fanfic gone horribly wrong.

Akhetnu · Qualificator Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 25

Coptics are interesting, actually. There's a church near me and I chatted it up with them about their language, which is rooted in ancient Hieratic. Although we do have plenty of ancient egyptian texts and such to work with on a practical level when reconstructing that religion. And all taxi drivers are indeed crazy.

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

The funny thing is, for all furrydumb's claims that "furry" is about all manner of anthropomorphics - it really isn't. Most artists who draw "funny animals" are never thought of as furry artists, not even by furries. Like mouse said in another thread, by now "furry" is hardly even about cartoon animals anymore - it's about the furries themselves. One big self-insertion fanfic gone horribly wrong.

Right the only exception (bringing up the whole 'furry as cool' thing earlier) is Im the type of spiteful person that is all about rubbing peoples faces in it :) Maybe not in the way you might think, rather, just using anything and everything as advantage... even a handicap.

Like a example might be: If I was a famous artist of some degree that everybody loved, I would personally make it a point to be as 'furry' as possible.. whatever the hell that means
Give people stuff they love, and at the same time inflict them with stuff they hate .. I'd be all over it. :)

or like if a furry was better at something than someone else , they could just hotdog that much harder IMO

I always like rooting for the underdog when it comes down to it :)

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Like a example might be: If I was a famous artist of some degree that everybody loved, I would personally make it a point to be as 'furry' as possible.. whatever the hell that means
Give people stuff they love, and at the same time inflict them with stuff they hate .. I'd be all over it. :)

Heh, I know what you mean. Having a bit of fun is good, but how would you go about it practical terms? I mean, if you drew a comic, if it had all the usual quirks found in furry comics, it wouldn't be popular to begin with... except within the fandumb. And if the comic was just cool and good and appealed to all kinds of people and was genuinely popular, your readers wouldn't care much if you went around saying that you liked dressing up in a fursuit or whatever to appear "furry". Most people don't care what the artist behind a work is like. It's well-known that Picasso was a right bastard, but that doesn't detract from his art.

or like if a furry was better at something than someone else , they could just hotdog that much harder IMO

But are furries better at anything, except maybe angstwhoring? :P

Stoneth · Vociferator Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 545

http://foxfire.twu.net/RLDavid.jpg

That's what David Daveykins Foxfire Gonterman looks like IRL? Frankly I'm disappointed. I expected fat and thick glasses but where's the mullet? Where's the baseball cap with the raccoon tail? I guess the legacy is bigger than the man after all.

Hmmm... I wonder if this would an appropriate time to post my Logic paper on David Gonterman.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

David has a shorter hair now.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/14129630/

Also this.

Surgoi!!