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Posted: 4/2/2005 2:07:23 PM     Post subject: Gonterman vs Zelda, Onimusha  

Zelda

"Omnimucha III"

As you could see, I had an influence from Nintendo's Legend of Zelda. I'd figure he'd incorporate parts of Link into his own style.


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Posted: 4/2/2005 4:58:15 PM     Post subject: Re: Gonterman vs Zelda, Onimusha  

Zelda

"Omnimucha III"


God, don't let the triforce fall into this man's hands. And further, he needs to keep his grubby hands OFF of Onimusha 3. That's sacrilidge.
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Posted: 4/2/2005 6:12:39 PM     Post subject:  

Legend of Mullets
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Posted: 4/2/2005 10:17:38 PM     Post subject: Re: Gonterman vs Zelda, Onimusha  

Zelda

Peter Pan J. M. Barrie

There is a reason why I listed Barrie and NOT Disney: I wanted to depict what Peter Pan would look and act like in the present day, not in the turn of the century or in WWII time like in the two Disney movies.

That's a pretty odd claim, seeing as Gonterman's Peter Pan design there borrows more than heavily from Disney's version. Is Gonterman just totally shameless or does he suffer from KAK-like lack of sense of reality?
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Posted: 4/2/2005 10:20:44 PM     Post subject: Re: Gonterman vs Zelda, Onimusha  

That's a pretty odd claim, seeing as Gonterman's Peter Pan design there borrows more than heavily from Disney's version. Is Gonterman just totally shameless or does he suffer from KAK-like lack of sense of reality?


Aw...... look at those kids, run off to Never-Never Land where there's no grownups, you can dress in fursuits and never have grow up...
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Posted: 4/2/2005 10:21:24 PM     Post subject:  

It's cute how he uses the word "depict" like a real, grown up artist!
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Posted: 4/3/2005 12:31:56 AM     Post subject: Re: Gonterman vs Zelda, Onimusha  

That's a pretty odd claim, seeing as Gonterman's Peter Pan design there borrows more than heavily from Disney's version. Is Gonterman just totally shameless or does he suffer from KAK-like lack of sense of reality?

Aw...... look at those kids, run off to Never-Never Land where there's no grownups, you can dress in fursuits and never have grow up...

Furries in training. *is reminded of his last Mark Merlino jab*
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Posted: 4/3/2005 12:46:01 AM     Post subject:  

Stoneth, what the hell is your avatar, who had drawn it and why?
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Posted: 4/3/2005 12:51:07 AM     Post subject:  

Stoneth, what the hell is your avatar, who had drawn it and why?

It's of me as drawn by David Gonterman himself.
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Posted: 4/3/2005 12:53:06 AM     Post subject:  

Choose the right card, win a stick. Help me get these little LCD screens off my arm!
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Posted: 4/3/2005 12:54:07 AM     Post subject:  

Stoneth, what the hell is your avatar, who had drawn it and why?

Ohgod.
I hope that's not a commision, because I may very well know that person...
White fox, likes Yugioh, but she doesen't have blue hair...

EDIT: Well I guess that last bit is kinda ruled out... Seeing as it's Stoneth's commision... Or am I falling into a Sarchasm?

Speaking of which, that's a YGH duelist's thingy..
No idea what the NAME of it is..
You just slide cards in, and they like..

Do something, like project a hologram?
I dunno, I only ever watched the show once, and that was because I had no idea what it WAS.
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Posted: 4/3/2005 1:00:43 AM     Post subject:  

Stoneth, what the hell is your avatar, who had drawn it and why?

It's of me as drawn by David Gonterman himself.


I thought so, but did you pay him A REAL MONEY?
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Posted: 4/3/2005 1:02:30 AM     Post subject:  

Stoneth, what the hell is your avatar, who had drawn it and why?

Ohgod.
I hope that's not a commision, because I may very well know that person...
White fox, likes Yugioh, but she doesen't have blue hair...

EDIT: Well I guess that last bit is kinda ruled out... Seeing as it's Stoneth's commision... Or am I falling into a Sarchasm?

Speaking of which, that's a YGH duelist's thingy..
No idea what the NAME of it is..
You just slide cards in, and they like..

Do something, like project a hologram?
I dunno, I only ever watched the show once, and that was because I had no idea what it WAS.

It wasn't a commission, actually. It's part of an art trade.

Yeah, basically you place cards and they create holograms. I think DaveyKins mostly drew inspiration from this pic. Only difference is I'm a collector of mainly Digimon cards, not YuGiOh cards.
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Posted: 4/3/2005 1:06:28 AM     Post subject:  

I want to see the pic you did for G-man.
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Posted: 4/3/2005 3:12:04 AM     Post subject:  


It wasn't a commission, actually. It's part of an art trade.


Suppose that's better than a sex trade, considering the person.

Eh?
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Posted: 4/3/2005 9:38:32 PM     Post subject: Re: Gonterman vs Zelda, Onimusha  

That's a pretty odd claim, seeing as Gonterman's Peter Pan design there borrows more than heavily from Disney's version. Is Gonterman just totally shameless or does he suffer from KAK-like lack of sense of reality?


Aw...... look at those kids, run off to Never-Never Land where there's no grownups, you can dress in fursuits and never have grow up...


From the Gonterman's "Lost Boy Found" page:

The self-insertion (S-I) technique, where you make yourself into a character in a story, known as a 'Mary Sue,' or 'Author Avatar,' is a popular way for a novice writer to find something to write about, and was a common way to get started on writing for many a writer. Unforutnately it is very denegrated on in some areas online, and in some places, downright vilified with a venom that borderlines on Fatwah levels.


Of course, Gonterman, being an Islamophobe AND a fucking idiot, doesn't even know what the Fatwa word means.<1> Anyway,

I should know; my first story published on the Internet was a Sonic-themed Self-Insertion called "Blood and Metal," and that story and it's ilk are the reason why some people mention my name with a thumbed-up nose.
(...)
Sooooo, I pluck a younger version of me during a pivital moment of my life and took him to a place where he would grow up to be diffrent than me. That kid became Adam Packbell, the owner of the Coffee Shop 'BakaBreakers,' but before then, he had a pretty much eventfull life, and a better one which I wanted him to have.




<1>
Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani gave a fatwa Friday saying that cooperation with the forces charged with safeguarding security in Iraq is "obligatory" on all Iraqis, "as long as the principles of Islamic law are observed. (...) At the same time, 64 Sunni clerics gave a fatwa that for Iraqis to join the military and police is permitted. Indeed, they called for Iraqis to join these forces, saying that they are national in character and not a militia pertaining to a particular sect."
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Posted: 4/3/2005 11:44:31 PM     Post subject:  

I still say he should stop drawing.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 12:06:35 AM     Post subject:  

I still say he should stop drawing.


I think he should stop breathing. Or at least have a feeding tube removed.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 1:00:14 AM     Post subject:  

BLAH BLAH BLAH, BLIBBITY BLAH BLIP BLIP BOOOEEEEEEEEEP BORP BORP BORP BORP BWOOOIIIIPPPP SSSKKKSSHSHHHHHHHHHH BEEP BEEP BEEEYOOWWWW


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Posted: 4/4/2005 1:48:42 AM     Post subject:  

Poor ole' Davey can't do nothing right. Also why do I think Gonterman is a future serial killer?
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Posted: 4/4/2005 3:59:47 AM     Post subject:  

I still say he should stop drawing.

I think he should stop breathing. Or at least have a feeding tube removed.

Don't say things like that. Who will amuse me with his constant trying and signature infantile art style?
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Posted: 4/4/2005 5:12:37 AM     Post subject:  

Poor ole' Davey can't do nothing right. Also why do I think Gonterman is a future serial killer?


Well if he can use a knife as well as he does a pen... maybe he might turn out to be a serial papercutter...
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Posted: 4/4/2005 5:44:27 AM     Post subject:  

Poor ole' Davey can't do nothing right. Also why do I think Gonterman is a future serial killer?


Well if he can use a knife as well as he does a pen... maybe he might turn out to be a serial papercutter...


Hey, don't forget he's the "Internet's most dangerous cartoonist"... I think it's an obligation.

And when it comes to a killin', I think Gonterman's chosen victims shall be not only an usual whores, but also a kidnapped homosexuals forced to wear a Sailor Fuku costume:

that only way you'll see Sailor Moon on my site is tourtured, raped, and murdered


This, and a Muslims (I guess this "fragging the God" thing is beyond his capabilities, however):

What the FUCK did they do to Allah to get THAT kind of treatment? What the FUCK did those who were in the World Trade Center three years ago went and done to deserve what they got?! That's what I want to ask Allah, and He better not give me a dumb look as an answer if he wants to keep in one piece! I said that people who do these things and those who cheer over them do not deserve to draw breath, and the last thing He needs is some American giving him new definitions to 'Great Satan'.

This rage I feel and apparently show wouldn't be so profound if it weren't for the images I get from the media, those who report these attacks.

(...)

The evil part of me actually enjoys that, and as an American I am VERY comfortable in being Evil.




Oh. Tremble in front of a Gonterman's EVIL LAZY EYE!

And just btw, looks like Iraqis got some of a best TV shows ever:

It follows the success of the Interior Ministry's latest propaganda project - a television show called Terror in the Grip of Justice, which purports to show the confessions of insurgents captured by the ministry's anti-terrorist commando unit. The programmes show alleged insurgents, many sporting severe bruises, confessing not only to attacks but also to such un-Islamic activities as drinking and homosexuality.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 3:49:25 PM     Post subject:  

Remember, a commission to Gonterman is a comission to SATAN

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Posted: 4/4/2005 4:08:34 PM     Post subject:  

Man that's a weird picture.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 4:22:19 PM     Post subject:  

Favourite genre of music: Heavy Metal


I think when his "Evil" part is taking over, not only Gonterman's eyes would be glowing red, as decipted by MonicaKitty, but he should be also wearing an old-school, '80s Heavy Metal Moustache.

And a mullet.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 10:49:29 PM     Post subject:  

Gonterman is fascinating. He's a human car accident, I simply can't look away. After getting home from work today, I decided to look into his life and times a bit more. First of all, I found his yahoo profile.

http://profiles.yahoo.com/daveykins_62040

The man has the anti-midas touch. Everything he comes in contact with turns to utter shit- and spectacularly so. Lookit, his profile picture is (I guess) some kind of reference to people who pick on him (IE criticize his work, vile racism, tenuous grasp on the English language, etc) Baka, in Japanese, means something like "Idiot". At least, that's what I gathered from numerous subtitled anime. The character is the typical Gonter-clone. He would likely argue that this guy is WAY different because he's wearing a brown vest and old-person giant blu-blocker sunglasses. Or Michelangelo's Ninja Turtle mask, I'm not sure. Given, I can't validate this since all the characters he draws look identical. Men women, children, fox suit women, they all look like Gonterman's idealized self image.

So, in this picture, he's evidently a tough, no-nonsense...uh...Shop N' Save clerk...or something...looking to lay the smack down on all the idiots who don't understand how fucking cool he is. On one level, you have to look at him, smile, and shake your head and say "God, what a dork!" But he's actually a little scary. Here we have a man who at 32 years old wants to be called "Davey-kins". This is the sorta behavior you would assume comes with an adult diaper and safety helmet. And yet, there's so much coiled anger and violence in Gonterman. People who he decides are enemies get written up in his works, usually in some form of violent fantasy involving "Pulse Forse Guns" or "Bang Sticks" or God knows what other misspelled implements of distruction. Again, this stuff is his fantasy material, and while we all threaten violence at one time or another- I do it frequently in the drawings I post around here, but there's a difference between parody and...something else.. Daveykins assigns an absolute seriousness to his petty revenges. In his own warped reality, he GOT whoever it is back, and they KNOW not to mess with...ahem...Daveykins again.

I also perused his multiple blogs/diaries. They're entertaining largely due to his rants. Something is ALWAYS pissing this guy off, and in standard Gonterman fashion he seems to feel a tremendous sense of accomplishment through bitching. And of course, there's the irony, and to illustrate that I found this strange little rant about Disney and Michael Eisner. Childish anger! Misspellings! It's classic stuff! For the full text, check it out here-


http://foxfirestudios.us/blog/archive/2004_06_02_archive.html

It's the first topic that gets me here, and it involves the latest little gem Michael Eisner wants to bleed dry, because he wants a Corporate-sponsored Harry Potter series: W.I.T.C.H. This series comes from Italy (It seems that Mikey Boy has outsourced creativity as well) and sets around a series of five girls who became a cross between the Power Rangers and the Sailor Senshi, with a little bit of mysticism involved, to defend earth against a series of extrademensional baddies because of regularly occurring rips reality.

Sounds like something I would make. Heck, it sounds like 'Planeswalker' only without the Card Game refrence. That was my beef against it even though I will buy the series, mainly because they have comic pages which style I want to incorporate into my own style.


So... let me get this straight. He (Gonterman) who hasn't had an original idea in his life, and has liberally ripped off most things Disney, has a "beef" that Disney (So he hints) has come dangerously close to ripping off his work. BUT, he's going to buy it anyway so he can rip it off. WTF kind of reasoning is that? I can't even fit that into a metaphore, because it defies all logic. Gonterman, if nothing else, is a totally new frontier of fucked-upness thus far uncharted.

Sigh...and that's about all I can take for now. I'm beginning see everyone wearing mullets and sailor suits...time to unplug.
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Posted: 4/4/2005 11:00:03 PM     Post subject:  

2 things:

Location: Pontoon Beach, IL


He lives disgustingly close to me.

Also, why is there a place in Illinois called Pontoon Beach when this state borders on no ocean, or even a very big lake? (I know, Chicago in Lake Michigan, but Chicago might as well be another state in and of itself.)
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Posted: 4/4/2005 11:13:06 PM     Post subject:  

I've been to Pontoon Beach, or rather, to the large man-made Horseshoe Lake. The "beach" is really just pebbly silt rather than sand. Besides, I always thought as a rule beach = ocean.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:33:02 AM     Post subject:  

Why do I think Gonterman sees himself like this.


http://www.cinefile.biz/cell1.jpg



Sorry I don't know how to post images.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 7:10:27 AM     Post subject:  

Occupation: Cartoonist


It's not your occupation, David, you're not making any money from this.

To make a proper occupation, you should be wearing an odd headgear, and actually being able to intimade these damn Muslims.


Speaking of which, the kids out there have so much fun it makes me jealous.

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Posted: 4/5/2005 8:14:40 AM     Post subject:  

What the hell is with all the Gonterman hate? Folks, this man is PURE UNLEADED AWESOME and the contents of his brain a surreal funhouse unlike any other on the internet. No person has been or ever will be quite as kickassly crazy as Gonty here, and I for one hope he never stops.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 8:22:41 AM     Post subject:  

What the hell is with all the Gonterman hate? Folks, this man is PURE UNLEADED AWESOME and the contents of his brain a surreal funhouse unlike any other on the internet. No person has been or ever will be quite as kickassly crazy as Gonty here, and I for one hope he never stops.


Compy speaks the truth!!!
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Posted: 4/5/2005 8:45:27 AM     Post subject:  

What the hell is with all the Gonterman hate? Folks, this man is PURE UNLEADED AWESOME and the contents of his brain a surreal funhouse unlike any other on the internet. No person has been or ever will be quite as kickassly crazy as Gonty here, and I for one hope he never stops.


Compy speaks the truth!!!


I don't know, guys... there's a lot of competition, you know?



Ethnicity: White Christine American/Republican


(Or maybe you're counting a humanoid and/or semi-sentient creatures only.)
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Posted: 4/5/2005 8:52:48 AM     Post subject:  

Ethnicity: White Christine American/Republican


She's part evil car? I knew it!
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Posted: 4/5/2005 1:55:04 PM     Post subject:  




Ethnicity: White Christine American/Republican




Wow...um. I heard once that there's a thin line between an erotic gaze accross a crowded room, and the piercing stare of psychopath. No question which one she has down to a science.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 4:24:24 PM     Post subject:  


Interesting. I didn't know KAK modeled for paperback covers.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 4:30:51 PM     Post subject:  

We need to hook Gonterman and KAK up. After all that's one of the ways to start the end of the world so let's get cracking.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 4:59:26 PM     Post subject:  

Problem is, Gonterman is already engaged to a... living, I guess... thing... of sort. You know, the one with a scary legs (everything scary, actually).

And KAK, with all these pilots, SEALs, and other USN servicemen she's dating all the time...
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:05:43 PM     Post subject:  

Gonterman is engaged? Holy crap, I hope someone has a photo of the lucky, gal, I'd love to see what kind of prize Gonterman would take home to Mom! =D
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:07:57 PM     Post subject:  

Gonterman is engaged? Holy crap, I hope someone has a photo of the lucky, gal, I'd love to see what kind of prize Gonterman would take home to Mom! =D




As seen right there.
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Posted: 4/5/2005 5:13:11 PM     Post subject:  

Holy Chronic Granulomatous Disease! Well, I would expect nothing less from Daveykins! Rock on, you stud!
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Posted: 4/6/2005 3:29:34 AM     Post subject:  

I had forgotten about that picture Gargoyle and if I ever make it to Poland I'm gonna come looking for you!
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Posted: 4/6/2005 9:34:41 AM     Post subject:  

Hey, what about if we all send G-man a postcard signed "your greatest fan" - from all over the world?

My postcard would be something like this:
http://raster.art.pl/prezentacje/pocztowki/pocztowki.htm
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Posted: 4/7/2005 3:16:56 AM     Post subject:  

Conter-chan, Gonter-chan!
Freaky, neighborhood Gonter-chan
Draws a pic, any size,
Always makes dem square-shaped eyes
Look Out!
Here comes the Gonter-chan!

Is he sane?
Listen froot,
He's got living vixen-suit.
Dreams of sex with other men
Bashes gays now and then
Hey, there
There goes the Gonter-chan.

Gonter-chan, Gonter-chan
Scary, homophobe Gonter-chan
Wealth and fame
He's not scored
Ridicule's his reward

Look out!
Here comes the Gonter-chan...

Aaand so on and on.....

http://www.deviantart.com/view/16696635/
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Posted: 4/7/2005 9:26:20 AM     Post subject:  

You have to respect a man who's...er...man enough to enter the Disney Princess Picture contest.

Oh wait, no you don't. My bad.
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Posted: 4/7/2005 4:21:06 PM     Post subject:  

Gonter-Man, Gonter-Man,
Does whatever a Gonter can!
Mullet 'do on his head!
Feet just like loaves of bread!
Hey there, here comes the Gonter-Man!


Taken from Gonterforce on The Sisto Files.
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Posted: 4/8/2005 6:05:45 AM     Post subject:  

Gonter-Man, Gonter-Man,
Does whatever a Gonter can!
Mullet 'do on his head!
Feet just like loaves of bread!
Hey there, here comes the Gonter-Man!


Taken from Gonterforce on The Sisto Files.


Oh boy. Gargoyle bondage. And we're still on the frst page.


Well I'd never!
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