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Posted: 7/29/2005 3:15:22 AM     Post subject: GOTH: a dark and poetic place  

What goes on in a goth's mind?
Why does their crap have to rhyme?
.....
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OK, I'm not even going to try and continue with the attempt at poetry. This post is about a Flash movie I found. Its all dark and evil with a little girl murdering her family because some shadow asks her too and then she turns around and asks the shadow for friends.

Could some one please explain how any one thinks they'll get friends by dressing in all black, writing crappy dark little poems, and talking about death all the time?
I've ranted about how dumb they can be where I work because we have a whole community of goth kids who hang out around there but I wonder if you all have some feed back?
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Posted: 7/29/2005 3:20:32 AM     Post subject: Re: GOTH: a dark and poetic place  

What goes on in a goth's mind?
Why does their crap have to rhyme?
.....
.....
OK, I'm not even going to try and continue with the attempt at poetry. This post is about a Flash movie I found. Its all dark and evil with a little girl murdering her family because some shadow asks her too and then she turns around and asks the shadow for friends.

Could some one please explain how any one thinks they'll get friends by dressing in all black, writing crappy dark little poems, and talking about death all the time?
I've ranted about how dumb they can be where I work because we have a whole community of goth kids who hang out around there but I wonder if you all have some feed back?

LOL GOTHS.
A friend of mine thought I was a goth when he first met me because I have dark hair.
REMEMBER KIDS, IF YOU WERE BORN WITH DARK HAIR, YOU'RE A GOTH!
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Posted: 7/29/2005 4:04:15 AM     Post subject:  

Goth... does that even exist after highschool?
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Posted: 7/29/2005 4:55:05 AM     Post subject:  

Goth... does that even exist after highschool?

Judging by some of the people I've seen at the mall...
Yes. Yes it does.
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Posted: 7/29/2005 5:33:37 AM     Post subject:  

It's just some teenager trying to be dark and artsy. There's no real depth to it.

P.S. - I'm listening to Moonspell and wearing all black. Oh noes!
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Posted: 7/29/2005 4:10:24 PM     Post subject:  

I once had the following conversation with a girl at a party:

Girl: "Why are you wearing a coat? Are you a goth or something?"
Me: "No. It's fucking cold."

Somehow, she was completely oblivious the the freezing temperature and somehow infered I was a goth merely from the trenchcoat I was wearing. I hate people who automatically think I'm a goth because I wear a large, dark coat. Freezing people can wear coats too, y'know. I was so mad that night I went home and cut my wrists with a shard from a splintered Marilyn Manson CD case.
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Posted: 7/29/2005 4:50:35 PM     Post subject:  

My Goth Poem:

I'm a vampire,
no one understands me.
My life is horrible,
I am dark and whiny.

I use no electric lights,
when candles will do.
I worship the devil,
because he knows more than you.

Life is depressing,
unrelenting, unforgiving.
I should kill myself,
but that would be too much joy for the living.

So I sit here and type,
line after line of utter tripe.
However, mom says I have to get off and clean my room.
Sigh... life is nothing but doom.
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Posted: 7/29/2005 5:44:47 PM     Post subject:  

Such a horrible paradox. The goth look is sexy, but the goth attitude makes me gnash my teeth.
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Posted: 7/29/2005 5:50:53 PM     Post subject:  

Such a horrible paradox. The goth look is sexy, but the goth attitude makes me gnash my teeth.


The goth look is only sexy if the goth in question is hot enough to pull it off. Remember that for every sexy goth-lookin' guy/gal, there are a hundred buttertrolls, PFYs*, and just generally unattractive people trying to pull off the same kind of look.

Of course, I think in general that if someone is hot/sexy, they can make just about -anything- look good.


*PFYs: Pimply-faced youths
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Posted: 7/29/2005 8:48:53 PM     Post subject:  

Well... fair enough. I figured it went without saying that I wasn't referring to the 300 pound Anne Rice devotees.
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Posted: 7/30/2005 4:36:39 AM     Post subject:  

Remember that for every sexy goth-lookin' guy/gal, there are a hundred buttertrolls

You rang?
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Posted: 7/30/2005 4:52:34 AM     Post subject:  

You rang?
Oh man.

Best parts:
drew this myself, i am an artist

im deeper then u think

dat y u type liek a 12 y/o aoler????/ -Looks like he's never heard of my friend, punctuation either.

edit:
"just hate i cant have u"

"yet u want me and i want u"




fuck u fate...fuck u.
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Posted: 7/30/2005 8:36:55 AM     Post subject:  

If anyone has a right to be gothy, it's fate. I mean, when's the last time you've EVER heard anyone say: "Gee, thank you fate!"

No love for fate, ever.
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Posted: 7/30/2005 2:11:42 PM     Post subject:  

And it's not just the Marilyn Manson fucktards, the worst lot is the "real" "true" goth folk that listen to The Sisters Of Mercy, backcomb their hair and wear ripped tights everywhere. Or the omg-so-cyber neon-coloured christmas trees who think they're above everyone else just because they have a ton of pink fake hair attached to their heads. Now, they don't write shitty poetry or whine about their mom and dad not letting them go to a Manson concert, but they have this everlasting holier-than-thou thing going on. They have strict unwritten rules of what bands you have to know and listen to, what brands of clothes to wear (and more important is where you've bought them), what books you must have read, how many piercings/tattoos/implants/whatever shit you need to have.. and the list goes on. One must have really bad self-confidence to build their life around that.

Hell, these people are almost as bad as furries. I even came up with a good comparison. Everyone knows how fucking unoriginal goths are, all copies of each other, since they buy their clothes and boots from the same shops unless they're good with DIY. Still, your random cybergoth bitch in UV-reactive neon green wear sees another cyber bitch in neon green wear, and OMG! She must be stealing her style! How dare she wear the same colour?! Like, she HAS to be the only one in the world who is original enough to wear green. Isn't that pretty obvious the damn slut is trying to copy her? That's what I thought, too. She could have chosen pink, or even blue, but she had to choose green.. That bitch.

And we have our general furtard whose avatar is a purple cat. Said furtard browses the web and spots *gasp* someone else whose avatar is a purple cat! Not possible! How could this happen? They must be copying our furtard's character! OMG ART THEFT!!11 And you figure out the rest.

Finally we have the most horrifying thing that is too pathetic for words: Gothic furries.
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Posted: 7/30/2005 2:48:00 PM     Post subject: Re: GOTH: a dark and poetic place  

What goes on in a goth's mind?
Why does their crap have to rhyme?
.....
.....
OK, I'm not even going to try and continue with the attempt at poetry. This post is about a Flash movie I found. Its all dark and evil with a little girl murdering her family because some shadow asks her too and then she turns around and asks the shadow for friends.


Looked at it, that was terrible. The thing about is for the background music they used, it's the theme music from a anime that I've rented on DVD titled Elfin Lied, it's a horror series, though I would'nt call it "Goth" by any means.
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Posted: 7/30/2005 3:19:22 PM     Post subject:  

And it's not just the Marilyn Manson fucktards, the worst lot is the "real" "true" goth folk that listen to The Sisters Of Mercy, backcomb their hair and wear ripped tights everywhere. Or the omg-so-cyber neon-coloured christmas trees who think they're above everyone else just because they have a ton of pink fake hair attached to their heads. Now, they don't write shitty poetry or whine about their mom and dad not letting them go to a Manson concert, but they have this everlasting holier-than-thou thing going on. They have strict unwritten rules of what bands you have to know and listen to, what brands of clothes to wear (and more important is where you've bought them), what books you must have read, how many piercings/tattoos/implants/whatever shit you need to have.. and the list goes on.
I guess it's all about fitting into their clique. If you sing the song, dance the dance and play the part, you're in the club. (But you'll still be called a poser.) Which destroys everyone's individuality. But that's okay if you're part of the group, right? Personally: I wear what I like. Listen to what I like. Do what I like. And say what I like. Anything that obstructs these things is a 'deal breaker'.

ALSO, while on the topic of clothing: "ARE ALL YOUR CLOTHES FROM K-MART/GOODWILL? DIDN'T YOU WEAR THAT LAST WEEK?" I got asked this alot in school. It's a fashion nazi's job to make us all feel like garbage! It's just to cover your body, anyways. Some people don't care about trivial crap like clothes. And some of us are/were DIRT fucking poor.

One must have really bad self-confidence to build their life around that.
Self confidence is like water in your hand, it can vanish in the blink of an eye. It's easier for a person to have confidence in a group, because it's something more permanent to them. So they'll do alot to fit in and keep the group together. It's a comfort thing, really.

Finally we have the most horrifying thing that is too pathetic for words: Gothic furries.
I laughed. I cried. (Can't believe Arphalia is part of this crap.)

I'm willing to bet some of them are juggalos too. That's a trifecta of sadness. i wuz listening 2 ICP the othr day n it wuz sooo deep i cried n cut myself tehn i wrote this poem
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Posted: 7/30/2005 3:51:51 PM     Post subject:  

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/

Jesus fucking Christ. Someone spoon my eyes out now!

THIS IS SO WRONG.
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Posted: 7/30/2005 8:24:54 PM     Post subject:  

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/

Jesus fucking Christ. Someone spoon my eyes out now!

THIS IS SO WRONG.


And I've seen this one at furry cons too.
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Posted: 7/31/2005 12:08:38 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/

Jesus fucking Christ. Someone spoon my eyes out now!

THIS IS SO WRONG.


And I've seen this one at furry cons too.

AHHH OH GOD D:
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:48:19 PM     Post subject:  

HAHA! They propably read David "Jack-has-no-penis" Hopkins's comics and feel the deeeepness and gothnessss.. <-with echo, beacouse echo makes everything cool.

You know what's really stupid? Making an serious animation with some anime's GODDAMN MAIN THEME playing in the background!
If he would've used the halloweens maintheme it wouldt've been so stupid, because any time people hear some main theme they start thinking of the show where it belongs.
It would be much, much more original to use something.. like.. what haven't been in some show?
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Posted: 7/31/2005 5:35:36 PM     Post subject:  

And it's not just the Marilyn Manson fucktards, the worst lot is the "real" "true" goth folk that listen to The Sisters Of Mercy, backcomb their hair and wear ripped tights everywhere. Or the omg-so-cyber neon-coloured christmas trees who think they're above everyone else just because they have a ton of pink fake hair attached to their heads. Now, they don't write shitty poetry or whine about their mom and dad not letting them go to a Manson concert, but they have this everlasting holier-than-thou thing going on. They have strict unwritten rules of what bands you have to know and listen to, what brands of clothes to wear (and more important is where you've bought them), what books you must have read, how many piercings/tattoos/implants/whatever shit you need to have.. and the list goes on. One must have really bad self-confidence to build their life around that.


This is with every subculture. Notice how the pop-punk preteens all wear Ramones shirts now? Once it catches on what bands one must be snobbish about, everyone feigns snobbishness and then goes back in their bedrooms with the doors locked and blinds drawn to listen to Simple Plan and hate themselves for it.


EDIT:

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/016.html
OMG SO SECKSI
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Posted: 7/31/2005 7:18:05 PM     Post subject:  

Of course, I think in general that if someone is hot/sexy, they can make just about -anything- look good.

But of course. That's why every fashion show, clothes catalog and commercial uses good looking models to show off the clothes.

For instance, I think this girl is pretty, so her clothes are just fine with me (well except the paw-gloves. Those are ridiculous, period). Were the same garbs worn by some hambeast, it'd be a whole different matter! :wink:
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Posted: 7/31/2005 8:28:18 PM     Post subject:  

And it's not just the Marilyn Manson fucktards, the worst lot is the "real" "true" goth folk that listen to The Sisters Of Mercy, backcomb their hair and wear ripped tights everywhere. Or the omg-so-cyber neon-coloured christmas trees who think they're above everyone else just because they have a ton of pink fake hair attached to their heads. Now, they don't write shitty poetry or whine about their mom and dad not letting them go to a Manson concert, but they have this everlasting holier-than-thou thing going on. They have strict unwritten rules of what bands you have to know and listen to, what brands of clothes to wear (and more important is where you've bought them), what books you must have read, how many piercings/tattoos/implants/whatever shit you need to have.. and the list goes on. One must have really bad self-confidence to build their life around that.


Or it could just be malignant narcissism.

This is with every subculture. Notice how the pop-punk preteens all wear Ramones shirts now? Once it catches on what bands one must be snobbish about, everyone feigns snobbishness and then goes back in their bedrooms with the doors locked and blinds drawn to listen to Simple Plan and hate themselves for it.


This brings to mind the Che Guevara fad. There's no better way to show what an OMG SOC14LI5T you are than by sucking the teat of Abercrombie and Fitch.


LOLLOLOL OMG WORKERS' UNION
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Posted: 7/31/2005 8:50:40 PM     Post subject:  

I still feel bad for how much hell i put the goths at my highschool through. But knowing how they like darkness i only threw pints of chocolate milk at them, white milk would mess up there outfits too much so I could have been meaner. But not that much meaner.

Once i was trying to milk the goth leader and i hit this shy nerdy goth chick in the boob instead. She looked like Tammy Faye Baker, crying with dark eyeshadow streaking down her face. I was a dick in highschool.....but i regret nothing.
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:42:26 PM     Post subject:  

Once i was trying to milk the goth leader


The rest of your post is irrelevent next to that phrase.

Also, given that this is a thread about goths, I'm amazed nobody has brought up "FOR THE LOVE OF DARKNESS!" yet.
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Posted: 7/31/2005 11:38:07 PM     Post subject:  

Of course, I think in general that if someone is hot/sexy, they can make just about -anything- look good.

But of course. That's why every fashion show, clothes catalog and commercial uses good looking models to show off the clothes.

For instance, I think this girl is pretty, so her clothes are just fine with me (well except the paw-gloves. Those are ridiculous, period). Were the same garbs worn by some hambeast, it'd be a whole different matter! :wink:

Yeah she's really pretty.
So is this one here: http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/014.html
Anyways, OT...I really like the first girl's skirt.
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Posted: 8/1/2005 12:57:52 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/014.html


Hrrsgsghshflrgghhhsgshaghshghfap
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Posted: 8/1/2005 2:06:11 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/014.html


Hrrsgsghshflrgghhhsgshaghshghfap



I'd beat those up till they were black and blue.
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Posted: 8/1/2005 3:20:38 AM     Post subject:  

http://www.darkfurr.org/howls/costume/014.html


Hrrsgsghshflrgghhhsgshaghshghfap



I'd beat those up till they were black and blue.



I'D HIT IT.

TWO TIMES.
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Posted: 8/1/2005 3:27:21 AM     Post subject:  

I'D HIT IT.

TWO TIMES.


Your avatar is hypnotic.

I don't find her particularly sexy. Just sorta typical-camwhorish. And a bit too flat for my tastes.
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Posted: 8/1/2005 3:44:51 AM     Post subject:  

I'D HIT IT.

TWO TIMES.


Your avatar is hypnotic.

I don't find her particularly sexy. Just sorta typical-camwhorish. And a bit too flat for my tastes.

She's really pretty compared to some of the other beasts young women on that site.
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Posted: 8/1/2005 3:45:45 AM     Post subject:  



Your avatar is hypnotic.

I don't find her particularly sexy. Just sorta typical-camwhorish. And a bit too flat for my tastes.

Dan Hibiki, the only man who can wear pink, and beat the living crap outta you at that same time!
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Posted: 8/1/2005 3:48:09 AM     Post subject:  



Your avatar is hypnotic.

I don't find her particularly sexy. Just sorta typical-camwhorish. And a bit too flat for my tastes.

Dan Hibiki, the only man who can wear pink, and beat the living crap outta you at that same time!

Other than my ex-boyfriend...
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Posted: 8/1/2005 3:55:40 AM     Post subject:  

Other than my ex-boyfriend...


BUT HE IS NOT THE MASTER MARTIAL ARTIST?!
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Posted: 8/1/2005 4:22:21 AM     Post subject:  


Dan Hibiki, the only man who can wear pink, and beat the living crap outta you at that same time!

Other than my ex-boyfriend...


Do I truly want to know...?
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Posted: 8/1/2005 4:29:40 AM     Post subject:  

Other than my ex-boyfriend...


BUT HE IS NOT THE MASTER MARTIAL ARTIST?!

HAHAHAH SHIT THAT LOOKS KINDA LIKE HIM. ONLY LESS RETARDED.
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Posted: 8/1/2005 4:42:28 AM     Post subject:  

Wow, Cap'n...you have really shitty tastes when it comes to guys if you dated someone that makes DAN look good...


BACK OFF, I SAW HER FIRST! c.c
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Posted: 8/1/2005 4:08:47 PM     Post subject:  

You dated a retarded Dan Hibiki? The mind boggles. Truly you give hope to the zeta males of the world.

I kid, I kid
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Posted: 8/1/2005 6:48:01 PM     Post subject:  

"FOR THE LOVE OF DARKNESS!"


AHHAHHAH! Oh, yeah that prick!

Is she a goth? Or wait.. don't answer..
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