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Skunkfuckers Inc. · Needs to get out more Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 1006

posted on 2005-01-13 16:30:05
source: Manga News Service

Non-Profit Organization Insists on Regulation of Depiction of Minors in Adult EntertainmentThere has been significant public outcry in Japan following the kidnapping and murder of an elementary school girl in Nara, Japan and the arrest of a suspected lolicon for the crimes.

CASPAR, a Japanese non-profit-organization founded in 1989, is campaigning for regulation regarding the depiction of of minors in pornographic magazines and adult video games. Caspar states that it has been collecting sample material for several years.

Caspar founder Kondo Mitsue states, "For 5 or 6 years we have been collecting material, and the so called bishoujo adult anime magazines and bishoujo adult anime simulation games are terrible. Grown men manipulate childlike little girls, themes of turning them into slaves to have one's own sexual desires fulfilled being very common. "

According to Kondo the characters of these games and magazines are often clearly meant to be elementary aged school-children.

Producers of the lolicon and bishoujo material often argue that the Japanese constitution guarantees their freedom of expression in this matter and that laws restricting these materials would be unconstitutional. Kondo however counters this stating that "The utmost priority of the constitution is to guarantee fundamental human rights. I believe the freedom of expression does not allow for the depiction of little girls being violently raped, depriving them of their basic human rights."

She states that there is no country in the world that pays as little attention to Child Pornography as Japan.

CASPAR has collected 7,000 signatures on a petition to have the Japanese legal code revised in respect to virtual child pornography. In addition, 16 member of the Diet and several members of congress have pledged to support such measures.

Kondo founded CASPAR in 1989 after learning of the child prostitution issues in Thailand. The organization has built around 20 schools for children in Thailand and the Philippines. It was officially recognized as a legal non-profit-organization in 2003 and has 770 members nationwide. CASPAR believes that child prostitution and child pornography have common roots and that by regulating child pornography, the fight against child prostitution will be aided.

In 2002 the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a 6-year-old law banning virtual child pornography. The subsequent "Child Obscenity and Pornography Prevention Act of 2002 banned only virtual images that are indistinguishable from real child porn, and prohibits all obscene pornographic images of prepubescent children.

Discuss.

Bloodied · Rasophore Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 53

Makes sense to me. Go Japanese government! Send Godzilla to enforce your law!

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

I don't condone child pornography of any kind, but they seem to think all adult mangas and games have depictions of rape and abuse in them. That's true, some do, but many don't.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

I doubt that this will be enforcable, unfortunatley. Whose to say which anime girl looks 14 and which looks 17? They all look the same.

21st Century Digital Boy · Venter Joined: 27 Dec 2003 Posts: 202

I've always found it rather funny that uncensored genitals have been absolutely forbidden from japporn, and yet sexualizing infants haven't. Talk about some fucked up priorities.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

It's kind of funny how the Japanese consume far more depraved pornography than us and yet there is very little rape there. Kind of makes you think.

Computolio · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 865

See, the whole fucking problem with Japan is that the censorship of genitals in porn pretty much created a generation or three of people forced to go to insane lengths to beat off, and lolicon is only a tiny part of the long-term results. If this group had any fucking idea what it was talking about it'd go after that stupid censorship law first.

Anencephalic Baby Jesus · Rasophore Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 69

I don't know. What's more depraved, beating off to line drawings of schoolgirls getting rodgered by tentacle monsters or beating off to photos of real women who've been starved, drugged, dyed, painted, surgically mutilated and finally airbrushed to achieve a certain 'look'?

*shrugs*

I agree, the Japanese censorship law is stupid.

weird_guy_in_the_corner · Vociferator Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 708

See, the whole fucking problem with Japan is that the censorship of genitals in porn pretty much created a generation or three of people forced to go to insane lengths to beat off, and lolicon is only a tiny part of the long-term results. If this group had any fucking idea what it was talking about it'd go after that stupid censorship law first.

AMEN

Stoneth · Needs to get out more Joined: 01 Dec 2004 Posts: 1225

I agree that the censoring of genitals in Japanese porn is rather stupid when you consider the fact that as a whole Japanese porn is more violent and otherwise questionable than American porn.

Not to say that pornographic drawings depicting underage characters is an issue exclusive to Japan. You can find that all over as "cub art" and Kthanid does it all the time (both human and non-human). I'm not going to defend underage porn. But still, a drawing of girl is not the same as a girl, right?

M0us3_Zero · Vociferator Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 437

Depends on the purpose it was drawn.

As a normal character in a normal story... go for it.
As an object of depraved sexual predation... HELL NO.

GG Japan. Hunt the Pedophiles down, disembowel them, hang them by their entrails on the highest gallows, and let the rest of the country know you mean business.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

I think a lot of it is the backlash of a largely still repressed society. With such strict adherance to social norms and outward appearances, there's gotta be a pressure valve somewhere. Unfortunately, sexuality behind closed doors seems to be one of those valves.

In some ways, it's kind of paradoxical. It's not uncommon to walk into some CEO's office and see girly magazines on the tables. They have squishy balls that look like boobs sold as toys. And, yet, they can be very reserved with outward expressions of love and affection. It's almost like actual expressions of sexuality and affection are taboo in public.. but behind closed doors you can be into some of the weirdest shit around.

This creates something of a conundrum. Not to pull a Wayd here, but my wife is one of those few women that admits she likes porn. Not XXX porn, but the kind of softcore Showtime/Cinemax stuff that implies more than it really shows. Since she was curious about it.. I picked up what I assumed would be one of the most softcore hentai titles available at FYE. (Her reasoning being at least the guys in it aren't some schmuck in a mullet making stupid faces.) It looked innocent enough.. but, goddammit... you've got a guy penetrating a girl for the first time.. complete with blood on his dick.. and later peeing on a girl.

Fuckin' nips... can't you go through one DVD without some kinda weird shit?

I think it's also a matter of how Japanese society still views women as much lower in status.

It's a pickle in trying to decide which language to pursue some fluency in.. Chinese or Japanese. I get to choose between being able to talk with Communists, or socially rigid, impotent perverts. Choices, choices.

AngryPuritan · Needs to get out more Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 1361

With Chinese you have to learn two spoken languages, but at least when they put a cattle prod on someones genitals, there is a political purpose.

Commies don't need kinks.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

Mandarin is spoken by about 70% of the population now. It's become the standard for Chinese in their movement to become more literate. Cantonese is largely spoken in Hong Kong. I started with that.. mostly because the Pimsleur CDs were $20 instead of $50 for the Mandarin set. I have the Japanese set as well.

I'm mostly thinking of developing a basic conversational level with each one.. you know, "How much is this?" "Where is this?" "Your sister is hot, can I fuck her?*" The basic stuff to get around. Then, if one or the other proves to be useful in work, I can always pursue it further.

*My Cantonese phrase book includes a section on picking people up, including stuff like "Only if we use a condom." No lie!

Dogthing · Vociferator Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 700

Mandarin is spoken by about 70% of the population now. It's become the standard for Chinese in their movement to become more literate. Cantonese is largely spoken in Hong Kong. I started with that.. mostly because the Pimsleur CDs were $20 instead of $50 for the Mandarin set. I have the Japanese set as well.

I'm mostly thinking of developing a basic conversational level with each one.. you know, "How much is this?" "Where is this?" "Your sister is hot, can I fuck her?*" The basic stuff to get around. Then, if one or the other proves to be useful in work, I can always pursue it further.

*My Cantonese phrase book includes a section on picking people up, including stuff like "Only if we use a condom." No lie!

I like China. Send me this book.

ZenZhu · TOP POSTER! Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 1510

The food's another issue... I think I can learn to appreciate sea urchin in seaweed easier than fried chicken in pig's blood sauce with a side of MSG. :P

I ate at a Chinese restaurant in Springfield, MO the other day. I had passed it many times in my travels and always been curious about it. So, I went in and got the early-bird special, which included hot and sour soup, eggroll, crab rangoon, entree, and rice. I went with cashew chicken. I figure that was straightforward enough to be a good measure of the restaurant.. you know, cashews, carrots, celery, and chicken.

When they brought it out, it was fried chicken in this dark brown gravy that tasted vaguely of cashews stewed in soy sauce with corn syrup. The only thing resembling a vegetable was a smattering of green onions on top.

THEY LOSE!