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m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

Is it just me, or the proportion of Americans posting on this site is much smaller than in the furry fandom?

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

What are you implying? Why I aughta... think about that some more... There's actually a bit of a lower American ratio involved with 'furry' in general, but I do see how it's even lower at CYD. It's probably the "take offense to anything and everything (except stuff you personally like)" effect, which seems to be strong in America, showing itself. Like how someone who eats his own shit would be offended at someone who jacks off to vegetable pr0n. In this case we have people who draw yiff-art and do the nasty in animal suits being offended at people who jest at it.

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

It's probably the "take offense to anything and everything (except stuff you personally like)" .

I disagree with that statement and take offense at your implications.

No, seriously, that's American culture in a nutshell. USA! USA! USA!

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

I disagree with that statement and take offense at your implications.

I disagree with that statement and take offense at your disagreeing and taking offense to my statement. :(

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

It seems CYD is like the international jet-set of furry-hate

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

See, that's where furries have lost perspective, man. They're all concerned with their image in America, what with C.S.I. and all.... that they've totally forgotten to save face on the global front, man. Jesus and the ACLU may love you, furry dude, but the rest of the world thinks yer a retard.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

I get the same impression as m_estrugo... Thanks (?) to the internet, many of the horrors of furrydumb are available to people all over the planet - but furrydumb itself seems to be a predominantly American phenomenon. Whether there's some deep-rooted reason in American culture or mentality for this, I have no idea.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

That's a good question. I would guess it's a number of factors stemming from aspects of American culture. First and foremost is the... dare I say excessive amount of freedom to look and act like a complete fucktard in public.. coupled with the very American outlook that a person should not only not have to bear the responsibility of deciding when to not look and act like a fucktard.. but should also not have to suffer any negative reprocussions as a result of said fucktardery.

Another may be our system supports these guys. They can live off of welfare for any host of excuses while pouring the time and effort that would normally be expended on gainful employment into role playing and making fursuits.

There's a few others I can think of. But, overall, modern American culture isn't big on holding a person responsible for their actions and practically encourages folks to mooch off of the system. The mindset that seems to prevail here in the states that you should be able to do what you want, when you want, where you want, and never be held accountable for it is fertile ground for furries. Couple that with all of our technology and almost excessive leisure time, and it's a petri dish for furry fucks.

In a way...... you could almost say furry freaks are the trailer trash of SF geekdom.

Bunnylover · Qualificator Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 16

I just think there are more nutter furries with computers in America.

I mean, I can honestly say I've never met a single 'Real Life Werewolf' mental case from Britain. Maybe it's cos we're just less inclined to pander to that kinda thing, and more inclined to tell people when they're being fuckheads. I mean, this is the country that spawned Simon Cowel. I mean if you wondered about in a strap on tail round here, you'd get your head kicked in. Frilly knickers under your jeans, ok. A Foxes tail, NO! That's my angle on it.

EDIT: What ZenZhu said.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

That's a good question. I would guess it's a number of factors stemming from aspects of American culture. First and foremost is the... dare I say excessive amount of freedom to look and act like a complete fucktard in public.. coupled with the very American outlook that a person should not only not have to bear the responsibility of deciding when to not look and act like a fucktard.. but should also not have to suffer any negative reprocussions as a result of said fucktardery.

Another may be our system supports these guys. They can live off of welfare for any host of excuses while pouring the time and effort that would normally be expended on gainful employment into role playing and making fursuits.

There's a few others I can think of. But, overall, modern American culture isn't big on holding a person responsible for their actions and practically encourages folks to mooch off of the system. The mindset that seems to prevail here in the states that you should be able to do what you want, when you want, where you want, and never be held accountable for it is fertile ground for furries. Couple that with all of our technology and almost excessive leisure time, and it's a petri dish for furry fucks.

In a way...... you could almost say furry freaks are the trailer trash of SF geekdom.

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subversive · Prattler Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 180

Another may be our system supports these guys. They can live off of welfare for any host of excuses while pouring the time and effort that would normally be expended on gainful employment into role playing and making fursuits.

I was all smiles when I read that Foxwolfie Galen exists on welfare.. That gives me a big warm and fuzzy. (From the article on him in the Library section of this website) I remember once riding with a bunch of furs somewhere at a con, and one of them lost their foodstamps in the car seat.

I also feel (and this is not really based on any real research or anything) that a lot of furries seem to have gotten their starts off American animations like Robin Hood, Secret of NIMH, etc... Plus furry did sort of start in the Southern California area, which is a fertile ground for all kinds of weirdness.

Also, since furry started in the US, the websites are in English, causing English-speakers to find them before non-English speakers, who create their own websites, newsgroup posts, etc, rinse wash repeat.

Plus the US is just a really big place, so statistically we'd have more crazies anyway. Compared to the other large-population areas such as India and China, we have a lot more disposable income to spend on computers and internet access and Rescue Rangers porn.

Also I think a lot of the new people entering furry seem to be lonely kids rejected from their high school communities living in BFE. I dont know what the equivilent of HS would be in other countries, but American high schools aren't very fun places to be if you're an outcast. Plus, we have a whole lot of BFE.

Combine all that, throw it into a vat with the good-ol American Values Zen mentioned above, and the end result: Furry.

Either that or its just all the oversexed animal spirits chose to be reincarnated as fat American computer scientists for some reason. (YES INDEED)

(BFE = Stupid slang for "middle of nowhere")

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Maybe it's cos we're just less inclined to pander to that kinda thing, and more inclined to tell people when they're being fuckheads.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell, I think. In America, if someone's a fuckhead, we're not supposed to tell them.. because that would make them feel bad. Plus, it's not their fault they're a fuckhead. It's the schools. It's their parents. They don't have the right medication for their fuckheadedness.

Sometimes, America... a fuckhead is a fuckhead by his own hand.. and he needs to be told so.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

At least Chinese gvmnt together with Google have taken firm actions to make sure no one goes to
the subversive furry sites!
Or to any with naughty news about chinese politcs either...

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

That's one reason I think I've concluded Japanese > Chinese for trying to attain some level of fluency. If I'm ever over in Asia for business related to whatever fluency I attain, at least in Japan I wouldn't be in a third-world, communist country.

And toilets. Japanese food is a lot less likely to mess with my innards than Chinese food. And at least if I'm in Japan, I can run to a toilet that greets me, sings to me, and warms my butt (at least if I play the ignorant foreigner and ask for an "American" toilet) rather than a cinder block poised over a bucket.

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

My father would say that America has the most furries because it's a weak country with no culture of it's own and home to stupid kids who need to leave him alone. Of course he has every Frank Sinatra album ever made and drives an SUV so he's a little fucked up. I just think that America is insane in some ways and is unable to just say "You suck moron get out of that fursuit or I'll kick your teeth in." We just want to leave people alone and some times it causes alot of harm.

The New Meat · Vociferator Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Posts: 660

WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!?!?!

RailFoxen · Venter Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 251

Isn't it in vogue for the foreign community to hate America? First the Socialists, then the British, and now the British Socialist furries...

Dammit! You do not have a right to not be offended! Furries may well be the symbollically perfect poster children for everything wrong in America!

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

Dammit! You do not have a right to not be offended! Furries may well be the symbollically perfect poster children for everything wrong in America!

Because as we all know, these horrible flaws exist only in America and nowhere else. :roll:

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I never really thought about that paradox with furries... folks that go out of their way to offend others on occasion ("squick the mundanes") yet, themselves, expect to not be confronted with things that offend them.

Ah, t'hell with furries.... y'all seen that thar new Rumble Roses game? Gots sum big titties thar.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

Maybe it's cos we're just less inclined to pander to that kinda thing, and more inclined to tell people when they're being fuckheads.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell, I think. In America, if someone's a fuckhead, we're not supposed to tell them.. because that would make them feel bad. Plus, it's not their fault they're a fuckhead. It's the schools. It's their parents. They don't have the right medication for their fuckheadedness.

The freedom to do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt others is good and great and laudable... and that's what America is about... but personal freedom used to go hand-in-hand with personal responsibility. What became of observing a minimum of decorum when out in public? Has the prevalent victim culture made so many people simply discard personal responsibility?

Being told that you're out of line is not necessarily a bad thing... it just might make you reflect and prevent the development towards becoming a furry or a serial killer or whatnot. That's the downside of great personal freedom, I guess: unwillingness to be so presumptuous as to tell others that they might be doing something really, really stupid. But hey, the existence of furrydumb is a small price to pay for general liberty of thought and conduct for all.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

I never really thought about that paradox with furries... folks that go out of their way to offend others on occasion ("squick the mundanes") yet, themselves, expect to not be confronted with things that offend them.

Ah, t'hell with furries.... y'all seen that thar new Rumble Roses game? Gots sum big titties thar.

I thought it'd be cool if they did something like that but with the Bloody Roar franchise. And bring back the sexy version of Alice! that overgrown Easter Bunny look ain't doing a thing for me :(

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I was always partial to the bat chick. I laughed my ass off when the first PS2 version came out and I noticed how much.... bounce.... she had. Unfortunately, the game sucked ass. I was disappointed with BR4... you'd think by now they'd be doing animated cutscenes instead of these lame still-shots with text.

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

I love America it's a great country. It's just that it's also an insane place.

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

RailFoxen · Venter Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 251

You'd be a little cranky too if your empire had fallen apart over the last hundred years.

WulfGar · Qualificator Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Posts: 4

I'm Scottish.

And I just want to say... Damn Brits...

Shmeckopolis · Vociferator Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 314

I just think that America is insane in some ways and is unable to just say "You suck moron get out of that fursuit or I'll kick your teeth in." We just want to leave people alone and some times it causes alot of harm.

Oh, we do. Problem is, when we do, they call us Nazis, yell at us, do it anyway, threaten to sue (and sometimes try to follow through with it), and start telling everyone you're anti-whatever.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 353

Actually, I think I've got a more accurate mapamundi here.
I've heard certain American leaders have use maps like these in the last years. Uhm, decades.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Looks above the bar. Yep. It's official, allright - although the other countries are larger than I like. If only we could shrink them..

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

The only problems I see here are.

1) There is no representation of Japan, which is odd. After all, they started a little thing called WWII (which we totaly rocked in BTW). We of course won, and then were able to reform and reshape their country into Ultimate Happy Funtime Wonderland.

2) Vietnam? What? I think that map might be a bit dated, though I can't see a map with such a prominant, detailed location of Vietnam in general use even back then.

3) In real life England and Europe are one piece, though to see them portrayed there would give the impression England was an island.

Now THIS is better, fairly accurate and free of extranious details. I would bring the US more to the center (for accuracies sake), and make Florida look more like a huge erect cock.

Quantum Coyote · Venter Joined: 12 May 2004 Posts: 221

You'd be a little cranky too if your empire had fallen apart over the last hundred years.

The Brits still have alot more empire then the French, or Spanish, for that matter.. Look at the commonwealth and the islands, and they aren't all shitty like former french colonies i.e. Vietnam, Haiti, etc.
The frogs do have French Guiana, and damn them, because it's an excellent place for launching rockets.

Bunnylover · Qualificator Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 16

Our empire didn't fall apart. We disbanded it cos we sorta bankrupted it holding holding off the Nazis for 5 years, 2 of them on our own.

Mastertran · Prattler Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 174

I love the French great place to live. And that's rare for an Arab to say that. So I'm a Nazi then for my dislike for furries this makes me bring up an old question. What is with America and calling people Nazis or Communists it just don't make any sense and it's one of the things that pissis me off so much about the Furry Fandom.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

I love the French great place to live. And that's rare for an Arab to say that. So I'm a Nazi then for my dislike for furries this makes me bring up an old question. What is with America and calling people Nazis or Communists it just don't make any sense and it's one of the things that pissis me off so much about the Furry Fandom.

You're persecuting them, and they're persecuting you!? Wait, only the American furries call you a Nazi? ONLY A NAZI WOULD SAY THAT!

The truth is quite simple: Most Americans are shitty at debating, and the furries are even less intellectual (for the most part) than the other Americans you might find on the internet. It's much easier to dismiss an accuzation or when you're losing an argument by turning it into a personal attack.

subversive · Prattler Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 180

Most Americans are shitty at debating, and the furries are even less intellectual (for the most part) than the other Americans you might find on the internet. It's much easier to dismiss an accuzation or when you're losing an argument by turning it into a personal attack.

HAY!!!@1 You wouldn't say that if you loved Jesus and Dubya, smelly foreigner. If it weren't for us, you'd be speaking GERMAN!

Go back to your home country if you hate the US so much!!

yes I am joking.

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

I love the French great place to live. And that's rare for an Arab to say that. So I'm a Nazi

Ah, I heard Vichy is a real nice town, too ;)

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

Ah, t'hell with furries.... y'all seen that thar new Rumble Roses game? Gots sum big titties thar.

My ninja fetish easily beats my breasts fetish - Bloody Shadow is my girl ;)

Also, talking about boobs, I don't really think this one beats the DOA and Soul Calibur series... and these are a better games, too.