Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

Sixtail · Qualificator Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 30

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html

I can hear the 40 year old basement dwellers just SAVING those pennys for there own hybrd shunk/vixen/lapine now.

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 793

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html

I can hear the 40 year old basement dwellers just SAVING those pennys for there own hybrd shunk/vixen/lapine now.

And CYD should get in touch with the ACLU and have legal documents filed stating that these hybrids will have human rights (even a Bush-stacked Supreme Court won't be in any mood to put out another "Dredd Scott" like verdict) and now all those furries will have to provide financial support to their former fuckslave vixens before they even got to blow their first load in them.

I can imagine furries all over the world muttering like the Frankenstein monster, saying "She hate me, like others.".

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/01/0125_050125_chimeras.html

I can hear the 40 year old basement dwellers just SAVING those pennys for there own hybrd shunk/vixen/lapine now.

Yeah, I saw this the other day. The first thing I thought was "These conservatives are going to ban it before it's off the ground." And I'm probably right.

But... it is very interesting. I'm sure guys in the anime fandom are going "omg, make catgirls ^^!!" And furries are going "omg shitting dicknippled hermtaur foxes with six dicks :D" Really, it would be for the advancement of medicine. And I'm all for that. Whatever can ease people's suffering. But then comes the "playing god" part, are we really meant to be messing with this kinda stuff? Ya, why not? Saving someone from a heart attack or cancer is just the same really, you're playing god with the person's life; one mistake and they're dead. Wouldn't it be convenient to change organs out like parts on a car? (Our bodies are machines, after all.) Or to be able to produce white blood cells for people with aids/hiv? Skin for a burn victim?

And then we come to topic of creating humanoid animals. Why would we need to? They'd just be sickly outcast freaks. First we should be improving *our* species instead of creating new ones. Well, other than fish people. We needs us some fish people. (3/4ths of the world is covered in water, after all.) But... if we were to take an eagle's sight, a bat's hearing, a dog's smell, a spider's spidersense and work them into human DNA. Well, that'd be "cool" imo. Since our senses are very dull.

I know most christians are going to shit themselves over it too. They'll say there's something sacred about human life, to which my response is: What about all those people you bombed? And what about the people starving while you stuff yourself full of food, throw away the left-overs and then go waste your money away? Sacred indeed. The truth of the matter is: People want comfort over your well-being. And if your wellbeing causes them discomfort, your wellbeing is trouble. In the end, this will probably fail because of religion, no matter how much it could help people. Just like stemcell research.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I doubt it'll go anywhere in the near future. Science advances a lot faster than social acceptance does. Still.. if we ever do see our first humanoid animal or animalesque human, it'll probably be like something out of The Isle fo Dr. Moreau and the civil rights issues will be annoying.

In Minnesota last year researchers at the Mayo Clinic created pigs with human blood flowing through their bodies.

Looks like furries already have something to relate to.

Stoneth · Vociferator Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 545

I can see a bit of both sides of the issue, more primarily against. I sincerely doubt that we would have the technology create a healthy chimera that would be able to live for a respectable amount of time. Second of all, this reminds me way too much of Island of Dr. Moreau. The results would be neither human nor animal. Third, let's say our technology becomes so great that we could create a chimera so successful that it would gain sentience and other human traits. What a way to pay it back by using it for experiments and the like.

On the other hand ... this could mean being able to make all kinds of cool species like Chakats for the first time.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

Mice With Human Brains

Weissman has already created mice with brains that are about one percent human.

Later this year he may conduct another experiment where the mice have 100 percent human brains. This would be done, he said, by injecting human neurons into the brains of embryonic mice.

Before being born, the mice would be killed and dissected to see if the architecture of a human brain had formed. If it did, he'd look for traces of human cognitive behavior.

OMG Secret of NimH!11!1!!!!!!!1!!!

But... isn't it murder to kill something with a 100 percent human brain :?

Where are the pro-life advocates when you really need them?

AngryPuritan · Vociferator Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 399

It begins, well, actually I can't imagine anything even symmetrical coming from this, and hopefully they would be given rights like those to bear arms, so they can blow aware a 500 pound stalker if need be...

Actually, I want an anteater/man to vacuum my house. T'would be swell.

Where are the pro-life advocates when you really need them?

Hurling red paint and cabbage patch dolls at hardworking doctors. You're talking about people who don't care about the quality of human life, as long as it's illegal to end it before it begins.

Bombing this scientist won't stop this process, it will just make ten more follow in his research.

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

But... isn't it murder to kill something with a 100 percent human brain :?

Yeah... no.

Yeah as in: adults, children and fetuses after a certain amount of time.
No as in: Braindead*, young fetuses, and everything in times of war.

In my opinion, when something becomes aware of it's own existance; THEN it should be illegal to kill it. Braindead people, fetuses and animals (as far as I know) don't go "Hey, what's goin' on? Where am I? What am I?"

*"We're gonna have to pull the plug."

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 365

Meh.

Anything that pisses off fundamentalists can't be ALL bad.

SquareMoogle · Venter Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 238

He concedes that these studies would lead to some medical breakthroughs. Still, they should not be done.

OWNED

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

OH GOD

NOT ANOTHER FUCKING THREAD ABOUT HOW IN A BILLION FUCKING YEARS THE RICH FURRIES(WHICH BY THE WAY BAAAHAHAHA) WILL BE ABLE TO GENETICALLY ENGINEER THEIR VERY OWN PERSONAL SKUNK-WHORES

KILL IT

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

OH GOD

NOT ANOTHER FUCKING THREAD ABOUT HOW IN A BILLION FUCKING YEARS THE RICH FURRIES(WHICH BY THE WAY BAAAHAHAHA) WILL BE ABLE TO GENETICALLY ENGINEER THEIR VERY OWN PERSONAL SKUNK-WHORES

KILL IT

Look man. I just want to curl up up in bed on a cold winter's night with some cute skunkette. Is that so wrong? It's bad enough facing the thought that

1) some worthless schlub in the future is going to get the pleasure of that experiance while in the here-and-now a decent guy like me is stuck with a Max Black Rabbit drawing and my hand

and

2) that that poor skunkette is going to be abused like a filthy sex toy by said worthless schlub, instead of being treated with respect as an equal partner in a loving and emotionaly mature relationship.

Shit. Now I'm going to be awake all night thinking about this again.

Rankin · TOP POSTER! Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Posts: 1514

Shit. Now I'm going to be awake all night thinking about this again.

By thinking, you are using a euphemism for "masturbating furiously", I must assume.

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

Shit. Now I'm going to be awake all night thinking about this again.

By thinking, you are using a euphemism for "masturbating furiously", I must assume.

Try "worrying".

In such a brave new world I'd probably be forced to head an anthro advocacy group to protect these anthro females from the abuses of the furries. Part of it would be an NAACP like political arm, part of it would be protective services like battered womens shelters for rescued anthro love slaves. In extreme cases, to free these lovely females from the tyranny of the furries' lusts, I'd have to go above the law and employ my cybernetic super-team of vixens to infiltrate and retrieve these girls from their captors.

Of course they'd so greatful to me at being the first human male to show them gentle love and affection that they'd be willing and wanting of me to teach them all about humanity and loooooove.... it'd be great :D

Donotsue · Vociferator Joined: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 666

Furry Anti Anthro-Abuse Team? Skunkfuckers are go!

FAAAT!

subversive · Prattler Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 180

Of course they'd so greatful to me at being the first human male to show them gentle love and affection that they'd be willing and wanting of me to teach them all about humanity and loooooove.... it'd be great :D

Hey, you're getting sadness all over my computer desk here.

If anyone ever did create animal-human hybrids, it would probably not be at all what you would expect in the wacky masterbation fantasies of fur fans. It might not even be outwardly noticable (for example, if only certain genes or whatever were used). And if it were, I surely doubt they would be as "pretty" as most furry art would make them. They'd probably be really weird looking to us.

They'd probably be barrel-chested, short, strangely proportioned and their intelligence wouldn't be on the same level as ours. This isn't really sexy to me.

However, if geneticly changing of a living being were possible, I think it would be cool to have a nice warm fur coat :) The weather here is fucking cold. And too, supposedly animals can smell all sorts of things about eachother, such as their age, health, gender, the last time they got laid, etc. THAT would be pretty damn cool.

In fact, I think if I ever own a dog, I'll train him/her to give me a subtle signal, such as sitting or laying down, whenever he/she smells that a person they encounter has recently gotten laid. :)

Bloodied · Qualificator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 33

And the time they spent doing this 'exciting' research couldn't have been better spent on, say, cures for Aids and Cancer? :?

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

1) some worthless schlub in the future is going to get the pleasure of that experiance while in the here-and-now a decent guy like me is stuck with a Max Black Rabbit drawing and my hand

Have you ever thought about, y'know... women, son? They can take care of some of those problems.

Bloodied · Qualificator Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 33

Or indeed men, if you're that way inclined

Gargoyle · Vociferator Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 387

But... isn't it murder to kill something with a 100 percent human brain :?
Yeah... no.

Yeah as in: adults, children and fetuses after a certain amount of time.
No as in: Braindead*, young fetuses, and everything in times of war.

OH REALLY?

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

But then comes the "playing god" part, are we really meant to be messing with this kinda stuff? Ya, why not? Saving someone from a heart attack or cancer is just the same really, you're playing god with the person's life; one mistake and they're dead. Wouldn't it be convenient to change organs out like parts on a car? (Our bodies are machines, after all.) Or to be able to produce white blood cells for people with aids/hiv? Skin for a burn victim?

And then we come to topic of creating humanoid animals. Why would we need to? They'd just be sickly outcast freaks. First we should be improving *our* species instead of creating new ones

Actually these sorts of ideas here I think are pretty dangerous and why I tend to be against medical research. We've seen advances in almost every field of science except medicine. We've been researching cancer for 50 years at least, and how far have we progressed ? Hate to sound defeatist, but Im not one of those people that sees humanity progressing onward into a Utopian future. Rather I think we are eventually going to hit an intellectual/biological barrier that we will simply not be able to overcome.

Science and technology should be used to build faster computers and cars - not 'better' lifeforms.

Im not a religious person by any stretch, but at the same time I think life has consequences for a reason. We live and die for a reason. I do all kinds of shit that I would probably be better off not doing. The last thing I need to be told is that if I fuck up some of my organs I can just get new ones , no biggie. I'll be the first to say, without being hard on myself at all, that I really wouldn't feel I deserve to have my life extended on and on indefinatly by having parts harvested from totally fucked chimeras kept alive in weird labs. I just don't want that.

And not to sound callous. But theres a lot of people out there. And some of them I don't really want to be around forever. The more people there are, the less there is to go around for everyone else. Some of these motherfuckers need to die, seriously.

Just lookin out for #1, baby :)

MikeyTheCat · Qualificator Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 35

Finally.

Cat will be real.

AngryPuritan · Vociferator Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 399

They'd probably be barrel-chested, short, strangely proportioned and their intelligence wouldn't be on the same level as ours. This isn't really sexy to me.

Yes, indeed unsexy to a normal well adjusted human being, but you're talking about people who can get off on the idea of tentacles...

Kadius · Vociferator Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 637

But then comes the "playing god" part, are we really meant to be messing with this kinda stuff? Ya, why not? Saving someone from a heart attack or cancer is just the same really, you're playing god with the person's life; one mistake and they're dead. Wouldn't it be convenient to change organs out like parts on a car? (Our bodies are machines, after all.) Or to be able to produce white blood cells for people with aids/hiv? Skin for a burn victim?

And then we come to topic of creating humanoid animals. Why would we need to? They'd just be sickly outcast freaks. First we should be improving *our* species instead of creating new ones

Actually these sorts of ideas here I think are pretty dangerous and why I tend to be against medical research. We've seen advances in almost every field of science except medicine. We've been researching cancer for 50 years at least, and how far have we progressed ? Hate to sound defeatist, but Im not one of those people that sees humanity progressing onward into a Utopian future. Rather I think we are eventually going to hit an intellectual/biological barrier that we will simply not be able to overcome. Science and technology should be used to build faster computers and cars - not 'better' lifeforms.

Well, I didn't really go into much depth about what I thought would be a good use for technology like this. I was thinking about heart disease, cancer and other stuff like that. I'm not talking about endlessly harvesting and replacing parts of your body. For some kind of twisted form of life. Just you know, stopping someone from losing their eight year old kid. - About the intellectual barrier. It's strange to think, there are people trying to dumb us down as we have more access to more information. I watch about two or three hours of tv a week for the last three years. And it's changed my life DRASTICLY. Gotta love consumerism. Buy and you'll be happy. If you're still not happy; we have pills for that. If your marriage is falling apart, we've got a pill to make your dick bigger. 'Cause your wife doesn't want you to quit being a lazy asshole and get your ass of the couch, no; a fat cock is the instant and permanent fix for all your marital problems.

As for what I said about making a better species. I was for the most part talking about making us immune to known diseases. Making a better person takes a better society. And actually teaching children instead of programming them into feeble-minded drones.

And not to sound callous. But theres a lot of people out there. And some of them I don't really want to be around forever. The more people there are, the less there is to go around for everyone else. Some of these motherfuckers need to die, seriously.

I have to agree with you for the most part.

Just lookin out for #1, baby

Like I've said before. For most people: Comfort > Other's well being. :wink:

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

However, if geneticly changing of a living being were possible, I think it would be cool to have a nice warm fur coat :) The weather here is fucking cold. And too, supposedly animals can smell all sorts of things about eachother, such as their age, health, gender, the last time they got laid, etc. THAT would be pretty damn cool.

But... your bare human skin is all the better to feel the softness of your lovers fur! Why would you want to miss out on that? There's also the downside of not being able to really enjoy oil wrestling again. Also; remnants after you use the bathroom... eww.

And I think I prefer being able to tell gender by sight. In fact, I find it a bit disconcerting when I can't. And the reason they can tell all those things? It's not just a good sense of smell, it's also because they don't bathe or wipe their asses (see above).

1) some worthless schlub in the future is going to get the pleasure of that experiance while in the here-and-now a decent guy like me is stuck with a Max Black Rabbit drawing and my hand

Have you ever thought about, y'know... women, son? They can take care of some of those problems.

Huh?

I don't understand. What do women do? :?

Or indeed men, if you're that way inclined

I think I'm getting there. :cry:

Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 980

And not to sound callous. But theres a lot of people out there. And some of them I don't really want to be around forever. The more people there are, the less there is to go around for everyone else. Some of these motherfuckers need to die, seriously.
I have to agree with you for the most part.

Just lookin out for #1, baby

Like I've said before. For most people: Comfort > Other's well being. :wink:

Mouse, Kadius (and your Manson avatar as well): I agree with you there. On that note, might I introduce you to the Egoist philosophies of Max Stirner?

Sehvekah · Qualificator Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 39

Actually these sorts of ideas here I think are pretty dangerous and why I tend to be against medical research. We've seen advances in almost every field of science except medicine. We've been researching cancer for 50 years at least, and how far have we progressed ? Hate to sound defeatist, but Im not one of those people that sees humanity progressing onward into a Utopian future. Rather I think we are eventually going to hit an intellectual/biological barrier that we will simply not be able to overcome.

And how many other "impossible" things have been done, even in just the last 50 years? Granted, I agree there's no way we're headed towards Utopia(the very idea of which is completely incompatable with human nature), but to say there's a hard limit we're headed towards, well, I doubt that very much.

Humans were never meant to fly, or swim thousands of feet underwater, or traverse through the hard vaccume of space, let alone understand the secrets of life. And look how the things we were never meant to do got in our way. :roll: If there's one way to get mankind to do the impossible, it's to say they can never get it done.

Is it likely? No. Will they turn out as pretty as furries think they would? Cretianly not at first, maybe not at all without something more than just genetic tinkering. But that doesn't rule it out entirely.

Even if no crazy rich fuckers fund it, given sufficent technological advances, all it'd take is a pre-med student with access to daddy's computer and the schools(or anyone elses he can hack into) bio lab.

And if that dosen't convince you it's at least possible, ask yourself this, "Would it be a bad idea?". Now, stop and take a look at the long, sad history of bad ideas that've happened. It doesn't make Skunkfucker's Dystopia inevetable, but given our track record, Utopia's the only possibility one can safely rule out. Everything else, however unlikely or unpleasant to consider, is still possible.

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

Humans were never meant to fly, or swim thousands of feet underwater, or traverse through the hard vaccume of space, let alone understand the secrets of life. And look how the things we were never meant to do got in our way. :roll: If there's one way to get mankind to do the impossible, it's to say they can never get it done.

I think your misunderstanding me. I think some fields of endeavor may prove so complex that we might not be biologically capable of fully understanding them. We just might not be smart enough (or live long enough). Or just as a what if example. As things become increasely complex (or in the case of biology) what if the training required to actually master a subject became completely impractical. As it is doctors go to school for over 10 years.. they might know a lot about the human body .. theres a hell of a lot they dont know either. e.g. We still have no clue why asprin actually works.

Especially when you consider your standard health office type of physician. They know how to spot certain illnesses and what to prescibe thats supposed to cure it and thats usually about it.

As that pyramid of knowledge gets larger and larger, how many people are going to be capable of learning everything they need to know for a given subject? Its the difference between an auto mechanic and the guy engineering race motors.

But also, yeah people thought we would never fly.. that was a little bit too skeptical. At the same time - Do I think mankind will see speed of light travel or nanobots anytime in the next 1000 years, if ever? hell no.
Theres a huge difference in figuring out how to control simple physics (powered flight) and how to propel a ship at the speed of light (for ex). The first innovations and ideas were new, and it took geniuses (in some cases) to figure them out initially. After that, it was easy to see how it worked and now they can teach it in high school. Things get progressively harder the further you go with these things. Also keep in mind human knowledge is cumulative. We can only build on what we already have. One clean break in it and its back to the stone age in one generation.

I might have confused you cuz I had two things going on. That is my fault. I don't trust science in that area (bio-engineering), I also doubt it.

The thing about the cancer research is. We've been at it for quite a while now, and we still haven't figured it out. We run into a lot of dead ends. There is something we arn't doing right. Thats where my doubts are coming from.

Anencephalic Baby Jesus · Rasophore Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 69

The thing about the cancer research is. We've been at it for quite a while now, and we still haven't figured it out. We run into a lot of dead ends. There is something we arn't doing right. Thats where my doubts are coming from.

We haven't found a definitive cause for cancer yet; how can we cure it? Oh, we've narrowed things down to a certain set of possibilities, such as radiation and chemicals and whatnot, but we're still not sure.

As for creating cute yiffy human-animal hybrids, it makes for good science fiction, but I doubt if anyone here should be throwing away that fursuit just yet. If such a creature was developed, I imagine it wouldn't have the same rights as "natural" human beings, at least not at first.

And why would any sane person want to create a living creature for a pleasure slave? I'd rather have an android. I'd program it to pleasure me when asked, and do my chores/guard the property/get the hell out of my way otherwise. The damn thing wouldn't have any rights because it's a machine, so I wouldn't have to worry about it marching on Washington with a sign in its hand. I'm sure you could manufacture a "furry" model if that's your particular taste.

NOW GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME SOME PIE

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1030

We haven't found a definitive cause for cancer yet; how can we cure it? Oh, we've narrowed things down to a certain set of possibilities, such as radiation and chemicals and whatnot, but we're still not sure.

Total speculation on my part: when you make a copy of a copy of a copy (and so on) it deteriorates. Cancer is literally just cells that dont reproduce properly (or mutant cells that reproduce). After a lifetime of cells copying themselves I think its just gonna happen. I think its just a natural barrier to excessive lifespans. I think thats why we see more cancer in the 'First world' in the past 50 years. The average lifespan is longer or why it wasn't seen in the past as much, not that in most cases they could have detected , really. Things can aggrivate the situation (chemical exposure, smoking, etc) and cause cancer.. but still.

Radiation and chemotherapy are just desperate attemps to treat a symptom. You could draw a parallel to electro-shock for psych-patients. Most people who get "sick" from cancer its the treatments causing it. Usually they don't even know they have cancer until a doctor tells them.

Personally If I had cancer I would NOT get treatment at this time, unless they really, really, thought it was gonna work. Cutting out a tumor thru surgery, fine - bombarding me with radiation making me sick as shit so my hair falls out and I sleep 22 hours a day? No thanks!

As for creating cute yiffy human-animal hybrids, it makes for good science fiction, but I doubt if anyone here should be throwing away that fursuit just yet. If such a creature was developed, I imagine it wouldn't have the same rights as "natural" human beings, at least not at first.

And why would any sane person want to create a living creature for a pleasure slave?

Well it is furries and eggheads getting all exited about this news .... :)

If there were chimeras, or RL FURRIES !!! , they would probably get treated like shit. Second class citizens or slaves. It would be total bullshit. Also if they were sentient and just like normal people - they would probably avoid furries like the plague. Seeing as how it would mostly be a group of sexual predators to their perspective (or at the very least a group of people that would just objectify and drool all over them)

Sehvekah · Qualificator Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 39

I understood you, it's just you don't seem to be adjusting for the continual advancement of the tools people are using to work on the problems. Yes, it's entirely possible that no one person will understand the totality of even the operation of a single cell, but it doesn't matter if noone understands every detail.

Let me draw an analogy here. Take machine code, the raw ones and zeros processed by your or anyone elses computer. Nobody can possibly understand or interpit it. And nobody's been able to for decades. It's too complex. We utilize programming languages as a medium to comvert our intentions into machine code, and while one might undertand Java or C++, hand a programmer a string of machine code they'll never be able to tell you what it's function is. It's beyond their or anyone elses understanding.

Even designing the computers themselves is now beyond the understanding of any one person. So many people are involved, and so much computer work is involved in the design that while someone might tell you in general term how a Pentium 4 was designed and operates, they can't calim to truely understand it.

In studing the genetic workings of cells we are, in essence, looking at the cellular machine code. The thing is, we don't have the programming language to interpit it. Take any .EXE file and, if you know the language used to make it, you can run it through a decompiler to convert it back into something comprehensable by a human being. We can't do that with genes yet because we don't have the language, or even all of the functions to build the language on.

Finding the functions is going to be a long process of trial and error, methodical testing, guesswork and occasional bolts of inspiriation, just like everything else mankind has accomplished. It will take longer though, because this is potentially* the single most complex thing mankind has ever attempted.

We may only have been making progress a short while, but then the tools to properly examine the problem at hand have only existed for a marginally longer time. It'll be some time before anything more than parlor tricks** like glowing fish and human blodded pigs are seen. And to be honest, I don't trust it much in it's current state either, and I don't think I'll live to see the real benefits of this research.

But to say it'll never happen... No, I'm more inclined to bet on the admitidly irrational idea of skunkgirl fuckslaves in 300 years than to say biotechnology would never advance far enough to allow it.

History and human nature show a continual desire to understand our universe and everything in it. Even a complete technological collapse would only be a setback, not an impassable barrier.

Of course, this applies into the the possibility of technology allowing for it. Legally, it's doubtfull any nation would allow it, and morally, most people would condem it for irrational ideas like a magical "sanctity" of life or whatever other invisible pink unicorn they want to pull out of their ass. There's lots of reasons for it never happening, but a technological barrier won't be one of them(or at least not indefinately).

*=Producing an artificialy sentient being may ultimately prove more complex, though at this stage in the game it's really far too early to tell.
**=Relative to what is seen in nature or theoreticly possible with at least a functioning, if not full understanding of things.

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 793

But to say it'll never happen... No, I'm more inclined to bet on the admitidly irrational idea of skunkgirl fuckslaves in 300 years than to say biotechnology would never advance far enough to allow it.

Let's only hope that in by then, furrydumb has been long since been rendered extinct, much like the Aztecs or the religious cult of "Hey, let's jump off this cliff so SuperJesus can swoop down and rescue us before we slam into those sharp jagged rocks below".

Sehvekah · Qualificator Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 39

One can certianly dream.

Probably a sign I've been thinking on this far more than is healthy, under what circumstances would you rather see actual anthropromorphic beings created?

A: By sexually frustrated furries(either as rouge individuals or some hideously organized group effort).

B: By corperations looking to save a buck by dodging human rights.

C: Governments looking to gain a military advantage by avoiding things like human rights.

D: Relegious fuckwits who want to bring back slavery while neatly sidesteping those damnable human rights.

E: Insert your own nightmare here.

No, you don't get to choose "I wouldn't want to see them created", this is a question of what those here would see as the least of several evils.

Anencephalic Baby Jesus · Rasophore Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 69

I choose (c), only because I wrote a book about that once. In my book, the government created desert-adapted lizard people to fight TEH WAR ON TERRA. The lizard people eventually revolted and fought for their rights, which (after several generations) were eventually granted. But normal humans never did like them very much and the lizard people pretty much created their own separate nation in a part of the world where nobody else really wanted to live anyway.

It was a dumb book.

Paul · Vociferator Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 551

I choose A, simply because those artificial creatures would stand a much better chance of successfully rebelling and killing off their masters were their masters furries rather than big business, government or religious authorities. After all, the latter three are made up of mostly competent people (whatever you think if their actions), while furries are anything but that.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

I want to have an anthropomorphic friend. :(

I think that would be kinda cool don't you think. :)

Michael Hirtes · Vociferator Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 793

I want to have an anthropomorphic friend. :(

I think that would be kinda cool don't you think. :)

Uh, no.

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 522

Uh, no.

>=(

GoManVanGogh · Vociferator Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 365

Uh, no.

>=(

Well, HERE'S a real meeting of the minds.

Computolio · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 631

NOBODY'S GETTING THE HINT HERE