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Posted: 9/24/2005 7:59:40 PM     Post subject: Camp Lazlo  

I dunno if anyone has seen this show .. at first I thought it was a bit more of a kid's show than I would prefer to watch , but I have to say, after watching a few episodes it started to grow on me.

Ever since I first seen it, there was something familiar about it... the abstract characters , it reminded me of some of the older early 90's cartoons that used to be on TV. Plus I found out it was written and designed by the guy who did Rocko's Modern Life. (I think there is at least one other Rocko's Modern Life person on the staff or cast as well, maybe more). It does show. In fact my brother had mentioned that the character Lazlo kind of reminded him of Rocko.


I like this trend towards cartoons that are more abstact and feel more like American cartoons as opposed to the Anime and anime derived crap that was clogging up the airwaves. And it still is - taking up large blocks of time on CN. (or WB for that matter, far as I've been told, is complete inundated with it.)

Camp Lazlo, and similar cartoons are simple, fun, easy to watch. The complete polar opposite of shit like Naruto, S-CRY-ed (htf is this pronouned anyway?) and all these other annoying, hard to follow, anti-cartoons. To be fair I havent watched most of them, but then I can barely tell them apart.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:19:16 PM     Post subject:  

You might also like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, if you haven't seen that yet. The art style is nifty and doesn't look at all Japamerican, and the show itself is actually pretty funny.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:31:18 PM     Post subject:  

I fucking love Camp Lazlo. I watch it all the time. I'm surprised no porn of it has been made too, which also makes me happy.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:33:30 PM     Post subject:  

I fucking love Camp Lazlo. I watch it all the time. I'm surprised no porn of it has been made too, which also makes me happy.



You forgot to say yet.

it will happen.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:36:45 PM     Post subject:  

*Crosses fingers* I hope not...they're so little and cute. I don't wanna see porn from this. Same with Mustard Pancakes. Oh please god, have mercy.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:47:15 PM     Post subject:  

I loved Rocko's Modern Life to death, yet I can't even stand this cartoon. Weird.

'Billy & Mandy,' Adult Swim cartoons, Fairly Odd Parents and Foster's are pretty much the only american cartoons I watch, at the moment.

Camp Lazlo, and similar cartoons are simple, fun, easy to watch. The complete polar opposite of shit like Naruto, S-CRY-ed (htf is this pronouned anyway?) and all these other annoying, hard to follow, anti-cartoons. To be fair I havent watched most of them, but then I can barely tell them apart.
It's strange, but cartoons with an actual story grow on you rather quickly, if you can get them in large doses. (3, 5 or 10 episodes at once.) Naruto is a pretty damn good cartoon if you can get to where you understand the story. I'd never seen something like it before. The subbing does make me flinch though. After watching anime for so long, I can get dissapointed after watching a stand alone episode of an american cartoon. I guess I'm spoiled from having actual stories.

If we break it down, most cartoons have the same general plot. Villan/problem escapes/shows up, starts destroying things, heros find out 'Let's go!', battle, cheesy ending*; rinse and repeat. The differance between american and japanese cartoons is that american cartoons repeat this process in 20 minutes or less. While anime has long 'arcs' that can last for hours.

Honestly, if they weren't showing anime, they'd be running Scooby Doo into the ground some more.

Oh, I'm guessing 'S-CRY-ed' is pronounced 'Scried'.

*Cheesy ending is optional.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:48:29 PM     Post subject:  

I HATE ANIME SO FUCKING MUCH


I had to get that off my chest.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 8:59:26 PM     Post subject:  

That show "Teen Titans" really pisses me off.

I also had to get something off my chest.



God that was a great show.

Also reminds me of the show Ren and Stimpy.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:03:37 PM     Post subject:  

You might also like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, if you haven't seen that yet. The art style is nifty and doesn't look at all Japamerican, and the show itself is actually pretty funny.


Yeah, I leave my TV on Cartoon Network basically all the time. Foster's is another good show. Actually the reason I stopped watching Cartoon Network a year or two ago was because they basically gave the entire station over to Gendy Tartakofsky (sp?) and Craig McCracken, and it got annoying. I liked all the original shows but he endless spinoffs got to me and I didnt watch for quite some time. McCracken still doing cartoons that are still good (Foster's), Im glad to see, its also pretty impressive.. I just dont want to watch 10 different spinoffs of his ideas.

Another show I like on there is 'Billy & Mandy' and 'Ed Edd n Eddy'.. which the timeline is distorted for me it seems , but I keep thinking the show has been around quite some time.

Even a cartoon like Krypto started off (IMO) weak as all hell, but has improved significantly. Its still more a kids show, but its better than the first few episodes. I think some shows need to mature, they get better as the writers and animators get into it, and the other side of that is that some shows need to end on a high note. Inuyasha is a really good example. When it first showed up on TV I really liked it, then I found out there is like 700 episodes... and the storyline dragged on way past any reasonable persons attention span. Wtf is that? Same thing with DragonballZ.. really this type of thing is at least half of the reason that I got turned off a lot anime. I mean some people like serials, and thats fine, but it should have such an indepth storyline that it appears its going to end.. only to have it drag on indefinately in a 'monster of the week' type format.


*Crosses fingers* I hope not...they're so little and cute. I don't wanna see porn from this. Same with Mustard Pancakes. Oh please god, have mercy.


I think its an impossibility that porn wont be created, but any porn of the show is more likely to come from ... a site like that WWOEC porn site. Those guys are on a mission. They are serious about the craft :) I suppose I can respect that on some level. The way furry fandom has been heading for the past couple years... furries largely are disinterested in cartoony funny-animal type characters these days. At least not enough to bother getting hot and bothered over them :) They'll save that for Father of the Pride/BrotherBear styled tripe. Which.. hey, fine by me. That and furries are in this feedback loop as they become increasingly interested in stuff ONLY related to furry fandom. Honestly Im surprised some furries even bother owning TV's, all they need is a net connection. The days of furries wanking over saturday morning cartoons like TinyToons is over far as I can tell, these days theyll pretty much only wank over each others weird, lame artwork.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:08:30 PM     Post subject:  

That show "Teen Titans" really pisses me off.


OH MY GOD yes. It might not be half bad if it wasn't for the pseudo-anime shit they throw in at every possible point. The storylines aren't that bad either; the show is just generally unwatchable due to the animation.

'course, for 'new superheroes', I kinda dig Static Shock. No fancy anime shit, just good old fashioned animated violence, and plot lines on-par with most DC-branded comic stories.

Additionally, does anyone remember the Batman animated series from back in the early to mid 90s? Used to be shown on FOX. I recall them having a very decent staff of writers working on that, and a sort of classic, square-jawed Batman look going on. It's being released on DVD now. w00t.

If you get the "Nicktoons" channel, Rocko is shown there on a somewhat regular basis. Check local listings.

Finally, in response to AlbinoHagFish's post, is it anime itself that you hate, or the almost-worse-than-furries anime fandom that insists it's the best thing since sliced bread? 'Cos, I totally hate those people.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:35:01 PM     Post subject:  

That show "Teen Titans" really pisses me off.


OH MY GOD yes. It might not be half bad if it wasn't for the pseudo-anime shit they throw in at every possible point. The storylines aren't that bad either; the show is just generally unwatchable due to the animation.

'course, for 'new superheroes', I kinda dig Static Shock. No fancy anime shit, just good old fashioned animated violence, and plot lines on-par with most DC-branded comic stories.

Additionally, does anyone remember the Batman animated series from back in the early to mid 90s? Used to be shown on FOX. I recall them having a very decent staff of writers working on that, and a sort of classic, square-jawed Batman look going on. It's being released on DVD now. w00t.

If you get the "Nicktoons" channel, Rocko is shown there on a somewhat regular basis. Check local listings.

Finally, in response to AlbinoHagFish's post, is it anime itself that you hate, or the almost-worse-than-furries anime fandom that insists it's the best thing since sliced bread? 'Cos, I totally hate those people.


And Mark Hammel as the voice of the Joker.

I never would have guessed that on my own in a million years.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:43:57 PM     Post subject:  

Additionally, does anyone remember the Batman animated series from back in the early to mid 90s? Used to be shown on FOX. I recall them having a very decent staff of writers working on that, and a sort of classic, square-jawed Batman look going on. It's being released on DVD now. w00t.
And Mark Hammel as the voice of the Joker.
I never would have guessed that on my own in a million years.

Wow, me either.

I remember watching this cartoon everytime it was on.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:49:25 PM     Post subject:  

I absolutely loved Rocko's modern life when it aired over here, but after re-watching some episodes it seems kind of stale.
Can't put my finger on it, but somehow the amusement is gone, same with Duckman or Dexters Laboratory. Even though I remember some of the jokes as absolutely hilarious (the scene where they're playing "spank the monkey", augh what a kids show) it just won't "click" after rewatching after a while.
I guess those cartoons just don't "age" that well for me or I'll have to wait a year or three before they're entertaining again (happened with Dr. Snuggles and Fraggle Rock).
I guess the same thing will happen with Spongebob, right now I think it's funny, but next year it'll prolly be "meh".

I was positively suprised when I saw the new He Man series. Compared to the crappy old He Man series I watched religiously as a kid this stuff is pretty good.
I was also suprised by Venture Brothers. I was expecting it to be funny and rude, but I wasn't expecting such a nice pacing and character development.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:51:45 PM     Post subject:  

I absolutely loved Rocko's modern life when it aired over here, but after re-watching some episodes it seems kind of stale.
Can't put my finger on it, but somehow the amusement is gone, same with Duckman or Dexters Laboratory. Even though I remember some of the jokes as absolutely hilarious (the scene where they're playing "spank the monkey", augh what a kids show) it just won't "click" after rewatching after a while.
I guess those cartoons just don't "age" that well for me or I'll have to wait a year or three before they're entertaining again (happened with Dr. Snuggles and Fraggle Rock).
I guess the same thing will happen with Spongebob, right now I think it's funny, but next year it'll prolly be "meh".

I was positively suprised when I saw the new He Man series. Compared to the crappy old He Man series I watched religiously as a kid this stuff is pretty good.
I was also suprised by Venture Brothers. I was expecting it to be funny and rude, but I wasn't expecting such a nice pacing and character development.


I think it's part of being a kid not everything that was entertaining then is going to be entertaining now.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:52:54 PM     Post subject:  

I HATE ANIME SO FUCKING MUCH


I had to get that off my chest.

iawtc.
The angst ridden OMG WE MUST GET THE MAGICAL CRYSTAL OF ZENON anime annoys the shit out of me.

Anyways, I LOVE(d) Rocko's Modern Life. That show kicks ass. I was watching the Nicktoons channel the other day and the episode where Spunky falls in love with a broom was on. I seriously cracked the hell up. I haven't seen Lazlo yet, but I might check it out.

What cartoons do I watch nowadays? I love (most) Adult Swim, as Kadius mentioned...I just can't stand the damn anime crap they show on there. Or American Dad. God, I hate that show.
These kids I babysit have gotten me into Spongebob Squarepants. I always hated it, but it's trippy and just alot of fun. The Fairly Odd Parent's isn't bad, and Foster's is a really cute show. Of course, I watch the Simpsons, too...and, as embarassed as I am to admit this, I LOVE Arthur (on PBS)...I'm addicted to that show.
The Nicktoons channel is pretty cool, by the way...except for the constant Rugrats marathons. I'm always watching that channel for Ren and Stimpy, Rocko, Hey Arnold (yes, I love that show. heh), Invader Zim, and, until recently, Doug...and does anyone remember Kablaam? That show was pretty cool too. It hasn't been on Nicktoons latley, but when it was, I'd watch it all the time.

IMO, Toon Disney and the Disney Channel pump out some seriously shitty cartoons. I absolutley despise Kim Possible, Dave the Barbarian, not to mention the Proud Family. Goodness, I HATE that show with such a bloody passion. And all the lame cartoons that have spawned over at Toon Disney...WITCH, the whole 'Jetix' block, which is WAYYYY too friggin long, ect. It used to be a good source for old Disney toons until this recent 'action-packed anime' invasion bullshit...

And Teen Titans...I've never seen it. I only really know of it from the slash fic and obligatory porn I've seen. :roll:
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Posted: 9/24/2005 9:58:34 PM     Post subject:  

I HATE ANIME SO FUCKING MUCH


I had to get that off my chest.

iawtc.
The angst ridden OMG WE MUST GET THE MAGICAL CRYSTAL OF ZENON anime annoys the shit out of me.

Anyways, I LOVE(d) Rocko's Modern Life. That show kicks ass. I was watching the Nicktoons channel the other day and the episode where Spunky falls in love with a broom was on. I seriously cracked the hell up. I haven't seen Lazlo yet, but I might check it out.

What cartoons do I watch nowadays? I love (most) Adult Swim, as Kadius mentioned...I just can't stand the damn anime crap they show on there. Or American Dad. God, I hate that show.
These kids I babysit have gotten me into Spongebob Squarepants. I always hated it, but it's trippy and just alot of fun. The Fairly Odd Parent's isn't bad, and Foster's is a really cute show. Of course, I watch the Simpsons, too...and, as embarassed as I am to admit this, I LOVE Arthur (on PBS)...I'm addicted to that show.
The Nicktoons channel is pretty cool, by the way...except for the constant Rugrats marathons. I'm always watching that channel for Ren and Stimpy, Rocko, Hey Arnold (yes, I love that show. heh), Invader Zim, and, until recently, Doug...and does anyone remember Kablaam? That show was pretty cool too. It hasn't been on Nicktoons latley, but when it was, I'd watch it all the time.

IMO, Toon Disney and the Disney Channel pump out some seriously shitty cartoons. I absolutley despise Kim Possible, Dave the Barbarian, not to mention the Proud Family. Goodness, I HATE that show with such a bloody passion. And all the lame cartoons that have spawned over at Toon Disney...WITCH, the whole 'Jetix' block, which is WAYYYY too friggin long, ect. It used to be a good source for old Disney toons until this recent 'action-packed anime' invasion bullshit...

And Teen Titans...I've never seen it. I only really know of it from the slash fic and obligatory porn I've seen. :roll:


I really do wish invader Zim was still running.

Oh and I hear Spongebob is quite funny........
On weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

sorry that was a required response.

There is good anime but most networks are showing anime for the sake of it being anime.
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Posted: 9/24/2005 10:07:03 PM     Post subject:  

Brock Samson is my IDOL.

Anyone remember that old Johny Quest show? You see alot of the old stories redone in a more cynical and realistic way in Venture Bros.

"Go ahead, take it from me..."

(Couldn't find the pic where he faces off against the UN guard)
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Posted: 9/24/2005 11:02:35 PM     Post subject:  

You might also like Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, if you haven't seen that yet.

I fucking love that show; it's my favorite.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 12:01:49 AM     Post subject:  

I have every episode of Venture Brothers recorded. :(
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Posted: 9/25/2005 12:07:27 AM     Post subject:  

Venture Brothers = best show currently on television.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 3:05:09 AM     Post subject:  

It's strange, but cartoons with an actual story grow on you rather quickly, if you can get them in large doses. (3, 5 or 10 episodes at once.) Naruto is a pretty damn good cartoon if you can get to where you understand the story. I'd never seen something like it before. The subbing does make me flinch though. After watching anime for so long, I can get dissapointed after watching a stand alone episode of an american cartoon. I guess I'm spoiled from having actual stories.


No I agree, and I really do like stories... that or just simple comedy. The problem I started having with Anime was the quality. THey were in such a rush to fill timeslots with more stuff, naturally they had to settle for wrose and worse material (IMO)

Like I've said before in other threads... If its gonna have a story it should have some conclusion. Thats how I got burned on Inuyasha. I really loved it when it came out. I liked the idea of a demon world and all this... that Naraku guy.. whoever it was.. the guy in the white gorilla mask. Really creepy villain to have in a story. It had a lot of the elements I really liked from Ninja Scroll for example (another one I got burned after the 2nd installment flushed the first one down the toilet.) The problem with inuyasha is it was going good, they were getting the jewel shards... then they defeated the enemy -- then it just reset.

Teen Titans just started this shit. I hated the anime stuff in the show, cause it was the obnoxious cliched acrtoony variety.... but it was really well written. So I liked it. At the end of the last season, they bring the world back from apocolypse... ok soooo .. what fucking story is there to tell after that ? That was season 4, they just started season 5 today.. or at least i seen the first episode of it today. They arn't gonna top what they did, so they should end it. There should not be a season 5. Some stuff can go on and on and some stuff cant. (the Simpsons.. tho even that, if heard in the past couple years there is definatly a decline... but than the Simpsons are most definatly an exception) Even outside of cartoons.. Im really happy there will be no Chappelle's Show season 3... and I liked the show... but a third season would sucked and everyone knows it. It would tarnished the first 2. There a lot to be said for quitting on high note rather than running something into the ground.


The differance between american and japanese cartoons is that american cartoons repeat this process in 20 minutes or less. While anime has long 'arcs' that can last for hours.


Well, it depends on the type of cartoon.. when I say american cartoons, Im mainly talking about stuff like Tom & Jerry, things in that vein. I don't watch it that anymore so Im suer Im missing some stuff. And there is good anime, like Samurai Champloo looks like a quality show...where as most every other one on CN looks like shit in comparision.

A good test is to leave the tv on with out watching it. A show like Zatch Bell for example (or whatever it was) was one of the most annoying things to listen to if you arn't watching. It was incredible, i had to go turn the TV off. You don't notice how awkward and annoying the dialog is in some of these shows until you arnt actually looking at it. And having done that, now its impossible for me not to notice when its there.

Also not all anime needs a really strong story line.. Paranoia Agent which I havent seen but was told is good is supposed to be all surreal isnt it? or Cowboy Bebop didn't really have a story, at least no arcs. I didn't watch all of it, but it seemed pretty good. And the best part was they ran it for 13 episodes and then killed all the characters so there is no sequals or continuations or anything like that. I think all cartoons should end that way. Not nessecarily by killing all the characters, but definitively ending the series. One of my personal fav's - The Maxx cartoon from MTVs Oddities... the best part of that was that it ended bittersweetly, and most definately. 13 episodes, in a little over 2 hours you can watch the whole thing beginning to end and thats it.


I liked that Anime series someone, maybe you refered me to it actually, Monster. And it was good, but again, i got thru 25 or 30 of them and lost interest, because a lot of the episodes were veering off into tangents rather than following the core of the story.. again 'serials' have thier place, but that type of shit gets on my nerves after a while.


Venture Brothers = best show currently on television.


Yeah, its way up there IMO, and its too bad its not on that often. I rarely get to catch it. They'll play Yu-Gi-Oh 10 times a day, but Venture brothers once a week in a 3am timeslot.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 4:28:55 AM     Post subject:  

I'm lazy and don't feel like making with the fancy quote thingies.

I definately agree with you on the Inuyasha thing, Mouse. I still like the characters and all, but every time I sit down to try watching an episode, it's either something I've seen re-run a dozen times from season 1, or something so far into the future since the last time I saw it that I have no idea what's going on. I've heard that it is ending / has ended in Japan, at least, so at some point in the future I'm hoping CN will just show it from Ep 1 to ep...200 something and get it over with.

The current (at least, as of a couple weeks ago) anime lineup on CN Saturdays is utter shit. Zatch Bell, One Piece, s-CRY-ed, and Samurai Champloo all suck horrendously. (I thought Champloo would be good, but it's like the writers watched a 20 minute reel of "The worst of Cowboy Bebop" and based a show around it). I think you're right though - their Anime/Action block was insanely popular for a while, so they started grabbing up every piece of shit anime they could find and shoved it all into what more-or-less amounts to their 'primetime' slots. And their ratings went in the shitter.

Last fall/spring, they had a decent latenight saturday lineup. Fullmetal, GITS, Bebop, and...well, I always went to bed after Bebop. But they were good, solid series. Like you said, Bebop ends after a single season. And it sure as shit doesn't end on anything resembling a happy note - but it's an ending that fits, and it's obviously the ending the writer(s) wanted. Plus it pretty much guarantees there won't be any shitty spinoffs (Dragonball GT anyone? Meh.)

For the record, Paranoia Agent is...kinda neat. It's really bizarre and a bit difficult to follow, IMO. One week the cops discover the killer thinks he's in a video game, the next week follows three completely different people who are apparently trying to kill themselves, and the next week it follows the goings-on of an animation studio. Very...scattered.

However, it looks like they've brought back Fullmetal Alchemist for its second season, and I totally dig that; I'm hoping they'll show the second season of Ghost in the Shell, or at least re-air the 1st season.

Oh, and WHAT THE FUCK is up with "Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi" anyway? What genious at CN thought that'd be a good idea? Two annoying little Japanese girls perform an annoying little Japanese song for an annoying little wanna-be-Japanese cartoon (teen titans), and they suddenly get their own cartoon series? wtf.

Finally, I challenge the title of 'best show currently on television'. It should go to Aqua Teen where it rightfully belongs. 8)
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Posted: 9/25/2005 4:37:55 AM     Post subject:  

Oh, and WHAT THE FUCK is up with "Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi" anyway? What genious at CN thought that'd be a good idea? Two annoying little Japanese girls perform an annoying little Japanese song for an annoying little wanna-be-Japanese cartoon (teen titans), and they suddenly get their own cartoon series? wtf.

PuffyAmiYumi is really big in Japan, and the whole trend right now is foreign, mainly Japanese stuff. Which is probably I just walked by a hot topic and saw a fucking shirt in the window that said 'I Love Hentai'.
Dammit.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 4:55:36 AM     Post subject:  

No I agree, and I really do like stories... that or just simple comedy. The problem I started having with Anime was the quality. THey were in such a rush to fill timeslots with more stuff, naturally they had to settle for worse and worse material (IMO)
I have to agree with you there.

Like I've said before in other threads... If its gonna have a story it should have some conclusion. Thats how I got burned on Inuyasha. I really loved it when it came out. I liked the idea of a demon world and all this... that Naraku guy.. whoever it was.. the guy in the white gorilla mask. Really creepy villain to have in a story. <...> The problem with inuyasha is it was going good, they were getting the jewel shards... then they defeated the enemy -- then it just reset.
Alot of people have complained about how it's dragged ON and ON. If I'm correct, the manga is still going after 270+ chapters. The anime finally ended about half a year ago around the 165th episode. No real ending.

Im really happy there will be no Chappelle's Show season 3... and I liked the show... but a third season would sucked and everyone knows it. It would tarnished the first 2. There a lot to be said for quitting on high note rather than running something into the ground.
There not going to continue? Or is Dave still M.I.A.?

Also not all anime needs a really strong story line.. Paranoia Agent which I havent seen but was told is good is supposed to be all surreal isnt it? or Cowboy Bebop didn't really have a story, at least no arcs.
Paranoia Agent is kinda trippy, not quite the head trip Serial Experiments Lain was, though. Cowboy Bebop's story was short and complete, imo.

I didn't watch all of it, but it seemed pretty good. And the best part was they ran it for 13 episodes and then killed all the characters so there is no sequals or continuations or anything like that. I think all cartoons should end that way. Not nessecarily by killing all the characters, but definitively ending the series. One of my personal fav's - The Maxx cartoon from MTVs Oddities... the best part of that was that it ended bittersweetly, and most definately. 13 episodes, in a little over 2 hours you can watch the whole thing beginning to end and thats it.
Yeah, it's always better when there's a resoloution. You get the feeling it's complete instead of getting pissed because you never know the ending. Also.. The Maxx, WOW that show was good. I wish I could find somewhere to download it, to watch it again. It's one of those shows that makes you say 'this is something special' isn't it?

I liked that Anime series someone, maybe you refered me to it actually, Monster. And it was good, but again, i got thru 25 or 30 of them and lost interest, because a lot of the episodes were veering off into tangents rather than following the core of the story.. again 'serials' have thier place, but that type of shit gets on my nerves after a while.
Yep, it was me. I also stopped around episode 36~38ish because of the HUGE downloads. You might want to check out the Rurouni Kenshin OVA (4 episodes), could probably get it off a p2p. Very good.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:10:21 AM     Post subject:  

However, it looks like they've brought back Fullmetal Alchemist for its second season, and I totally dig that; I'm hoping they'll show the second season of Ghost in the Shell, or at least re-air the 1st season.
I thought they'd already aired the second season, but I looked it up and it looks like I was wrong. 26 more episodes, yay. On a side note, the concept of the 'stand alone complex' is really something.

Finally, I challenge the title of 'best show currently on television'. It should go to Aqua Teen where it rightfully belongs. 8)
Gentlemen, BEHOLD! ...I can't really choose between Sealab and ATHF.

I just walked by a hot topic and saw a fucking shirt in the window that said 'I Love Hentai'.
Dammit.
HAHAHAHAHA

(P.S: Has anyone seen'Going Tribal'? I love that show.)
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:15:01 AM     Post subject:  

Ah, time to rewind a few years. My fond TV memories are mostly composed of Ren & Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life as well as Transformers, the original TMNT and whatnot. From the last couple of years, I've really enjoyed Fairly Odd Parents, Zim and various shows from Adult Swim.

Today, I watch ... nothing. Partly due to the fact that I don't have cable let alone satelite which would allow me too watch shows like Lazlo and Foster since I no longer live in the States.

As for anime, I don't like watching anime on TV*. It doesn't have the same appeal for whatever reason. But as far as anime in of itself, I don't get addicted to countries, I get addicted to shows, and if a show is good then that should be all that matters, right? My taste as far as anime goes is Hikaru no Go, Marmalade Boy, Saber Marionette J, Excel Saga and Digimon (hey, I enjoy it). There are others that I watch when the opportunity presents itself but I'm not one of those people who eat shit just because it's made in Japan like so many otakus seem to do.


* Unless of course it's anime from my youth like Voltron and the like. Shows that we watched and we didn't give a shit if it was anime or not because we didn't even know there was such thing back then. Did we even know it was from Japan?
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:44:21 AM     Post subject:  

The current (at least, as of a couple weeks ago) anime lineup on CN Saturdays is utter shit. Zatch Bell, One Piece, s-CRY-ed, and Samurai Champloo all suck horrendously. (I thought Champloo would be good, but it's like the writers watched a 20 minute reel of "The worst of Cowboy Bebop" and based a show around it). I think you're right though - their Anime/Action block was insanely popular for a while, so they started grabbing up every piece of shit anime they could find and shoved it all into what more-or-less amounts to their 'primetime' slots. And their ratings went in the shitter.


Samurai Champloo Ive really only caught it a few times and only partial episodes so I really can't make too stong a point on it. It just seemed better than a lot of the other stuff.

Also when Adult Swim shows thier ratings, its pretty obvious what people tune in for .. Family Guy and its no surprise.

Oh, and WHAT THE FUCK is up with "Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi" anyway? What genious at CN thought that'd be a good idea? Two annoying little Japanese girls perform an annoying little Japanese song for an annoying little wanna-be-Japanese cartoon (teen titans), and they suddenly get their own cartoon series? wtf.



Actually I like comparing Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi to Teen Titans... cause with Teen Titans here you have a show that really has no reason at all to have an anime-styled template laid over it, yet it does... and Puffy Ami Yumi is a cartoon based on.. uhhhh.. well I dunno, two j-pop (?) "punk" chicks I've never heard of in my life until the cartoon came out. But Puffy Ami Yumi has a (fairly heavily, considering) american style to the cartoon even tho its to some degree "from" Japan. Or based on Japanese pop culture .. or icons.. or whatever. Im not really interested in it, but I don't think its particularly a bad show.. I just cannot for the life of me figure out how the hell it came into being. Is it really just because the Teen Titans theme song??? Also IIRC Mike Kazaleh is the animation director for it. And Im guessing thats why the show looks and feels the way it does. Kazalehs stuff to me always has this late 50's early 60's American style to it, so Im sure it's show thru if hes directing a team of animators.


There not going to continue? Or is Dave still M.I.A.?


Its really up to Chappelle I suppose, but as far as I've heard the show will definately not continue, and last I heard Chappelle went off to Africa on some spiritual journey.. who knows when he'll get back. Chappelle is good with sketch comedy, but hes a good standup too.

Yeah, it's always better when there's a resoloution. You get the feeling it's complete instead of getting pissed because you never know the ending. Also.. The Maxx, WOW that show was good. I wish I could find somewhere to download it, to watch it again. It's one of those shows that makes you say 'this is something special' isn't it?


Yeah it was great. I thought it was funny, it was deep. It really left an impression on me. I was also watching it during a strange time in my life.

I dunno if I should be linking bittorrents here.... so I wont ... but over at pirate bay... use this one: "details.php?id=3357808"

The quality isnt the best, but its totally watchable and its all 13 episodes... there is also a rip of the VHS... but that was a special cut to fit the tape and its missing a bunch of scenes. I did notice what appeared to be single episodes available, those might be better. There are also the comics on there somewhere.

Yep, it was me. I also stopped around episode 36~38ish because of the HUGE downloads.


Hmm I have up to 36 so maybe I dont have much left go, Ill have to finish watching the series.

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Gentlemen, BEHOLD! ...I can't really choose between Sealab and ATHF.


Sorry but i have to majorly disagree here on the Sealab part. Its was the type of thing that was good as a concept that you do for a few shorts then drop. Not a multi season series. It was a bad rip-off of Ultra City 6060 from MTV's Cartoon Sushi (or at least that was my take on it from the start... come to think of it, early on I confused the two.) I hardly watched at all, but again, what I've heard from people who had was that after than one guy died, the show became even worse. Im pretty sure they've discontinued it.. and no disrespect, but thats really a compassionate act of euthanasia. As far as ATHF, another interesting point.. i didnt start watching it till season 3 or 4 and started really liking it... and several people I know who watched it from season 1 and 2 hated it by 3 and/or 4. To me that kinda shows that while that type of comedy or show is good... it does have a very finite shelf-life. Thats not really good or bad, but just a reality.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:45:23 AM     Post subject:  

Also.. The Maxx, WOW that show was good. I wish I could find somewhere to download it, to watch it again. It's one of those shows that makes you say 'this is something special' isn't it?


The Maxx, I have not seen that in ten years.
Upon being reminded of it, I conducted a search for it.
Just do a little torrent search on Isohunt for it.
It is a shame that this gem was never released on DVD.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:45:53 AM     Post subject:  

I HATE ANIME SO FUCKING MUCH


I had to get that off my chest.


You are my hero. I don't know why Anime is so popular, all I know is I'm tired of the art style in general.

and also,


Go ahead... TAKE IT FROM ME.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:47:59 AM     Post subject:  

You've made my FRIGGIN DAY!

That's friggin awesome... It's animated TOO!

I thank you from the depths of my heart!
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:51:37 AM     Post subject:  

Er, actually, I found it on YTMND, so I didn't make it. But thanks. Praise warms the cockles of my heart, as well as the sub-cockle and super-cockler areas.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:55:00 AM     Post subject:  

YTMND?

Is that some new dang fangled interweb porn site?
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Posted: 9/25/2005 8:15:11 AM     Post subject:  

YTMND?

Is that some new dang fangled interweb porn site?


You're The Man Now Dog
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Posted: 9/25/2005 2:58:32 PM     Post subject:  

ANIME DEBATE :shriek

I hate (nearly) every anime ever created because 1) Overall anime as a genre is simply an irritating thing to behold (rather like Trance music), 2) most anime plots have a disturbing and stupid preoccupation with gaining power to defeat a powerful enemy who holds a powerful artifact or a powerful power that he's using to take over the world to gain more power. Which is fine for a little while but gets really gay after you've seen it 928248 times.

But among the animes I do like are Case Closed and Zatch Bell because it's fucking hilarious SHUT UP >:
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:19:22 PM     Post subject:  

But among the animes I do like are Case Closed and Zatch Bell because it's fucking hilarious SHUT UP >:

You mean Detective Conan and Gash Bell?
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Posted: 9/25/2005 5:44:09 PM     Post subject:  

Yeah, probably.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:18:51 PM     Post subject:  

Eh, I like anime. I went to Otakon once and all that, though that was to hook up with friends and not to dress up like Inu Yasha. I honestly only like two or three anime shows and a few manga franchises (see: Blade of the Immortal.) Most manga infuriates me, mainly because I can get translations of any shitty ass KAWAII DESU ME RUVE RU RONG RIME manga series at Borders, but I can't find translations of Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese ANYWHERE (or for under 100 bucks..)

I tried to join the anime club at this school I went to for a bit and found that all the anime fangirls were overweight, socially awkward squealers with a burning, howling desire to fuck Ed from Full Metal Alchemist's brains out. They kept on stalking my blond Legolas like guy friend. One jumped out from behind a bush, took a photo of him, then ran away. That's when I decided I wasn't going to do this anime fan thing anymore.

I was really into the Cowboy Bebop fandom from around when I was 13 to 15. Wrote a moderately popular joke fanfic and all that. I still love the show but I haven't watched it in a long time. I personally loved how Bebop was mostly episodic but veered back, every so often, to the Big Ass Plot. It was just *nice*. The characters and their relationships with each other were great too.

I love Champloo immensely. I'm one of those people who are only moderately interested in big fat over-arcing plots - with my sporadic TV viewing, I always lose track of them anyway - so I prefer episodic shows. I also factor in prettiness, coolness, and how hot the main characters are. Champloo wins on all three counts!

Venture Brothers makes my teeth hurt, it's so good. Best cartoon on TV, totally. Though damn, how many times have I seen frickin' Pirates of the Sargasso? "Turn the handle...push the button." I also really like Camp Lazlo. Although my mom looks at me funny when I watch it. So sad.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:22:25 PM     Post subject:  

Anime sucks. Animation without acting is pointless. I've seen 3 animated features that i thought were good, all the tv stuff is crap and so are most of the features.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 7:39:29 PM     Post subject:  

Jesus, I never knew anime was so reviled on this board. For me, some it's good, a lot of it sucks.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 8:22:09 PM     Post subject:  

I wouldn't dislike it if it werent so lifeless and cheaply made. Those fucking static shots where nothings moving but the lips. the just retrace the frame 3 times and alternate htem so it doesn't look like a still image, then they might go so far as to move an arm once every 30 seconds, it's crap. Compare the quality of movement of old warner bros stuff and compare it to japanese television animation, there really is no comparison.

I watched naruto for the first time last night. I literally had to leave the room it was that bad.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 8:45:21 PM     Post subject:  

maybe it's just cuz i'm a jerk or something idk but when i watch that FLCL show i literally get so enraged that i start punching shit becuase it's THAT BAD
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Posted: 9/25/2005 8:47:30 PM     Post subject:  

Jesus, I never knew anime was so reviled on this board. For me, some it's good, a lot of it sucks.


That sounds like TV in general.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 9:50:06 PM     Post subject:  

Anime is like pretty much anything in life: a lot of it will be good, a lot will suck. A lot of people who love it are cool, a lot of them are nutjobs.

If all American-made cartoons were on par with the Venture Brothers, anime wouldn't be so in demand. People want quality, and most cartoons are lacking it. They're aimed at children, therefore without a continuous plot or characters that develop. However, Japan consistantly aims its animation at a more mature audience, and thus, you get a more refined product.

Of course, just like furry, eventually liking anime (much like liking anthropomorphic animals) became a sad excuse for a lifestyle. You can't blame anime itself or the casual fans. Some people will obsess over anything that gives them an outlet: for these people, anime and furry, alongside countless other fandoms, is this outlet.

You can be an ass and say "ANIME SUCKS" based on the batshit insane fanbase just as you can be an ass and say any fandom "sucks" because it's populated with crazies, but just as there is a great difference between tasteful, talented anthropomorphic animal art and PinkFairyLotus, there is a difference between formulaic anime crap and real works of art.

... what was the topic of this thread, again?
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Posted: 9/25/2005 10:06:01 PM     Post subject:  

I'm still impressed with Akira.

That movie came out when I was two (I think, 1987 right?) and the animation still looks great.

I really love the last 30 minutes or so of that movie.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 11:06:13 PM     Post subject:  

Animation without acting is pointless.

What? Voice acting?

I wouldn't dislike it if it werent so lifeless and cheaply made. Those fucking static shots where nothings moving but the lips. the just retrace the frame 3 times and alternate htem so it doesn't look like a still image, then they might go so far as to move an arm once every 30 seconds, it's crap. Compare the quality of movement of old warner bros stuff and compare it to japanese television animation, there really is no comparison.
There isn't a comparison because they're two completely differant things and Warner Brothers probably weren't cranking out one a week. (They actually use 8+ frames per second. Have you ever made an animated gif?)

Admittedly, most anime has to take a few shortcuts to crank out an episode a week. Drawing, scanning, coloring and putting in order thousands of frames of animation in a week. On top of recording the voices, adding the music and numerous other things. It's not an easy task. The hearts of the animaters also show through their work. Take a look 'Samurai 7' the art is some of the best.

I watched naruto for the first time last night. I literally had to leave the room it was that bad.
The dub is awful. God awful. They did an horrid job with the voices, as most dubs do. (Thanks Viz) And the first 12 or so episodes aren't all that great. Try episode 88 subbed.

Anime is like pretty much anything in life: a lot of it will be good, a lot will suck.
Exactly.

IMO, Alot of people have the 'Me too' syndrome when it comes to disliking anime. I can understand saying a show sucks after seeing it once or twice, but saying anime in general sucks is kinda like me saying all comedies that ever existed sucked. I haven't seen all of them, so I'm in no place to pass judgement on an ENTIRE genre. I'd bet good money there's a show out there that even the staunchest anime hater would enjoy.

I'm still impressed with Akira.

That movie came out when I was two (I think, 1987 right?) and the animation still looks great.
Ghost in the Shell, too.
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Posted: 9/25/2005 11:26:32 PM     Post subject:  

Animation without acting is pointless.

What? Voice acting?

I wouldn't dislike it if it werent so lifeless and cheaply made. Those fucking static shots where nothings moving but the lips. the just retrace the frame 3 times and alternate htem so it doesn't look like a still image, then they might go so far as to move an arm once every 30 seconds, it's crap. Compare the quality of movement of old warner bros stuff and compare it to japanese television animation, there really is no comparison.
There isn't a comparison because they're two completely differant things and Warner Brothers probably weren't cranking out one a week. (They actually use 8+ frames per second. Have you ever made an animated gif?)

Admittedly, most anime has to take a few shortcuts to crank out an episode a week. Drawing, scanning, coloring and putting in order thousands of frames of animation in a week. On top of recording the voices, adding the music and numerous other things. It's not an easy task. The hearts of the animaters also show through their work. Take a look 'Samurai 7' the art is some of the best.

I watched naruto for the first time last night. I literally had to leave the room it was that bad.
The dub is awful. God awful. They did an horrid job with the voices, as most dubs do. (Thanks Viz) And the first 12 or so episodes aren't all that great. Try episode 88 subbed.

Anime is like pretty much anything in life: a lot of it will be good, a lot will suck.
Exactly.

IMO, Alot of people have the 'Me too' syndrome when it comes to disliking anime. I can understand saying a show sucks after seeing it once or twice, but saying anime in general sucks is kinda like me saying all comedies that ever existed sucked. I haven't seen all of them, so I'm in no place to pass judgement on an ENTIRE genre. I'd bet good money there's a show out there that even the staunchest anime hater would enjoy.

I'm still impressed with Akira.

That movie came out when I was two (I think, 1987 right?) and the animation still looks great.
Ghost in the Shell, too.


Back in the day a Warner Brothers animation team managed about 12 cartoons a year (I think I can't remember exactly) But it was all by hand by about a half dozen guys so it was still fairly impressive.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 12:33:48 AM     Post subject:  

body language+voice acting>>>>>voice acting

what is it? Like 80-90% of communication is non verbal supposedly

I love anything by miyazaki and akira was amazing. I just believe the american approach to animation is the most effective. Plus the japanese's lack of squash and stretch really hurts the effect of they're animation, regardless of how well some of it moves.

PS, sorry bout the OT, i was just gonna put that one thing bout anime since i can't contribute due to not watching TV in almost two years.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 5:16:11 AM     Post subject:  

If all American-made cartoons were on par with the Venture Brothers, anime wouldn't be so in demand.


Thats kind of incorrect. When I say American cartoons, I guess I really don't mean specifically american, what I mean is Western. I mean take Oggy and the Cockroaches, there is a French cartoon that pulled off an American styled cartoon better than America has in a long time. And that was the late 90s.

Or even look at a lot of the animation showcases. Its too bad nicktoons took down the screenings for the 05 toonfest...

Jessica Borutski, does great work, judging by what is on her site there..>

There was 7 screenings, about 8 cartoons each, and it was international and it was all different. There was no anime stuff in there. Not that there shouldn't have been .. but uh, why arnt these guys over there not doing anything too different from each other ? I don't get it. I used to be a big anime fan when I was in high school (i was totally unaware of a larger anime community, I just rented out the entire catalog of anime from video stores and all that..) And I got burned out on it over time... because as it starting hitting the airwaves and cable.. lets face reality here - "anime", generally speaking!, is incredibly homogenous. There should be more Spirited Aways, more Akiras, etc

Good is good, and bad is bad.. A lot of it does just come down to personal taste .. but to think everyone other than Japan is producing animation so bad that that is why the market is flooded with anime is a bit foolish. No, its because its a fad and its an industry and now a lot of television stations now think thats all they can make money on.


People want quality, and most cartoons are lacking it. They're aimed at children, therefore without a continuous plot or characters that develop. However, Japan consistantly aims its animation at a more mature audience, and thus, you get a more refined product.

Of course, just like furry, eventually liking anime (much like liking anthropomorphic animals) became a sad excuse for a lifestyle. You can't blame anime itself or the casual fans. <b>Some people will obsess over anything that gives them an outlet: for these people, anime and furry, alongside countless other fandoms, is this outlet.</b>

You can be an ass and say "ANIME SUCKS" based on the batshit insane fanbase just as you can be an ass and say any fandom "sucks" because it's populated with crazies, but just as there is a great difference between tasteful, talented anthropomorphic animal art and PinkFairyLotus, there is a difference between formulaic anime crap and real works of art.


Two things here... one- anime fans, far as im concerned, are mostly seperate from this discussion ...

Anime is not inherently higher quality. The general anime style can be highly detailed... but thats also because, correct me if I am wrong here - they have massive studios full of animators churning this stuff out. ...and there is still lots of corner cutting.

All that aside, I do like some anime.. however i consider my standards so high at this point, or at least so specific that its really not even practical for me to make such a general statement like "Im an Anime fan !" or "I like anime!" No, I like good animation, and fads and marketing demographics and obsessive fanbases fuck that up constantly no matter what the subject is.


what was the topic of this thread, again?


Camp Laaaaazzzllooooooo

But I also started the topic to discuss good cartoons on TV that arn't anime.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 6:41:41 AM     Post subject:  

There was 7 screenings, about 8 cartoons each, and it was international and it was all different. <..>. but uh, why arnt these guys over there not doing anything too different from each other ? <...> lets face reality here - "anime", generally speaking!, is incredibly homogenous. There should be more Spirited Aways, more Akiras, etc

<...>No, its because its a fad and its an industry and now a lot of television stations now think thats all they can make money on.


Homogenous? Compared to animation coming from the Western world, that's almost laughable. In any showcase, you'll find a lot of quality-- but to have to realize that these aren't cartoons usually meant for the general public. You see a lot of shorts in festivals and showcases that are brilliant, new, and also entertaining, but does that stuff ever make it to the public? Not so much.

One of the few reasons I defend Eastern animation (and there aren't many) is that the big studios make money off ingenuity. They make money off being ground-breaking and giving the public something to make them think and feel. That's why you'll see titles on normal television that will blow you away. The new animation coming out to Western audiences on ordinary cable TV? Childrens shows that will amuse temporarily. No one will want to buy the complete Ed, Edd, and Eddy DVD collector set, but a good anime will make fans pay out the ass because they know they're getting quality, something they can watch over and over and always find something new. There is an "Akira" or "Spirited Away" for every formulaic lovesim story or time-old high school romance.

Western animation, to me, always equated with zany crowd-pleasing over actual plot, and diversity of animation style over character and idea. There isn't anything wrong with this, and you're right, it's mostly opinion, but anime coming to the US is not a marketing ploy. It wouldn't have come at all if audiences hadn't wanted it, and after being exposed, many audiences are turning away from Western animation in pursuit of more depth.


No, I like good animation, and fads and marketing demographics and obsessive fanbases fuck that up constantly no matter what the subject is.


The anime fandom comments weren't addressed at you really, but I'm glad you feel that way. :) I feel the same!

Though, just as you shouldn't like something because it's popular, you shouldn't hate something because it's popular. But, that's mostly my opinion, I've said enough as it is. Someone should shut me up, christ.



Edited after realizing how stupid it was to continue this here. Here's the only part revelent to this thread:

Camp Laaaaazzzllooooooo


I really want to see this now. If you war-hardened veterans think it's worthy of attention, it must have something going for it. That, or furry has finally driven you over the edge of good taste. Either or...
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:53:15 AM     Post subject:  

I'd just like to interject that if you want to watch a good anime series and, like me, you're fed up with nearly all anime after witnessing crap like Inuyasha and Dragon Ball Z (read: omfg! japaneezysuperpowars!), watch Monster. It has the best plot and story of any animated series that I've ever seen, hands down. Find the torrents for the Soldats fansubs if you're interested; I'm too lazy to find a link right now. Google for "soldats torrent" or something, shouldn't be hard to find.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 2:35:04 PM     Post subject:  

I only watch two anime shows Outlaw Star(Aisha ClanClan) and Cowboy Bebop(Faye Valentine). And I love camp Lazlo and The Venture Brothers after The Simpsons they're my two favorite shows.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 7:37:51 PM     Post subject:  



Edited after realizing how stupid it was to continue this here. Here's the only part revelent to this thread:

Camp Laaaaazzzllooooooo


I really want to see this now. If you war-hardened veterans think it's worthy of attention, it must have something going for it. That, or furry has finally driven you over the edge of good taste. Either or...


If you only like hard, serious animation, you arn't going to like it.

I like Camp Lazlo for the same reason I like Spongebob.. or any other simple cartoon.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:44:10 PM     Post subject:  

I have an LJ entry that I think is relevant to this topic.
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Posted: 9/26/2005 9:59:54 PM     Post subject:  

If you only like hard, serious animation, you arn't going to like it.

I like Camp Lazlo for the same reason I like Spongebob.. or any other simple cartoon.


Ah well, it's worth a shot, anyway. I could probably use something that reminds me of my childhood. :)


I have an LJ entry that I think is relevant to this topic.


This reminds me of something.

I remember a friend of mine studied in Japan for a while, and at a graduation get together with the other American students, all but two of them showed up in some sort of kimono or gothic lolita ensemble, complete with whatever silly merchanidse they picked up. My friend's host mother took a look at them, and asked, "Why are they all dressed in costumes?" jokingly adding, "Maybe we should go home and get you a Darth Vader mask so you will fit in."
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Posted: 9/27/2005 1:23:21 AM     Post subject:  

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This gives me hope.
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Posted: 9/27/2005 2:36:38 AM     Post subject:  

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Ah, for a while I had been wondering about this sort of thing. I actually had a suspicion that was the case. Going way back to 97 or 98 , I went in some japanese chat room somewhere to try to ask someone who lived there a question about the Samurai Pizza Cats and was told by someone, in very broken english, that it was for very young children and only huge geeks watched it... or something to that effect. It was very hard to understand the guy but I got enough of the idea.

Judging by what is kids entertainment over there, now I understand even more... SPC in japan is probably a toddlers show.


Which that doesnt really matter anyway, the show was only good cause it was dubbed in english with the intent to be funny. It would seem there was no translation involved at all and rather they just wrote new scripts to go along with what what was happening on the screen.
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Posted: 9/27/2005 3:46:29 AM     Post subject:  

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I thought that wasthe case over in Japan.
I stumbled across a crappy website with the right concepts about anime in general, http://www.angelfire.com/geek/tetrisnomiko/misconceptions.html
also The creator of Fushigi Yuugi takes a trip to Anime Expo '98
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