Yes, David got laid... with a gay man, in a comic, wearing a living fursuit, but I guess it counts, anyway!
I just wonder what happened to the more militant side of the Internet's most dangerous cartoonist... had he become a pacifist when he acknowledged his gay side or what? It's time for a Muslim hunt, Gonterman.
Shmeckopolis Vociferator
Joined: 31 Mar 2004
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Posted: 5/3/2005 7:31:56 AM
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The sex image in that comic and gargoyle's avatar looks like a forgotten disney character having sex with an out-of-costume Arms Longfellow from the "Captain Wonderful and the Winged Avenger" sketch from the Kids in the Hall.
Q: Wait a minute. So, "Jim" is "so grossed out" because "he's gay and has sex with a dudes only" ("in a vixen fursuit")...
Is it something like a classic character of David "FoxFire" Kintobor's failed relationship with General Zoisite?
A: Not Quite. Spoiler ahead.
Jim may be drawn to romantic relationships with other guys--what he believes gives him the notion that he is gat--but he still has hang-ups when it comes to sex. He probably never gotten past the "Sex is gross!" stage in his thinking, and have heard one too many horror stories, and not all of them have to do with STDs. I'd explain more, but I don't want to be banned. So Jim may like other guys, he just doesn't want to do the nasty.
RailFoxen Vociferator
Joined: 01 Jan 2005
Posts: 625
Posted: 5/3/2005 9:18:52 PM
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He seems to use the 'fear of banning' excuse fairly often. Is there any record of the admins previously threatening him, are there similar artists they've dropped the hammer on? Or is he trying not to offend his fan club? 'Yeah, I used to follow that Scarlet P.I., but I found out the artist is a homophobe... the comic just doesn't look as attractive as it used to.'
Scarlet is to Gonterman as Mr. Hand is to Mr. Garrison.
Then who is like Mr. Slave?
Mr. Slave is a FAG now, meaning in the Gonterworld he's General Zoisite.
FoxFire morphs back into Human Mode, which caused Zoisite to remember.
A young boy who's unpopular and effeminate. Zoey tried to force this child into the Gay lifestile, but the boy turned away. he was promptly labeled as a Homosexual afterward, which took what pieces he had left of getting any friends or respect from his teachers and grinds them into dust.
"I hated you all my life, FAG."
FoxFire lets spittle fly on the FAGs as he morphs back into Fox Mode.
"You riuned almopst half of mah life, FAG. I was *never* allowed to live what you did to me down, FAG, and I'm going to take some payback out of your AIDS-ridden, maggot infested, perverted hide, FAG!!"
He seems to use the 'fear of banning' excuse fairly often. Is there any record of the admins previously threatening him, are there similar artists they've dropped the hammer on? Or is he trying not to offend his fan club? 'Yeah, I used to follow that Scarlet P.I., but I found out the artist is a homophobe... the comic just doesn't look as attractive as it used to.'
Well, you know, they're TEH ART NAZIES...
Gargu,
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And DA got even Her-Who-Can't-Be-Named-For-Some-Reason-Don't-Know-Why-It's-Not-Fair-You-Know-Guys-It's-Just-A-Three-Letter-Word banned (and then also failed to compansate by showing off her boobs like a Wayd Wolf's wife) :evil:
I can't get over the damn southern drawl. I know it should be the least bothering thing about gontercomix, but I can't help the feeling that they're going to break out the guitar and do a country song about male to female zoot suit Jesus.
Stoneth Needs to get out more
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 1225
Posted: 5/9/2005 5:19:02 PM
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I can't get over the damn southern drawl. I know it should be the least bothering thing about gontercomix, but I can't help the feeling that they're going to break out the guitar and do a country song about male to female zoot suit Jesus.
I think Gonty wanted to make the new Scarlet into a combination of Sally Acorn (the colors and outfit) and Bunnie Rabbot (the voice).
The New Meat Needs to get out more
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Posts: 933
Posted: 6/29/2005 12:13:51 AM
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Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it.
Captain Cowgirl Needs to get out more
Joined: 27 May 2005
Posts: 1091
Posted: 6/30/2005 1:31:56 AM
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Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.Do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Just do it. Just do it. Do it. Do it.
Watching Gonterman's comics get progressively worse and stupider is like watching Michael Jackson slowly turn into Joan Rivers(You wait, he's almost there). Amusing, yet sad at the same time.
Beauty of Nature Prattler
Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 178
Posted: 8/16/2005 9:21:58 AM
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I had him on my DA watchlist for over a year and recently decided that my mental health was more important than to satisfy my trainwreck syndrome. So I had to erase my devwatch to his gallery.
I'm also amused by his SI piece, "Lost Boy Found." It started out as a melodramatic story about how he was taken into a fantasy land afer being bullied in elementary school. Oh noes!
Now, it's going to be some insane Peter Pan thing. It's not up yet, but you can gape at the horrible drawings he's done. I like how he describes it as "a modern anime setting" and thinks his idea is marketable. Right. Replacing Peter Pan with yourself is so original!
And notice that he's still got the fox-eared robot chick in it. :roll:
Monkey King Vociferator
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 459
Posted: 9/7/2005 2:08:37 PM
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Someone should really tell him that if he didn't bear down so hard with his pencil, his erasure lines wouldn't be so noticeable. Or he could learn to do actual B&W ink drawings, or make at least some overtures of progressing as an artist.
Someone should really tell him that if he didn't bear down so hard with his pencil, his erasure lines wouldn't be so noticeable. Or he could learn to do actual B&W ink drawings, or make at least some overtures of progressing as an artist.
But that would be constructive criticism, which is against the rules in the furry fandom. You might hurt someone's feelings!
baserock love Vociferator
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
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Posted: 9/8/2005 6:04:30 AM
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Someone should really tell him that if he didn't bear down so hard with his pencil, his erasure lines wouldn't be so noticeable. Or he could learn to do actual B&W ink drawings, or make at least some overtures of progressing as an artist.
I hope nobody does. The hilarity of gonterman would deminish a little if his drawing skills acctually exceeded his writing skills. I would say there about dead even at this point.
It would be like if pauly shore had acctual acting talent but was still only put into terrible movies. It would be less unintentionally hilarious.
Paul Needs to get out more
Joined: 01 Feb 2004
Posts: 1092
Posted: 9/8/2005 8:59:02 PM
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Brave Scarlett disarms the evul, cursing bank robber with japanese sound effects!
YI-KON!!!
http://www.deviantart.com/view/22447722/
That link leads to Captain Bill and Rotato (whatever the hell kinda in-joke that is...). You must mean this - WHAMMO!! (btw how is "AN' Y'S NEXT" pronounced?)
Furries make me weep because they LOVE TO RAPE SOUTHERN ACCENTS.
....Of course, everyone loves to rape Southern accents, but somehow it just seems worse when an ugly dog thing starts spewing crap about "Mah, Ah'm just feelin' so yiffay tahnight."
Is it me, or does Davey have appealinfamy outside of furries? That Daveykins' fans are from the teeming anime masses...
Hm.. "Sabrina Online" produces results...
Note that it is a stub. So is http://www.comixpedia.org/index.php/Furry . However, http://www.comixpedia.org/index.php/Anthropomorphic is not a stub. Also, there is no entry for Better Days. Our dear friend/fiend Green Reaper has nothing to fear here. It seems to be dancing around the cesspool, never diving in.
Addendum: It's interesting to note the cross-contanimination here
Stoneth Needs to get out more
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 1225
Posted: 11/9/2005 5:24:48 AM
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That's a pretty piss poor article on DaveyKins. Fuck, *I* could write a longer and more thorough article on the man. Oh and nice avatar, Donny. I am now even more gay for you ... or is it straight in this case?
It's interesting to note the cross-contanimination here
Well the description sounds like someone decided to take Space Ark and make it even worse.
Unfortunately I can't say anything about the actual comic since the site seems to be broken and just keeps returning "an error occurred while processing this directive". Hooray for PHP!
Expect some pages on my new apartment soon, as well as some needed and hopefully fruitful attempts to gain some extra income that will be used to help maintian said apartment, like a Print account with artwork you could tell that I worked a lot on, like a combination CG with an Impressionist background, like the upcomming Shazell Print. If you have any other suggestions and willingness to buy commissions off me, please let me know.
Expect some pages on my new apartment soon, as well as some needed and hopefully fruitful attempts to gain some extra income that will be used to help maintian said apartment, like a Print account with artwork you could tell that I worked a lot on, like a combination CG with an Impressionist background, like the upcomming Shazell Print. If you have any other suggestions and willingness to buy commissions off me, please let me know.
(falls over)
Oh, yeah, isn't it the greatest thing when the most horribly inept offer to sell commissions and ask for donations?
It's not worth a new thread, but a for instance, which is still funny.
http://www.tokyomanga.com/hamsters-city/
Looks like it's done by a 10 year old, and begging for $500 in donations. Best part of it? They only have $500 to go.
She looks like shes terrified, held at gunpoint to wear the stupid thing and fake a smile. I guess this is how Gonterman's creations havent rebelled against him yet, he controls them through fear.
Barry Scott Prattler
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 152
Posted: 11/29/2005 4:23:00 AM
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I'm too scared to click the link! If it can make you lot cry then I'm sure I don't want to see that. It's late and I want to be able to close my eyes without seeing something like that!
CYD audience, as imagined by David Gonterman (not really).
And think... It is Daveykins himself in that living furry suit! Merry Nightmares!
She looks like shes terrified, held at gunpoint to wear the stupid thing and fake a smile. I guess this is how Gonterman's creations havent rebelled against him yet, he controls them through fear.
It's the sort of thing you'd expect to see if a scary tattooed man had you taped to a chair, showing you slides of his victims.
In fact, that only way you'll see Sailor Moon on my site is tourtured, raped, and murdered.
Update (unrelated):
David's deepful thoughts about Native Americans, in his new(?) self-insertion (of course) Power Rangers/Sonic crossover story, Piasa. Also some confessions about "mental illness" and more.
Like why did some PC Thought Police idiot group picket the world opening of Disney's newest flick, 'Pocahontas?' What were they to gain by saying that a harmless movie is bad history? I mean, I have seen this film with my friends and none of us found anything wrong with it. Everybody was surprised to find a balanced image between Powahatan Tribe and the English Explorers, but that's getting out of the subject.
This is where our cyborg friend comes in, only he's not a cyborg yet; that comes later.
Our hero's name's Davey Crockett, a college student, aspiring artist, and chronic daydreamer. You'll won't know him, he's not the sociable type. My--ahem--sources tell me that he got a case of mental illness several years after high school; I guess that if you get nagged by your parents day in and day out to get a job that just ain't there in the real world, you'll sink into depression too. He's been doing okay now with counseling and Prosac up to the point where the PC mob at the theater caught him talking with me, Jason and Trini over the movie.
Man, it was a miracle that Davey got all four of us in his car and got away before they tried to scalp him, or whatever they had in their sick little minds
Imaginary friends ahoy! Also some about black citiziens:
Two white cops had to use their night-sticks to stop a black gang-banger on PCP. The cops were tried but they were found innocent. The black community started to protest in the streets. The media did their spin on the whole thing. The Republican-controlled congress in Washington went on TV and warned people not to riot like the people in South Central did. One person got up and shouted something about a lack of compassion, or some other Politically Correct phrase. One thing led to another, and before anyone knew it, there was fighting in the streets, burning cars, and all-around rioting and looting in the heartland.
It stands nicely with his views on Arabs and Muslims in general. And you think Naylor's omg racist :)
For example, Davey had an African-American history teacher with way too much attitude last fall, who got up in front of the whole class and called him a racist to his face, only because he was sick and tired of having the slavery issue rubbed in his face like a bad dog that wet the bed. I said that she was full of B.S., and that he was definitely not racist in saying that. Angry, yes, but not oficcialy racist. Besides, my mother told me that it's just not right to visit the sins of the fathers onto their children. However, the question over Davey's feelings toward Multicultuarism will crop up to haunt him later in this story.
The best part is towards the end. After another anti-Davey attack by the evil/black teacher:
I tackled that witch to the ground and asked her why. She said something about getting back at his ancestors for what they did to her ancestors. I would've killed her if Jason hadn't pried me off.
I was still angry over Davey's condition though. I would rather see him dead than having him wake up with a good excuse to join the Klan. I mean, he had a future with that left arm. He was going to college to get an art degree. He was going to make something for himself, something nobody expected him to do.
Stoneth Needs to get out more
Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 1225
Posted: 12/1/2005 4:34:47 PM
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CYD audience, as imagined by David Gonterman (not really).
Sashimi and Bukkake, actually. I don't know if DaveyKins even knows aboot CYD.
Update (unrelated):
David's deepful thoughts about Native Americans, in his new(?) self-insertion (of course) Power Rangers/Sonic crossover story, Piasa. Also some confessions about "mental illness" and more.
New? Hardly, this fic was made sometime after Pocahontas was released (1995) and also reffers to rat.org being active (and indeed, I remember rat.org used to host a lot of DaveyKins' fanfics and art).
Uh, Foxie, was that true about the part where he tried to make you gay?
FoxFire noonded to Sailor Moon.
Update for: paid commission by David Gonterman! For some reason I find this one more disturbing than usual stuff... I think it's this expression of a total terror.
I'm... trying to understand exactly what the fuck goes on in Gonterman's Head. It's like he lives in extremes.
"GAYS ARE SATANIC"
*flip*
"GAYS R KOOL N I HAVE GAYS IN ALL OF MY COMIKS LOL"
What I find hilarious (or frightening) Is that he wrote a whole chapter of sailor moon fanfiction pretty much bashing a gay guy, then he goes off a few years later and has a guy wearing a fursuit that has titties and apparently is incontinent (Pi, Pi , Pi? Get it? HAHAHA I'M FUNNY LIKE GONTERMAN LOLZ).
Also, after reading that stinky turd Piasa, I have to say: I don't think the NAACP is going to be giving Gonterman an A on their report card anytime soon.
And as for "Blood and Metal", it never fails to amuse me how Gonterman can make a stinky pile of shit (read: Sonic) even MORE TERRIBLE with the simple addition of one character. Retarded self-insert, thy name is Davey Crockett.
I'm... trying to understand exactly what the fuck goes on in Gonterman's Head. It's like he lives in extremes.
"GAYS ARE SATANIC"
*flip*
"GAYS R KOOL N I HAVE GAYS IN ALL OF MY COMIKS LOL"
Gonterman in a nutshell has no redeeming values; plain and simple.
But, he did provide for a picture that I am going to archive.
Maybe even...improve on it.
MonicaKitty Vociferator
Joined: 24 Feb 2005
Posts: 663
Posted: 12/3/2005 12:23:40 AM
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Wow...I've been gone like four months and people are still dissecting the enigma that is Gonterman. Who'd have thought the guy could be so deep and intriguiging. Someday, he'll be part of school curriculums, right next to science books about Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs to Church. =)
>Yikes! No need to blatently nitpick and flame! We were all "newbies" once
>too, ya know. It would be nice if we could politely direct them to a good
>website instead of screaming, "YOU'RE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!" and stripping
>down their courage to post by one by one pointing out every "error" they
>make. Let's show a little respect here, please.
Yeah, the above actually happened to two newsgroups already,
alt.fan.furry and alt.fan.sonic-hedgehog. Ever went to a public place
where nobody wanted you?
David Gonterman---------DGonter...@aol.com-----------------
Even furries fursecuted David... in a public place!
By 2001, David Gonterman was a legendary creature. From alt.fan.furry:
>I must know. It's bugging me. Big time. Is David Gonterman a real person or
>is he some sort of bizarre whacked-out parody?? Actually, it's *worrying*
>me. No, really. I am not kidding you good people.
Yes, David Gonterman is a real person. At least, there is a real person who
uses that nom de plume for his fanfiction. And I'm not surprised at your
reaction. Others have had that same feeling for years.... <VBG>
Philip Savage Prattler
Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 129
Posted: 12/3/2005 7:58:15 AM
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We foxes
have the 4dx2-66 megamothers with 16meg, 540 Meg HD--stackered of
course--24.4 modems--Need I go on Ed?
most of us foxes have AT LEAST
a 486 DX/4 100 with 20 megs of RAM and 3.3 gigs of hard drive space.
They're so nerdy I COULD STRANGLE THEM! If you ask me, MOST foxes appear to be more concerned with mauling that rabbit they have their eye on instead of their hard drive space.
P.S. Putting the word "foxes" after every pronoun in a sentence will clearly not change these people into them. First chance I get, I'll kill either one of them.
Sorry it didn't submit the size it was; basically Tommy is listing off a long list of things that Gonter would say in surprise, "how did you find out".
Tommy
...the swiss bank accounts, and so on. The money trail seems to end with you, Gonterman. And of course with all those donations for your art, that would make you a virtual entrepenuer. So, my question is why have all this green (money) just so you can spend it on stuff toys in the trunk of your car? Are they the silent partners you kept hiding?
Gonterman
GAK!! How in the world did you find that out, Tommy!?
I wonder if he's sent his Scarlet comic to random gay people. :P
Is he actually getting better!?! That character looks almost not like something drawn by an epileptic ten year old.
I guess it's because of a loose clothes, you don't see much there.
Gonterman will hit 40 in a few years (he's 37 now). But remember, it's because evil negro teacher blew off his hand, after he rescued the town. He would get to the art school with this hand... And now he draws with his penis. I think.
Well, I'm sure it's tiny enough for detailed drawings. It's shame he doesn't have any experience using it or he could actually create something of value.
...we're sharing the skies with a violent chunk of an whole religion who'd have no qualms of blowing us all to hell while another chunk of an whole planet waits with full bladders to use what's left of our carcasses as a global urinal.
Had he left it at "a violent chunk" I'd agree because, well, it is a violent chunk. :roll: But then he goes on to "an whole religion" whatever that means so I guess he's just found someone else to angast about.
It ain't something you'd like to mention too often if you can consider yourself a predecessor of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
"AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUN FIRE !!!!!!!"?
We all know of someone who was labeled the uber-fag in school. (Note to Homosexuals: When a schoolchild is being called a 'Fag', sexual identity is the least of his problems.)
Okay, David.
I began my gradual return to the real world, using the Internet and my own very nurtured imagination to build my own place in the human race.
MonicaKitty Vociferator
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Posts: 663
Posted: 12/15/2005 3:23:42 PM
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Can Global Positioning Satellites replacing the second star to the right; “...that? only works in London.” Can the Internet can be used to clap a fairy back to life. Can the internal combustion engine work with Pixie Dust Nitros? What would happen if Captain Hook goes up against Joint Strike Fighters? And would he upgrade his hook with a bio-mechanical prosthesis?
FoxFire Studios web site and all related code (CC) 2005 David "Daveykins FoxFire" Gonterman, and the stories and characters herin are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License, unless noted prior to this paragraph. This license allows you to blah blah blah, blah blah, blah. The stories, characters, and incidents mentioned herein are completely fictional, and all resemblances are purely coincidental.
The stereotypical Mary Sue may be tougher, smarter, and cooler than the established characters and so win their admiration. Alternately, the Sue may be nicer, sweeter, and more charming than the established characters (often despite being tortured by a tragic past) and win their love. Either way, the setting's protagonists are upstaged by the new character's perfection. If this new character dies in the story (typically as an act of self-sacrifice), other characters may memorialize her with excessive grieving.
Mary Sue characters are generally marked by over-description with extraneous, seemingly tacked-on paragraphs describing in great detail their distinctive appearance or possessions, even if they have no significance for the plot and seem out of place. For example, a Mary Sue would not merely be said to carry a gun. The model, colour, appearance, and special features of the gun would be described all at once.
"Why'd you become interested in him, Pocahontas? You're not into this cyberpunk stuff like Davey."
"Well, he views computers, this internet network, cyberspace, and what other stuff in this cyberpunk thing; with the same reverance that I put in the land. To him, the computer has a life, a soul, and a name just like I see in a tree. In a way, we're very much alike, in diffrent worlds, that is.
I'm happy to report that as of this weekend, I've got a Windows Machine up and running so I can use the programs I need it for. Of course, I had to jury rig a box with some bootleg software, it can't get online so I have to rely on CD-Rs and Jump Drives, and I found out the hard way that my Linspire Machine needs more RAM, but otherwise I'm very much good to go for here on out. Good enough so it seems that I got my DA Print Account and started to put out prints for some to buy.
I just can't believe he seriously thinks he can sell these pics for a real money... Not even to furries, because he don't even do any furry pr0n I know about.
MagKnightX Vociferator
Joined: 04 Dec 2003
Posts: 415
Posted: 12/20/2005 6:42:52 PM
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Also, what the hell is going on here? Seriously, I just don't get a thing there.
Easy. The government has found a fucked-up fox-human hybrid that speaks no language known on Earth. It's obviously an alien genetic experiment, so they've quarantined it.