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Posted: 3/8/2005 1:23:38 PM     Post subject: Beanie Baby Birthing Boner  

Are you guys asleep at the switch or what? How did you manage to miss all this ridiculosity!?

[@Icey_Kitsune] basicly I took 3 beenie babies one by one putting them in non lubed condoms then put them in myself and "gave birth" to them >.<
Of course he makes a video and of course it goes public thanx to the miracle of irc, and Verix puts a soundtrack to it and yeah, this causes OMG DRAMA:
Session Start (evilsibe:icebluekitsune): Sun Mar 06 10:20:56 2005
[March,06|10:20] evilsibe: Hello.
[March,06|10:21] icebluekitsune: o.o
[March,06|10:21] icebluekitsune: why are you bothering me
[March,06|10:21] evilsibe: Am I bothering you?
[March,06|10:22] icebluekitsune: umm the video you posted it harrassing me
[March,06|10:22] evilsibe: I posted a video?
[March,06|10:22] icebluekitsune: your LJ
[March,06|10:23] evilsibe: That was just reposted from other ljs
[March,06|10:23] evilsibe: see go to (Link: www.ljdrama.org)www.ljdrama.org
[March,06|10:23] evilsibe: If you click that, which is a huge lj drama site
[March,06|10:23] evilsibe: it goes to jameth's lj
[March,06|10:23] evilsibe: and hes got it posted there
[March,06|10:24] icebluekitsune: i dont normaly go to LJ anymore cause of all the crap on it
[March,06|10:25] evilsibe: Why did you make that video?
[March,06|10:27] icebluekitsune: BTW this conversation is private if i find it on any public server i will sue you
[March,06|10:27] evilsibe: ...
[March,06|10:27] icebluekitsune: i made it per request of a master
[March,06|10:27] evilsibe: Fair enough.
[March,06|10:28] evilsibe: What was the request?
[March,06|10:29] icebluekitsune: for me to make that video
[March,06|10:30] evilsibe: Oh, one of your ex masters?
[March,06|10:31] icebluekitsune: no not ex and he is just a dom friend thati like
[March,06|10:31] evilsibe: Ahh..
[March,06|10:31] evilsibe: You know the beanies are popular now, perhaps you could make some money off them on ebay?
[March,06|10:32] icebluekitsune: -.-
[March,06|10:32] evilsibe: or not
[March,06|10:34] evilsibe: Did you expect that your video would be so widely popular?
[March,06|10:35] icebluekitsune: i expected it to be a PRIVATE video
[March,06|10:35] icebluekitsune: hence my not getting a public FTP
[March,06|10:35] evilsibe: So how many people did you give the video out to?
[March,06|10:36] icebluekitsune: 3
[March,06|10:37] evilsibe: Wow.
[March,06|10:38] evilsibe: Have you seen the voice over version of the video?
[March,06|10:38] icebluekitsune: i refuse to watch it
[March,06|10:38] evilsibe: Ahh.
[March,06|10:38] evilsibe: Do you have any future plans for other extreme anal videos?
[March,06|10:38] icebluekitsune: not for you or any of your goons
[March,06|10:39] evilsibe: :(
[March,06|10:39] evilsibe: Your anus is very popular you know.
[March,06|10:40] evilsibe: You really should consider doing a fansite.
[March,06|10:40] evilsibe: For your videos and such, you could make a lot of money :)
[March,06|10:40] icebluekitsune: no
[March,06|10:40] evilsibe: You know, diversify, birth different plushies.
[March,06|10:41] evilsibe: like even big ones :)
[March,06|10:41] evilsibe: So um, whos the lucky fur who came up with the idea for the video?
[March,06|10:42] icebluekitsune: not telling you
[March,06|10:42] icebluekitsune: i perfer to protect my friends
[March,06|10:43] evilsibe: What was your reaction to your friend asking you to make the anal birthing video?
[March,06|10:44] icebluekitsune: i can possibly get somethign from him in return for anything i do
[March,06|10:45] evilsibe: Ahh so you got something in return for the video?
[March,06|10:45] icebluekitsune: not yet
[March,06|10:47] evilsibe: Did you have any hopes for something in particular?
[March,06|10:47] icebluekitsune: not thor if thats what your leading up to
[March,06|10:47] icebluekitsune: cause i would NEVER get thor
[March,06|10:49] evilsibe: Why not?
[March,06|10:49] icebluekitsune: because i dont want to rip out my tailhole
[March,06|10:51] evilsibe: What was your reaction to seeing your video posted all over the internet?
[March,06|10:52] icebluekitsune: i was pissed at you and ten and this verix person
[March,06|10:53] evilsibe: Have you had any reactions from your friends about the video?
[March,06|10:54] icebluekitsune: most of them are pissed off and supporting me with possible legal actiion
[March,06|10:54] evilsibe: What legal actions are you possibly considering?
[March,06|10:55] icebluekitsune: i dont have to tell you thay
[March,06|10:55] icebluekitsune: *that
[March,06|10:55] evilsibe: Do you have any regrets about making the video?
[March,06|10:55] icebluekitsune: only letting someone i didnt fully trust get the video
[March,06|10:56] evilsibe: Thank you very much for your time.
[March,06|10:57] icebluekitsune: if i find this i will take legal action with you and sue you for harrassment aslo i will file
a restraining order for you
[March,06|10:57] evilsibe: Ok :)
[March,06|10:58] evilsibe: I dont take well to threats.
[March,06|10:58] evilsibe: So ill send you a link when i do post it
[March,06|10:58] icebluekitsune: thats fine just be prepared cause i could defentily use the money since im in collleger
[March,06|10:58] icebluekitsune: *college
[March,06|10:58] evilsibe: ok


No link to the vid of course, cause that would be HARASSMENT:
[15:06:19] [Icey_Kitsune] you lying sack of shit
[15:28:35] [Icey_Kitsune] remove the video at once or I will contact the host of your site and have the WHOLE site removed from the internet for posting a personal video that DOES NOT have my permisson to be posted
[15:28:49] [Icey_Kitsune] as well as your ISP for harrassment
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Posted: 3/8/2005 1:51:02 PM     Post subject: I didn't miss it!!!!  

From: icey kitsune
To: president@nothingkat.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: abuse if no action is taken your site host will be contacted and your site will be shut down

To the owner or Nothingkat.com
It has come to my attention that a video created by me has found it's way onto your website. The location is http://www.nothingkat.com/ten/babies.wmv
This video is private and I have given no one authorization to post it publically. Please remove it from your site. If you refuse the host of your site will be contacted and your site will be shut down.
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Posted: 3/8/2005 1:59:30 PM     Post subject:  

Wow... I'm amazed that guy was stupid enough to share that online, let alone make it in the first place.
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Posted: 3/8/2005 2:19:41 PM     Post subject:  

He's like the furry version of paris hilton.

Kind of hard to explain the urge to send that video online. Let's dissect this shit, shall we.

Giving birth to beanie babies inside condoms. From the ass. You could say that it's rather creative, not necessarily as sick as it could get in furry, but disturbingly creative. Also, from the transcripts, it seems as it was some kind of dom/sub play, and they shot the video just to remember a special moment. A special moment of toys coming out of the ass, though, but nothing that hasn't been done in jackass. What strikes me though, is the fact that he sent the video online, and posted it to an irc-channel (as it seems, correct me if I am wrong.) I believe he knew the risks of it being distributed to the wide spectrum of atrocity archives throughout the net, deliberately took the risk and went on with dramawhoring just to seek attention and some freshly aimed pats on the back. It wouldn't be the first time. He was totally digging blood from his nose by posting that.

People just want to push their fetishes further. Billy didn't even eat oat meal when he was a kid but now as a furry he eats poop, is proud of it, and god forbid the bastardly dastard who says it's "not really right". When someone says so, billy cries: FURSECUTION (or poopsecution in this case,) gets some buttfaces to pat him in the back and say damn those people for hurting you, then in Crush Yiff Destroy we wonder why he didn't just shut his trap about it, say it's EL DISGUSTO, thus after that some furry message group says that CYD is a sick and evil site.

It makes good old SLaitila straighten out his wonderboy cloak, lay down his bass of destruction and mic of mesmerizing growls and ask: "Dude, am I seeing a pattern here? Are these people delibaratlely making themselves the enemy of the planet?" After that, I say yes and grab a beer. Or eight.
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Posted: 3/8/2005 2:40:39 PM     Post subject: Re: Beanie Baby Birthing Boner  

Are you guys asleep at the switch or what? How did you manage to miss all this ridiculosity!?

Sorry, we've just been contemplating the notion that furry watching is less our duty and more of a cheap take-it-or-leave-it form of entertainment.

So, Sibe has the video? I wonder if I couldn't score a copy of both versions...

(and for clarification "Gay Faggotry Inc." is in no way affiliated or endorsed by Skunkfuckers Inc., its shareholders or subsidiaries.)






(.......................probably not.)
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Posted: 3/8/2005 3:50:18 PM     Post subject:  

I reiterate... we should start a club.

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Posted: 3/8/2005 3:50:47 PM     Post subject:  

Jesus fucking... AWW HELL NAH!

This does not happen, I'm in my happy place... this does not happen, I'm in my happy place..
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Posted: 3/8/2005 3:58:13 PM     Post subject:  

Wow.. just... totally fucking WOW. For starters, I can't imagine stuffing three beanies up your bum, let alone one. That's gotta take some kind of plasto-elasto rectum or something. Even some kind of mega-dump you take the day after a pizza-eating contest can't compare in volume to three beanie babies. I know your insides are squishy and stretchy and stuff, but that seems like it's still kind of pushing it. I like how three beanies up the tailpipe is a fun romp through subbyland, but taking on Thor would be a no-no. That's kind of like saying you'll jump a motorcycle over 20 cars set ablaze, but never 21, because that would be insane.

Second, I have to applaud this guy for one thing. It takes a TRUE FRIEND to jam plushies up his anus just because he likes a guy. Some people treat their friends to dinner. Other friends help the people they like move furniture. But real friends CRAM STUFFED ANIMALS UP THEIR BUTT.

Although, I could be confusing friendship with lonely desperation. Some furry stuffs plushies up their bunghole for some guy they like (why does it read like the "like" you'd use in middle school.. as in "I have these strange stirrings of romantic interest, but I can't make sense of them, so I guess it means I 'like like' this person)... in the interest of hoping to get something from them. I wonder if this person was hoping for a commission, or THE OTHER GUY'S DICK... YA THINK? Not to mention, there's no telling if this is someone they know for real, or if this is just "Internet like" with the hopes of getting a little action when they meet for the first time at a con.

Finally, I would say it takes a complete moron to videotape this shit and put it on the Internet and not think it would get spread around, but I don't even think this is a case of just being dumb. This whole thing is a matter of being dumb AND GETTING CAUGHT AT IT. If this video had spread among the plushophiles and the unbirthing crowd and gained this Icey Kitsune some small measure of acclaim and furry fame, there'd be no drama to speak of.

No, it's the fact that the attention he's getting is laughter and derision that gives rise to all of TEH DURAMA. It's not that people know he stuffed beanies up his poop chute, it's that people know about it and are making fun of him. If the attention was nothing but offers of textfucking and conyiffs, he'd be jake with it.

What's more, I love how he's going apeshit now that he's been caught on camera. I can overlook the fact that at no time during the process of putting beanies into condoms, lubing them up, and stuffing them in his Hershey highway (in case you're wondering, yes, I'm trying to use a different euphamism each time :twisted: ) did he think it was a bad enough idea to stop. I can overlook the fact that he never decided it was a bad idea to put it on camera. I can even overlook the fact that he never decided it was a bad idea to send it to the person that asked for it.

But I have to adorn his melon with a big ol' dunce cap for not deciding it was a bad idea to send the video/link to other people. He claims to have only sent it to three people, but I find it hard to believe that anyone that is a big enough attention whore to videotape themselves shoving bean bag animals up their fudge tunnel would be satisfied to just let three people see it.

If he really wants to go after someone for damages, he should find out which one of his "trusted" allegedly three friends decided to leak the video out to other people. Don't blame the bystanders because they overheard the message... blame the messenger for reading it aloud in the public square.

Moving on, I have to say this bit found here is some of the best ranting regarding furries that I've ever seen. Lemme post the highlights for you (sized down a bit since this is a long post to begin with):

First of all, if youíre going to be part of a subculture which identifies with bestiality at worst and complete mental retardation at best (which I will explain), youíre doing it because you crave attention. There are many other equally offensive subcultures out there (pedophiles, for example, are far worse), but itís only the furries that actually court derision with their raucious and shameless proclamations of their so-called ďlifestyle choices.Ē Youíre also the nerdiest nerds out there, worse than the LOTR nerds and the Star Wars geeks because at least theyíre basing _their_ fandom on un/arguably great works of art. And though there are say 50 year old virgins who would claim to be Jedis, they say so because they pretend at least to aspire to a moral code (not to mention intergalactic heroism) thatís discussed at some length in their favorite movie trilogy. You and your kind, on the other hand, have constructed a universe which is intrinsically flawed in its logic or imaginative beliefs. I could even ignore that, except thereís no aesthetically valuable product that youíve based your furrydom on; neither has your subculture produced _any_ work of _any_ merit. (And sorry, an anthropomorphic fox with a six-foot penis ainít Michaelangeloís David.)

<--snip-->

Your main fallacy, of course, is imbuing animals with human values such as honor, love, hate, pride, whatever. Animals donít fucking HAVE human feelings.

Like I've said before, the paradoxical thing about furries is they laud animal traits that are not actually animal traits but are, in fact, human traits projected into animal behavior. In basing their aspirations to be noble, crafty, etc. like the animals they like, they are, in fact, simply aspiring to embody human traits that animals do not actually exhibit in the way humans do. Some animals display higher intelligence in some areas. A blue jay or magpie could easily recall the location of its hidden caches of food moreso than the presumably clever fox or even humans.

What's interesting is many of the animal traits humans have attributed to animals are completely erroneous when compared to the animal's real nature. A good example is the "wise" owl. Human folklore attributes wisdom to owls because of their big eyes giving them a piercing gaze and seemingly intelligent appearance. In truth, however, their eyes take up about 2/3 of their head... which leaves very little room for brains. So, any furry using an owl for their "personal fur" because they fancy themselves to be wise is really just trying to personify a human characteristic mistakenly attributed to a creature for nothing more than its appearance.

In the end, the things furries like about their anthro animals are the human aspects, because animals do not actually exhibit or have concepts of right and wrong (you can train a dog to not pee on the carpet.. but it's merely responding to that training.. it's "wrong" to the dog simply because it will result in negative consequences), cleverness, nobility, etc. It's only human (mis)interpretation that leads to those characteristics being attached to the animals.

ďBut this is why weíre _anthopo_morphic animals!Ē you protest, tripping on the word ďanthropolollzmorphic.Ē You might also mention how hobbits (the Irish) donít exist, how elves (the Anglo-Saxon) or dwarves (the darker races!) arenít real either, although that leaves some wide gaping holes to shoot through. Any LOTR nerd would argue then that those species are variations on humanity, while A FUCKING WOLF THAT FUCKS OTHER WOLVES isnít. They co-existed with humans (in the LOTR nerdís universe, at any rate) and were (to varying extents) civilized. I would also argue that their respective historical myths lend at least _some_ legitimacy. (I havenít even read the books though, so it would be a half-hearted argument.) In the highly unlike event that youíve actually gone to college and read more than just YIFFING 101: WHY I NEED TO BE KILLED, you might bring up Caliban or Chaunticleer or any of the animal-beasts from Greco-Roman myth. Well, if you did Iíd shut up for about three seconds before wanting to kill you, but Iíve never heard that argument from a furry, and believe me, Iíve argued with lots of them. So I wonít even go into refuting that argument, although Caliban = uncivilized African, Chaunticleer = stupid lusty humans, and the Greco-Roman myths are various metaphors for Fate and human qualities OR (in say the case of Thucydidesí dog-headed monstermen) hallucinations based on hearsay and lots of drugs.

He makes a good call with the metaphors. I had never thought of that angle, but many of the animals in stories are used primarily as metaphors for human conditions... often used in place of humans so the author could criticize certain people or groups with their work but still claim plausible deniability in the event that those people or groups got pissed.
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Posted: 3/8/2005 4:25:35 PM     Post subject:  

I wanna see him give birth to talking Michael Jordan dollie! =)

Les play sum baskitball!
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Posted: 3/8/2005 4:55:13 PM     Post subject:  

I wanna see him give birth to talking Michael Jordan dollie! =)

Les play sum baskitball!

I want to see the old standby, Billy Bass!
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Posted: 3/8/2005 5:24:38 PM     Post subject:  

Nammuch. Internetting and distributing horrific videos of Icey Kitsune shooting condom-wrapped beanie babies out of his ass.

This is from another thread, but I decided to post here since the pic would be more on-topic. Bobby's statement somehow conjured this image, which is an atrocity in itself, then made worse by using MS Paint -

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Posted: 3/8/2005 9:33:29 PM     Post subject:  

Maybe he's related to the goatse guy.
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Posted: 3/9/2005 12:13:33 AM     Post subject:  

Maybe he's related to the goatse guy.
Goatse can put a wine bottle in his anus. (Thank you internet)
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Posted: 3/9/2005 12:19:43 AM     Post subject:  

Don goes goatse!
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Posted: 3/9/2005 12:24:01 AM     Post subject:  

guys i think we've finally beaten japan
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Posted: 3/9/2005 12:41:43 AM     Post subject:  

guys i think we've finally beaten japan
I dunno man, those chicks that vomit while having sex and then eat it, still freak me out more than goatse.
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Posted: 3/9/2005 1:36:40 AM     Post subject:  

Don goes goatse!
http://www.furnation.com/donotsue/skwrlworks/Dongoesgoatse.jpg


Where do you find all of this?
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Posted: 3/9/2005 5:20:01 AM     Post subject:  

Actually, I'm inclined to think that this whole thing is a troll. To think that one could post a vid of himself crapping out beanie babies and then turn around and act outraged that it's been reposted to hell and highwater sounds ridiculous. Someone so fundamentally stupid couldn't exist - they wouldn't have enough higher brain functions to be able to breathe unassisted. The LAWSUITE!!! is just so cliche'd.

I'm chalking this one up as a manufactured drama-whoring freakfest. Things must be really boring in furryland when the wierdos have to troll like this. And they call us sad.

I am now waiting for that inevitable "enlightened soul" that shall grace the pages of CYD to tell us how, instead of snickering at such a stunning display of stupid, we should be more tolerant and accepting within the fandom, and be nice and shut up, and all that...
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Posted: 3/9/2005 5:45:30 AM     Post subject:  

Since both mirrors are down, from the kindness of my heart and to perpetuate atrocity tourism, I dedicate this link to all the beanie babies out there. Test my uncapped ISP bandwidth you weirdoes.

Edit: It seems there needs to be some clarification, the voices were inserted afterwards by Verix. (Now that I see it again, it seems possible there's some furs out there retarded enough to seriously act that out.)
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Posted: 3/9/2005 6:02:26 AM     Post subject:  

Creepy beyond belief. I can't believe I actually saw that... and willingly clicked the link. I wasn't laughing like I thought I'd be.
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Posted: 3/9/2005 2:02:58 PM     Post subject:  

I am confident enough of the horror within that I do not need to click that link. But, wow... I agree, I used to think you couldn't get more casually fucked up than the stuff that comes out of Japan. But now, I'm thinking even they have standards.
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Posted: 3/9/2005 2:18:50 PM     Post subject:  

Holy christwagons! Well least they weren't all covered in shit!
Poor babies!
Never Ever buy a used plushie... online...
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Posted: 3/9/2005 8:14:18 PM     Post subject:  

Moogle: thanks, I DL the video yesterday and just got to watch it a few minutes ago. You do a good service for mankind by providing that link, and i applaud your efforts.

NOW when someone compares furry to sci-fi fans, remind them that the worst viral meme (or whatever it is you call these 'drop-dead serious but unintentionaly funny' internet things) that has come out of the sci-fi fandom was Star Wars Kid. Freaking onnocent little Star Wars Kid. Just remember that the next time you start to believe that maybe they really are all on the same level after all.

Just a thought.
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Posted: 3/9/2005 8:49:53 PM     Post subject:  

Good luck getting into this, it keeps hitting it's bandwith limit. =/

Squng found some more videos of Icey >.>

The two more "amusing" ones:
70mm Shell
Zeta toy, backwards
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Posted: 3/9/2005 9:07:18 PM     Post subject:  

I laughed when I saw the video. The voices are hilarious.
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Posted: 3/10/2005 2:07:14 PM     Post subject:  

I wonder if he still takes requests?

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Posted: 3/10/2005 4:23:50 PM     Post subject:  

whyfore does that grenade have bb pellets in?
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Posted: 3/10/2005 4:29:05 PM     Post subject:  

whyfore does that grenade have bb pellets in?


Um...it's a Beannie Grenade? =)
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Posted: 3/10/2005 4:44:55 PM     Post subject:  

whyfore does that grenade have bb pellets in?


Um...it's a Beannie Grenade? =)

I guess a beanie grenade wouldn't be that much of a stretch, eh?
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Posted: 3/10/2005 7:21:56 PM     Post subject:  

I guess a beanie grenade wouldn't be that much of a stretch, eh?


If it's too tight a fit, there's always these

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Posted: 3/10/2005 8:59:09 PM     Post subject:  

If he keeps putting stuff like that up his ass, he's going to have a blowout.
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Posted: 3/10/2005 9:44:49 PM     Post subject:  

He's just working his way up so he can physically stuff what he's metaphorically had up there already.

His head.
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Posted: 3/10/2005 10:37:09 PM     Post subject:  

He's just working his way up so he can physically stuff what he's metaphorically had up there already.

His head.


Indeed!
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Posted: 3/11/2005 11:53:41 AM     Post subject:  

I guess a beanie grenade wouldn't be that much of a stretch, eh?


If it's too tight a fit, there's always these



http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/newpiles.html
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Posted: 3/11/2005 5:00:17 PM     Post subject:  

http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/newpiles.html

A live shell up someone's butt. That'd mean all you'd have to do is tap it for it to go boom. So go ahead. Tap the shell. Cause you know you want to.

You know you want to... tap the shell.
So your can butt can go boom. Go Boom!
A boom-b-boom-b-boom-b-boom-b-boom.
With your guts on the wall,
A boom-b-boom-b-boom-b-boom-b-boom.
And your butt on the floor.
When your butt goes boom. Go Boom!
A boom-b-boom-b-boom-b-boom-b-boom.

BOOM!
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Posted: 3/13/2005 7:08:52 AM     Post subject:  


A live shell up someone's butt. That'd mean all you'd have to do is tap it for it to go boom. So go ahead. Tap the shell. Cause you know you want to.


Not unless you've got a hammer with a 35 foot handle lying around. =) And a chem warfare suit.
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Posted: 3/13/2005 11:54:35 PM     Post subject:  



Dr. Strangelove = BEST MOVIE EVAR!!!

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room."
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Posted: 3/14/2005 7:18:58 AM     Post subject:  

If it's too tight a fit, there's always these

You know the worst thing about this is that I got onto Icey's "private FTP" which was an unprotected microsoft ftpd hosted on his cable connection, and grabbed several more videos. One of them is a video of him using a dildo.

The video is called "70mm shell.wmv".

Yeah.
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Posted: 3/14/2005 2:53:41 PM     Post subject:  


You know the worst thing about this is that I got onto Icey's "private FTP" which was an unprotected microsoft ftpd hosted on his cable connection, and grabbed several more videos. One of them is a video of him using a dildo.
The video is called "70mm shell.wmv".
Yeah.


Wow, my keen insight into the perverse furry mind could be an asset to law enforcement agencies. They should have called me for that CSI furry episode. Then again, it seems like the chances of there being anything left in this world that "icey" hasn't shoved up ye olde cornhole by now is pretty slim.
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Posted: 5/7/2005 1:49:34 PM     Post subject:  

What does Icey or his fursona look like? I had this greatdiscusting
idea for another Art Coroner comic.. =)
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Posted: 5/7/2005 2:19:14 PM     Post subject:  

What does Icey or his fursona look like? I had this greatdiscusting
idea for another Art Coroner comic.. =)

I can't be for certain, but from the looks of it, he's a blue version of Tails.

How come ya don't do Art Coroner comics more often, anyway?
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Posted: 5/7/2005 2:46:35 PM     Post subject:  

I have so many things to droo... =)

Actually this Icey wouldn't be worth drawing...but the gag I have in mind just fits him so well!
If youse can, find me more known, uglier, fatter, older beany birther! =D

And I can't make too many art-comics because inside jokes were bad!

"Itís absolutely amazing how something thatís totally a not-funny inside joke magically becomes hysterical once you throw in some characters
based on people you vaguely know from an internet forum!"
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Posted: 5/8/2005 3:07:41 PM     Post subject:  

"Itís absolutely amazing how something thatís totally a not-funny inside joke magically becomes hysterical once you throw in some characters
based on people you vaguely know from an internet forum!"


Yeah, I know what you mean.
http://www.geocities.com/toonpimpj12/OP_43.png

Damn, forgot the beany babies!
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Posted: 5/8/2005 3:25:13 PM     Post subject:  

put NWS tags on there next time boyo
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Posted: 5/8/2005 3:36:46 PM     Post subject:  

Yei! Hoboy has joined! =)

I saved a few screengrabs of the "animation" -- for.... legal purposes... =)
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Posted: 5/8/2005 5:03:53 PM     Post subject:  

Yeah, I know what you mean.
http://www.geocities.com/toonpimpj12/OP_43.png

Damn, forgot the beany babies!

Well speak of the Devil. Welcome, Hobart Starr. I was wondering, why did you do color pics of Tabitha, but hide Donny's pic under the animation? More people would get upset over the Tab pics than of Donny, so it would make more sense to hide them. Or maybe that was your intention from the start?
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Posted: 5/8/2005 6:15:26 PM     Post subject:  

Well speak of the Devil. Welcome, Hobart Starr. I was wondering, why did you do color pics of Tabitha, but hide Donny's pic under the animation? More people would get upset over the Tab pics than of Donny, so it would make more sense to hide them. Or maybe that was your intention from the start?


I don't hide anything I draw. I was going to post the pic of Donny somewhere where everyone could see it.
All of the pics I draw on Immorakaki of characters of unreadable webcomics, did exactly what they were intended to do. And that is anger people who take stupid pictures entirely too seriously and maybe gain some publicity.
I've gotten a few emails from EWS asking me to remove pics, but of course I never do. I even had some jealous creator of some really crappy webcomic hack my oekaki board, but that is a story for another day.

I could have sworn this thread was about furry toys in some guy's ass.
Those videos are worse than anything I could ever dream of drawing.
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Posted: 5/8/2005 6:56:04 PM     Post subject:  

We'll get back on track with beany babies when I finish the parody!
Would show it tonite already but I hafta meet a deadline on a dumbass f r o g animation! =(

So don't close this just yet, Compy! =)

And Hob, ya can't make fun of people who don't take themselves seriously in the first place! =)

Yes, I was ment to be covered with spoo of a catlick bunny cardinal! =)
But are my comics really *unreadable*? Least they are not webcomics. =)
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Posted: 5/8/2005 7:18:47 PM     Post subject:  


Yes, I was ment to be covered with spoo of a catlick bunny cardinal! =)
But are my comics really *unreadable*? Least they are not webcomics. =)


I think your comics are hilarious. You should draw more of them.
You also have a pretty unique avatar.
unique = fun to draw in humiliating gay furry porn.
Let's just say that pic is a... um ...gift.
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Posted: 5/8/2005 9:45:51 PM     Post subject:  


unique = fun to draw in humiliating gay furry porn.


Ooh, draw me in your WONDERFULshitty style doing something GHEY. PLZ?
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Posted: 5/8/2005 9:48:55 PM     Post subject:  

It has to be said: you can't pwn someone by drawing them into your spooge fantasies.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 12:10:56 AM     Post subject:  

I think your comics are hilarious. You should draw more of them.
You also have a pretty unique avatar.
unique = fun to draw in humiliating gay furry porn.
Let's just say that pic is a... um ...gift.


Pissing off Schwartz and Ralph Hayes I get. This I don't get.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 12:58:57 AM     Post subject:  

It's quite simple really, he, like the rest of the world is gay for Donny.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 2:02:32 AM     Post subject:  

It's quite simple really, he, like the rest of the world is gay for Donny.


Hey, I'm not ashamed! :lol:

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Posted: 5/9/2005 4:15:28 AM     Post subject:  

It's quite simple really, he, like the rest of the world is gay for Donny.


Hey, I'm not ashamed! :lol:



Siggied. :lol:
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Posted: 5/9/2005 10:38:31 AM     Post subject:  

you stole my idea :(
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Posted: 5/9/2005 2:54:03 PM     Post subject:  

I can't be for certain, but from the looks of it, he's a blue version of Tails.

The first thing, the very first thing, in this joker's presentation of himself is this:

I love Mile "Tails" Prower and Sonic the Hedgehog Porn.

That really says a lot...

Oh and:
I dream of a better life and a better world where those who are different are considered better than the "Norm" knowing that takes someone to make the first step i have gone and decided to help the others in the same struggle my stepping up as well.

Yes! He admits he loves Tails and Sonic porn so that all who do will one day be considered superior to the "normals"!

Is this guy unfamiliar with the concept of Too Much Information?! At any rate, if loving Tails and Sonic porn defines your very being I'd say you're better off dead. :evil:
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Posted: 5/9/2005 7:34:27 PM     Post subject:  

Welp, Here it is! =)


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Posted: 5/9/2005 7:48:17 PM     Post subject:  

That's a poor Garfield parody... For unlike Garfield it is funny.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 7:55:30 PM     Post subject:  

Donny, I love you. That was awesome.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 8:19:39 PM     Post subject:  

Welp, Here it is! =)

http://www.furnation.com/donotsue/art/ArtCoroner4.jpg

Oh man, that's lolleriffic! :lol:

Say, an Art Coroner section in the CYD Gallery would be a nice touch.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 9:43:37 PM     Post subject:  

Welp, Here it is! =)


http://www.furnation.com/donotsue/art/ArtCoroner4.jpg


I love this, but I don't want to come off as a cock-sucker straight off the bat! Do you accept hand jobs instead?
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Posted: 5/9/2005 10:01:14 PM     Post subject:  

Donny, may I cream on you?

*love*
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Posted: 5/9/2005 10:04:03 PM     Post subject:  

Donny, may I cream on you?

*love*


What the hell is your avatar, now? Is that a horn, or a tail?
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Posted: 5/9/2005 10:28:09 PM     Post subject:  

It's her character's hooch.
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Posted: 5/9/2005 11:39:04 PM     Post subject:  

Hi! I'm Solei. I'm not much of a furry basher, so to speak, but I make exceptions for Icey.

I'm the host for Verix's website ( http://www.tehintarweb.com/~verix ), and Icey also contacted me. I had a chat with him, which I saved.. 'cause I found it amusing as all hell. He also sent me an e-mail (if I'm not mistaken, the exact same one he sent to Nothingcat).

Anyway, the chat log:

<13> *** Now talking to Icey_Kitsune
<13> Icey_Kitsune is wild_bill4@c-24-19-176-155.client.comcast.net wildbill44
<13> Icey_Kitsune on @#bondagefurs +#DownwardSpiral @#PacificNW @#foxie @#seattlefurs @#kitsune #Fox_Lounge +#Elen's_Playhouse
<13> Icey_Kitsune using alicorn.furnet.org Furnet in Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA
<13> Icey_Kitsune has identified for this nick
<13> Icey_Kitsune idle 37, signed on Sun Mar 06 12:33:17 2005
<13> <SoleiTixen> Hello.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> o.o
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> hi
<13> <SoleiTixen> I'm not entirely sure why you're being so adiment about having that video removed from my server, Icey.. there are a hundred other places that video has already been spread that has more bandwidth and more users.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> well I have one site that already taken it down and im contacting other domain hosts and webmasters and they are helping me with my request to put a stop to the video
<13> <SoleiTixen> I hate to say this, Icey.. but you can't stop this anymore, you're going to have to live with it.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> if I can keep it down enough ill be fine
<13> <SoleiTixen> Several of Verix's friends are going to Something Awful with this.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> if they post it there I can request that company to take it down if its already there and they refuse I can take legal action with them and have the courts take it down forcably
<13> <SoleiTixen> I apologize, but there is really nothing I can do about it.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> yes you can
<13> <SoleiTixen> Icey, you wouldn't take them to court over this video.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> as its your server its you who is responsible for anything on your server
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> no matter who put it there
<13> <SoleiTixen> Icey..
<13> <SoleiTixen> If you could take this to court and win, Something Awful wouldn't have made it to it's 15 user mark.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> its private property and NO consent for public posting has been given
<13> <SoleiTixen> Also, no copyright is present.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> underlying ste just like art
<13> <SoleiTixen> Can you prove it in a court of law?
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> I can prove its me in that video and that I never gave anyone permission to post it publicly
<13> <SoleiTixen> But you apperantly posted it publicly yourself, because it got all over.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> no I didnt
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> I gave it out to a few friends over IRC privately
<13> <SoleiTixen> Then, perhaps you should be talking to your friends, and not me.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> I did
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> he isnt my firend he lied to me
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> I already requested verix remove the file he has yet to respond
<13> <SoleiTixen> I haven't seen him around for a few days.
<13> <SoleiTixen> Icey, I would take this as a lesson and move on.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> I am no longer making videos
<13> <SoleiTixen> This is good.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> the person that leaked the video is now banned for #bondagefurs
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> and they have removed the original video
<13> <SoleiTixen> That's good, but I'm afraid you're going to have trouble finding all the sources of the video.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> if I can find the main ones that's enough for me
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> and your site is a main one
<13> <SoleiTixen> My site hardly has the bandwidth to host a file like that, Icey.. I'm not so sure I'm a main one.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> then remove the file or suspend veirx accout till he removes it
<13> <SoleiTixen> As I told you in e-mail, there are no terms of service to which I can hold him.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> but your domain service provider has terms of service that you must hold yourself to
<13> <SoleiTixen> I will check with my domain service provider, but I don't believe they have anywhere in their terms of service that my users cannot post certain material.
<13> <SoleiTixen> I've looked over the Terms of service, and have found nothing which would hold me personally accountable for the content of my users' websites.
<13> <SoleiTixen> You're welcome to look it over as well, if you like.
<13> <SoleiTixen> http://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?se=%2B&prog%5Fid=luckyregister&pageid=REG%5FSA
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> your site holds the content that I sk to have removed
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> Dear Sir/Madam,
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> If you believe a domain hosted with us contains copyright / trademarked material, please follow the instructions laid out in our Trademark and/or Copyright Infringement Policy, which can be found at: 'http://www.wildwestdomains.com/legalagreements.aspx' for reporting the incident.
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> Best Regards,
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> Roger White
<13> <Icey_Kitsune> Reseller Support
<14> <SoleiTixen> If the video is not officially copyrited, they will do nothing to help you.
<14> <Icey_Kitsune> all I ask is that you suspend the access to the video untill verix removes it
<14> <Icey_Kitsune> and I know that is possible
<14> <SoleiTixen> Not with my current web server software, actually, it isn't.
<14> <Icey_Kitsune> then please move the file or rename it untill verix removes it
<14> <SoleiTixen> I'll let Verix handle that.


To be honest, I don't know if anyone went to something awful with the video file. I kinda hoped someone would, though.

Verix eventually "took the file down"- he renamed it, and as I look now, it's no longer on his site. Shame, really. :3
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Posted: 5/9/2005 11:46:34 PM     Post subject:  

Does he honestly think that because copyrighted material can't be posted that it applies to his plush-shitting video?
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Posted: 5/9/2005 11:49:44 PM     Post subject:  

i made sure to mirror it.

The internet can't be complete without it.
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Posted: 5/10/2005 12:02:12 AM     Post subject:  

Guys, I already made a mirror and tried to spread it as best I could, it's on uncapped ISP T1 bandwidth. It comes in two flavors, the smaller file with Verix's voiceovers and the better quality one without voiceovers. (Perfect quality for wanking purposes, Skunkie.) :)
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Posted: 5/10/2005 2:00:57 AM     Post subject:  

Watch out, guys! Icy's master isn't happy about this *whip* *crack* :lol:

I can prove its me in that video and that I never gave anyone permission to post it publicly


"As you can see, Your Honor, my anal circumference is the same as the asshole in the video and it's loose enough to fit your gavel."
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Posted: 5/10/2005 5:01:32 AM     Post subject:  

Guys, I already made a mirror and tried to spread it as best I could, it's on uncapped ISP T1 bandwidth. It comes in two flavors, the smaller file with Verix's voiceovers and the better quality one without voiceovers. (Perfect quality for wanking purposes, Skunkie.) :)


I mirrored that and some of his other videos which are just as disturbing
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Posted: 5/10/2005 4:32:27 PM     Post subject:  

Hey, Donny. You've done Art Coroner comics in the style of Ren & Stimpy, Purple Pussy, Peanuts and now Garfield. Have you considered doing one in the style of The Boondocks (maybe it would feature Fisk)?
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Posted: 5/10/2005 6:12:37 PM     Post subject:  

Haven't read it... =/ But how bout Dilbert? =)

Thought I would use Jay-style for something... but not guest star him in dat...
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Posted: 5/11/2005 2:17:47 AM     Post subject:  

I never want to see anything in Dilbert style again ever since someone drew that picture of that chick giving him a blowjob. Jesus Christ, Internet.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 2:26:08 AM     Post subject:  

I never want to see anything in Dilbert style again ever since someone drew that picture of that chick giving him a blowjob. Jesus Christ, Internet.

If you're going to let one erotic picture done in a certain style ruin any other pictures done in the same style, then you're a fucking pussy.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 2:53:43 AM     Post subject:  

Yeah, but I had to endure someone spamming that picture a thousand times in every thread on another forum. That and Dilbert kinda sucks anyway.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:01:03 AM     Post subject:  

Yeah, but I had to endure someone spamming that picture a thousand times in every thread on another forum. That and Dilbert kinda sucks anyway.


I forgot who said it, but Dilbert is a corporate conspiracy to get enslaved office workers to laugh at, and therefore tolerate, the desperation in their lives.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:14:46 AM     Post subject:  

I forgot who said it, but Dilbert is a corporate conspiracy to get enslaved office workers to laugh at, and therefore tolerate, the desperation in their lives.


That, and the fuck sad nasty things about Bill Watterson, the author of Calvin and Hobbes. This has put him on my 'do not support, ever' list for life. Burn in hell, Scott Adams.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:28:11 AM     Post subject:  


That, and the fuck sad nasty things about Bill Watterson, the author of Calvin and Hobbes.



What?!? WHAT??! That fucking little shit, what did he say?
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:32:36 AM     Post subject:  


That, and the fuck sad nasty things about Bill Watterson, the author of Calvin and Hobbes.



What?!? WHAT??! That fucking little shit, what did he say?


Dude, fess up. I love hearing shit about beloved cartoonists.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:38:50 AM     Post subject:  

What?!? WHAT??! That fucking little shit, what did he say?


As I don't have the interview anymore, I can't say exactly, but he softened it in his first, or second comic book release. In his book, he said (I summarize): "I prayed for Watterson to get ill or quit. There was no way I could make it if he was still doing comics." In the interview, however, it was downright nasty. I think it was in CIO, circa '96.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:41:30 AM     Post subject:  


As I don't have the interview anymore, I can't say exactly, but he softened it in his first, or second comic book release. In his book, he said (I summarize): "I prayed for Watterson to get ill or quit. There was no way I could make it if he was still doing comics."


Well, that's true enough.


In the interview, however, it was downright nasty. I think it was in CIO, circa '96.


Dilbert is shit. Adams has no place to talk shit about Watterson. Go mess him up.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:50:01 AM     Post subject:  

Actually, there's another thing Scott Adams did that was far shittier. Some of you may remember Leisuretown, and you might also remember that one of the earlier comics had a chopped-up Dilbert parody within. They were pulled for a pretty long time, and the circumstances under which they got pulled was pretty much your average "cease and desist", but with an interesting twist:

CRANE: In 1997 you had some Dilbert parodies in a comic you did called "A Comedy Crisis." Which got you in some trouble...

FARNON: Well, the whole Dilbert incident was pretty straightforward. I chopped up a bunch of Dilbert cartoons for a story about a guy who chops up Dilbert cartoons and puts them up all around the office. I sampled his handwriting, and re-lettered everything into fart jokes and toilet humor, homoerotic escapades and sexual harrassments. I know, real mature. They stayed up on Leisuretown.com for about six months until United Media sent me a registered cease-and-desist letter. They cited specific examples, too. Words like "flatulence" and "erection" in this formalized legal document on ribbed, creme-colored stationery.

Even Scott Adams sent me a one-line note: "Do you want to go to jail?" No, I don't want to go to jail. I'm not going to be a martyr for Dilbert, I complied and took them down. I understand the Fair Use copyright act and I know there are Dilbert parodies everywhere, but I wasn't interested in making noise or getting junk mail from the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. A group of Leisuretown.com readers who worked at a law firm offered me pro-bono assistance with my case, but I wasn't convinced they were actually lawyers. More like system administrators. I ended up redoing the offending artwork with stick figures, and United Media sent me another note acknowledging I had obeyed their request. Then they claimed my website would be "monitored" periodically. Which is good. I need more readers.

What I don't know is why Scott Adams would feel compelled to contact me personally. I'm allowed to disrespect Dilbert if I want to, I've suffered through years of insipid Dilbert-related merchandise staring at me from other people's cubicles. I've worked on software products code-named "Dogbert." It just got annoying. After awhile each strip ballooned up with industry keywords, and they grew indistinguishable from any other rectangle of syndicated bumper-sticker humor. Let's all honk if we love Dilbert.


Being offended I can understand, but includng a little note saying "Do you want to go to jail?"? That's just fucking classy. Furry webcomic author classy, I dare say.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:56:25 AM     Post subject:  

I beleive Dilbert has just been taken off my read list.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 4:11:11 AM     Post subject:  


Even Scott Adams sent me a one-line note: "Do you want to go to jail?"


Holy fuck, I hate that man more than life itself now.

Fuck furry, let's all join forces and bring this asshole down.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 4:24:40 AM     Post subject:  

I have very little art practice under my belt, and even I can draw a Dilbert cartoon to perfection. The man just sucks.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 7:11:37 AM     Post subject:  

Do you want to go to jail?
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Posted: 5/11/2005 10:36:47 AM     Post subject:  

Wow.. Farnon issa Loki-God! =D

A prankster I'd like to dare to be! =)
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Posted: 5/11/2005 12:00:01 PM     Post subject:  

Do you want to go to jail?

Do you want to be banned?
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Posted: 5/11/2005 2:16:45 PM     Post subject:  

If you're going to let one erotic picture done in a certain style ruin any other pictures done in the same style, then you're a fucking pussy.


Sayeth the furry.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 3:24:36 PM     Post subject:  

Do you want to be banned?


Well! If I could choose, I guess I'd like to get a PSP better.

Also: Sir no sir.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 4:49:07 PM     Post subject:  


Even Scott Adams sent me a one-line note: "Do you want to go to jail?"
Fuck furry, let's all join forces and bring this asshole down.


You might al like to know that Scott is having trouble drawing. He hurt his hand drawing too much once and although it's now fully healed up he can't draw with it. You know how you get food poisoning off a food item you use to love and you can't eat it again because your brain won't let you any more? Subconcusly it knows that food made you ill and it won't let you eat it again and you'll puke it up if you try. Well apparently this also applies to other actions that hurt you. Scott's brain has made a link between drawing and pain so it won't let him. His right hand, while doing everything else fine, shakes when he puts pen to paper. He has got around this though by tricking his brain using a Wacom tablet.

Here's to hoping his intestines jump up his neck and throttle his brain for the good of mankind!
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Posted: 5/11/2005 4:54:32 PM     Post subject:  


Even Scott Adams sent me a one-line note: "Do you want to go to jail?"
Fuck furry, let's all join forces and bring this asshole down.


You might al like to know that Scott is having trouble drawing. He hurt his hand drawing too much once and although it's now fully healed up he can't draw with it. You know how you get food poisoning off a food item you use to love and you can't eat it again because your brain won't let you any more? Subconcusly it knows that food made you ill and it won't let you eat it again and you'll puke it up if you try. Well apparently this also applies to other actions that hurt you. Scott's brain has made a link between drawing and pain so it won't let him. His right hand, while doing everything else fine, shakes when he puts pen to paper. He has got around this though by tricking his brain using a Wacom tablet.

Here's to hoping his intestines jump up his neck and throttle his brain for the good of mankind!


Sprite comics have more variety than a Dilbert strip. I seriously thought his medium of choice is "cut and paste."
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Posted: 5/11/2005 5:32:03 PM     Post subject:  

If you're going to let one erotic picture done in a certain style ruin any other pictures done in the same style, then you're a fucking pussy.

Sayeth the furry.

Would you like to be the pot or the kettle? It doens't matter to me, they both happen to be black. :wink:
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Posted: 5/11/2005 5:32:54 PM     Post subject:  


He hurt his hand drawing too much once and although it's now fully healed up he can't draw with it.



...You're serious? He hurt his hand "drawing too much?" Jesus Christ, what a fucking pussy. Oh oh help I broke my hand from masturbating too much call the 911!!!
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Posted: 5/11/2005 6:05:11 PM     Post subject:  


He hurt his hand drawing too much once and although it's now fully healed up he can't draw with it.



...You're serious? He hurt his hand "drawing too much?" Jesus Christ, what a fucking pussy. Oh oh help I broke my hand from masturbating too much call the 911!!!


That's what he said in his newsletter. Basically some really anal fans notice a tiny change in style and asked if he had someone else drawing the strip for him, which is a valid question seeing paying someone else to do the dirty work is common with these dicks. To give Scott his due, he still draws his own damn strip and the slight style change is because Dilbert is now drawn on computer.

NOW YOU KNOW!
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Posted: 5/11/2005 6:34:43 PM     Post subject:  


He hurt his hand drawing too much once and although it's now fully healed up he can't draw with it.



...You're serious? He hurt his hand "drawing too much?" Jesus Christ, what a fucking pussy. Oh oh help I broke my hand from masturbating too much call the 911!!!

Er, as a folk who has been on the verge of being seriously hurt for the rest of his life for 'drawing too much', I can tell you this is no joke.

I've been had problems with my left hand (yes, I'm a leftie) for four or five years by now. Back by then, my style was obsessively detailed, and thus, I'd spend up to 10 hours with my hand muscles tightly tensed, leaning against the drawing table. And, whan I mean 'hand muscles', I mean I had to keep a string of muscles and tendons running from my spine to my fingertips on a very precise position.

Until, certain day, my hand started to hurt. It was a mild pain in the beginning, so I didn't pay too much attention to it. But it got sharper and sharper... and, some times, it would last for hours and after I dropped the pen. The feeling was like having a rusted steel cable with tiny spikes IN my palm. While not very intense, it would increase when I held something, ocassionally making my thumb release whatever I was holding.

Enough to scare anyone, so I searched on the Internet and found I was carelessly spoiling my hand. In other words, I was risking to render my hand totally useless to draw. And, fuck, if there's something I'm sure of, is that I've got way too many things, characters, comics, etc, waiting for me to draw them.

So I'm MUCH more cautious nowadays. I take breaks from time to time to give my musckes a rest, and exercise my hand, and even take Scotch showers to stimulate my arm's circulation.

I don't know if Mr. Scott Adams is a prick or a son of bitch or whatever. But, if he's worried about his hand's health, he's on his right to do it so, since the worst fate a creator of -any- kind can have is losing their physical capacity to create.

Hurting one's hand drawing too much is a very serious and painful situation.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 6:47:25 PM     Post subject:  

In fan-email correspondance he told me once he never slept (Adams). I don't know if it was actually him or if he had an email answering service. If it was him, he used AOL.

Oh, and Stoney...


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Posted: 5/11/2005 6:52:56 PM     Post subject:  

racism
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Posted: 5/11/2005 6:55:42 PM     Post subject:  


Er, as a folk who has been on the verge of being seriously hurt for the rest of his life for 'drawing too much', I can tell you this is no joke.

I've been had problems with my left hand (yes, I'm a leftie) for four or five years by now. Back by then, my style was obsessively detailed, and thus, I'd spend up to 10 hours with my hand muscles tightly tensed, leaning against the drawing table. And, whan I mean 'hand muscles', I mean I had to keep a string of muscles and tendons running from my spine to my fingertips on a very precise position.


Okay, granted. But there's a big difference between the quality of your drawing and the quality of Scott Adams.' If Scott labors for ten hours at a time and those crappy Dilbert strips are the best he can come up with, that's pathetic. It's not a carefully crafted minimalist style like you find in many deceptively simple comics (like Peanuts); if you look at Adams' panel composition and bubble layout, you can very obviously see that he just plain can't draw.

Dilbert was passingly funny when it was new and Adams still had some creative spark for non-office humor. But then he realized where the money was coming from and it's been one long, tedious string of LOL WORK SUCKS jokes every since.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 8:09:00 PM     Post subject:  

PEOPLE DILBERT SUCKS NOW LET IT GO
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Posted: 5/11/2005 9:41:32 PM     Post subject:  

Yes! Back on track!



I Suppose that is worksafe enough...
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Posted: 5/11/2005 10:09:29 PM     Post subject:  



Okay, granted. But there's a big difference between the quality of your drawing and the quality of Scott Adams.' If Scott labors for ten hours at a time and those crappy Dilbert strips are the best he can come up with, that's pathetic. It's not a carefully crafted minimalist style like you find in many deceptively simple comics (like Peanuts); if you look at Adams' panel composition and bubble layout, you can very obviously see that he just plain can't draw.

Dilbert was passingly funny when it was new and Adams still had some creative spark for non-office humor. But then he realized where the money was coming from and it's been one long, tedious string of LOL WORK SUCKS jokes every since.


Not to totally veer the conversation or anything, but didn't someone on here mention that... Jim Davis, I think, the creator of "Garfield" drew his strips straight in ink? Just a thought, but maybe adopting the minimalistic style makes it easier to do things like that.

I would imagine, as well, it really speeds production tenfold.
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Posted: 5/11/2005 10:26:15 PM     Post subject:  

Yes! Back on track!

http://www.furnation.com/donotsue/skwrlworks/IceyTrial.gif

I Suppose that is worksafe enough...


GUILTY!

For further thoughts Donny, just look to the sig.
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Posted: 5/12/2005 12:10:25 AM     Post subject:  

Er, as a folk who has been on the verge of being seriously hurt for the rest of his life for 'drawing too much', I can tell you this is no joke.

I've been had problems with my left hand (yes, I'm a leftie) for four or five years by now. Back by then, my style was obsessively detailed, and thus, I'd spend up to 10 hours with my hand muscles tightly tensed, leaning against the drawing table. And, whan I mean 'hand muscles', I mean I had to keep a string of muscles and tendons running from my spine to my fingertips on a very precise position.

I don't know if you've seen a Dilbert comic lately, but I've seen your comics and other pieces of yours (some on Yerf back when it was up) and one that comes to mind in particular is one a bunch of characters preparing to fire a cannon. The insane ammount of detail in your backgrounds that masks your more cartoony characters is something to be commended.

Dilbert on the other is nothing more that a bunch of simple lines (most of them straight and of the same thickness). If anyone can use the excuse of "drawing too much injured my hand" it's you, not Adams.
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Posted: 5/12/2005 12:47:32 AM     Post subject:  

Not to totally veer the conversation or anything, but didn't someone on here mention that... Jim Davis, I think, the creator of "Garfield" drew his strips straight in ink? Just a thought, but maybe adopting the minimalistic style makes it easier to do things like that.

I would imagine, as well, it really speeds production tenfold.

Some artists work directly in inks, or only make very loose sketches before inking - including some who have complex art styles. It's a matter of talent and routine, really. But sure it saves time. As for Jim Davis, he may well have used that technique back when he drew his strip himself, but he makes no secret of the fact that for years he's only done rough pencil layouts of the strips and pencils of the character's faces, everything else is done by assistants.
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