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Iconoclastic
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Posted: 4/3/2005 2:50:10 AM     Post subject: So, why all the Groat hatin'?  

Associating with this message board may earn me contempt from those whose names has been named here, so I try to keep tabs on why certain furries get blasted. Xydexx for his big mouth and SA bloodlust...Sylfor for his pasty sexpot tendancies...but why Jim Groat? I admit I'm a fan what little work I've seen of his, and from what I know, he's done no crime.

Fill me in :?
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Stoneth
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Posted: 4/3/2005 3:13:00 AM     Post subject:  

I have nothing against Jim Groat (anyone here is welcome to state otherwise). He doesn't do porn fan art which he claims isn't his and he hasn't stalked any female voice actresses and he isn't open about any bizarre fetish.

The man amuses me, personally.
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AngryPuritan
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Posted: 4/3/2005 4:15:02 AM     Post subject:  

Because we're le assholes.
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RailFoxen
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Posted: 4/3/2005 5:05:17 AM     Post subject:  

Groat's a cool enough guy. He runs a horribly in-jokey webcomic with a small following of people who generally aren't insane, and he sells pretty level art at the cons. As far as I know, he's about the least openly sexual guy on the FurryMUCK, and he's responsible with his guns. And takes enough care of himself to avoid falling into the overweight beardo stereotype.

So... do we hate him? Did I miss the memo?
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mouse
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Posted: 4/3/2005 5:29:07 AM     Post subject:  

why's the sky blue, hows a rainbow get made, hows the positrac rear-end in a plymouth work?

It just does...



err we just do.
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Dr. Dos
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Posted: 4/3/2005 5:44:37 AM     Post subject:  

we eat what we like.
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Computolio
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Posted: 4/3/2005 10:16:46 AM     Post subject:  

He's just nuts.
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Paul
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Posted: 4/3/2005 12:56:23 PM     Post subject:  

Iconoclastic, why the poke fun at = hate equation? That's just so furry. :P

Also, where's Groat's being blasted here? I don't see any Groat-hatin' in, say, The New Meat's WCOTP article... that's just comics critique and review.
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MonicaKitty
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Posted: 4/3/2005 2:09:02 PM     Post subject:  

I don't know who the guy is, but he doesn't SOUND hate-able. Besides, it would be wrong to tear into someone arbitrarily. That's what all the little whining mutants accuse us of in the first place. It's the same as pouncing on newbies before they have a chance to embarass themselves...
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Rural Pimp
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Posted: 4/3/2005 6:53:41 PM     Post subject:  

Well, I would guess that Jerry Collins is the one around here that is most interested in hating Groat, judging from the cartoons on the main page. Compared to the other freaklords, Groat just seems like mild eccentric. But - isnīt Groat really, really lazy? And hasnīt he got a crazy wife also? And what about that incident with the Groat kid running around and punching people in the crotch? Please elaborate on these and other reasons why CYD might have some against Groat.
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Posted: 4/3/2005 7:13:12 PM     Post subject:  

A search for dirt uncovers a Hirtes rant :wink: That always seems to happen.

http://www.talkaboutpets.com/group/alt.fan.furry/messages/278882.html
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Paul
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Posted: 4/3/2005 11:16:40 PM     Post subject:  

Seriously, guys, I fail to see how Collins drawing a few caricatures of Groat and Hirtes posting a rant or two (which admittedly seem a bit hateful) about Groat equals CYD hating or even disliking Groat. CYD - Mitch, that is - is not responsible for what Hirtes posts on the forum (or elsewhere!). And I presume the old disclaimer about views expressed in an article or drawing being those of the author, but not necessarily of the publisher/site, also goes for CYD.

But c'mon, everyone post their Groat stories - could be fun!

edit: Silly me, rephrasing what the CYD FAQ says:
Q: Why do you hate furries?
A: Personally, I don't, though I regard some of them as humorless crazies who need to seek professional help. I am not responsible for opinions expressed by contributors to the site or posted in our forum, however. Especially the forum. Some folk have a "criticism=hate" mindset, which some say is part of the problem with the fandom.
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Jerry Collins
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Posted: 4/4/2005 4:48:20 PM     Post subject: Das Jim  

Okay,here you go kids,...I don't hate Jim,I hate what he has become,a spiteful "ditto-head",who had ditched a good paying job(and endangering his family's rent and food fund)to fart around with his neo-brownshirt idiot"friends"(who'd probably sell his carcass to an organ harvester at the drop of a hat!)He had vast potential as a cartoonist/writer ,and he pissed it away on fanboy antics...No!I don't hate him...If anything,a betrayal of my trust in him,and a sorrowful pity.May Jah show him the way out of the dark prison he himself had made..he has no one to blame for his ill fortunes but himself...now you know(Jer)
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Posted: 4/4/2005 8:39:29 PM     Post subject:  

I don't hate him, though I can see how some people would.

In a way, I pity him. Not to where I could bring myself to help him, because I'm all-too-familiar with what a waste of time that is. It's more the type of pity you feel for a rabid dog, where you know it hasn't got a hope, and that the poor creature is too dumb to understand it's own condition.

Either way, I got no time or use for him.
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Jerry Collins
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:14:16 PM     Post subject:  

Go Van Gough; well said,well spoken!
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:28:49 PM     Post subject:  

It's "DRAGONS"!!!

It's "Do not meddle in the affairs of DRAGONS"!!!

Wizards don't EAT people, you SKIRT-WEARING, SHEEP-LOVING DIPSTICK!!!

*pant-pant*

Sorry, Jer... I've just been holding on to that for SUCH a long time.
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Jerry Collins
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:38:51 PM     Post subject: Beeyotcthkink again?NU?  

GETETH A CLUE!yer behind the times,I all ready explained this before,(i.e.Cheech Wizards old trick of turning his enemies into doobie joints,beer,or burgers)Besides,as you can see ,the gentle "rabbinical"celtic magic user has been replaced by Jack Kirby's" Red Skull"(since this what teh phurries consider me to be!) it was that,or Kain of Nosgoth as an avatar.In any event,as Tex Avery's hillbilly wolf said;"Joke's over son."(Jer)
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Stoneth
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Posted: 4/5/2005 9:06:02 PM     Post subject:  

I was wondering what Red Skull had to do with anything.
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Jerry Collins
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Posted: 4/7/2005 6:14:35 PM     Post subject: Elementry my dear Moriarty  

What does the Red Skull have to do with anything?ANYTHING HE VERDAMMENT WELL WAN"TS TO LIEBLING! :lol:
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Donotsue
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Posted: 4/7/2005 6:18:59 PM     Post subject:  

Back on track!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5571712747&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

I was told it is Jim who is selling this.. HAINTED teddy! =)
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Jerry Collins
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Posted: 4/7/2005 6:26:11 PM     Post subject:  

Whoa.I better get rid of that plush Raziel figure while I can. :wink:
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Posted: 4/7/2005 9:40:42 PM     Post subject:  

Once a paranoid delusional, always a paranoid delusional.
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SquareMoogle
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Posted: 4/7/2005 10:37:34 PM     Post subject:  

How much fucking Lilo and Stick memorabilia does he need to buy!?
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