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IceCat
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Posted: 7/28/2005 1:24:44 AM
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Looks like alot of neocon idiocy too
Yep it sure does, it's got it all, Real NeoCon heros, Ollie "Reagans fall guy, and patsy" North, G. Gorden "Watergate plumber and former Nixon thug" Liddy, And Sean "Attack Poodle" Hanerrty, as well. They run a underground group called, and you'll love this, "Freedom Of Information League. And i goes on, way too much comic irony here, The thing is a joke, too bad it's actually going to see the light of publication.
I wont be buying one, but I guess there will be alot of neocon suckers doing so. |
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Xarai
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Posted: 7/28/2005 2:19:21 AM
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Faithmouse is classic as far as conservative comics that make no sense go.
I'm sure Jack Chick has beaten this guy to the "first conservative comic book", regardless. |
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mouse
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Posted: 7/28/2005 2:31:25 AM
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hahaha !!
I might have to pick up a copy ! I dont mind giving up some cash to thier cause if its that damn funny :)
"where a U.N. empowered, ultra-liberal government, has made being a vocal conservative illegal."
Jesus christ! wow.. Victim Complex? No way, couldn't be..
Ultimately, its all just a slap in the face of reality, when you take into account how heavily derided the ACLU (for ex.) is by the right-wing. Or that the Neo-cons currently control the executive, legislative and probably soon, the judicial branch... or uhhh... that we arn't fighting a "sensitive" war on terror. Hello? McFly?! We are already fighting a war on two fronts now.. Iraq.. and also Afghanistan... what the fuck else do these people want?
Go ahead! lets invade Syria AND Iran.. Tomarrow! There's a reason they haven't dudes, and it has nothing to do with liberals, lefties, commies, and other assorted anti-war protestors. Fuck, anyone with a simple understanding of the past few years events should know that the government does what it wants, regardless of public opinion. There was the largest anti-war protests since Vietnam all over the US and the world... before the fucking Iraq war even started! That was a historical precedent right there.. and what difference did it make? Jack Shit.
But all that doesnt even matter - this comic exists for one purpose - to whip people up into a (more) hysterical patriotic frenzy. I'd almost think it was a left-wing plot to make the right-wing look dumb as all hell, but I know better. I know people actually think this way.
What kind of person would make Sean Hannity into a comic book superhero anyway? |
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weird_guy_in_the_corner
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Posted: 7/28/2005 2:42:56 AM
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Are all conservatives such dickweeds? I mean, the comic pisses all over the UN, including countries like France, Spain, Canada, and Germany. Not to mention the fact that bin Laden thanks "President Clinton and Vice President Moore...If it were not for American leaders such as them, I would not be here today." Meaning, I guess, that Clinton and Moore are responsible for bin Laden's existence. I suppose liberals wouldn't be so hated if they didn't try to kiss everyone's asses, but neocons seem to think that liberals would greet Osama with open arms if given the chance, which is just the height of absurdity. |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 7/28/2005 2:43:29 AM
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What kind of person would make Sean Hannity into a comic book superhero anyway?
Probably the same kind of person who masturbates to pictures of Ann Coulter.
Anyways, that church mouse comic is freaking creepy. There are surprisingly, some other Christian furry comics online. One of them is 'Vicki Fox', I think. That one has a links to a bunch of others. |
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GoManVanGogh
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Posted: 7/28/2005 4:48:12 AM
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WAR IS PEACE..... IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH..... FREEDOM IS SLAVERY..... |
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mouse
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Posted: 7/28/2005 5:31:36 AM
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Are all conservatives such dickweeds? I mean, the comic pisses all over the UN, including countries like France, Spain, Canada, and Germany. Not to mention the fact that bin Laden thanks "President Clinton and Vice President Moore...If it were not for American leaders such as them, I would not be here today." Meaning, I guess, that Clinton and Moore are responsible for bin Laden's existence. I suppose liberals wouldn't be so hated if they didn't try to kiss everyone's asses, but neocons seem to think that liberals would greet Osama with open arms if given the chance, which is just the height of absurdity.
Even when they dropped the BS WMD line, the next thign was the whole 'We never finished what we started in the first Desert Storm... we got all the way up to taking down Saddam then backed out.. etc'
Ok, the whole 'red state', 'middle america' POV, these people feel a cultural need to finish fights and whatever. Fine, you know what? I'll even give them that, Ill even go as far to say Id agree with that! Then why is Afghanistan being ignored? Iraq is a bigger headline? give me a fucking break... Why was decade old 'unfinished business' more important than very recent unfinished business??? Are we going to have an Afghan War II in 2015? Afghanistan is going to be the same terrorist shithole it was under the Taliban , only now its going to have a puppet leader in Kabul and a country-side run by warlords. And those warlords dont really give a shit who they support, just whoever rewards them the best at the moment. (Not to mention the Taliban is alive and well over there and still very much in operation.) Who would they worry more about offending? Al-Queda friendly locals, or a country on the other side of the globe thats already overextended with Iraq? We can fly predator drones and whatnot over just about any third-world country on earth, but we've already demonstrated pretty clearly how we have trouble actually controlling the situation on the ground. Kinda complicates things when our goal.. is to control the situation on the ground - not just bomb some country back to the stone age. Shit, thats the easiest thing we could do. Military superiority isn't worth a damn unless we are really going to stomp down on a country and rule it brutally. If thats what we would have to/want to do .. again, fine.. but then how could we take a strong moral stance against dictators that were doing a fine job of it already ? Makes me wonder about the type of minds populating these neo-conservative think-tanks. Im practically a high-school dropout for christsakes.
We make the same damn mistake over and over and over again. I just want to know what is so difficult about the lesson that we don't learn it? We can think these people are stupid, we can think whatever we want... It doesnt change the reality that, 10-20-30 years down the line, the kids that grew up in these fucked up countries remember what had happened and who was, partially or even largely responsible for it.
I seriously think the only way Iraq is going to turn out well is if we do what we talk about doing... you know, actually liberating people. I would say it would be best done under the UN.. but hey, a lot of people have a problem with the UN for whatever reason, fine... we could probably do it ourselves - But it would require us dropping all motives and interests and actually putting Iraq first. And that might actually cost (tho I personally think it would pay off in the long run), instead of profit. I think that would also involve there not being any more "Iraq" at all, and rather, splitting the country into 3 autonymous ethnic regions. And if the Shiites or the Sunnis or the Kurds want to elect a mullah that doesnt give a shit about US corporate interests... hey! too fucking bad, democracy's a bitch aint it ? :)
Of course, this is all just complete fantasy. We will never do any of these things. We've already demonstrated, quite clearly, that that is not our intention over there. No amount of rhetoric or propaganda can change reality. And its reality that comes back to bite us in the ass years later in the form of Sept 11ths.
I guess it comes down to that - I don't trust my nation's leaders to make sound decisions regarding foreign policy. IMO the US should persue more isolationist or neutral stances on this type of thing. Im as left as you get and Im sure a lot fo my thoughts frequently coincide with old-school conservative policies. Just lately I've been thinking - Hey, no federal government, no foreign wars.
NYC gets attacked by an international terrorist cell partially based in Syria, and Alabama and Arkansas send thier national guard to fight in Nigeria. It'd be high comedy on the world stage. :) |
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Dr. Dos
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Posted: 7/28/2005 5:46:50 AM
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What kind of person would make Sean Hannity into a comic book superhero anyway?
Probably the same kind of person who masturbates to pictures of Ann Coulter.
Anyways, that church mouse comic is freaking creepy. There are surprisingly, some other Christian furry comics online. One of them is 'Vicki Fox', I think. That one has a links to a bunch of others.
Say what you will about her comic, but I quite like her art. |
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Zod God
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Posted: 7/28/2005 6:05:02 AM
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Wow, it seems that people cant just make fun of such a blatantly stupid comic on its own merits (or lack thereof)... we have to start seeing page long treateses on a person's political views.
Its crazyness.
The idea of making Sean Hannity a super hero is quite laughable, or making any sort of political freak one. The left will possibly try to counter this with "Super Dean" who will fly around Manhattan, protecting Tiffany Brown's party guests with his sonic "YEEARGH!" |
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Captain Cowgirl
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Posted: 7/28/2005 6:08:10 AM
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What kind of person would make Sean Hannity into a comic book superhero anyway?
Probably the same kind of person who masturbates to pictures of Ann Coulter.
Anyways, that church mouse comic is freaking creepy. There are surprisingly, some other Christian furry comics online. One of them is 'Vicki Fox', I think. That one has a links to a bunch of others.
Say what you will about her comic, but I quite like her art.
I actually like 'Vicki Fox'. The art is cute, the stories simple, and there's no OMG OMG HOT FURRY SEXXX in sight. |
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mouse
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Posted: 7/28/2005 7:05:24 AM
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Wow, it seems that people cant just make fun of such a blatantly stupid comic on its own merits (or lack thereof)... we have to start seeing page long treateses on a person's political views.
Uhhhhh... Its a political comic ( a ridiculous one at that)... I thought I was attacking on its absurdity on the political front it represents with my long treatises ?
I'll have to write a graphic novel script where a cyborg Michael Moore goes up against Mechano-Bush's Nazi-bots in the year 2099 .. in a daring rescue mission to free Noam Chomsky from some Yukon (now U.S. Territory) rape/concentration camp for left-wing political dissidents and intellectuals. |
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Monkey King
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Posted: 7/28/2005 2:05:18 PM
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I quit reading after the second page, when they got to "Ambassador Usama bin Laden." That's so far divorced from reality as to be self parody. There's no reason to take it the slightest bit seriously. Just point and laugh at the far-right self fellatio and move on. |
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RailFoxen
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Posted: 7/28/2005 3:31:31 PM
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Hilarity. To be honest it's difficult to tell whose propoganda it is - I can definitely see a smart liberal group funding this, it makes neocons look insane even to hard line conservatives. Wow. It's so ridiculous it wraps around the scale. This is Jesus-fighting-Hercules awesome.
Though, since the thread's gone off topic, I need to state that the real life people living in these mystical and foreign red states aren't the redneck gun-loving inbred sons of bitches they're made out to be. Honestly, did someone erect a huge wall around the borders when I wasn't looking? Do blue state people never cross border lines? If there's any widespread feeling about the war, it's apathy. National debt has been a fantasy for the last century, rather few families actually have relatives in the military, and there's no way in hell terrorists are going to strike out here - what can they do, blow up the Corn Palace? But I suppose when the neocons need a crazy fucker to sound gung ho for Bush, they always dig around in 'America's Heartland' for some good quotes. I swear, they pick the stupidest people and put them on TV.
On the other hand, the last time we had a liberal president, we had our motor vehicles kicked off of federal land. Ooh, and that thing about always wanting to kill two of our three largest industries... Red states aren't pro-war as much as they are anti-liberal party politics.
(Caption, page nine, lower right corner: I think they've made a mistake in the phrase. Shouldn't it have a few confused pauses?)
Faithmouse calls Umbert the Unborn back to mind. Giggles. |
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weird_guy_in_the_corner
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Posted: 7/28/2005 4:37:53 PM
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(Caption, page nine, lower right corner: I think they've made a mistake in the phrase. Shouldn't it have a few confused pauses?)
It should be, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you........................................................................................Fool me, you can't get fooled again."
And that Faithmouse thing is just nuts. The Terri Schiavo cartoons crack me up. |
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Foxid
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Posted: 7/28/2005 4:58:41 PM
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Faithmouse BAD!
FATMOUSE GOOD! |
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Paul
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Posted: 7/28/2005 11:34:24 PM
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Faithmouse is classic as far as conservative comics that make no sense go.
Funny thing, when I went to the Faithmouse site, the banner ad I got was for End the Christian Right. :lol: |
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IceCat
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Posted: 7/29/2005 7:42:27 AM
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Faithmouse is classic as far as conservative comics that make no sense go.
Funny thing, when I went to the Faithmouse site, the banner ad I got was for End the Christian Right. :lol:
Just took a look at that website, seems h'es not the only one who detests the theocratic christain right, that has tkane control of the country. It's tiem to strip all of the chistaian politcal churchs of thier tax free status, and start taxing all of them.
What's worse then a politcian, one who's a theocrat thats what! |
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The New Meat
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Wait, is this a joke? This has to be a joke.
I mean, really. Sean Hannity? Motherfucking Sean Hannity as a superhero? I'm sorry, but it really says something about a philosophy when the only heroes they can come up with are Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy. There must be a couple conservatives out there less visibly evil. |
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GoManVanGogh
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I mean, really. Sean Hannity? Motherfucking Sean Hannity as a superhero? I'm sorry, but it really says something about a philosophy when the only heroes they can come up with are Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy. There must be a couple conservatives out there less visibly evil.
Or maybe some that weren't white males?
What, were Anne Coulter and Clarence Thomas not available? |
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RailFoxen
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Wait, is this a joke? This has to be a joke.
Exactly what I'm saying... maybe Ms. Clinton put some illustrators up to the job... |
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5thehardway
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Oh, God, I can't even bring myself to read it. Sean Hannity and G. Gordon Liddy??? This isn't a comic, it's fucking FANFICTION. :S
Edit: I read today's Faithmouse comic and all I can say is: WTF? |
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IceCat
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Posted: 7/29/2005 9:04:40 PM
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I mean, really. Sean Hannity? Motherfucking Sean Hannity as a superhero? I'm sorry, but it really says something about a philosophy when the only heroes they can come up with are Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy. There must be a couple conservatives out there less visibly evil.
Or maybe some that weren't white males?
What, were Anne Coulter and Clarence Thomas not available?
According to the plot synopsis, of this P.O.S, all of the other big name conservatives were assasinated by "unnamed terrorists", though Coulter is mentioned as inspiring the name of the "Coulter Law: Banning the use of all conservative hate speach."
Stupid is'nt ti, so they managed to get three of the biggest Neo-Con media whores involved with the project, and just like all Neocons, they are engaging in a neocon circle jerk of mutual self promotion. |
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I don't know why, but I was expecting something a lot different when I saw the subject line. Something along the lines of the "X-Presidents" but favoring conservatives.
It's a shame that it's just a G.I Joe knockoff because I can totally see "CRISIS ON INFINTE CAPITOL HILLS!"
Watch as Earth #1 Bush and Earth #2 Bush band together to battle the dreaded Shrieking Zombie Deans from Outer Space!
Watch as all liberals are erased from the current time continuum!
Coming to a comic book store near you! (or not) |
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GoManVanGogh
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Watch as Earth #1 Bush and Earth #2 Bush band together....
... And STILL not have a whole brain! |
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Brentos
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My first reaction was that it was a joke too, like that Miracle Man (or whatever) comic recently featured on POE. But no, I don't see any subtle slagging of neo-cons (I call 'em nixons...) so I have to assume this is actual conservative propaganda, despite how ridiculous it is.
It's a real sore spot with me how folks like this always portray Canada as an enemy of America. These people obviously don't realize that little Canada is the third largest contributor to the war in Afghanistan. But then again it often seems that these types think that Osama Bin Laden is from Afghanistan rather than Saudi Arabia. |
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LoKi
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I think you can find wackos from either side of the political spectrum. However, it's kind of important to note in relation to American politics - the left and right are very much similiar to Europeans... we have no Communists or Fascists in office for example.
Also remember, that this is the internet and you can find all sorts of crazies out here... :O |
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Brentos
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For the most part I agree, but there are some advanced Eruopean countries that have chosen parties on one extreme or another. But there is one constant here which might not be talked about on something like FOX News... (and a reason for it...)
I've said it many times and I'll always say that America is the best thing that's ever happened to this planet. Yep to me ol' Washington is better than Jesus H Christ himself. Historically the world has pretty much agreed on that. But now on the internets we get things like 'Liberal Scum.com' or 'God Hates Sweden' or whatever and when folks read this they just end up pissed off at America. "Fuck! if this is what America says about ME then fuck America!". It might get half of the Yanks worked up into a frenzy but it just makes everyone else just say fuck it, they hate us so we hate them. The whole idea of 'cause and effect' has never really mattered to the nixons I don't think...
Meanwhile in other countries there ARE political extremes so it just drives me nuts when the nixons feed them... |
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RailFoxen
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When I first saw this site, I thought that it had to be a joke or satire site, but the more I read it and looked into it, the more unsure I was about it’s validity. I mean even G. Gordon Liddy is endorsing this comic and doing a few radio interviews about it. <...> Either it is a hilarious joke or a glimpse into the warped mind of ultra-conservatives who think they are being persecuted. Really I don't care, this comic is awesome for all the wrong reasons.
Always a good judge of character, that SA. It's the ALoD for today. |
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IceCat
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When I first saw this site, I thought that it had to be a joke or satire site, but the more I read it and looked into it, the more unsure I was about it’s validity. I mean even G. Gordon Liddy is endorsing this comic and doing a few radio interviews about it. <...> Either it is a hilarious joke or a glimpse into the warped mind of ultra-conservatives who think they are being persecuted. Really I don't care, this comic is awesome for all the wrong reasons.
Always a good judge of character, that SA. It's the ALoD for today.
It's also listed at Cruel Site of the Day.
Seems it's getting kicked around by everyone. |
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LoKi
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The worst part: I still haven't read this. :> |
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Someone on another board sent an e-mail to them essentially asking if this was a serious effort (in less than polite terms), but the response he got was rather telling too. Here's what he got back:
Thanks for the fun and amusing email, clearly you
do not fall with in my target demographic; take
heart in the fact that comic stores nationwide
are full of comics that are…shall we say…more suitable for your tastes.
Liberality For All is designed to be satirical
light hearted fun. I am sure as a thoughtful well
educated non-conservative you support my freedom of the press?
In that spirit, my comic has a “mail bag page” I
would like to consider putting your comment in
the letter section? So I can properly consider a
response in an open forum. Do I have your permission?
Let me know
What I'm reading is "Yes, it's deliberately over the top, but we actually do believe this is what would happen if the Liberals got their way." I'm still trying to figure out if he's making a jab at the intelligence of most comic book readers, or implying some sort of leftist agenda in the comics industry. |
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LoKi
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Posted: 8/5/2005 8:27:24 PM
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I thought the comic book industry is decently left wing centered now? |
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Paul
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I thought the comic book industry is decently left wing centered now?
What do you include in or exclude from "the comic book industry"? And how does publishing X-Men or Yu-Gi-Oh! imply a specific political leaning? |
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mouse
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I thought the comic book industry is decently left wing centered now?
What do you include in or exclude from "the comic book industry"? And how does publishing X-Men or Yu-Gi-Oh! imply a specific political leaning?
If anything its probably cause the right-wing really doesn't tend to favor free speech - Not when it comes to a comic book shop that sells a few adult titles etc etc.
Really, what allies would the CBLDF have in the GOP at this point? I cant think of any. These are people who cover up statues for christs sake! |
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IceCat
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Posted: 8/7/2005 1:55:12 AM
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I thought the comic book industry is decently left wing centered now?
What do you include in or exclude from "the comic book industry"? And how does publishing X-Men or Yu-Gi-Oh! imply a specific political leaning?
If anything its probably cause the right-wing really doesn't tend to favor free speech - Not when it comes to a comic book shop that sells a few adult titles etc etc.
Really, what allies would the CBLDF have in the GOP at this point? I cant think of any. These are people who cover up statues for christs sake!
Or to put it another way..
Violence is Good.
Sex is Bad.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Love is Hate.
Shit is Shinola.
And so on. |
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