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Rankin
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Posted: 2/5/2005 5:40:30 AM     Post subject: Get motivated, dipshit!  

Yes, you. I'm talking to you.

The forums are horribly stagnant, and the threads are horrible, at best. Trolling retards is not funny. Posting pictures of mindbending furry porn we've likely already seen is not very funny. This isn't really the best place to discuss where you 'hang out' with furries.

What we could do with is articles on specific folks you may have come into contact with, their oddities and craziness (yiff the otter), or anything that isn't the way the forums have been turning as of recent.

I'm asking you - yes, you - get your finger out of your nose, pull out a rogets, and get to typing.
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Posted: 2/5/2005 9:27:23 PM     Post subject:  

Im starting to think I have some sort of ADHD
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Posted: 2/5/2005 11:21:15 PM     Post subject:  

Part of the problem is a lot of our regulars now are from the fringes of furrydom, nonfurry, or too young to have had much of a history with it. Ones like myself know of some of the persons or events, but not well enough for it to be new material. Those that are in the know about a lot of this stuff are either around infrequently, or prone to being spastic and unintelligble.

The antics of the furry fandom can only be entertaining for so long before they either hit a new low, or you just get kind of tired of it. I think CYD's real value comes not in being a repository for documenting furry fucktardery for posterity, but in being either a duck blind for those wanting to observe the furries' curious behavior without getting too close.. or a halfway house for those finding themselves growing out of the fandom for various reasons.

Of course, it's a pretty entertaining and disturbingly alluring halfway house. Having come here on your way out of the general interest in furry characters or the fandom you might once have had, it's easy to linger too long and watch the puppets dance. There's the natural desire to see their antics catch up with them someday.

That day will likely never come, though. Occasionally, a furry poster boy has reality bite him in the ass, but only enough to make a ripple, rather than a dent. The old fucktards fade away and are replaced by new ones. Their fucktardery doesn't wax and wane, it just shifts from side to side. If you're hoping to see the end, it's not likely to come.

So, I think the natural progression among those here is not to seek out new things in the fandom to keep things entertaining, but to eventually assess why we're sticking around and, finding the answer wanting, eventually move on with our lives.

Kind of a furry detox center.
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Posted: 2/6/2005 12:05:46 AM     Post subject:  

Kind of a furry detox center.


Thanks for the inspirational words, Deacon Jonestown. Truthfully, I must admit that I feel rather much the same way - hell, I know of a few, other than myself who are considering 'Moving On'. I'd like to be able to say that I had more to offer than just being an asshole, name-dropper, and bringing Donotsue over from the foray.

I am considering a write up about a once-roommate who is, or was the head of FC'05, FC'04, FC'03 or whatever... but I lack motivation, when all I feel is hatred for this person.

...I need my methadone.
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Posted: 2/6/2005 4:37:46 AM     Post subject:  

The closest thing I've got to anything worthwhile is a tale of a P2P program called Soulseek.

Basically one day somebody on IRC was like "haha there's a channel called 'The Furry/Yiffy Room' on soulseek". Obviously as a joke we all joined. Greeted by with plenty of ^.^ faces. Anyways one of the people there had the username of Drathnott or something and he had the scariest files known to man.

http://box43.net/~dr_dos/Horror/ nothing is NSFW it's all just a bunch of screens of his files.

He had so much furry art that he probably could mirror VCL.

<nuero> * The_Rare_Duck grabs moose, twirls him around like a dancer and places a kiss on his lips, fodnling his tailhole for a second so he can taste it later
<nuero> whee bye
<nuero> * The_Rare_Duck runs by with a quick grope of nuer

that would be some of the amazing conversations there.
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Posted: 2/6/2005 6:18:21 AM     Post subject: Re: Get motivated, dipshit!  

Yes, you. I'm talking to you.

The forums are horribly stagnant, and the threads are horrible, at best. Trolling retards is not funny. Posting pictures of mindbending furry porn we've likely already seen is not very funny. This isn't really the best place to discuss where you 'hang out' with furries.

What we could do with is articles on specific folks you may have come into contact with, their oddities and craziness (yiff the otter), or anything that isn't the way the forums have been turning as of recent.

I'm asking you - yes, you - get your finger out of your nose, pull out a rogets, and get to typing.


FINE FINE! I'll get to work again! I have a brand new digial camera with a 10X optical zoom. I'll take a picture of my ass and post it here in CYD, that furry enough for ya?
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Posted: 2/6/2005 9:24:48 AM     Post subject:  

Anyways one of the people there had the username of Drathnott or something and he had the scariest files known to man.


I know that name, if it is who I think it is, I'm not terribly surprised at what you linked to. Drathnott? is Invader Pichu's 'Mate' One of two she has. (See how few females there are in furry,in furry a girl really can have a harem) and Invader Pichu is a beastiality advocate who hangs out with Ebolalupus.

http://www.salemangel.cjb.net/ That's her site, the writing section is scary and the art section kills computers since IP doesn't seem to have worked out that multiple pages are a good idea.
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Posted: 2/6/2005 10:22:54 AM     Post subject:  

http://box43.net/~dr_dos/Horror/Yiffyiffo-z.JPG

You have absolutely no idea how much I hate to see my name in that. Fucking furry porn past god damn anuses on sticks bloody donkeyhumping hell GONTERMAN kimmaugh nekid!

To the subject matter, I hardly think many of the regulars have much to contribute anymore. I've personally lost track of the furry fandom at the mid 2003 when I was mainly trying to get the fuck out of there. I have some juicy stories, although none of any known person and many of them involving people whose names I don't want to be linked to those crazy fuckers. I never got in contact to anyone outside of finland, basically because I felt strong dislike to american and german furries (which seemed like the majority at the time) right from the start. Frankly, I have no stories to tell, and will not bother getting any because I don't want to have anything to do with the greasy ass geek slobs from HADES calling themselves furry anymore.
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Posted: 2/6/2005 3:51:40 PM     Post subject:  

I'm not all that aware of what's even going on in chit-chat as o f late.. I dunno if it's declining content, or wit, or my own general inability (perceived or real) to provide those things or what but I've mainly found myself just browsing off-topic.. hrm
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Posted: 2/6/2005 5:33:59 PM     Post subject:  


http://box43.net/~dr_dos/Horror/ nothing is NSFW it's all just a bunch of screens of his files.


Let's see...bestiality, shemales, water sports, and a fuckload of furry porn. Yep, he's fucked up.
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Posted: 2/7/2005 12:56:27 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.salemangel.cjb.net/ That's her site, the writing section is scary and the art section kills computers since IP doesn't seem to have worked out that multiple pages are a good idea.

The art section kills my eyeballs. These abominations are fodder for the Atrocity Archive.

On topic... well, what ZenZhu said. But there should be a lot of comedy gold and atrocity tourism opportunities left in furrydumb. How tired you are of it is just a matter of how much you've already seen and/or experienced, I guess. Personally, I'm still entertained. Sorry, can't offer much in the way of what Rankin is asking for, as the sole person vaguely related to furry I've actually met is Steve Gallacci, and that was years ago, before I had any idea there was such a thing as "furry fandom". My contact with furrydumb is, so far, an internet-only thing... and I think I'll keep it that way.
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Posted: 2/7/2005 1:18:53 AM     Post subject:  


http://box43.net/~dr_dos/Horror/ nothing is NSFW it's all just a bunch of screens of his files.


Let's see...bestiality, shemales, water sports, and a fuckload of furry porn. Yep, he's fucked up.
'Pedofur' and scat as well...

Fuck.
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Posted: 2/7/2005 6:07:07 AM     Post subject:  

Rankin, we're not here for your bloody entertainment. If you're bored, rent a movie.

Or better yet, get out of that rock-quarry you call a town and move someplace where time is measured through a means other than watching brain-cells die!
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Posted: 2/7/2005 3:00:09 PM     Post subject:  

http://box43.net/~dr_dos/Horror/ nothing is NSFW it's all just a bunch of screens of his files.

THAT is some lovingly organized porn, that is.

Problem with getting that organized is all the directories you gotta jump around through if you wanna fap to more than one artist's work.

Yup.
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Posted: 2/7/2005 3:20:13 PM     Post subject:  

That's when the Fap file with duplicates of the best pics... um.... Nevamind... =)
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Posted: 2/7/2005 8:03:31 PM     Post subject:  

Dump them in a fap-of-the-night folder, eh? I guess with XP's slideshow, that leaves both hands free for fondling.
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Posted: 2/8/2005 2:35:59 PM     Post subject:  

If there is ever a case for abuse of a harddrive, that would be it.
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Posted: 2/8/2005 10:20:16 PM     Post subject:  

countdown until rankin spams that milkfed raccoon picture in here labelling it as furry porn

Ps: FUCK YOU RANKIN
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Posted: 2/8/2005 10:44:23 PM     Post subject:  

Dogthing Wrote:
Ps: FUCK YOU RANKIN


Ack, don't encourage him!! Nothing wrong with your intent, but do you know what that is short for?!

(You can show us your baculum collection if ya want tho Rankin!)
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Posted: 2/8/2005 11:08:26 PM     Post subject:  

Motivated by Ze Furrier's grand zpeech, I must announce zat ze refugees driven from ze SheezyArt, arre forming a new ghetto!


http://furaffinity.net/


Where Self Expression Lovingly Rendered Wolf Anuses Reigns...
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Posted: 2/9/2005 1:11:48 AM     Post subject:  

Motivated by Ze Furrier's grand zpeech, I must announce zat ze refugees driven from ze SheezyArt, arre forming a new ghetto!


http://furaffinity.net/


Where Self Expression Lovingly Rendered Wolf Anuses Reigns...


GodDAMN that's one poorly designed site.
Also, having been a volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitation clinic for nearly a third of my life, this scares the hell out of me. What kind of horribly run program would GIVE OUT MOTHERFUCKING WILD ANIMALS to some random douchebag, let alone some random douchebag who cranks out MOUNTAINS of eye-searing animal porn? That poor, poor fucking oppossum.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 5:04:11 AM     Post subject:  

countdown until rankin spams that milkfed raccoon picture in here labelling it as furry porn

Ps: FUCK YOU RANKIN




Ps: Not with Naylor's dick.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 5:41:19 AM     Post subject:  



GodDAMN that's one poorly designed site.
Also, having been a volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitation clinic for nearly a third of my life, this scares the hell out of me. What kind of horribly run program would GIVE OUT MOTHERFUCKING WILD ANIMALS to some random douchebag, let alone some random douchebag who cranks out MOUNTAINS of eye-searing animal porn? That poor, poor fucking oppossum.


Oh! OH! Now it's on!! That random douchebag is my girlfriend.

I can post pictures of me with the possum. It's OMFG HAWT
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Posted: 2/9/2005 5:45:46 AM     Post subject:  



GodDAMN that's one poorly designed site.
Also, having been a volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitation clinic for nearly a third of my life, this scares the hell out of me. What kind of horribly run program would GIVE OUT MOTHERFUCKING WILD ANIMALS to some random douchebag, let alone some random douchebag who cranks out MOUNTAINS of eye-searing animal porn? That poor, poor fucking oppossum.


That random douchebag is my girlfriend.


*Clattering lunchtrays*

ooooooooOOOOOOH!

=)
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Posted: 2/9/2005 6:29:19 AM     Post subject:  



GodDAMN that's one poorly designed site.
Also, having been a volunteer at a wildlife rehabilitation clinic for nearly a third of my life, this scares the hell out of me. What kind of horribly run program would GIVE OUT MOTHERFUCKING WILD ANIMALS to some random douchebag, let alone some random douchebag who cranks out MOUNTAINS of eye-searing animal porn? That poor, poor fucking oppossum.


Oh! OH! Now it's on!! That random douchebag is my girlfriend.

I can post pictures of me with the possum. It's OMFG HAWT


Dude, you really need to have a serious talk with your girlfriend.

Actually, I was positive that Micah was a guy. Learn something new every day, I suppose.


PS: Just curious, but what are you feeding it? I've seen absolutely no end of wild animals at my center that dumbfuck "animal lovers" found and thought they could take care of, only to bring them into the center so malnourished that they needed to be euthanized. I'm definately more at ease now that I know that the opossum is also in the care of a relatively sane anonymous internet person, as opposed to just his creepy animal porn-drawing girlfriend, but still...
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Posted: 2/9/2005 6:42:39 AM     Post subject:  

Err, wasn't MicahFennec the one with a huge archive of 'scat and beyond' pron who deleted it all to cover up some tracks? :?
(I'm not mixing up MicahFennec with that other artist everyone knows too.)
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Posted: 2/9/2005 7:08:06 AM     Post subject:  

I've been fucking your girlfriend? Small world.

Ok, I know, the joke's over now, but I just got here.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 7:47:37 AM     Post subject:  

I've been fucking your girlfriend? Small world.

Ok, I know, the joke's over now, but I just got here.


I dunno... I still think New Meat needs to kick Digital Boy's ass. Theres gotta be some kinda fisticuffs

It'd be nothing personal, of course.. Its just like, a law of nature or something ... :)
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Posted: 2/9/2005 8:28:01 AM     Post subject:  


some random douchebag.

That random douchebag is my girlfriend.


nerd fight! nerd fight!

Seriously though, will it turn wild like a squirrel or raccoon would, or will it grow up to be a normal pet? Post more pictures, I think its cool :)

Some girl in my friend's dorm (an agriculture student dorm) found a baby squirrel and nursed it back to health. That thing was awesome. It would run up the dorm walls and bounce all around. It was lightning fast. Then it turned wild and was released back onto the campus. Of course, the other squirrels on the campus know that humans==food so they're pretty much tame too.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 9:04:51 AM     Post subject:  



Dude, you really need to have a serious talk with your girlfriend.


I figured this was kind of an open secret on this forum, but anyway. In her defense, most of those are comissions. She gets good money for those.


Actually, I was positive that Micah was a guy. Learn something new every day, I suppose.


Most people think that. Probably because of all the ghey in her art, I suppose.


PS: Just curious, but what are you feeding it? I've seen absolutely no end of wild animals at my center that dumbfuck "animal lovers" found and thought they could take care of, only to bring them into the center so malnourished that they needed to be euthanized. I'm definately more at ease now that I know that the opossum is also in the care of a relatively sane anonymous internet person, as opposed to just his creepy animal porn-drawing girlfriend, but still...


The shelter people told us to feed it a range of stuff: cat food, fruit, fish, and dead mice (the sort you get for feeding snakes). It's eating so far, but I don't know much about possums myself. Since you've had actual shelter experience, does this sound like adequate possum diet to you?

The story is thus: She found the possum curled up on the side of the road one night with two broken legs and a big ole gash across the belly, presumably after having been hit by a car. She took her to some rehabilitation place, where they patched her up and kept her under observation for about a month. She healed pretty well but can't climb anymore. Also, she seems to be slightly concussed and thus kinda retarded, even for an opossum.

I suspect that this possum was actually rehabilitated and released sometime in the past, because she's got absolutely no fear of us hyoomans. I'm told that, unlike raccoons, opossums are actually really easy to tame and take well to indoor life, mostly because they're lazy and stupid and just lie around sleeping all day. The only times I've actually seen her move under her own power are when we put food in front of her. I'll see if I can post some pics of her licking my nose. It's kinda cute.

Annoyingnewageyuppieville? Are we living in the same city?

Err, wasn't MicahFennec the one with a huge archive of 'scat and beyond' pron who deleted it all to cover up some tracks?
(I'm not mixing up MicahFennec with that other artist everyone knows too.)


Yes, that's her. She found out that SA had started using one of her pics as a new GOATSE macro. Who's this other artist you're not mixing her up with?

I dunno... I still think New Meat needs to kick Digital Boy's ass. Theres gotta be some kinda fisticuffs

It'd be nothing personal, of course.. Its just like, a law of nature or something ... :)


SUH, AH SAY, SUH, AH DEMAHND SAHTISFACTION
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Posted: 2/9/2005 9:07:21 AM     Post subject:  

To revitalize the community, I propose: the CYD Theme Park! Staged random nerd fights! Hall of Horrors! The Lawsuit Waiting To Happen! Bike riding, the Electric Light Fursuitparade, and our only mascot vomits for pictures! The only theme park with a full area liquor license!
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Posted: 2/9/2005 9:15:51 AM     Post subject:  

I've seen absolutely no end of wild animals at my center that dumbfuck "animal lovers" found and thought they could take care of,


I have to agree with this just in the sense that - for years and years and years... it was dog, cat, rodent, goldfish.. and that was working so well for so long ...

Now its like "check out my bengal tiger" or " my South American anaconda"

Hey, fuck you, Tarzan. Im not impressed, get back to the Amazon :)

tho, then again, I have pretty RaDiCal views about this sort of thing, and dont even care for zoos and such :) Cities are for people and wilderness is for nature and never the twain should meet

Also, she seems to be slightly concussed and thus kinda retarded, even for an opossum.


I've never hit any animal in my car (cause I got skillz) but Possums are by far, the dumbest.

Squirrels and Rabbits and stuff will run out and you will see them see you, and then they bolt (or get confused and freeze). Even deer, which have earned an expression for not knowing whats going on - they still see you. They'll hang out on the side of the road till they think it's clear then run for it.

Possums tho, will trot right out in front of a car and not even look at you as you screech to a halt right in front of them. No reaction whatsoever to whats going on around them.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 9:49:55 AM     Post subject:  

Gah, can't remember the OMGSCATANDBEYOND artist's name right now, I remember it was horribly crappy (no pun intended) with a name like "AlphaOmega" or something. Someone here is bound to remember, we've talked about him/her/it before.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 10:04:52 AM     Post subject:  

PS: Just curious, but what are you feeding it? I've seen absolutely no end of wild animals at my center that dumbfuck "animal lovers" found and thought they could take care of, only to bring them into the center so malnourished that they needed to be euthanized. I'm definately more at ease now that I know that the opossum is also in the care of a relatively sane anonymous internet person, as opposed to just his creepy animal porn-drawing girlfriend, but still...


The shelter people told us to feed it a range of stuff: cat food, fruit, fish, and dead mice (the sort you get for feeding snakes). It's eating so far, but I don't know much about possums myself. Since you've had actual shelter experience, does this sound like adequate possum diet to you?

Sounds good, just be sure not to feed her too much; opossums (with an O, regular Possums live in Australia, I believe) are the most sedentary creature in the world (skunks being the next laziest) and will probably get fat no matter what as long as you feed it every day. That's not to say you shouldn't feed it every day, but just try and keep an eye on how much.

Also, opossums love grapes, I recommend using them as treats.

I suspect that this possum was actually rehabilitated and released sometime in the past, because she's got absolutely no fear of us hyoomans.

Maybe. From my experience, some opossums just come that way, especially if they're young.

Annoyingnewageyuppieville? Are we living in the same city?

Possibly, but then between Filthypotsmokinghippieville and Annoyingnewageyuppieville, that described pretty much all of the SF-Bay Area.

Just out of curiosity, what was the name of the rehab place you went to?


I dunno... I still think New Meat needs to kick Digital Boy's ass. Theres gotta be some kinda fisticuffs

It'd be nothing personal, of course.. Its just like, a law of nature or something ... :)


SUH, AH SAY, SUH, AH DEMAHND SAHTISFACTION


Oh, fine.

Before anyone says anything, I spent more tome playing around with the fonts than the actual drawing, so SHADDAP.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 11:03:51 AM     Post subject:  

Gargoyle...NEVAR forget! =)

Ploppity!

http://us.vclart.net//vcl/Artists/Archangel-of-Death/Beyondxxxfurryporn/Happy_holidays.jpg
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Posted: 2/9/2005 1:22:53 PM     Post subject:  

lovingly rendered fox anus

Yep, thar he/shit/it blows. Sexy, in a "ram a spiked dildo up me, slit my wrists, and leave me in the middle of a desert" kinda way. :?

*Edit* Donny, that was ME that couldn't remember which freak. You can't remember me, and that makes me sad. :(
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Posted: 2/9/2005 2:18:47 PM     Post subject:  

Oh darnit... What a mistake-ah to make-ah!
I was sure twas Gargly's logo in the corner of me eye last thing before I hit reply!.
Musta been too busy copypasting and linking and marveling the shit. =)
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Posted: 2/9/2005 4:05:44 PM     Post subject:  

I figured this was kind of an open secret on this forum, but anyway. In her defense, most of those are comissions. She gets good money for those, which she doesn't give to me because she's a stingy bitch.

News to me. I dunno if the fact that money was made off of those horrors is really a grounds for defense. Choosing to take a comission for something freakish isn't really any less lame than electing to draw it out of personal interest. But, since yer a stand-up guy, I'll at least look the other way...... very quickly..... and keep looking the other way to avoid seeing any more Pink Fairy Lotus toiletbellies or ratmorph watersports.
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Sounds good, just be sure not to feed her too much; opossums (with an O, regular Possums live in Australia, I believe) are the most sedentary creature in the world (skunks being the next laziest) and will probably get fat no matter what as long as you feed it every day. That's not to say you shouldn't feed it every day, but just try and keep an eye on how much.

Also, opossums love grapes, I recommend using them as treats.


Good to know, thanks for the advice.

Just out of curiosity, what was the name of the rehab place you went to?


Not entirely sure, since I wasn't with her at the time. I believe it was out in Richmond but I'll check up on that. Technically, they gave her the opossum to release, not to keep. The whole keeping the opossum thing is...questionable. Aw, who am I kidding? This is California, you can't even keep a Goddamned gerbil. This is obviously flat-out illegal.

But then again, it really doesn't seem like this opossum stands much of a chance on its own.




Oh, fine.

Before anyone says anything, I spent more tome playing around with the fonts than the actual drawing, so SHADDAP.


Haha! I am SO badass!

I did not know you were an artist. I also did a take on the sitution but then realized that I won't have scanner access until Saturday, at which time the joke will be stale. Sadness.



I dunno if the fact that money was made off of those horrors is really a grounds for defense. Choosing to take a comission for something freakish isn't really any less lame than electing to draw it out of personal interest.


She once got $700 for drawing a bunch of foxes shitting on each other. In my book, that justifies it, especially since she took me out to dinner with it.

Not the full $700. But still.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 9:39:42 PM     Post subject:  

Hmm.... okay, THAT I'll excuse. I thought we were talking beer money commissions. I don't know if I personally could bring myself to draw that, but for $700 for about an hour's work, I'd definitely give it a good mulling over first.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 11:07:26 PM     Post subject:  

I will draw anything for 700 dollars. Anything.
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Posted: 2/9/2005 11:17:05 PM     Post subject:  

I should also mention that she's done quite a bit of research on opossums and opossum diet, so she's probably well-equiped to deal with one.

And in "questionable," I meant as in legality not as in that she couldn't handle it.


So, having said that, hopefully she's not mad at me anymore.:)
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YOU, SIRRAH, SLEEP ON THE COUCH TONIGHT!
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Posted: 2/9/2005 11:35:08 PM     Post subject:  

I will draw anything for 700 dollars. Anything.


... and you'll still suck at it
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Posted: 2/10/2005 12:18:18 AM     Post subject:  

Vitae: Proud administrator of FurAffinity.net ;D also proud CYD'er.
Love it.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 12:26:28 AM     Post subject:  

700 bucks? I'd sell my virgin ass for that!

Wouldn't hafta work but 2 hours a month! =D
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Posted: 2/10/2005 12:51:11 AM     Post subject: um...hello  

Figured that I might as well join if I was going to become a topic of conversation here, so that my mate of six years doesn't have to do all the work himself. ;P

You can all rest assured that I actually do know a tad about wild animals and know how to do research on their diets and taking care of them, so Blossom (my rescued and rehabilitated opossum) is receiving proper care. Just because I draw furry pr0n doesn't mean I molest my pets! :?

Please make an attempt to get to know someone before calling him or her a douchebag or creepy. That is all for now! :D
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Posted: 2/10/2005 12:53:57 AM     Post subject:  

...I, for one, always expect the worst from all people! =) That way I am never disappointed!
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Posted: 2/10/2005 2:28:19 AM     Post subject:  

...I, for one, always expect the worst from all people! =) That way I am never disappointed!


That's a good philosophy, Donny.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 2:29:03 AM     Post subject:  

Please make an attempt to get to know someone before calling him or her a douchebag or creepy.

But jumping to conclusions about people on the basis of their furry artwork is half the fun here!

And scat porn is creepy. Just sayin'.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 2:52:07 AM     Post subject: Re: um...hello  

Not entirely sure, since I wasn't with her at the time. I believe it was out in Richmond but I'll check up on that. Technically, they gave her the opossum to release, not to keep. The whole keeping the opossum thing is...questionable. Aw, who am I kidding? This is California, you can't even keep a Goddamned gerbil. This is obviously flat-out illegal.

Yes, yes it is. Plus, it's gonna be an absolute bitch to find a vet willing to touch it, or that's not going to have it taken away and euthanized. I sympathise with you guys though, as I'm well aquainted with the feeling of satisfaction one gets from having an opossum fall asleep in one's arms (because my rehab center is also an educational facility for the public, we have several educational animals that were both too wounded to go back into the wild, but also comfortable around humans, including several opossums).

Anyway, I was just checking to make sure someone at my center wasn't pissing (*cough cough*) all over the law and giving away animals.

She once got $700 for drawing a bunch of foxes shitting on each other. In my book, that justifies it, especially since she took me out to dinner with it.


And I just recieved a check for $300 for drawing someone's dog (specifically, a black lab... in STIPPLING. My hand still hates me). Unlike Micah, however, I still have my dignity.

Please make an attempt to get to know someone before calling him or her a douchebag or creepy. That is all for now! :D


While I retract the douchebag comment (which wasn't really directed at you initially anyway; I was more commenting on the rehab center's apparent disregard for the state law in allowing anybody to keep wild animals as pets), I still maintian that you are utterly, absolutely fucking creepy. No offense to either you or New Meat, but JESUS CHRIST FOXES SHITTING ALL OVER EACHOTHER IS CREEPY CREEPY CREEPY.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 3:10:15 AM     Post subject: Re: um...hello  

You can all rest assured that I actually do know a tad about wild animals and know how to do research on their diets and taking care of them, so Blossom (my rescued and rehabilitated opossum) is receiving proper care. Just because I draw furry pr0n doesn't mean I molest my pets! :?


Did we ever say that? Because JESUS, NOT COOL.

Please make an attempt to get to know someone before calling him or her a douchebag or creepy. That is all for now! :D


This is called the Bambi Defense. It's worse than useless and a horrible furry habit to boot. I mean, do I have to know Jay Naylor if I wanna call him a douchebag, or know EbonLupus to pronounce him beyond creepy?
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Posted: 2/10/2005 3:22:17 AM     Post subject:  

I can't fault the style or talent. But likewise, anything to do with Sherwood is CREEPY CREEPY CREEPY. But hell if I wouldn't do that for $700. YAY!
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Posted: 2/10/2005 4:56:32 AM     Post subject: Re: um...hello  

Figured that I might as well join if I was going to become a topic of conversation here, so that my mate of six years doesn't have to do all the work himself. ;P


Awwwww, man, not in front of the guys! I can fight my own battles!!


I still maintian that you are utterly, absolutely fucking creepy.


But that's why I love her. She's a little unaquainted with the culture over here at CYD, but she's still good people. She usually takes people's reactions to her art in stride, but the comments about the opossum got her a little upset.

Unlike Micah, however, I still have my dignity.


OH SNAP!

This is called the Bambi Defense. It's worse than useless and a horrible furry habit to boot. I mean, do I have to know Jay Naylor if I wanna call him a douchebag, or know EbonLupus to pronounce him beyond creepy?


A) It has a name?
B) The Bambi Defense?

That said, YOU GUYS ARE ALL DICKS I AM LEAVING AND NEVAR COMING BACK
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Posted: 2/10/2005 5:26:59 AM     Post subject:  

I'm a starving graduate student, and I'll happily draw just about anything that's not illegal (I will NOT draw kiddie porn or bestiality). Dignity is overrated.;) If that makes me creepy...well, so be it. *shrug*

Sorry to intrude on your territory, ol' soulmate o' mine - but I believe that I'm the one being criticized, not you! :?
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Posted: 2/10/2005 5:34:58 AM     Post subject:  

I'm a starving graduate student, and I'll happily draw just about anything that's not illegal (I will NOT draw kiddie porn or bestiality). Dignity is overrated.;) If that makes me creepy...well, so be it. *shrug*


None o' my business, but why upload these commissions for all to see in the first place? Or is it to attract more of these rarer, higher paying type of commissions?
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Posted: 2/10/2005 5:48:23 AM     Post subject:  

That's one reason - plus - I'm sure I'm going to get the you-know-what flamed out of me for saying this but I'm going to anyway because I like to be open and honest, heh - I really do enjoy drawing the majority of my commissions, and I'm not ashamed of what I post. Very little disturbs me, and I like to think of myself as openminded when it comes to odd kinks and fetishes - I tend to see off-the-wall commissions as an artistic challenge.;) Live and let live - if it isn't hurting anyone, where's the problem? If it offends people, they don't have to look - I upload my...more unusual...stuff in a clearly labeled directory in my vcl gallery, for the sole purpose of warning people that the contents within might disturb them.;)

I don't really take offense to people's negative comments about my art, I'm used to that and expect it with the range of subject matters I've drawn - it was the unjustified criticisms of me as a person, and of my ability to take care of an opossum that cannot be re-released due to her injuries, that upset me. (I don't remember who made this particular comment, but adopting an injured opossum isn't quite the same as buying a bengal tiger to brag to friends about having a cool pet - come on now!) ;P
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Posted: 2/10/2005 6:14:46 AM     Post subject:  

Whoo, after reading all this I sure am glad my girlfriend never drew any furry porn on the internet. She's been dropping off the furry radar in the past couple of years anyway, thank goodness. We've both doomed ourselves if anyone were to google us though. Damned furries ruining their reputation fucked all of us over. que sera sera. If only I could erase the past, blah blah blah. Don't know who micahfennec is. Back in my day I was shocked as anything to see a female in the fandom doing -anything-. They seem to be all over the place nowadays, tho.

If I could draw better I would also sell out and draw just about anything, 'specially if you were going to pay 100s of $$. I don't think any furry porn really is "bad" since I'm a flaming liberal .. and I -would- draw it if it was something that actually interested me. However i think it's horribly corny, thusly i would not draw it. Seems like an easy way to make money tho, drawing something fun and getting paid that much.

Anyway lady, just get used to it. The only solace you have is that you know it's not the truth. There'll be nothing for you in talking to this forum at all except they will be entertained by anything you type and you will get more and more frustrated with no one ever agreeing with you. Otherwise just accept the fact that connecting yourself to furry in any way, shape, or form is a ticket to torture and misunderstanding from everyone else on the earth.

I don't know if Meat understands this and secretly hopes you stray away from furry or what, but I know I do. Maybe if I'm patient this whole thing will wash over with my girl and we'll do something far far away from furry. But right now I have to sit here and hope to high heaven nobody ever abuses her for drawing innocent cartoons of animals.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 6:26:52 AM     Post subject: Re: um...hello  


A) It has a name?
B) The Bambi Defense?


OK SO I MADE IT UP ON THE SPOT

I was just exploiting an opportunity to make fun of the furries' tendency to bring out inane little sayings like Thumper's words of wisdom (IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY, DON'T SAY IT AT ALL OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT OK LAY OFF THE LAST TIME I SAW THAT THING WAS NEARLY TWO DECADES AGO) as a defense tactic and how utterly unintimidating it is to those trained in modern flame-fu techniques.

She is right though, as there is a line between atrocity tourism and being a dick.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 6:32:23 AM     Post subject:  

Reply to Viron -

Ouch...you sound bitter! O.o I don't know what happened to you or your girlfriend to make you feel that way about furries, but......

Anyway...as for the "lady, get used to it" comment...thought I'd made it clear in my previous post that I *am* used to it - if by "it" you mean criticism for drawing furry pr0n. I've been drawing it and selling it for...oh, about seven years, so I'd better be used to that by now!;) I've also been with The New Meat for nearly that long (February 1st was our six-year anniversary) - he knew what he was getting into and I don't think he's counting on, or even hoping for, change...he likes me pervy.;) Who knows, I may get tired of the furry fandom one day, but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon...I've been drawing "furries" since I was in kindergarten! :D
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Posted: 2/10/2005 6:33:43 AM     Post subject:  


I don't know if Meat understands this and secretly hopes you stray away from furry or what, but I know I do.


Well, la dee diddly doo for you.

We haven't been going out for six fucking years because I KNOW I CAN CHANGE HER BOO HOO. I love her, furry porn or not.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 6:47:51 AM     Post subject:  

That's one reason - plus - I'm sure I'm going to get the you-know-what flamed out of me for saying this but I'm going to anyway because I like to be open and honest, heh -


Maybe, I doubt youd get seriously flamed, but yeah I can respect that

While most would disagree, I can kind of stand by the 'don't look at it if you don't wanna see it' sentiment. Only because half the time I see this shit is when Im looking at other furry art anyway.

(I don't remember who made this particular comment, but adopting an injured opossum isn't quite the same as buying a bengal tiger to brag to friends about having a cool pet - come on now!) ;P


That was me, and it was just a general statement. Just voicing an opinion that was semi on-topic.

Anyway lady, just get used to it. The only solace you have is that you know it's not the truth. There'll be nothing for you in talking to this forum at all except they will be entertained by anything you type and you will get more and more frustrated with no one ever agreeing with you. Otherwise just accept the fact that connecting yourself to furry in any way, shape, or form is a ticket to torture and misunderstanding from everyone else on the earth.


jesus ! A tad on the melodramatic side, eh? Seriously, if you walk around thinking like this all the time then thats probably not good for your health. Hakuna matata and all that .. who cares.. damn :)

I hang out with a crowd that would probably have a pretty negative reaction to seeing some of the comics and art (really, A FEW) in my collection. I could care less what anyone thinks. I can handle myself ...NO PUN INTENDED
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Posted: 2/10/2005 7:03:27 AM     Post subject:  

I don't know if Meat understands this and secretly hopes you stray away from furry or what, but I know I do.


WHY DO YOU CARE

ALSO DRAMA IS FAST ESCAPING THE LIMITS OF BEING ALL IN FUN HERE

RESTRAIN YOURSELVES PLZ
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Posted: 2/10/2005 7:20:11 AM     Post subject:  

ALSO DRAMA IS FAST ESCAPING THE LIMITS OF BEING ALL IN FUN


Yeah, its going from Jerry Springer to Dr. Phil and that seriously sux
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Posted: 2/10/2005 7:26:34 AM     Post subject:  


ALSO DRAMA IS FAST ESCAPING THE LIMITS OF BEING ALL IN FUN HERE

RESTRAIN YOURSELVES PLZ


Okay okay...

Better now.

We cool? We cool.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 7:50:23 AM     Post subject:  

Someone kill this trainwreck.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 9:01:46 AM     Post subject:  

Ouch...you sound bitter! O.o I don't know what happened to you or your girlfriend to make you feel that way about furries, but......

I just seen people talk shit about being in furry fandom and I'm afraid it'll happen to her one day, that's all. I don't want anything bad happening to her via the fandom yet it almost seems inevitable.

Connecting yourself to furry is just asking for trouble, that's that. I didn't think it was a negative statement, just the plain-faced truth.

Look, perfect example - right now you are wasting emotional energy and time on this forum to defend your character. BUT It's futile to be here. Nobody's opinion from here matters - that is what i wanted to get across. Me=your side, babe. You were talking on one of your websites how you were getting upset at all the hubbub here. But really it should be nothing to you.

A tad on the melodramatic side, eh? Seriously, if you walk around thinking like this all the time then thats probably not good for your health

I'm never concerned about myself, mouse, just the people around me - my girl and my close friends. That's totally different. seeing friends get hurt or disillusioned - not cool.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 10:00:07 AM     Post subject:  

I still want to see more pictures of the Opossum being a pet. It'd be the first time I didn't see one hissing or being roadkill.

I second the whole "calm the fuck down everyone" motion as well.

But, I must ask, what's up with the toiletfoxes?
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Posted: 2/10/2005 10:23:09 AM     Post subject:  

oh btw mfennec
by "it" you mean criticism for drawing furry pr0n.

actually i meant "it" as in people thinking you were some kind of bad person or an animal molester or someone who shouldn't be trusted with real animals. I tend to think if someone's involved in furry that kind of accusation would happen all the time.

IOW, I was saying you should be as 'used to' that kind of accusation as much as you should be used to dealing with criticisms about your wonderfully disgusting porn collection.. If you were talking about porn then i say more power to you. I think the world needs more porn.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 11:59:45 AM     Post subject:  

Why do you continue to post here if
Nobody's opinion from here matters

Why not just take it to PM / Email if you aren't trying to stir up drama? You have failed.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 1:56:56 PM     Post subject:  

this made the bassist in me cry. :cry:
My baby... :cry:

Yeah and meat don't need to change his girl a bit! Being a furry should be no objection to a working relationship.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 3:48:52 PM     Post subject:  

Awwwww, man, not in front of the guys! I can fight my own battles!!

Hey Meat. Your testicles called. They wanna know when your old lady's gonna let you have 'em back. (Just teasin' ya, big guy.)

Whoo, after reading all this I sure am glad my girlfriend never drew any furry porn on the internet.

I'm glad my wife was never furry to begin with. I dunno if I could stand her after my own furryness started to wane. I am, however, glad that she likes some anime (wouldn't want to be married to an anime chick, either) and that I don't have to drag her to stuff like Hero or House of Flying Daggers.

She's been dropping off the furry radar in the past couple of years anyway, thank goodness. We've both doomed ourselves if anyone were to google us though. Damned furries ruining their reputation fucked all of us over.

If there's one thing I learned from my furry days it's get a pseudonym from the start. An' I don't just mean a catchy handle.. I mean a pen name that you put everything furry under.. and only release your real name to friends and those who have to write you checks under penalty of death if they ever disclose it. It's just now getting to where you can Google my name and NOT find a link to someone selling back issues of Wild Kingdom. There's still one link on Google that shows up in its list. The page itself is gone, but.. damn Google.. they don't update their listings often enough to have one disappear.

Yeah, its going from Jerry Springer to Dr. Phil and that seriously sux

I don't think it's even as semi-erudite as Dr. Phil. I'm seeing more of a Oprah/Rikki Lake/Jenny Jones thing... tear-streamed mascara and all.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 7:25:33 PM     Post subject:  

Yeah, its going from Jerry Springer to Dr. Phil and that seriously sux

I don't think it's even as semi-erudite as Dr. Phil. I'm seeing more of a Oprah/Rikki Lake/Jenny Jones thing... tear-streamed mascara and all.

hey, all i was trying to do was a. strike up other conversation and b. tell this girl to stop worrying about this since it really shouldn't matter to her. Somehow that turned into "i ain't a changin my baby" and all other sorts of shit that i never saw coming. i mean yeah i hope my friends stray unscathed away from furry, but it's not that huge a deal. I still worry but nothing i can do about it. they like what they like.

in the meantime lots of my friends are straying away relatively well which is cool. I've noticed an awful lot, i'm talking like a good 80%, of hardcore lifestyler type furries in my group of acquiantances that really don't like the fandom anymore. They all have exactly the same complaints we do and just hang around the outskirts of furry. It makes me wonder what the real percentage of furries out there are running away from it. I think it's definitely much higher than we all think it is. And if that's the case, how is this fandom even holding itself together.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 8:08:58 PM     Post subject:  

Look, perfect example - right now you are wasting emotional energy and time on this forum to defend your character. BUT It's futile to be here. Nobody's opinion from here matters - that is what i wanted to get across. Me=your side, babe. You were talking on one of your websites how you were getting upset at all the hubbub here. But really it should be nothing to you.

It's only futile to be here if you make the mistake of taking this forum seriously. Which you seem to do, viron. We're doing the online equivalent of having a chat over a pint, nothing more. You're right, our opinions don't matter. The flak furries catch does not come because we make analytic and/or derisive comments here, but because some furries can't keep their fucked-up-ness private but insist on shoving it in the face of the "mundanes". Yes, there may be a tendency here to assume that really weird furry art reflects the inner workings of the artist because we've found quite a few for which this is true *coughEbonLupuscough*, but no one here ever claimed that all furry artists are like that.

So MicahFennec enjoys drawing weird furry porn, she makes good money off it, the costumers like what they get - hey, more power to her. We just tend to go BLÖRF when seeing some of this material. That's the kind of reaction you must expect when doing those kinds of pics. MicahFennec says she's cool with that. No problem.

So what's your problem, viron? Your friends in furrydumb make their own decisions, and any flak they receive that matters would be because they behave stupidly in front of other people in real life. We can't help that. Having your writings or pics (whether it be your artwork or photos of you in your fursuit) commented on the CYD forum isn't going to hurt you. Unless you're a furry drama queen, in which case we'll observe and make derisive comments about the drama.

Bring on the pop corn.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 8:23:33 PM     Post subject:  

Oh hay guyz whats going on in this thread?

...on a more serious note. Sup Micah? :) I'm almost done with a gift picture of your new charecter, I also did another one of Clair cause I think she kicks ass.
...and for the rest of you guys? Oh hay drama *popcorn*

http://www.furaffinity.net/vitae/

PS: Internet seems to be getting rather serious lately.. huh?

PSS: Micah, don't worry, they make fun of everyone here. The secret is.. they're hunting for reaction. Once they get a reaction from their target they go apeshit with it. It's great entertainment, though I feel for you being the target..
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Posted: 2/10/2005 8:44:58 PM     Post subject:  

Viron is more of a target at this point, rooting from the higher level (Or existance as opposed to nonexistance) of "batshittedness." I don't get "offended" by much at all (I've seen horrors beyond the reaches of the fandumb), so these drawings are only a clue as to the person behind them. This is a case where the drawings do not entirely reflect the artist, but considering the majority of artists show themselves to be freaks through their art. The "safe" choice was to assume MicahFennec was a freak, which was disproven by a levelheaded response. If you're uneased by Micah's current gallery, you should have seen it before the purging. :D (pun intended)
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Posted: 2/10/2005 8:50:35 PM     Post subject:  

Bring on the pop corn.

I had poorly written that post. It made it seem like i was talking about art or whatnot. she said she was upset that people were making false assumptions about her character and that's what I was addressing.

i apologize for the odd trouble i caused and misunderstandings. i didn't know i'd be taken so seriously.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 10:13:32 PM     Post subject:  


Thread: beep... beep... beep... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE......
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Posted: 2/10/2005 10:20:38 PM     Post subject:  

I had poorly written that post. It made it seem like i was talking about art or whatnot. she said she was upset that people were making false assumptions about her character and that's what I was addressing.

That's fair. But 21st Century Digital Boy did retract the "douchebag" remark already.

You know, we're generally not trying to be assholes here. It's my observation that people very much get from this forum what they put in. When someone comes by behaving like a mental case or a troll, they'll get treated accordingly. When someone comes by offering intelligent conversation, they'll get the same in return, pretty much no matter what. Recently we had one furry calmly and politely explain the whys and whats of him enjoying shitting his diapers. And the collective response was one of "don't understand your tastes, but whatever floats your boat" rather than "DIE YOU SICK FUCK". Some of MicahFennec's pics are truly horrible viewing experiences (the pic with the numerous foxes defecating on each other that 21st Century Digital Boy and The New Meat mentioned unfortunately comes to mind - I fear it's etched in some part of my brain). But having read her posts here, we can see she's not some EbonLupus-like nutcase. End of story, really.

i apologize for the odd trouble i caused and misunderstandings. i didn't know i'd be taken so seriously.

No no no - the online equivalent of having a chat over a pint, remember? Here, have a virtual pint of ale. Cheers.
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Posted: 2/10/2005 10:40:17 PM     Post subject:  

O.O Wow...sorry to cause so much serious drama...I only posted here to let everyone know that Blossom the awesome 'possum is in good hands and not to worry about her because I know how to take care of wildlife. That's all... :lol:
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Posted: 2/11/2005 12:00:03 AM     Post subject:  

i apologize for the odd trouble i caused and misunderstandings. i didn't know i'd be taken so seriously.

No no no - the online equivalent of having a chat over a pint, remember? Here, have a virtual pint of ale. Cheers.


honestly i believe what this was is one of those situations where you can read someone's words but can't hear thier tone of voice. I'm historically very bad at communicating over writing my real "feeling" and it ends up looking like one extreme or another.

I totally understand what youre saying and agree with it completely. it's why i kinda looked back at this forum after ignoring it for a while. i was noticing these very things you're explaining about this group and i figured you all werent' such a bad lot to talk to.

btw i had no problems with her pictures at all. not my taste but whatever.
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Posted: 2/11/2005 7:32:46 AM     Post subject:  

O.O Wow...sorry to cause so much serious drama...I only posted here to let everyone know that Blossom the awesome 'possum is in good hands and not to worry about her because I know how to take care of wildlife. That's all... :lol:



It's not you. Certain people forgot to take their brain medicine, I think.... They also forgot to use capital letters.
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Posted: 2/12/2005 3:47:05 AM     Post subject:  

GOD DAMN IT, STOP SHITTING UP MY THREAD YOU FUCKPODS.
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Posted: 2/14/2005 3:40:09 PM     Post subject:  

FUCKPODS.

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Posted: 2/14/2005 9:34:36 PM     Post subject:  

FUCKPODS.


Why is it that everyone likes my made up words, but doesn't wantto go to bed with me? ANGST! ANGST! ANGST!
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Posted: 2/14/2005 10:17:39 PM     Post subject:  

You're not dicknippley hermtaury enough.
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Posted: 2/15/2005 12:00:49 AM     Post subject:  

You're not dicknippley hermtaury enough.


omg that is so hot. wait, no. I have no boobies. I am a boy... and I walk upright. I guess that disqualifies me.
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Posted: 2/15/2005 5:10:41 PM     Post subject:  

Okaay....

Rankin calls us out to produce...
I personally don't know what would turn your cranks enough to be "productive"...

Any ideas? Since I'm not "in" the community as deep as most of you, and not really a card-carrying furrie?

I'm good at what I do, I just need... direction.
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Posted: 2/15/2005 5:15:03 PM     Post subject:  

I dunno.. maybe this thing's run its course for a while. The furries continue to crank out bad art and drama queen it up, but it's just kind of going around in circles... no real highs or lows of late from what I can see.

You can only beat your head against the wall for so long before you pass out.
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Posted: 2/15/2005 5:39:18 PM     Post subject:  

We're just bored cuz Skukfucker's not here gheying things up! =)
Let's adopt a troll to amuse us!
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Posted: 2/15/2005 6:12:33 PM     Post subject:  

We're just bored cuz Skukfucker's not here gheying things up! =)
Let's adopt a troll to amuse us!


I said this before, let's get there Kimmaugh for a while ;)
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Posted: 2/15/2005 6:22:47 PM     Post subject:  

*lol*

that's crazy. I have about enough KAK just reading what you guys post. >_<
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Posted: 2/16/2005 6:58:26 AM     Post subject:  

IM IN UR THREAD

SHITTING IT UP
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