Crush...Yiff...Destroy!

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Jesus Christ. I'd been holding off, but this is just too fucking stupid. Oh noes! A corporation may have lied to a private foundation! Clearly the government needs to intervene!

"It appears that the publisher has blatantly circumvented the rules in order to peddle sexually explicit material to our youth," says one voter-fellating congressman. Where 'youth' means teenagers 17 years of age in America, or 18 now that the AO rating has gone through. Democratic party sweetheart Senator Hillary Clinton chimes in, "We should all be deeply disturbed that a game which now permits the simulation of lewd sexual acts in an interactive format with highly realistic graphics has fallen into the hands of young people across the country." Never mind the fact that 'highly realistic graphics' never really applied to the GTA series - they still don't have fingers - ignore the opinion that tapping X isn't quite interactive, and forget that dry humping is hardly sexually explicit. This wouldn't be at all possible without the Internet - which itself is a massive storehouse of actual human beings engaging in acts of penetration! OMG, alert Congress! The are children on the Internets!

Meanwhile famed public defender Jack Thompson compares the head of the ESA to Hitler, automatically losing the Internet in the process. For a victory lap he declared The Sims 2 to be a "paedophile's paradise" after reasoning there must be a similar mod that could disable the privacy-blur on the game's children.

No word on a patch that makes the PC version of San Andreas playable. Congress should be lenient in this case, as the combination of San Andreas, Windows, and any sound card makes the game hilariously unstable.

Also, seriously... what's the difference between this and the strip shows in Vice City? Vice's Pole Position strippers are available to children right from the first mission of the game. Perhaps no one noticed, because the models are so goddamn ugly no one actually watched them... and I think she's wearing a thong, but maybe it's just a tan line. The texturing is just that bad.

Dr. Mojo · Vociferator Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 399

Also, seriously... what's the difference between this and the strip shows in Vice City? Vice's Pole Position strippers are available to children right from the first mission of the game. Perhaps no one noticed, because the models are so goddamn ugly no one actually watched them... and I think she's wearing a thong, but maybe it's just a tan line. The texturing is just that bad.

Of all places, this forum should've taught you at least this: People can jerk off to anything.

Mitch · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 658

These people are gross opportunists ready to jump on any bandwagon that'll give them 15 minutes in the spotlight. And how come it's always the sexual aspects that get them all het up and complaining but they say nothing about the violence in the GTA series? What kind of pixillated fairyland do you have to live in where consensual dryhumping is going to warp kids' minds and blowing the heads and limbs off ingame pedestrians isn't?

SkunkDogFromSpace · Venter Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 222

This was pretty funny :D
They all are propably pedo's who got offended when they got aroused while playing the sims or something, haha!

If the children are not allowed to not be pixelized, do they attack on every 2-year old girl without shirt on the streets too? i saw one last week, and no one seemed to pay any attention to her.

Sometimes i wonder what've made those people so hypocrite? Isn't it just good if the pedo's/perv's jerk off to a video game rather than the actual thing? i don't think no pedo will go:
"Oh! Yay! A naked game-children! I think i got so horny that i will go and grab a real one!"
i bet they rather say:
"OMFGBBQ!!!11 Me horny! Me jerks off! *fapfapfapfaoshgdciugv*"
Or something like that..

mouse · Needs to get out more Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 1192

These people are gross opportunists ready to jump on any bandwagon that'll give them 15 minutes in the spotlight. And how come it's always the sexual aspects that get them all het up and complaining but they say nothing about the violence in the GTA series? What kind of pixillated fairyland do you have to live in where consensual dryhumping is going to warp kids' minds and blowing the heads and limbs off ingame pedestrians isn't?

Yeah these people are definately jumping on the opportunity.

Tho, if they had left out all the ridiculous statements, i think the point at the heart of the issue is legitimate. Its just about the rating system being circumvented. (i.e. content a ratings review wouldn't ever find, but that players definatly will) I doubt they did it intentionally, or rather, maliciously, but if the game should have been rated A instead of M, fine, rate the game 'Adult' and fuck Wal-mart. Or they could just remove the material that would get the adult rating. Take Two should know why people play this game - the total mayhem, running around and beating grandmas and hookers with baseball bats.

There is plenty of other places, smaller chains and game outlets to buy GTA. Smaller towns further out where Wal-mart came in and replaced everything - I doubt these places had Electronics Boutique's anyway.

The game being as popular as is it, people will go where they gotta go to buy it. I don't think Take Two has all that much to worry about. Other than parents adamantly against thier kids buying a game with an adult rating on it, which would be understandable. Getting an A rating would probably build up way more mystique around it than would be deserved. But I know kids under 17 play GTA as it is.

What kind of pixillated fairyland do you have to live in where consensual dryhumping is going to warp kids' minds and blowing the heads and limbs off ingame pedestrians isn't?

Listen Mitch, this is America, we dont need no pastey faggots touching themselves to video games. We need killers, WARRIORS. Army recruiting is way down right now and I think heard something on Fox about Syria acting up...

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

on another forum i sometimes go to they had a similar thread and I mentioned that the people who bitch about this are the same people who would complain about beat em and eat em on Seanbaby.

I got banned for 2 weeks for linking to it!

http://seanbaby.com/nes/naughty04.htm <- watch out i guess this is NSFW now!

But seriously these people are morons. I guess the drugs violence and language fit their wholesome family values, but not this.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

I don't remember this much shit flying when Naughty Dog put the topless woman in Rings of Power. You didn't even have to mod the game, just put in a secret code at the title screen. Where were all these brave senators to protect us then?

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Sometimes i wonder what've made those people so hypocrite? Isn't it just good if the pedo's/perv's jerk off to a video game rather than the actual thing? i don't think no pedo will go:

GameFAQs called, they want their furry back.

Well, I guess mainstream America has realized violence in games doesn't actually make people violent. If it did we'd probably be a shotgun worshipping anarchy by now (but really well defended against demons and Nazi zombies). Oh, politicians have tried over the years to ban violent games, after Quake and Columbine, or Manhunt, but it hasn't worked. I'm happy to think they've given up.

But sex is just badly handled. The social structure of high school makes it sound awesome, so there's definitely something lacking in either education or just fucking common sense. It... might... possibly be valid, that games/movies/porn promote the kinds of stupid decisions that lead to... uh, dumbassery like this. But things like that have always happened, and they still do. I get the feeling a lot of parents are just recoiling against stupid decisions they made when they were teenagers. And they do this the easy way, by taking away the kid's toys and isolating him from the world, instead of talking. The kid's going to have his toys, and he's going to sleep around as long as he remains ignorant.

Thus, no one worries their kid is gonna go shoot someone. But everyone worries their kid is gonna get knocked up. Because it happens pretty damn often.

And it's definitely for attention, San Andreas is a big name game. It's everywhere. I think some Inuit communities haven't heard of it, but they're alone. I don't think any game in history has had this level of advertising and coverage on mainstream TV. Politicians are keen to find things they can protect voters from, and what's better than something dangerous IN YOUR VERY HOME? But there are good politicians - Leland Yee, California assemblyman, had a good interview with IGN. There are sane people out there. Clinton is definitely not one of them. And I don't think the government has any business fucking with the ESRB. R* didn't intend to let the material get out, Take-Two might not have had any knowledge of it, and the ESRB has no obligation to go through every resource on the game disc. Next up there'll be complaints about dirty words in the source code.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

And how come it's always the sexual aspects that get them all het up and complaining but they say nothing about the violence in the GTA series? What kind of pixillated fairyland do you have to live in where consensual dryhumping is going to warp kids' minds and blowing the heads and limbs off ingame pedestrians isn't?

Mouse pretty much hit that on the head. The US has a very fucked up sense of morality. To quote an old TMCM comic: "It's rated PG-13. You can bear arms, but you can't bare breasts."

Overall, I totally agree that congress and the political and journalistic talking heads need to shut up and deal with more important issues (Health care, poverty, homelessness, the economy, the environment, ad infinitum). On the other hand though, what the hell did they expect? If you put that kind of crap into a game, PEOPLE WILL FIND IT. There's an entire sub-industry of video gaming devoted to finding hidden crap in games, from strategy guides to GameSharks to people with nothing better to do than look for easter eggs. They should've known better than to try hiding it, and either should've noted that or left it out entirely.

Here's how I see this playing out:
-Congress and media keep talking this up as some big huge issue.
-Rockstar is hit with an enormous and rediculious fine.
-Some talented programmers get fired and blackballed.
-Apathetic public doesn't give a rat's ass.
-Congress eventually passes more restrictive ratings requirements, stifling creativity.
-The ratings, of course, don't restrict violence, since the NRA would go nuts.
-Society remains apathetic and the ratings have absolutely no effect as far as keeping inappropriate content out of the hands of children.

Lather, rinse, repeat in a couple years.

(Also: Dos, answer me when I IM you, damnit! 8) )

Kadius · Needs to get out more Joined: 10 Feb 2004 Posts: 911

So, let's get our priorities straight.

Cursing: Okay
Hookers: Okay
Killing a hooker: Okay
Killing a hooker and taking her money: Okay.
Killing a random person for no apparent reason: Okay.
Gunning down gang members: Okay
Gunning down cops: Okay
Gunnning down innocent people: Okay
Running over cops/gang members/random people: Okay
Bombing cops/gangs/civilians: Okay
Beating them with a baseball bat: Okay
Stealing (anything): Okay.
Game that gives points (money) for above actions: Okay.
Letting kids under 15 play such a game: Okay
'Sex scene' never even appearing in the game without a mod: EVIL.

I like how a game meant for people who're 17+ is having the rating upped top 18+. Even IF the scene was in the main game, I have never in my life heard of a normal 17 year old guy that's never seen anything pornographic.

Edit: Maddox has something to say as usual..

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Ok, why are there no ACTUAL SCREENCAPS of the NAKED HOT SEXXX in GTA? They're all censored! I wanna see what all thse uptight soccer moms are getting so bent out of shape about...

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

There's coverage, time lines, backstory, pictures, et cetera over at GTASanAn.Com. You can Google around for a video of the gameplay, but it's a bit rare, being pretty goofy - here's one. Probably one of the unsexiest things I've ever seen. No, really.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

There's coverage, time lines, backstory, pictures, et cetera over at GTASanAn.Com. You can Google around for a video of the gameplay, but it's a bit rare, being pretty goofy - here's one. Probably one of the unsexiest things I've ever seen. No, really.

That's hilarious. I love how you have to use the up and down levers to thrust.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

There's coverage, time lines, backstory, pictures, et cetera over at GTASanAn.Com. You can Google around for a video of the gameplay, but it's a bit rare, being pretty goofy - here's one. Probably one of the unsexiest things I've ever seen. No, really.

That's hilarious. I love how you have to use the up and down levers to thrust.

You mean that's not how it works in real life?

PS the cheat code for an erection is not UUDDLRLRABBAStart.

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

There's coverage, time lines, backstory, pictures, et cetera over at GTASanAn.Com. You can Google around for a video of the gameplay, but it's a bit rare, being pretty goofy - here's one. Probably one of the unsexiest things I've ever seen. No, really.

That's hilarious. I love how you have to use the up and down levers to thrust.

You mean that's not how it works in real life?

PS the cheat code for an erection is not UUDDLRLRABBAStart.

Type the 'O' key to have an orgasm.
Type 'O 1297' to have a SATISFYING orgasm.

V3Ng3 · Rasophore Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 56

I had sent the Thompson guy an Email, caliming that another popular videogame "Battlefield 2" had phallic imagery (tanks) and modifications that allow players to "See breasts" in general. Providing he bought it and continued reading, I also attached a video. A really, really bad video. A few days later, he replied with "you are a terrible person".

But by thier logic, since there are unfriendly things on the internet like porn and violence, and children are on the internet, theres only one reasonable solution. We have to ban the internet! Its the only way to keep our children safe from things like breasts and whatnot. They are our future, after all.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

V3Ng3 is right! The government should take control of all ISPs posthaste, and install filters to keep us ALL safe from the horrors of the internets!

Dr. Mojo · Vociferator Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 399

I think the whole reason this thing started is because Hillary Clinton wants to say to the public, "Hey, look, Democrats can be upstanding, moral people, too!" without appealing to God, but she's going about it in an utterly retarded way.

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Check out this opinion column in the LA Times. It points out that, hey, things are pretty damned good right now, and maybe we have video games to thank for it.

I'd like to draw your attention to another game whose nonstop violence and hostility has captured the attention of millions of kids — a game that instills aggressive thoughts in the minds of its players, some of whom have gone on to commit real-world acts of violence and sexual assault after playing.
I'm talking, of course, about high school football.

Maybe this will help Clinton understand. Ahahahaharight.

And now grandma is suing. Guess the game was just fine for her 14-year old grandkid when it was rated 17+, but not at 18+...

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Oooh, little drama update over the weekend. Seems venerable and batshit insane industry watchdog Jack Thompson sent a copy of a nasty Email to Scott Ramsoomair, who the furry fucknuts will know for VG Cats. Simple digital gar gar gar over 'Hot Coffee' and Killer 7 for the usual gang of voter-fellating self serving congressmen. Guess Thompson took his little VG Cats cameo appearance a little seriously. Ramsoomair trolls back, Thompson forgot he sent the first Email, Thompson goes all e-laywer, lulz ensue. Correspondence in entirety here. Tim Buckley of CAD joins the game with I LAWSUITE!

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

Scott is the man.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

I desperately urge him to send one more e-mail back to Thompson, just to call his hand. I'd be prepared to deal with the hassle of legal proceedings, just to see this assclown get smacked down, seeing as how e-mail logs will reveal that he did, in fact, start it.

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

This jack thompson guy is an opportunist of the worst kind. He doesn't want gta to be AO rated so only 18 yearolds can play it (as opposed to 17 yearolds :\). He wants NOBODY to play these games cuz sales will go to absolute shit since most major chains don't sell AO ratings. But mainly of course, he wants free publicity (he's got his own law business of course).

What really pisses me off he's turned his sights now to Killer7 ( http://cube.ign.com/articles/630/630908p1.html ), which is one of the best games I've played in years, a total mind fuck. But what's super gay is that he's going for an AO rating for Killer7 due to the IGN review of it that states that there is a "Full blown sex scene" and that is the sole reason why he's going after it. He never played the game of course but this "full blown sex scene" Consists of a girl, fully clothed riding an old man who's fully clothed in a wheel chair for about 5 seconds. It only shows her from the chest up and all it shows is her bouncing and moaning suggestively. There is not one boobie in the whole game.

But what's funny is that Killer7 is hands down the most twistedly violent and disturbing game i've ever seen. He's got his panties all in a bunch over this pg13 sex scene when in other areas the game depicts:

(WARNING, SPOILERS, if you intend to get the game)

A man shooting a hooker in the face then rolling into an office building and executing 7 or 8 people

A secret child torture chamber that has the skins of dead little girls hung up on meat hooks adorning the walls of a hallway.

A man that tortures this guy by telling him he killed his family, when the guy doesn't believe him he tosses his teenage daughters head into his lap before plugging him with about 15 bullets to the head.

A sky that rains blood

The sentient dacapitated head of a teenage girl that talks to you and gives you clues.

A black market orphan trade where they kill the children so they can harvest they're organs to create suicide bomber creatures.

A girl that chops the dick off her would be rapist :D (not acctually shown)

A thirteen year old boy that assisinates 5 hotel rooms full of people.

ETC!

And he's all up in arms over the words "Full blown sex scene", he didn't mention the really fucked up shit even once. That just proves that he doesn't give a shit about the children he just wants his name in the paper, i wouldn't be surprised if he ran for political office after this all dies down.

P.S. if you got gamecube, buy killer7

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Well, if you look close enough, EVERYTHING has sexual innuendo.
These people are just looking for something to bitch and moan about.

Captious Tyro · Rasophore Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 51

Here's a theory, these are just bitter people who only get turned on by violence and are trying to protect their fetish while getting revenge on gaming nerds by removing any hint of sex.

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

Well, if you look close enough, EVERYTHING has sexual innuendo.
These people are just looking for something to bitch and moan about.

;)

Captain Cowgirl · Needs to get out more Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Well, if you look close enough, EVERYTHING has sexual innuendo.
These people are just looking for something to bitch and moan about.

;)

Exactly. :P

EFudd · Prattler Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 139

So with all that in mind about; violence=good, teh sechs=bad, it makes me relieze something.

Don't our elected representitives have more important tasks to be doing verses this absolute bullshit?
I mean c'mon, kids were sneeking into R rated and prono movies for decades! And yet a few games that give low-poly "action" take fire from these jerk offs for thier own moment in the spotlight.

With all that extra energy you think they could be working on Iraq, or the economy, or maybe the energy crisis.

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

That would require work. They're too busy extending Daylight Savings Time so they can pretend they actually passed an energy bill instead of something that just looks the part.

m_estrugo · Vociferator Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 534

All of a sudden, memories of a certain... documentary from the 60s I found on the Prelinger Archives.

"The military chaplains association of the United States, practically every major fraternal, civic and religious organization, the juvenile court judges, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, innumerable psychiatrists, sociologists, and psychologists attribute the moral decay among our people in very large part to the obscene and pornographic literature so prevalent in our society. This moral decay weakens our resistance to the onslaught of the Communist masters of deceit!"
...
“Oh God, deliver us, Americans, from evil.”

It's awesome to see how things have changed in these forty years, and how conservatives have... also... oh, forget it.

Dr. Dos · Vociferator Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 718

All you have to do is supply a word filter for any documents to replace Communist with Terrorist

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Oh, and I found this wonderful article, with more information and links to proof of Thompson's rampant madness. I would so love the nuclear option.

I suppose federal judges by and large don't have a problem with mental molestation of children with murder simulators.

LOL LAWYERS

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

God I hate that Jack thompson guy SO MUCH. He's just this decrepit old bastard who doesn't even know WHAT THE FUCK HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

Apparently even though I've played GTA repeatedly, I must have somehow missed that hidden child molestor simulation scene! DURRR.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

So with all that in mind about; violence=good, teh sechs=bad, it makes me relieze something.

Don't our elected representitives have more important tasks to be doing verses this absolute bullshit?
I mean c'mon, kids were sneeking into R rated and prono movies for decades! And yet a few games that give low-poly "action" take fire from these jerk offs for thier own moment in the spotlight.

With all that extra energy you think they could be working on Iraq, or the economy, or maybe the energy crisis.

But this stuff is important to many Americans. It's part of the cultural war now fought over the soul of America. After decades of ever increasing moral liberalism, the puritanical and reactionary forces are trying to reclaim America - a return to what they believe are true American values. You know, "family/Christian values", school prayer, "right to life", no sex before marriage, absolutely no porn or even half-naked people (but lots of guns) etc. I'm not saying there's some grand conspiracy at foot here, but for 5 to 10 years now there's definitely been a multi-faceted attempt to turn back much of the societal evolution in the USA. Hence Jack Thompson. The political aspect of this is the rise of the religious right in the Republican Party, and thus the elected representatives have this on their agenda.

Osfer · Rasophore Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 56

And the rest of the world sees these developments and thinks all yanks are gun-crazed body-phobes and mock them as if they were all of the same cut. And so more Americans find themselves lured in by the claims that a new society is needed because the old model, as still practiced in such backward places as Europe, is clearly shit.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

The elected representatives are shitheads. Period.

And the reason these people are against teh secks is because no one wants to fuck them.

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

... So the cause of all this political dickery is a massive case of blueballs?

That's not entirely unreasonable. I mean jesus, take a look at some of them. Even Paris Hilton wouldn't have sex with them!

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

Have you guys ever watched C-span? Congress is a leper colony...

I still don't think ANYONE who makes an 7 digit salary or above represents me. Yet, that is our choices; rich fatass bastards who love being rich fatass bastards or rich fatass bastards who are deluded into thinking they are the common man.

Foxid · Venter Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 298

There -ARE- the rare "common man" politicians, but they're extremely few and far between, and even if they do manage to get into office, the chances of them making any kind of difference are slim to none.

It's a government "By the people, for the people", where "people" are citizens with exceptionally high incomes. Just like "Liberty and justice for those who can afford it".

IceCat · Venter Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 244

Have you guys ever watched C-span? Congress is a leper colony...

I still don't think ANYONE who makes an 7 digit salary or above represents me. Yet, that is our choices; rich fatass bastards who love being rich fatass bastards or rich fatass bastards who are deluded into thinking they are the common man.

Sounds just like the president on down too.

Guido · Rasophore Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 68

You know, I would expect as much from the right wingers... but I swear to god I am just going to punch Hillary Clinton in the balls over and over.

Troggler · Venter Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 246

Join the club. Nothing sickens me more then some irritating politician jumping on a bandwagon just to get their chances for election up, but it just seems so... worse and traitorous somehow to see that from Hillary.

Paul · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1092

There -ARE- the rare "common man" politicians, but they're extremely few and far between, and even if they do manage to get into office, the chances of them making any kind of difference are slim to none.

It's a government "By the people, for the people", where "people" are citizens with exceptionally high incomes. Just like "Liberty and justice for those who can afford it".

Perhaps it wouldn't be like that if so many Americans weren't so politically apathetic. I mean, voter turnout in US elections is usually only about 50%, which is ridiculous. In other Western democracies, voter turnout in national elections is usually 70-90%. Get up and vote, ya lazy bums!

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

Posted by paul
Perhaps it wouldn't be like that if so many Americans weren't so politically apathetic. I mean, voter turnout in US elections is usually only about 50%, which is ridiculous. In other Western democracies, voter turnout in national elections is usually 70-90%. Get up and vote, ya lazy bums!

The problem is that one's vote doesn't count for much anymore. For every informed vote being cast, three other votes are cast by people swayed by emotional appeals and mudslinging. Our president made it back into office on a platform of "VOTE FOR BUSH OR THE TERRORISTS WILL BLOW UP YOUR BABIES". If I could be bothered to research previous campaign tactics, I'd expect to see the exact same tactics working all through history.

Even if you mobilized every single person in the country to vote, the results would be the same. An educated vote is outweighed by the sheer volume of stupid, gullible people in this country. I don't know if the political system is any better in other countries, or if people there just haven't caught on yet, but in all honesty there's just not a very compelling reason anymore. No amount of voter participation will change our country from being a representational plutocracy, because the rich people will only endorse their own.

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

Breaking news: American juries not stupid.

An Alabama jury considering the case of 20 year old Devin Moore for the murder of three police officers has rejected his insanity defense and claims that he was unduly influenced by Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.

But drama tourists need not worry, as Jack Thompson is taking the case straight to Wal-Mart!

"VOTE FOR BUSH OR THE TERRORISTS WILL BLOW UP YOUR BABIES"

Actually, it was 'VOTE FOR BUSH OR THE LIBERALS WILL DESTROY YOUR JOBS'.

And you expected anything different from Ms. 'It takes a village to raise a child' Clinton?

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

If I could be bothered to research previous campaign tactics, I'd expect to see the exact same tactics working all through history.

No, this is a recent trend, which sadly started with the straight-ticket voting for the dems during FDR's term. Of course, it didn't help that the GOP couldn't feild a rival who wasn't a fatcat dickwad back then, but still...

You will never again have close elections like Truman and Dewey, yet all elections are bound to be close. The issue isn't that people are swayed easily, but the opposite. Instead of the people deciding at the time of election, they make their minds up beforehand, and it becomes an issue of getting as many partisans on your side out to the polls as possible.

I say the next election they run Zell Miller and Rudy Guliani, just to get every dumbass to stop it with this Liberals=Democrats and Conservatives=Republicans crap. I'm honestly upset I didn't cast mine for Nader last time...

Monkey King · Vociferator Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 459

51 - 49 isn't a close vote?

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

You will never again have close elections like Truman and Dewey, yet all elections are bound to be close. The issue isn't that people are swayed easily, but the opposite. Instead of the people deciding at the time of election, they make their minds up beforehand, and it becomes an issue of getting as many partisans on your side out to the polls as possible.

I mean decision wise, there aren't any close calls. Statistically, yes, the last two general elections were close.

RailFoxen · Vociferator Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 625

HAY EVERYBODY GOOD NEWS THERE IS A PATCH FOR SAN ANDREAS THAT LOCKS OUT ALL THAT NASTY HOT COFFEE STUFF oh and it also corrects several critical stability flaws and now allows the game to run for more than 15 minutes before locking and fixes several broken scripts and timing issues and about a dozen common bugs in the audio system but that isn't important BECAUSE GAMERS DEMAND CLEAN GAMES WITH NO SMUT.

I just know I'm going to be yelled at for pushing this thread off topic.

Oh, hey, Jack's back! And it looks like he's gonna get medieval on Bill Gates' ass!

baserock love · Vociferator Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Posts: 685

LOL, i think mister jack just lost all credibility

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000743063662/

I remember when he was hyping this too, he was serious and double dog dared anybody to do it.

Ruphia · Qualificator Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 24

I'm loving the Penny Arcade drama he's been in lately. Thoroughly owned, because they're paying the money he was to much of a chickenshit to pony up.

Wayd Wolf · Vociferator Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 679

If Jack Thompson didn't exist, the fevered tinfoil hat imaginations of Slashdotters would have caused his coalescence from the ether. Batshit insane doesn't begin to describe him. Edwin Meese perhaps. Maybe even Al Goldstein. Not Jack. He is in a special class.